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Khalpz
05/24/17 11:07:54 PM
#51:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
So are you actually going to discuss the event that happened, or are you gonna stay triggered that King also happened to post the video Gavi?

Exactly. This thread gotta go.
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Mister_Spyker
05/24/17 11:08:42 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
He does unfortunately share my English name, and under the usual outrage culture I claim my right to be offended.

When you mention outrage culture, you mean garbage like Hugh Mungus or whatever other stupid reasons people come up with to be angry at whatever. This isn't outrage culture. This is a woman shopping who had to hear some ignorant woman spout racist remarks at her. Why should this be considered normal? I have every right to be outraged at this. Actually, we have a duty to be outraged at this. Pretending this is ok is just being part of the problem. This is disgusting, and having people in my life whom I love who are black, if they were ever to be under this kind of racist attacks, I would be very angry. You do not understand what it's like to grow up in a country believing people don't want you there, you have no idea what it is to feel like you are less than others just because of the color of your skin. Sure, more stable individuals can see how ridiculous that is and cast it aside, but some people, especially young children, suffer greatly because of the ignorance of others, and go through life carrying self-esteem problems because of this kind of crap.
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Mister_Spyker
05/24/17 11:10:27 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
Thus when someone brings something else up they're told they don't care about the issue at hand, which is simply dishonest.

That and of course, if you point this out apparently you support the women in some way.

I don't understand what you mean by these two phrases.
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ROD
05/24/17 11:13:40 PM
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@-Gavirulax- I'm not sure I'm following up Uleh, it may be my fault for skimming through this topic... you're ok with this? It looks like that but then you say you condemned it but I didn't see where. BTW long time no see ^_^
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TheVipaGTS
05/24/17 11:15:13 PM
#57:


ROD posted...
@-Gavirulax- I'm not sure I'm following up Uleh, it may be my fault for skimming through this topic... you're ok with this? It looks like that but then you say you condemned it but I didn't see where. BTW long time no see ^_^

its an odd stance he's taking...he says she's dumb, but then says this is just something that happens so we shouldn't discuss it and i guess just be ok with this being normal...but SHAUN KING is the real person we should be discussing....Apparently calling out people like this and standing against it just means we're part of OUTRAGE CULTURE and we should just sit back with our mouth shut and let it happen.....BUT LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT SHAUN KING...
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Khalpz
05/24/17 11:16:16 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
Khalpz posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
So are you actually going to discuss the event that happened, or are you gonna stay triggered that King also happened to post the video Gavi?

Exactly. This thread gotta go.


"Oh what's that? You already condemned the women? Well for daring to have an opinion on anything else on a text based message board, I'm going to lie and say you didn't discuss the event. In addition to that, I'm going to act like you're angry because I have nothing else to say that isn't mindless virtue signalling".

The fuck are you talking about?

Who gives a fuck about some asshole's reaction to the event? Talk about the video and what happened. That's what's really interesting here.
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ROD
05/24/17 11:17:06 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
ROD posted...
@-Gavirulax- I'm not sure I'm following up Uleh, it may be my fault for skimming through this topic... you're ok with this? It looks like that but then you say you condemned it but I didn't see where. BTW long time no see ^_^

its an odd stance he's taking...he says she's dumb, but then says this is just something that happens so we shouldn't discuss it and i guess just be ok with this being normal...but SHAUN KING is the real person we should be discussing....Apparently calling out people like this and standing against it just means we're part of OUTRAGE CULTURE and we should just sit back with our mouth shut and let it happen.....BUT LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT SHAUN KING...


it certainly seems that way, but I am guessing there must be another thread where he said this is not ok or something
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Kineth
05/24/17 11:17:39 PM
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I wonder which CEman's grandmother that is.
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ROD
05/24/17 11:18:36 PM
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Kineth posted...
I wonder which CEman's grandmother that is.


probably addy's girlfriend IMO
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kingdrake2
05/24/17 11:19:33 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
people can see gavi's posts?


we can, ignore is too easy :(. just not an option no more.
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Mister_Spyker
05/24/17 11:24:47 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
Simple, not following a heard mentality means people will lie about your intentions - or assume that because you haven't openly asked for the public execution of said women, then you must be for her.

