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MyPetKenshin
06/04/17 12:25:35 AM
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The school holds a day where people of color leave the campus. This is done to increase awareness of what their presence adds. This professor supported this event in times past. However this year, the students requested that the absence day be directed towards caucasians (idk the point of it. The whole thing just seems like it's asking for trouble, but I digress).

The professor didn't feel like whites should have to leave. Again, he was fine when it was minorities that had to leave, but not whites. That's where the problem began. It wasn't just a bunch of non-whites turning on whites, it was that his actions were hypocritical.

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/evergreen-state-faculty-turn-on-bret-weinstein-say-he-endangered-students/

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06/04/17 12:27:44 AM
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He didnt feel like ANYBODY should have to leave. They could voluntarily leave but they shouldnt demand somebody else leaves.
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Alucard188
06/04/17 12:27:54 AM
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He was fine when it was a conscientious choice for those students to excuse themselves from classes for the day. He had a problem with it when they decided to use that day to "invite" white people to leave instead. That is an act of oppression. It's not hypocritical.
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Milkman5
06/04/17 12:27:57 AM
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your reasoning makes no sense
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G_G
06/04/17 12:28:00 AM
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gotta love when they post their shitty source and they use google amp to hide it. seriously you are better off posting the real thing
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3rd_Best_Master
06/04/17 12:28:38 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
He was fine when it was a conscientious choice for those students to excuse themselves from classes for the day. He had a problem with it when they decided to use that day to "invite" white people to leave instead. That is an act of oppression. It's not hypocritical.

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MakoReizei
06/04/17 12:29:37 AM
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it's fucking stupid either way. People go to school to learn reading, writing and math. not this shit.
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MyPetKenshin
06/04/17 12:30:12 AM
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G_G posted...
gotta love when they post their shitty source and they use google amp to hide it. seriously you are better off posting the real thing
Im on my phone dude. I tried to get the actual site specifically cuz I know most people aren't on their phones. If you can link me to the desktop article I'll happily change it.
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Delirious_Beard
06/04/17 12:30:22 AM
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G_G posted...
gotta love when they post their shitty source and they use google amp to hide it. seriously you are better off posting the real thing


it really is pathetic
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06/04/17 12:30:52 AM
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lolamerica
06/04/17 12:31:09 AM
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That's an interesting take on a clear situation. The normal event was people of minority voluntarily leaving campus to show their impact. They wanted white people to not show up, I don't think voluntarily, this year. Sort of a big difference.
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TomNook20
06/04/17 12:35:48 AM
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No there isn't, this is the original story.

If you want to walk out that's fine, you have a right to protest. You can't force people of a certain race to leave campus though, that's racist. This isn't hard.
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Bloodychess
06/04/17 12:35:59 AM
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Nobody forced those minorities to leave.
Minorities and minority sympathizers are outraged that a white professor chose not to leave
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Bloodychess
06/04/17 12:37:31 AM
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The faculty letter signed by 71 professors made a promise to capitulate to the student’s list of demands, while blaming Weinstein for endangering students.

Hahaha holy shit, they're blaming this guy for endangering students. Joke coast
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MyPetKenshin
06/04/17 12:38:19 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
He was fine when it was a conscientious choice for those students to excuse themselves from classes for the day. He had a problem with it when they decided to use that day to "invite" white people to leave instead. That is an act of oppression. It's not hypocritical.
Every single white person on campus left, and then he went to the media with it. According to the faculty, he didn't try to diffuse the situation, he escalated it... knowingly.

He could have explained why he felt the way he did, in a calm manner.

Personally, because of my religious views, I don't salute the flag. I stand out of respect, but I don't salute. When people ask me about this, I explain it to them calmly. I don't turn an easily misconstrued situation into a mushroom cloud. If I can do that, couldn't he?
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Alucard188
06/04/17 12:38:33 AM
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Bloodychess posted...
The faculty letter signed by 71 professors made a promise to capitulate to the student’s list of demands, while blaming Weinstein for endangering students.

Hahaha holy shit, they're blaming this guy for endangering students. Joke coast


Joke school with a milquetoast progressive dean, who won't stand up for his own faculty. Pretty sad.

MyPetKenshin posted...
Every single white person on campus left, and then he went to the media with it. According to the faculty, he didn't try to diffuse the situation, he escalated it... knowingly.

