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KiwiTerraRizing
06/02/17 9:29:44 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Dark Souls 1, if you take on the Asylum Demon with no weapon it's pretty damn hard.

Still not the hardest boss though, fight the 4 Kings or S&O with no weapon and see how that goes.


But you don't have a weapon, after that you do.
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s0nicfan
06/02/17 11:26:58 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Dark Souls 1, if you take on the Asylum Demon with no weapon it's pretty damn hard.

Still not the hardest boss though, fight the 4 Kings or S&O with no weapon and see how that goes.


The thing is... you can grind xp and upgrade mats and make every other boss easier (other than cleric beast). The Asylum Demon offers no such crutch.
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KiwiTerraRizing
06/02/17 11:53:55 PM
#53:


s0nicfan posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Dark Souls 1, if you take on the Asylum Demon with no weapon it's pretty damn hard.

Still not the hardest boss though, fight the 4 Kings or S&O with no weapon and see how that goes.


The thing is... you can grind xp and upgrade mats and make every other boss easier (other than cleric beast). The Asylum Demon offers no such crutch.


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Blue_Inigo
06/02/17 11:59:15 PM
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Frostshock posted...
Brock with pikachu

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Bloodychess
06/03/17 12:02:17 AM
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creativerealms posted...
Godnorgosh posted...
Brock in Pokemon Yellow imo. Obviously you can catch and level up grass types, but you actually have to go out of your way just to prepare for him.

If "literally impossible" counts as hard, then Paper Mario is an obvious example.

Brock is easy in yellow if you catch Mankey on victory road or a Nidoran. Nidoran gets a fighting move earlier in yellow just for a Brock.


This. Brock's easy too if you got red version, as you'll have mankey's by then too.

lol blue version
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Ving_Rhames
06/03/17 12:02:51 AM
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First Zone of the Enders lol
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Ic3Bullet
06/03/17 12:09:25 AM
#57:


s0nicfan posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Dark Souls 1, if you take on the Asylum Demon with no weapon it's pretty damn hard.

Still not the hardest boss though, fight the 4 Kings or S&O with no weapon and see how that goes.


The thing is... you can grind xp and upgrade mats and make every other boss easier (other than cleric beast). The Asylum Demon offers no such crutch.

Except for obtaining your weapon. And you placing the restriction of no weapon on yourself doesn't make the boss harder. If that were the case, you could unequip your weapon on any video game that allows it, and fight any boss that way and say it's the hardest.
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Oystersoup
06/03/17 12:11:18 AM
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Poseidon kicked my ass the first time I played God Of War III.
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s0nicfan
06/03/17 12:12:12 AM
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Ic3Bullet posted...
s0nicfan posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Dark Souls 1, if you take on the Asylum Demon with no weapon it's pretty damn hard.

Still not the hardest boss though, fight the 4 Kings or S&O with no weapon and see how that goes.


The thing is... you can grind xp and upgrade mats and make every other boss easier (other than cleric beast). The Asylum Demon offers no such crutch.

Except for obtaining your weapon. And you placing the restriction of no weapon on yourself doesn't make the boss harder. If that were the case, you could unequip your weapon on any video game that allows it, and fight any boss that way and say it's the hardest.


Fine, pick any of the starting classes. Tell me again how you can level and increase the strength of your equipment against the Asylum Demon like you can against any other boss?
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Bloodychess
06/03/17 12:13:09 AM
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Given that you had no way of defeating him, I'd say Sigma in his War Suit from Mega Man X
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Frostshock
06/03/17 12:23:03 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Dark Souls 1, if you take on the Asylum Demon with no weapon it's pretty damn hard.

Still not the hardest boss though, fight the 4 Kings or S&O with no weapon and see how that goes.


The thing is... you can grind xp and upgrade mats and make every other boss easier (other than cleric beast). The Asylum Demon offers no such crutch.


In Dark Souls, when you don't deal a lot of damage, it means you have to dodge perfectly for a very long time.