Well, for me this isn't about everyone just saying how bad and vile they are, that's just a circlejerk, but it IS a natural reaction which you can't really stop, and it shouldn't be stopped. Peoples natural reactions to these things are important, imo. I think this sort of stuff matters because it's very real and in our faces,making it very hard to deny, and I believe it is vital that we are aware of its existence and that it becomes a debate topic, but also something that we try to change.

-Gavirulax- posted...
I'm Latino and Middle Eastern who grew up Muslim and left said religion at the age of 13, wanna try that one again - you know, the identity outrage culture?

Well, sorry, I shouldn't have inferred about your background, but I still believe what I said, even if you personally don't deal with as many issues as some people. Everyone is different and handles things differently.
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ROD
05/24/17 11:26:34 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
ROD posted...
@-Gavirulax- I'm not sure I'm following up Uleh, it may be my fault for skimming through this topic... you're ok with this? It looks like that but then you say you condemned it but I didn't see where. BTW long time no see ^_^

its an odd stance he's taking...he says she's dumb, but then says this is just something that happens so we shouldn't discuss it and i guess just be ok with this being normal...but SHAUN KING is the real person we should be discussing....Apparently calling out people like this and standing against it just means we're part of OUTRAGE CULTURE and we should just sit back with our mouth shut and let it happen.....BUT LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT SHAUN KING...


Again, you're being dishonest (I'll assume it's intentional, though it could be born of ignorance).

One person talking about something does not negate or invalidate the rest of the topic, the only people that think it does is those looking for something to be outraged over.

You can both have an opinion on something else that people apparently defend rather vigorously and label the women as a a racist - the regressive way is to assume that there is no middle ground - so I'm not exactly shocked that this is the direction people like you are trying to go with.


I can see your point, and I can also see Vipa's point.

Outrage culture is definitely an issue, and we have our fair share of stupid topics here. Like for example did you hear about the SJWs who closed down a food truck because of cultural appropriation? LMAO

Having said that, what happened in this particular situation is fairly disturbing. Imagine going shopping, minding your own way and having some old bigot harass you and call you slurs just because? Not to mention that such particular demographic (hispanics) is under attack because of cheeto.

I guess there's a middle point and that's where we should be here. Just my 2 cents :D
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Lightsasori
05/24/17 11:28:22 PM
#68:


Terra-enforcer posted...
Off the heels of the people doing damage control for the racist lady talking down to the man trying to help her in the Sprint store, let's see how CE does damage control this time.


Wait, what is this?
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ROD
05/24/17 11:29:41 PM
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Lightsasori posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Off the heels of the people doing damage control for the racist lady talking down to the man trying to help her in the Sprint store, let's see how CE does damage control this time.


Wait, what is this?


some ghetto woman was in a sprint store arguing with somebody on the phone. Some random person tried to be helpful and she went on a racist tirade against him, including calling him the "s" word (he was hispanic) and threatened to have her thug hubby beat him up
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ROD
05/24/17 11:31:02 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
ROD posted...
Having said that, what happened in this particular situation is fairly disturbing. Imagine going shopping, minding your own way and having some old bigot harass you and call you slurs just because? Not to mention that such particular demographic (hispanics) is under attack because of cheeto.


I don't have to imagine it, it's happened to me before in both supermarkets and airports, once because some fool assumed I was carrying a bomb because of the way a looked and another by someone ranting against Halal food despite the fact I haven't been a Muslim (was shopping with one) for years.

There are bigoted people everywhere, I guarantee this happens 1,000 times more than people are seeing with viral videos, and as I said in the other topic it is good that these people are now shamed somewhat publicly, but again, I'm not playing into either the regressive left or the far-right with either of their agenda with said issue.


I'm sorry to hear that. That fucking sucks man :/

I feel it's happening waaaayy more often now because of cheeto-in-chief, and that's why it irritates me so much.
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Terra-enforcer
05/24/17 11:32:42 PM
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@zado19 posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
EDIT: Here's the new link since the woman says the n word in the actual video. You can watch the full encounter on ShaunKing

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/867546200043651073

Thought this would have been posted already. Off the heels of the people doing damage control for the racist lady talking down to the man trying to help her in the Sprint store, let's see how CE does damage control this time.