He could have explained why he felt the way he did, in a calm manner.


Have you... Have you even watched any of the videos and read the letter? Look - I know this is an easy method to troll, but please. The prof was the most calm and reasonable person out of the entire bunch.
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GOATSLAYER
06/04/17 12:39:58 AM
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MyPetKenshin posted...
Alucard188 posted...
He was fine when it was a conscientious choice for those students to excuse themselves from classes for the day. He had a problem with it when they decided to use that day to "invite" white people to leave instead. That is an act of oppression. It's not hypocritical.
Every single white person on campus left, and then he went to the media with it. According to the faculty, he didn't try to diffuse the situation, he escalated it... knowingly.

He could have explained why he felt the way he did, in a calm manner.

Personally, because of my religious views, I don't salute the flag. I stand out of respect, but I don't salute. When people ask me about this, I explain it to them calmly. I don't turn an easily misconstrued situation into a mushroom cloud. If I can do that, couldn't he?

That's exactly what he tried to do but the students kept yelling over him and saying that he doesn't get the right to speak because of his "white privilege" and because he was "racist"
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MyPetKenshin
06/04/17 12:41:57 AM
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GOATSLAYER posted...
MyPetKenshin posted...
Alucard188 posted...
He was fine when it was a conscientious choice for those students to excuse themselves from classes for the day. He had a problem with it when they decided to use that day to "invite" white people to leave instead. That is an act of oppression. It's not hypocritical.
Every single white person on campus left, and then he went to the media with it. According to the faculty, he didn't try to diffuse the situation, he escalated it... knowingly.

He could have explained why he felt the way he did, in a calm manner.

Personally, because of my religious views, I don't salute the flag. I stand out of respect, but I don't salute. When people ask me about this, I explain it to them calmly. I don't turn an easily misconstrued situation into a mushroom cloud. If I can do that, couldn't he?

That's exactly what he tried to do but the students kept yelling over him and saying that he doesn't get the right to speak because of his "white privilege" and because he was "racist"
See but all the accounts differ here. Half say he made no attempt, the other half say they refused to listen. Every article seems to have a bias. And the truth is getting muddier and muddier.
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GOATSLAYER
06/04/17 12:42:32 AM
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MyPetKenshin posted...
GOATSLAYER posted...
MyPetKenshin posted...
Alucard188 posted...
He was fine when it was a conscientious choice for those students to excuse themselves from classes for the day. He had a problem with it when they decided to use that day to "invite" white people to leave instead. That is an act of oppression. It's not hypocritical.
Every single white person on campus left, and then he went to the media with it. According to the faculty, he didn't try to diffuse the situation, he escalated it... knowingly.

He could have explained why he felt the way he did, in a calm manner.

Personally, because of my religious views, I don't salute the flag. I stand out of respect, but I don't salute. When people ask me about this, I explain it to them calmly. I don't turn an easily misconstrued situation into a mushroom cloud. If I can do that, couldn't he?

That's exactly what he tried to do but the students kept yelling over him and saying that he doesn't get the right to speak because of his "white privilege" and because he was "racist"
See but all the accounts differ here. Half say he made no attempt, the other half say they refused to listen. Every article seems to have a bias. And the truth is getting muddier and muddier.

There was literally a video of what happened. Watch it and come to your own conclusion
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MyPetKenshin
06/04/17 12:44:35 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
Bloodychess posted...
The faculty letter signed by 71 professors made a promise to capitulate to the student’s list of demands, while blaming Weinstein for endangering students.

Hahaha holy shit, they're blaming this guy for endangering students. Joke coast


Joke school with a milquetoast progressive dean, who won't stand up for his own faculty. Pretty sad.

MyPetKenshin posted...
Every single white person on campus left, and then he went to the media with it. According to the faculty, he didn't try to diffuse the situation, he escalated it... knowingly.

He could have explained why he felt the way he did, in a calm manner.


Have you... Have you even watched any of the videos and read the letter? Look - I know this is an easy method to troll, but please. The prof was the most calm and reasonable person out of the entire bunch.