Fighting the Asylum Demon without a weapon takes a VERY long time, but it is very easy to play the fight perfectly for the 30-60 minutes it will take to actually kill it. Not even remotely as hard as other fights.
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Tequilawhatitdo
06/03/17 12:48:25 AM
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Ninja Gaiden on Xbox.
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GAMER_X_REVIVAL
06/03/17 12:55:26 AM
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>60 something posts in and not a single post for Matador from SMT Nocturne

People getting utterly annihilated by that boss was practically a meme when that game came out lol
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Annihilated
06/03/17 12:57:38 AM
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Sonic 2 for Game Gear
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Ic3Bullet
06/03/17 12:58:58 AM
#66:


Frostshock posted...
s0nicfan posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Dark Souls 1, if you take on the Asylum Demon with no weapon it's pretty damn hard.

Still not the hardest boss though, fight the 4 Kings or S&O with no weapon and see how that goes.


The thing is... you can grind xp and upgrade mats and make every other boss easier (other than cleric beast). The Asylum Demon offers no such crutch.


In Dark Souls, when you don't deal a lot of damage, it means you have to dodge perfectly for a very long time.

Fighting the Asylum Demon without a weapon takes a VERY long time, but it is very easy to play the fight perfectly for the 30-60 minutes it will take to actually kill it. Not even remotely as hard as other fights.

True. His attacks are very predictable and dodgeable. And 30-60 minutes? Nah it probably wouldn't take longer than 10 minutes. In fact I'm about to go do this just for the shits and giggles.
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MJOLNRVII
06/03/17 1:02:16 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
that first boss in Dragon Age Inquisition was quite a doozy on hard, and the game/combat only gets easier as you level, so that i guess

This reminds me, wasn't one of the early bosses in DA:O nerfed or something? I think it was the first Ogre you encounter.
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Ic3Bullet
06/03/17 1:06:53 AM
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Oh I just remembered a lot of people think that Flaahgra guy on Metroid Prime is really difficult on Hard mode, but then I remembered there is a boss before him unless tutorial bosses don't count.
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BigTee66
06/03/17 1:17:29 AM
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Yian Kut Ku was a newb trap in Monster Hunter
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Awesker002
06/03/17 1:22:03 AM
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I always played Borderlands 1 as Lillith and sledge is easily the hardest boss to fight as her. The more you level up her phase walk the easier the game gets as her so it's all downhill from there.
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Ic3Bullet
06/03/17 1:22:16 AM
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Ic3Bullet posted...
True. His attacks are very predictable and dodgeable. And 30-60 minutes? Nah it probably wouldn't take longer than 10 minutes. In fact I'm about to go do this just for the shits and giggles.

Well shit this is harder than I thought. And I'm even allowing myself to use the broken sword hilt. Lol. I also chose the sorcerer since he has the lowest starting str and end stats. So far the longest I've lasted is less than a minute and a half and I depleted probably less than a tenth of his health.

Edit: last attempt. Took me 4 minutes and 40 seconds to deplete less then one-fourth of his total health. Fuck. Lol.
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TriforceofPlot
06/03/17 1:24:26 AM
#72:


Annihilated posted...
Sonic 2 for Game Gear


How did this game take 65 posts to show up here? That game is notorious for that boss.
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Milkman5
06/03/17 1:26:04 AM
#73:


Chrono Trigger in a way
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Questionmarktarius
06/03/17 1:26:44 AM
#74:


That freaking bird in Megaman Zero.
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TheFuzz3451
06/03/17 1:29:11 AM
#75:


Hooktail, if you don't use the cricket badge, is the hardest boss in TTYD

Otherwise a joke battle, though
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GamerSanta
06/03/17 1:29:31 AM
#76:


TriforceofPlot posted...
Annihilated posted...
Sonic 2 for Game Gear


How did this game take 65 posts to show up here? That game is notorious for that boss.

Is that the lobster thing with the bouncing rocks? I played that game on and off only getting up to that boss. It was about 3 years later I saw the next zone
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Darkraiomb
06/03/17 1:32:22 AM
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Portal and Portal 2
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Electrokinesis
06/03/17 1:37:26 AM
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Gohma is the hardest boss in Ocarina of Time and it's not even close.
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TriforceofPlot
06/03/17 1:40:47 AM
#79:


GamerSanta posted...
TriforceofPlot posted...
Annihilated posted...
Sonic 2 for Game Gear


How did this game take 65 posts to show up here? That game is notorious for that boss.