Terra, I didn't know you were a shitposter like this....

How is posting a link to recent events on the Current Events Board "shitposting"?
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Terra-enforcer
05/24/17 11:33:43 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
Oh, the hyper-regressive turd who now works for TYT while deluding himself on his skin color and shaming his own mother publicly? (lol)

What does this post mean and who was it directed towards?

EDIT: Oh I see. Just an excuse. This was literally a reported incident that involved the manager kicking the woman out. You can't just make this shit up.
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Mister_Spyker
05/24/17 11:35:41 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
I'm not playing into either the regressive left or the far-right with either of their agenda with said issue.

See, this is what I don't get, I'm not american, but this two party system sounds like a bunch of crap - it feels like you're living in a box, you either further ones agenda or the others... There has to be a place where I can just speak my mind without putting politics in the mix.
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Terra-enforcer
05/24/17 11:36:32 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
What does this post mean and who was it directed towards?


The post was directed at nobody (I dunno why people think posts like that are personal attacks when directed at media personalities...), it was a sarcastic jab at someone I'm clearly a big fan of.

No one necessarily thinks they're "attacks." I couldn't care what you thought of the guy personally. What you said did sound like a deflection as if this event was any less valid due to the person who posted the video
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sktgamer_13dude
05/24/17 11:43:08 PM
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Gavi just thinks he's all high and mighty cause he hates Shaun King.

Literally no one cares about your opinion on him.
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Terra-enforcer
05/24/17 11:44:00 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
EDIT: Oh I see. Just an excuse. This was literally a reported incident that involved the manager kicking the woman out. You can't just make this shit up.


What was the point of adding that when you already know the answer?

Again, you can be critical of the source (one of them) and the women - they're not mutually exclusive.
Just because someone doesn't like said source, it doesn't mean they're for the obviously wrong, obviously racist women, I have no idea how people can possibly be this slow when it comes to this.

I added that after I realized who you were referring to. I just saw @ShaunKing forgetting I made that distinction in my own post and I assumed that was some other Gamefaqs poster for some reason.

And I'm not trying to berate you like everyone else. I'm just saying I don't understand why you call the entire situation fraudulent because of one, just one of the sources of the video that isn't even the only proof of evidence of this occurrence.
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ROD
05/24/17 11:44:02 PM
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can we all agree this is part of a pattern of racism vs a specific demographic because of cheeto?
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Lightsasori
05/24/17 11:46:46 PM
#82:


ROD posted...
Lightsasori posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Off the heels of the people doing damage control for the racist lady talking down to the man trying to help her in the Sprint store, let's see how CE does damage control this time.


Wait, what is this?


some ghetto woman was in a sprint store arguing with somebody on the phone. Some random person tried to be helpful and she went on a racist tirade against him, including calling him the "s" word (he was hispanic) and threatened to have her thug hubby beat him up


Holy shit. Thank goodness for the age of internet where we can see this racist shit get expose like that.
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sktgamer_13dude
05/24/17 11:53:11 PM
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Why does it matter the source. It's not like he's reporting heresay; there's a fucking video.

Which is why my first post was wondering when people would come in being triggered by Shaun King. It doesn't matter that he reported it; it still happened. Bitching about him shouldn't matter in this topic but, "he's a liberal and it triggers me!!!"
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ultimate reaver
05/24/17 11:55:48 PM
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Why is it that right wingers think some random tards on tumblr spouting nonsense are worth getting upset about, yet when the shoe is on the other foot they go through great leaps and bounds to humiliatingly attempt to deflect the situation
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ROD
05/24/17 11:56:53 PM
#89:


ultimate reaver posted...
Why is it that right wingers think some random tards on tumblr spouting nonsense are worth getting upset about, yet when the shoe is on the other foot they go through great leaps and bounds to humiliatingly attempt to deflect the situation


for the same reason they go like "but her emails!!!" over the political circus going on. They feel everything is a game and they chose their side and they're sticking with it.
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sktgamer_13dude
05/25/17 12:12:04 AM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
It doesn't matter that he reported it; it still happened. Bitching about him shouldn't matter in this topic but, "he's a liberal and it triggers me!!!"


