Current Events > Morgan Freeman says race doesnt play a part in wealth distribution.

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Gojak_v3 posted...

StealthRock posted...

Gojak_v3 posted...

StealthRock posted...

He's wrong. Just because a famous black man says something doesn't make it true

Him and Don Lemon aren't wealthy

Ownership is wealth, not just being a famous TV star


Black folks have always had access to money. One of the first black millionaires was Madam C.J. Walker, who was born around the Civil War time

Actor Morgan Freeman is worth $90 million.

lul

wow. 90 Mill.

Can you point me to something he controls?? A Big corporation?? Laws he creates? Laws he's influenced with his money?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Freeman

Freeman lives in Charleston, Mississippi, and New York City. He owns and operates Ground Zero, a blues club in Clarksdale, Mississippi. He formerly co-owned Madidi, a fine dining restaurant, also in Clarksdale.[38]

Flying
At age 65, Freeman earned a private pilot's license.[39] He owns or has owned at least three private aircraft, including a Cessna Citation 501 jet and a Cessna 414 twin-engine prop. In 2007 he purchased an Emivest SJ30[40] long-range private jet and took delivery in December 2009.[41] He is certified to fly all of them.[42]

oh wow! he owns a whopping blues club and some private Jets. Guess he's running things huh??

What are you talking about? The topic is about wealth distribution not power. He's fucking rich.

Wealth is power
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

i love when racists find a black person they agree with. always hilarious

The last resort of every liberal. The race card. Just because I agree with Freeman's point of view doesn't make me a racist. That's ridiculous.

Also, while we're at it, get an original username tough guy ;)
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no, you're racist because of all the other shit you say. it just so happens most of the people getting on Freeman's dick says the same shit you do in other topics

kewldude475 posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

i love when racists find a black person they agree with. always hilarious

Lol ikr it's like the holy grail. I remember there was a black guy at a Trump rally and they were almost like royalty. Tea partiers latch on to black people too it's hilarious.

Who's more racist? Whiteys that pander to the blacks and patronize them or whiteys who respect them and believe they can do anything if they put their mind to it?
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Caution999 posted...

kewldude475 posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

i love when racists find a black person they agree with. always hilarious

Lol ikr it's like the holy grail. I remember there was a black guy at a Trump rally and they were almost like royalty. Tea partiers latch on to black people too it's hilarious.

Who's more racist? Whiteys that pander to the blacks and patronize them or whiteys who respect them and believe they can do anything if they put their mind to it?

And who are these white people you speak of? Surely it isn't conservatives.
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kewldude475 posted...

Caution999 posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

i love when racists find a black person they agree with. always hilarious

The last resort of every liberal. The race card. Just because I agree with Freeman's point of view doesn't make me a racist. That's ridiculous.

Also, while we're at it, get an original username tough guy ;)

No one said that agreeing with Morgan Freeman means you're racist, we're simply saying that a racist would watch this with glee and be like "YEAHHH I knew America wasn't racist! Take that lazy black people!"

Don't even bother denying it because you know it's true.

Racism certainly exists but not as outwardly as liberals would like you to believe.
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StealthRock posted...

Gojak_v3 posted...

StealthRock posted...

Gojak_v3 posted...

StealthRock posted...

He's wrong. Just because a famous black man says something doesn't make it true

Him and Don Lemon aren't wealthy

Ownership is wealth, not just being a famous TV star


Black folks have always had access to money. One of the first black millionaires was Madam C.J. Walker, who was born around the Civil War time

Actor Morgan Freeman is worth $90 million.

lul

wow. 90 Mill.

Can you point me to something he controls?? A Big corporation?? Laws he creates? Laws he's influenced with his money?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Freeman

Freeman lives in Charleston, Mississippi, and New York City. He owns and operates Ground Zero, a blues club in Clarksdale, Mississippi. He formerly co-owned Madidi, a fine dining restaurant, also in Clarksdale.[38]

Flying
At age 65, Freeman earned a private pilot's license.[39] He owns or has owned at least three private aircraft, including a Cessna Citation 501 jet and a Cessna 414 twin-engine prop. In 2007 he purchased an Emivest SJ30[40] long-range private jet and took delivery in December 2009.[41] He is certified to fly all of them.[42]

oh wow! he owns a whopping blues club and some private Jets. Guess he's running things huh??