And I suppose he chose to break the story on Fox News because they're known to be such a repuditable unbiased news source?
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Bloodychess
06/04/17 12:44:54 AM
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GOATSLAYER posted...
MyPetKenshin posted...
GOATSLAYER posted...
MyPetKenshin posted...
Alucard188 posted...
He was fine when it was a conscientious choice for those students to excuse themselves from classes for the day. He had a problem with it when they decided to use that day to "invite" white people to leave instead. That is an act of oppression. It's not hypocritical.
Every single white person on campus left, and then he went to the media with it. According to the faculty, he didn't try to diffuse the situation, he escalated it... knowingly.

He could have explained why he felt the way he did, in a calm manner.

Personally, because of my religious views, I don't salute the flag. I stand out of respect, but I don't salute. When people ask me about this, I explain it to them calmly. I don't turn an easily misconstrued situation into a mushroom cloud. If I can do that, couldn't he?

That's exactly what he tried to do but the students kept yelling over him and saying that he doesn't get the right to speak because of his "white privilege" and because he was "racist"
See but all the accounts differ here. Half say he made no attempt, the other half say they refused to listen. Every article seems to have a bias. And the truth is getting muddier and muddier.

There was literally a video of what happened. Watch it and come to your own conclusion

Nope, those video's were edited by white nationalists. The students said so themselves.
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Alucard188
06/04/17 12:46:00 AM
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MyPetKenshin posted...
And I suppose he chose to break the story on Fox News because they're known to be such a repuditable unbiased news source?


They went to him, not the other way around. The videos and protests came out a while before he even had an interview. Please quit moving goal posts and being disingenuous in your arguments.
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GreatEvilEmpire
06/04/17 12:47:36 AM
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The truth is clear. There is nothing muddy about it. The protesters wanted all whites off the campus. That's not how things works. People have finals, projects to submit, things to learn and classes to teach. People don't have to leave campus if they don't want to.

There's a difference between volunteering to do something and forcing people to do something. There's a difference between a girl voluntarily sleeping with me than a girl I 'invite' to sleep with me. In case you don't know the difference, the 2nd one is rape.
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wolverinev2
06/04/17 12:49:14 AM
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There are like multiple videos that were leaked that pretty much show in detail what actually happened.

Suffice to say, it made the students look like complete morons and racists. They also tried to hold a seminar on why Asians are a part of the problem.
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Bloodychess
06/04/17 12:51:28 AM
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wolverinev2 posted...
There are like multiple videos that were leaked that pretty much show in detail what actually happened.

Suffice to say, it made the students look like complete morons and racists. They also tried to hold a seminar on why Asians are a part of the problem.

Bloodychess posted...
Nope, those video's were edited by white nationalists. The students said so themselves.

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MyPetKenshin
06/04/17 1:06:41 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
MyPetKenshin posted...
And I suppose he chose to break the story on Fox News because they're known to be such a repuditable unbiased news source?


They went to him, not the other way around. The videos and protests came out a while before he even had an interview. Please quit moving goal posts and being disingenuous in your arguments.
I'm not moving goal posts. I'm saying he could have done other things to diffuse the situation. When talking to an angry mob of people didn't work (because angry mobs are known to be understanding), he went on Twitter. Then to news outlets.

https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/32946/

Can you really tell me a peaceful solution was his primary goal when he's escalating the situation? He was pissed. And he figured if they weren't gonna hear him out he'd take action. And he had a right to be pissed. But when you can't settle things with words, you try again and again.

Also in his email, he said he disapproves of the idea behind the day of absence as a whole, but the faculty attests to him supporting the idea prior to this instance. And I don't mean the part about forcing people out. I mean the concept of the day of absence. According to the faculty, there's a contradiction there.
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Mal_Fet
06/04/17 1:11:18 AM
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MyPetKenshin posted...
The school holds a day where people of color leave the campus.

Fake news. Leaving a campus of your own accord is one thing, but demanding that others leave a campus is something else.

It's the difference between a walkout and putting up a "white people only" sign.
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Mal_Fet
06/04/17 1:12:06 AM
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Bloodychess posted...
wolverinev2 posted...
There are like multiple videos that were leaked that pretty much show in detail what actually happened.

Suffice to say, it made the students look like complete morons and racists. They also tried to hold a seminar on why Asians are a part of the problem.

Bloodychess posted...
Nope, those video's were edited by white nationalists. The students said so themselves.

The racist students said the videos in which they do racist things was edited by other racists.