Is that the lobster thing with the bouncing rocks? I played that game on and off only getting up to that boss. It was about 3 years later I saw the next zone


Yep, that's the one.
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TheBiggerWiggle
06/03/17 1:42:00 AM
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I know many probably haven't played it, but the first game I thought of was Lost Odyssey. The first two bosses were easily the toughest in the game.
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Ic3Bullet
06/03/17 2:02:46 AM
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Odalwa in Majora's Mask can be pretty difficult. Especially considering many people might not have more than 3 hearts when they reach him.
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Ivany2008
06/03/17 3:05:31 AM
#82:


Father Gascoigne from Bloodborne. He technically counts as Clerical Beast isn't one you have to beat to progress the storyline.

Diablo 1 - The Butcher

Luigis Mansion - Baby
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TriforceofPlot
06/03/17 3:18:31 AM
#83:


Ivany2008 posted...
Luigis Mansion - Baby


What? The baby is the easiest boss, the only attack that's dangerous is the ball attack, the rest of his attacks are pattern-based. Boolossus is easily the toughest boss, once he's down to a few Boos, they become very hard to freeze, and they can easily chip away at your health.
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LordFarquad1312
06/03/17 3:24:49 AM
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Binding of Isaac Afterbirth+. There's a challenge where you start by figthing one of the 4 end game bosses, and move up aaaall the way back to the first floor, losing and item for each floor you go trough.
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OmegaVideoGameG
06/03/17 3:35:28 AM
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Illusion of Gaia 1st boss was insane.
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MhkaCHemistry
06/03/17 3:38:01 AM
#86:


Bloodychess posted...
creativerealms posted...
Godnorgosh posted...
Brock in Pokemon Yellow imo. Obviously you can catch and level up grass types, but you actually have to go out of your way just to prepare for him.

If "literally impossible" counts as hard, then Paper Mario is an obvious example.

Brock is easy in yellow if you catch Mankey on victory road or a Nidoran. Nidoran gets a fighting move earlier in yellow just for a Brock.


This. Brock's easy too if you got red version, as you'll have mankey's by then too.

lol blue version


Mankey does not spawn on Route 22 (?) in Red Version. It was put in specifically to help in Yellow.
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Strider102
06/03/17 3:38:09 AM
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Not a boss but that T-Rex in the first area of Final Fantasy XII.
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DezCaughtIt
06/03/17 3:40:37 AM
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Strider102 posted...
Not a boss but that T-Rex in the first area of Final Fantasy XII.

I remember laughing hysterically for being dumb enough to try to fight it after I was one-shot by it
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Strider102
06/03/17 3:42:56 AM
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DezCaughtIt posted...
Strider102 posted...
Not a boss but that T-Rex in the first area of Final Fantasy XII.

I remember laughing hysterically for being dumb enough to try to fight it after I was one-shot by it


I think pretty much everyone tried fighting it tbh. I remember thinking "That thing looks like a challenge, ok time to make you exti...O.O how strong is this thing!?"
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winstonthewhite
06/03/17 3:52:26 AM
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Obscure one, but Scorpion King: Sword of Osiris on the GBA requires you to actually lose to the first boss to progress, if that counts?
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frozenshock
06/03/17 4:03:38 AM
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Or Final Fantasy II, where you fight the black knights early on and get creamed
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Monferno_AQW
06/03/17 4:06:27 AM
#92:


Lord of the Rings: The War in the North. Tharzog was a fucking bitch to kill. I lost count how many time I did that battle until I won.
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BigTee66
06/03/17 4:08:06 AM
#93:


TriforceofPlot posted...
Annihilated posted...
Sonic 2 for Game Gear


How did this game take 65 posts to show up here? That game is notorious for that boss.


oh man, i had horrible childhood memories of that stupid boss.
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Strider102
06/03/17 4:09:37 AM
#94:


frozenshock posted...
Or Final Fantasy II, where you fight the black knights early on and get creamed


That's a good one. If you cheat and beat them the game resets back to the main menu.
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Questionmarktarius
06/03/17 2:36:36 PM
#95:


Gaibon & Slogra in SOTN
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DevsBro
06/03/17 4:03:59 PM
#96:


Illusion of Gaia 1st boss was insane.

But not as tough as those damn vampires.
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