What are you talking about? The topic is about wealth distribution not power. He's fucking rich.

Wealth is power

Wealth: an abundance of valuable possessions or money.

I would say $90 million net worth is wealthy based off the actual definition of wealth.
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He's kind of right, but he's also kind of wrong.

The reality is that what Freeman is saying amounts to little more than the general "bootstraps" rhetoric that fails to appropriately quantify the struggles of various people.
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Freeman is obviously wrong but whatever. Successful blacks telling other blacks they need to use bootstraps will always be popular.
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I know the answer but I will ask it anyway, why aren't those working class whites from coal country simply told to pull up their boot straps and find a better job?
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kewldude475 posted...

Caution999 posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

i love when racists find a black person they agree with. always hilarious

The last resort of every liberal. The race card. Just because I agree with Freeman's point of view doesn't make me a racist. That's ridiculous.

Also, while we're at it, get an original username tough guy ;)

No one said that agreeing with Morgan Freeman means you're racist, we're simply saying that a racist would watch this with glee and be like "YEAHHH I knew America wasn't racist! Take that lazy black people!"

Don't even bother denying it because you know it's true.

If Morgan Freeman says because I'm black and was poor and I can do it, all black people can; it's generalization.
If Brad Pitt says because I'm white and was poor and I can do it, all white people can; it's a generalization. The shit posting in this thread is both sides pushing a narrative. I can agree or disagree with Morgan Freeman or Brad Pitt and not being pushing a narrative. The problem is people that do only push narratives always jump to the extreme because they have no other defense.
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The ignorance in this thread is a bit much, even for CE. He is objectively wrong and I could toss a hundred statistics and data that proves otherwise. It's flat out ignorant to act as if every race is treated equally. Not sure why it pains some of the white males of CE to come to terms with this.

It's not like anyone is implying that white Americans are fed and given fine wine on a silver platter, but the disparity is abundantly clear.
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I love it when liberals are proven wrong.
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coolboy11 posted...

Maze_ posted...

Man that's crazy, black people who went to college are more unemployed than white high school drop-outs?

Wonder if they regret wasting their money on college at that point

most places remain very prejudice against hiring Blacks or putting us in serious managerial positions it's why in many areas you will see Blacks clustered into certain companies/government agencies that have less of a hangup and are willing to pay decently.

Even over 50 years ago Jews were very discriminated against, yet were extremely wealthy. When it comes to the market it all is dependent on the dollar. People might have personal predjudice, but someone with great qualifications isn't going to be blackballed due to race. People at the end of the day care about themselves and don't want to hire someone unqualified.

My dad was very successful before being disabled as a racially ambiguous Central American Immigrant. He wasn't very educated, but was very successful in title. He had two clients straight up say they didn't "want a Mexican," but my dad is so charming that they would come to visit him after he stopped working for them. I think there was far more bias for him than most people that work in a business environment like that today. Anyone who is qualified and responsible will not be out of the streets hustling.

The main issue is cultural factors and where you are born. Again, those things are race based, same with many laws that have been in place for awhile. When it gets to these poor black areas with black leadership from the mayor to the governor and more the issue of white Americans not hiring black people isn't relevant.
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LOL now using the term "liberal"is racist.

Whys that? What? Do you just assume every black person is a democrat?


That sounds RACIST to me
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your reading comprehension is abysmal. he said if you use it as an insult, you're probably racist. not that using it is racist. fucking god damn

kewldude475 posted...

Caution999 posted...

I love it when liberals are proven wrong.

Pretty sure the "liberals" are wrecking the opposition this time. "Liberal", "conservative" those labels are meaningless here.

They're right because "no no no Morgan meant to say this" or "he doesn't count!"

Yeah, who's doing the mental gymnastics this time?
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kewldude475 posted...

Also, if you use the term "liberal" as an insult there is at least a 60% chance you are racist.