Yeah ok.
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_Krave_
06/04/17 1:15:17 AM
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MakoReizei posted...
it's fucking stupid either way. People go to school to learn reading, writing and math. not this shit.

This completely.

But school isn't about learning so much anymore.
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Iodine
06/04/17 1:18:09 AM
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HHH is the game posted...
He didnt feel like ANYBODY should have to leave. They could voluntarily leave but they shouldnt demand somebody else leaves.


Alucard188 posted...
He was fine when it was a conscientious choice for those students to excuse themselves from classes for the day. He had a problem with it when they decided to use that day to "invite" white people to leave instead. That is an act of oppression. It's not hypocritical.

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MyPetKenshin
06/04/17 1:18:09 AM
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Well lemme put it this way, if I'm wrong and severely misinformed, I apologize. I can't view the video yet, but apparently I don't have all the information until I do. I thought I could go by the articles alone, but if I'm wrong and the video proves it, I'll close the topic.

I don't support racism. And if he's the victim of racism, then yeah it's not right. I'll watch the vid as soon as I'm home.
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TrollSlayer11
06/04/17 1:19:38 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
He was fine when it was a conscientious choice for those students to excuse themselves from classes for the day. He had a problem with it when they decided to use that day to "invite" white people to leave instead. That is an act of oppression. It's not hypocritical.

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MyPetKenshin
06/04/17 1:29:20 AM
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@TrollSlayer11

1. I doubt you're black.
2. I'm half black and I still doubt you're black.
3. You don't have to be black to be enraged at racism.
4. You said you "watched" it. I already said I haven't seen the video yet. I'm a moron yet you can't read?
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Tombawocxer
06/04/17 1:31:36 AM
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Good fucking god Evergreen is such a fucking joke
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NonDairyMiltank
06/04/17 1:32:51 AM
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MyPetKenshin posted...
GOATSLAYER posted...
MyPetKenshin posted...
Alucard188 posted...
He was fine when it was a conscientious choice for those students to excuse themselves from classes for the day. He had a problem with it when they decided to use that day to "invite" white people to leave instead. That is an act of oppression. It's not hypocritical.
Every single white person on campus left, and then he went to the media with it. According to the faculty, he didn't try to diffuse the situation, he escalated it... knowingly.

He could have explained why he felt the way he did, in a calm manner.

Personally, because of my religious views, I don't salute the flag. I stand out of respect, but I don't salute. When people ask me about this, I explain it to them calmly. I don't turn an easily misconstrued situation into a mushroom cloud. If I can do that, couldn't he?

That's exactly what he tried to do but the students kept yelling over him and saying that he doesn't get the right to speak because of his "white privilege" and because he was "racist"
See but all the accounts differ here. Half say he made no attempt, the other half say they refused to listen. Every article seems to have a bias. And the truth is getting muddier and muddier.

ugh you realize what you're saying here invalidates the claims of your previous post, right?

by admitting that the accounts and articles differ on what happened, you're diminishing the credibility of those claims
you said "every single white person on campus left"...but how do you know that if your sources are admittedly unclear?
and this ambiguity surrounding your sources causes the same issue with each claim
how do you know the faculty saw everything? how do you know the professor didn't try to explain things diplomatically at some point?
you admit you can't because you don't know for sure what sources are telling the truth...

but your best clue would be actually watching the videos showing interactions between the protesting students and the professor
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MyPetKenshin
06/04/17 1:37:49 AM
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NonDairyMiltank posted...
MyPetKenshin posted...
GOATSLAYER posted...
MyPetKenshin posted...
Alucard188 posted...
He was fine when it was a conscientious choice for those students to excuse themselves from classes for the day. He had a problem with it when they decided to use that day to "invite" white people to leave instead. That is an act of oppression. It's not hypocritical.
Every single white person on campus left, and then he went to the media with it. According to the faculty, he didn't try to diffuse the situation, he escalated it... knowingly.

He could have explained why he felt the way he did, in a calm manner.

Personally, because of my religious views, I don't salute the flag. I stand out of respect, but I don't salute. When people ask me about this, I explain it to them calmly. I don't turn an easily misconstrued situation into a mushroom cloud. If I can do that, couldn't he?