Kinda like "Gavi said this and he triggers me!!!".
I'm all about diversity. <3

He said as he gets triggered by the mere thought of liberals doing something.
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Kineth
05/25/17 4:30:05 AM
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ROD posted...
can we all agree this is part of a pattern of racism vs a specific demographic because of cheeto?


You know that CE won't agree on this, but you also know the answer is yes, his election has emboldened people like her.

To be fair, I haven't been called an N in such a manner during his presidency, but it's only 4 months old.
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ROD
05/25/17 9:39:48 AM
#93:


Kineth posted...
ROD posted...
can we all agree this is part of a pattern of racism vs a specific demographic because of cheeto?


You know that CE won't agree on this, but you also know the answer is yes, his election has emboldened people like her.

To be fair, I haven't been called an N in such a manner during his presidency, but it's only 4 months old.


At least there's some good news there (you haven't experienced that in these 4 months). The fact that we're commenting on it shows how low the bar has been set.
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That_Happened
05/25/17 9:56:43 AM
#94:


Kineth posted...
You know that CE won't agree on this, but you also know the answer is yes, his election has emboldened people like her.


Isn't this good though? I prefer it when the racists are in your face and open about it, rather than when they use code words or try to hide it. The more people using racial slurs, the better. It shows me exactly who to avoid. Because I hate being at a party when a white person I've been getting along with goes full racist and then I have to loudly shout "UH I'M NOT WITH THEM!"
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ROD
05/25/17 10:01:20 AM
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That_Happened posted...
Kineth posted...
You know that CE won't agree on this, but you also know the answer is yes, his election has emboldened people like her.


Isn't this good though? I prefer it when the racists are in your face and open about it, rather than when they use code words or try to hide it. The more people using racial slurs, the better. It shows me exactly who to avoid. Because I hate being at a party when a white person I've been getting along with goes full racist and then I have to loudly shout "UH I'M NOT WITH THEM!"


Not really, no: https://www.britannica.com/topic/broken-windows-theory

When it becomes "ok" or at least commonplace to bully, dehumanize and insult a specific person, that person becomes less valuable in the eyes of everybody.

Think about the little guy at high school who got bullied 24/7 by the jocks. Maybe he was a nice guy, but no one would be want to be associated with him due to that, unless it were people going through the same. If cheeto makes it ok or at least commonplace to go full MAGA vs certain ethnic group, no one outside that group will want to take those people seriously in terms of say, employment, romantically or socially.
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05/25/17 10:06:17 AM
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ROD posted...
When it becomes "ok" or at least commonplace to bully, dehumanize and insult a specific person, that person becomes less valuable in the eyes of everybody.


Maybe I'm naive but I don't think it has become "ok" to bully anyone. In most of these videos you don't see a lot of people cheering on the racist. Normal people are genuinely shocked and disturbed by this kind of behavior. That's why I think it's better for racists to be out in the open--they end up alienating themselves without the victim even having to do anything.
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ROD
05/25/17 10:34:55 AM
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That_Happened posted...
ROD posted...
When it becomes "ok" or at least commonplace to bully, dehumanize and insult a specific person, that person becomes less valuable in the eyes of everybody.


Maybe I'm naive but I don't think it has become "ok" to bully anyone. In most of these videos you don't see a lot of people cheering on the racist. Normal people are genuinely shocked and disturbed by this kind of behavior. That's why I think it's better for racists to be out in the open--they end up alienating themselves without the victim even having to do anything.


Things that used to cause outrage are not met with a more tepid response (e.g. that woman who used racial slurs at the sprint store). People get used to it.
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ROD
05/25/17 10:55:32 AM
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fenderbender321 posted...
This doesn't even qualify as news. People get mad every day. *YAWN*


so you block the way of random people and then yell racial slurs every time you get mad?
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Terra-enforcer
05/25/17 11:53:02 AM
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fenderbender321 posted...
This doesn't even qualify as news. People get mad every day. *YAWN*

I'll take "Shitty excuse to defend racism" for 400, Alex.
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