Oh my God. Wow. XD

AlternativeFAQS posted...

your reading comprehension is abysmal. he said if you use it as an insult, you're probably racist. not that using it is racist. fucking god damn

Original username, bub. Thank me later for giving you the idea
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Iodine posted...

Freeman is obviously wrong but whatever. Successful blacks telling other blacks they need to use bootstraps will always be popular.

Just using a lazy strawman summary. Difference between saying literal "bootstaps," and faily analyzing the situation where out of wedlock pregnancy, fatherlessness, violence(starting with beating kids), etc. is something that needs to be addressed in poor black and brown community's. These aren't areas where white people are a majority or hold any political positions. None of it is one thing. It is the war on drugs, welfare policy that created broken family's, historical racism creating or contributing to negative cultural aspects, etc.

The overarching idea that white people won't hire black people responsible for these bad statistics is bs as these poor black and Latino areas don't have white people really...the private sector is the last place that hurts minorities.
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uh... I made this account when I didn't have access to CE for 6 months. i dont know who the fuck you are

Caution999 posted...

LOL now using the term "liberal"is racist.

Whys that? What? Do you just assume every black person is a democrat?


That sounds RACIST to me

I wouldn't say there is really any poor community that is "liberal."
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Dragonblade01 posted...

He's kind of right, but he's also kind of wrong.

The reality is that what Freeman is saying amounts to little more than the general "bootstraps" rhetoric that fails to appropriately quantify the struggles of various people.

From what he based his opinion on, he's likely seeing it from an old generational perspective where if you work your ass off unapologetically as a black man and don't give up the sky's the limit. I don't think he's totally wrong to an extent but that statement makes him look like he's out of touch with the state of institutionalized racism in America considering he's rarely ever been vocal on the subject (may also be why he's been super successful for decades but it's just an assumption).
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scar the 1 posted...

gafemaqs posted...

http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873

So who's gonna step up and dispute these results?

???
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scar the 1 posted...

???

Then stop naming your kids dumbass shit.
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toptopmax posted...

scar the 1 posted...

???

Then stop naming your kids dumbass shit.

What counts as a dumbass name?
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emblem boy posted...

What counts as a dumbass name?

Something blatantly special snowflake?

Notice how all the Asian and Indian moms and dads figured out that weird names won't help them assimilate?

Indian and Pakistani immigrants are ultra-successful in the USA. Stop using the white privilege narrative as an excuse.
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toptopmax posted...

scar the 1 posted...

???

Then stop naming your kids dumbass shit.

Aiden Jaxon Grayson Sebastian = acceptable.
Jamal = dumbass shit.

CE.
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Like how this topic turned into "Which side wins because of the quotes".
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VandorLee posted...

Just try hard and youll succeed. Its all based on individual effort. No outside factors.

Yes and no. It doesn't mater how hard you work if no one gives you a chance. At the same time, no one will give you a chance if you don't give it your all, but the point is, no one becomes successful in a vacuum.
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toptopmax posted...

emblem boy posted...

What counts as a dumbass name?

Something blatantly special snowflake?

Notice how all the Asian and Indian moms and dads figured out that weird names won't help them assimilate?

From that article in the post you quoted, I don't think Jamal is a special snowflake name. It's really not that uncommon.
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That_Happened posted...

Aiden Jaxon

Yes.

That_Happened posted...

Grayson Sebastian

No. In regards to unacceptable.
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

These aren't areas where white people are a majority or hold any political positions.

I always hear this but Little Rock has never had a black mayor or congressional representative, and the black community in Little Rock is still struggling -- and it's specifically gotten worse since the city changes its governance structure to include several "at-large" city councilor positions who are elected on a city-wide basis, which has had the impact of reducing the power of black citizens and their elected officials.

MARKINGRAM22 posted...

The overarching idea that white people won't hire black people responsible for these bad statistics is bs as these poor black and Latino areas don't have white people really...the private sector is the last place that hurts minorities.