That's exactly what he tried to do but the students kept yelling over him and saying that he doesn't get the right to speak because of his "white privilege" and because he was "racist"
See but all the accounts differ here. Half say he made no attempt, the other half say they refused to listen. Every article seems to have a bias. And the truth is getting muddier and muddier.

ugh you realize what you're saying here invalidates the claims of your previous post, right?

by admitting that the accounts and articles differ on what happened, you're diminishing the credibility of those claims
you said "every single white person on campus left"...but how do you know that if your sources are admittedly unclear?
and this ambiguity surrounding your sources causes the same issue with each claim
how do you know the faculty saw everything? how do you know the professor didn't try to explain things diplomatically at some point?
you admit you can't because you don't know for sure what sources are telling the truth...

but your best clue would be actually watching the videos showing interactions between the protesting students and the professor
You're absolutely right here. I have no grounds to argue a point till I've seen it. But in my defense, I really didn't realize the video was of them addressing him. I thought it was a video of them protesting outside the college.

But when you're right you're right. I can't say anything till I see it.
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MyPetKenshin
06/04/17 1:42:28 AM
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TrollSlayer11 posted...
NonDairyMiltank posted...
MyPetKenshin posted...
GOATSLAYER posted...
MyPetKenshin posted...
Alucard188 posted...
He was fine when it was a conscientious choice for those students to excuse themselves from classes for the day. He had a problem with it when they decided to use that day to "invite" white people to leave instead. That is an act of oppression. It's not hypocritical.
Every single white person on campus left, and then he went to the media with it. According to the faculty, he didn't try to diffuse the situation, he escalated it... knowingly.

He could have explained why he felt the way he did, in a calm manner.

Personally, because of my religious views, I don't salute the flag. I stand out of respect, but I don't salute. When people ask me about this, I explain it to them calmly. I don't turn an easily misconstrued situation into a mushroom cloud. If I can do that, couldn't he?

That's exactly what he tried to do but the students kept yelling over him and saying that he doesn't get the right to speak because of his "white privilege" and because he was "racist"
See but all the accounts differ here. Half say he made no attempt, the other half say they refused to listen. Every article seems to have a bias. And the truth is getting muddier and muddier.

ugh you realize what you're saying here invalidates the claims of your previous post, right?

by admitting that the accounts and articles differ on what happened, you're diminishing the credibility of those claims
you said "every single white person on campus left"...but how do you know that if your sources are admittedly unclear?
and this ambiguity surrounding your sources causes the same issue with each claim
how do you know the faculty saw everything? how do you know the professor didn't try to explain things diplomatically at some point?
you admit you can't because you don't know for sure what sources are telling the truth...

but your best clue would be actually watching the videos showing interactions between the protesting students and the professor


At this point I have to assume TC is straight up trolling. No one is this deliberately fucking stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-5wC5U51jw

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Alucard188
06/04/17 1:59:36 AM
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MyPetKenshin posted...
Also in his email, he said he disapproves of the idea behind the day of absence as a whole, but the faculty attests to him supporting the idea prior to this instance


What the fuck are you even on about? His email explicitly said he supports day of absence, but not this year's iteration.
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HogRiderreturns
06/04/17 2:11:20 AM
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MyPetKenshin posted...
Personally, because of my religious views, I don't salute the flag.

Why would you? You don't salute unless you are in uniform.
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Polycosm
06/04/17 2:23:33 AM
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The faculty letter signed by 71 professors made a promise to capitulate to the student’s list of demands, while blaming Weinstein for endangering students.

Mass delusion. Weinstein must feel like he's living in the Twilight Zone.
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Esrac
06/04/17 2:52:46 AM
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Polycosm posted...
The faculty letter signed by 71 professors made a promise to capitulate to the student’s list of demands, while blaming Weinstein for endangering students.

Mass delusion. Weinstein must feel like he's living in the Twilight Zone.


That's crazy.

I can't help but wonder if they really agree with that or are just doing it to virtue signal out of fear that these progressive bullies will come after them if they side with Weinstein.

It's really pushed me to the Right seeing how big on bullying behavior the Left has gone. Just look at Laci Greene. She was a total progressive feminist type. But because she's recently decided trying to no-platform people on the Right and anti-feminists has been, at best, counterproductive, and has decided maybe it's time to actually start a dialogue, other folks on the Left are calling her a white supremacist, etc.
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Maeiv
06/04/17 2:56:43 AM
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