I dunno, I think you'd be surprised about how discriminating people can be on the basis of race.

http://www.jchs.harvard.edu/sites/jchs.harvard.edu/files/w14-11_rosen_0.pdf

Previous research clearly shows that black voucher holders live in much poorer and more
segregated neighborhoods than white voucher holders (Devine 2003; Pendall 2000), but whether or not
landlords make explicit distinctions according to race, as distinguished from socioeconomic background,
is a question for further empirical research. Results from this study do not show race to be a salient trait
on the basis of which landlords select a tenant, but it is relevant to the matching of tenant to property.
In other words, I find no evidence that a landlord would turn away a black voucher holder, but I find
clear evidence that the interplay between the race of the voucher holder and the characteristics of the
neighborhood do inform landlords’ actions. Landlords place black voucher holders in particular types of
neighborhoods, i.e. those where whites do not want to live. For example, Pastor Lewis admits that he
does not place white renters in poor, black, high-crime neighborhoods. Given that few of these
landlords’ units are located in predominantly white neighborhoods, if tenant placement agents like
Pastor Lewis are prioritizing the placement of white voucher holders in those neighborhoods, they are
de facto unable to place black tenants in such neighborhoods. This may be one explanation for the
disparate outcomes we see for black and white voucher holders in the quantitative research.

there's a pretty large body of research showing how evictions proceed along racial lines, as well
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toptopmax posted...

That_Happened posted...

Aiden Jaxon

Yes.

That_Happened posted...

Grayson Sebastian

No. In regards to unacceptable.

All 4 of those names are in the top 50 baby names of 2017 (so far). So are Levi, Oliver and Hunter. So yeah, white people give their kids dumbass names all the time--the difference is their dumbass names are considered acceptable while the average brown name is somehow "weird" or "snowflaky."
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emblem boy posted...

From that article in the post you quoted, I don't think Jamal is a special snowflake name. It's really not that uncommon.

But can you really deny that brown and black immigrants to the US(from selective immigration) are very successful? Is skin color holding them back or is the more likely answer that there's a problem in the community.

I remind you, Pakistani's are brown and Muslim, two things people on the left call unprivileged, yet happen to be very successful.
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That_Happened posted...

All 4 of those names are in the top 50 baby names of 2017 (so far). So are Levi, Oliver and Hunter. So yeah, white people give their kids dumbass names all the time--the difference is their dumbass names are considered acceptable while the average brown name is somehow "weird" or "snowflaky."

Maybe its a millennial thing to do it? Got any proof those names were popular in 1965?
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toptopmax posted...

emblem boy posted...

From that article in the post you quoted, I don't think Jamal is a special snowflake name. It's really not that uncommon.

But can you really deny that brown and black immigrants to the US(from selective immigration) are very successful? Is skin color holding them back or is the more likely answer that there's a problem in the community.

I remind you, Pakistani's are brown and Muslim, two things people on the left call unprivileged, yet happen to be very successful.

I won't deny that immigrants can be successful.
But that's not what your post was about. I don't see what that has to do with you initially saying they should stop using "dumbass names."

Or are you saying that the successful immigrants all use Americanized names or something? Which isn't true
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Is this what arguments on the left have come down to, calling people racists?

toptopmax posted...

That_Happened posted...

All 4 of those names are in the top 50 baby names of 2017 (so far). So are Levi, Oliver and Hunter. So yeah, white people give their kids dumbass names all the time--the difference is their dumbass names are considered acceptable while the average brown name is somehow "weird" or "snowflaky."

Maybe its a millennial thing to do it? Got any proof those names were popular in 1965?

It's not a millenial thing. Popular names come from special snowflaky rich people who are mostly white. They give their kids unique names, and then over time those names get kicked down to the middle class and then to the lower class. Don't be surprised if we see names like "Trig", "Finn" and "Silas" in the middle class in 2025.
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He's right.
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emblem boy posted...

I won't deny that immigrants can be successful.
But that's not what your post was about. I don't see what that has to do with you initially saying they should stop using "dumbass names."

Or are you saying that the successful immigrants all use Americanized names or something? Which isn't true

Its about contributing factors.

I guess I should say that African Americans are really bad about taking steps to better their community. Hell, this whole white privilege narrative is just an excuse to feel better when they fail.

Not all successful immigrants name their kids an anglo name, but its something they often do because they realize assimilation is important.
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