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Agnostic420 06/04/17 8:34:42 AM #1:	The New Testament God is a pretty nice guy. The Old Testament God tho was kind of a jerk.. legit. <cite>Agnostic420 posted [p:880382019] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote>The New Testament God is a pretty nice guy. The Old Testament God tho was kind of a jerk.. legit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOATSLAYER 06/04/17 8:35:05 AM #2:	They're the same guy --- Hide your kids, hide your goats <cite>GOATSLAYER posted [p:880382031] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote>They're the same guy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Agnostic420 06/04/17 10:58:40 AM #3:	But one is still vastly different compared to the other, although they are indeed the same person. <cite>Agnostic420 posted [p:880386833] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote>But one is still vastly different compared to the other, although they are indeed the same person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 06/04/17 11:05:36 AM #4:	GOATSLAYER posted... They're the same guy But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:880387086] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>They're the same guy</quote> But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smoke_break 06/04/17 11:06:17 AM #5:	the New Testament obviously --- http://i.imgur.com/WTmIPt8.jpg <cite>smoke_break posted [p:880387115] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote>the New Testament obviously</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sada_Pop 06/04/17 11:10:51 AM #6:	People change... Even the creator --- People would have you believe that the accusation of racism is more offensive than ACTUAL racism. <cite>Sada_Pop posted [p:880387300] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote>People change... Even the creator</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOATSLAYER 06/04/17 11:20:04 AM #7:	LightHawKnight posted... GOATSLAYER posted... They're the same guy But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy? Yes --- Hide your kids, hide your goats <cite>GOATSLAYER posted [p:880387654] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>They're the same guy</quote> But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy?</quote> Yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FaultyGourry 06/04/17 11:21:26 AM #8:	Agnostic420 posted... But one is still vastly different compared to the other, although they are indeed the same person. He chilled out considerably after he had a kid. --- You can tell a lot about a man by how he strangles you. "Hypocrisy does not invalidate a point." - S. Rose. https://imgur.com/ZA4vp0y <cite>FaultyGourry posted [p:880387710] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Agnostic420 posted...</cite> <quote>But one is still vastly different compared to the other, although they are indeed the same person.</quote> He chilled out considerably after he had a kid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 06/04/17 11:21:42 AM #9:	GOATSLAYER posted... They're the same guy Depends on who you ask. Gnostics say they are different. The old testament god is the Demiurge who's the child of Sophia and exists outside of the Pleroma. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:880387720] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>They're the same guy</quote> Depends on who you ask. Gnostics say they are different. The old testament god is the Demiurge who's the child of Sophia and exists outside of the Pleroma.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 06/04/17 11:33:04 AM #10:	LightHawKnight posted... GOATSLAYER posted... They're the same guy But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy? I don't think God would be very tolerant in the Old Testament either if his only chosen people at the time all apostatized themselves constantly by marrying pagans that worshiped false gods (and the Israelites in turn worshiped as well) and engaged in heinous things like infant sacrifice as a result. Not to mention that never really quit their tomfoolery until after their return from Babylonian and Assyrian captivity. --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:880388209] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>They're the same guy</quote> But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy?</quote> I don't think God would be very tolerant in the Old Testament either if his only chosen people at the time all apostatized themselves constantly by marrying pagans that worshiped false gods (and the Israelites in turn worshiped as well) and engaged in heinous things like infant sacrifice as a result. Not to mention that never really quit their tomfoolery until after their return from Babylonian and Assyrian captivity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iosifsvoboda 06/04/17 11:33:16 AM #11:	They're the same God, Jesus just washed away humans sins so god wouldn't be mean anymore --- ^_^ <cite>iosifsvoboda posted [p:880388221] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote>They're the same God, Jesus just washed away humans sins so god wouldn't be mean anymore</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QuantumScript 06/04/17 11:39:37 AM #12:	if you actually read the old testament, you'll see that the god presented there is very similar to the god in the new testament. for example, Jeremiah. <cite>QuantumScript posted [p:880388484] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote>if you actually read the old testament, you'll see that the god presented there is very similar to the god in the new testament. for example, Jeremiah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/04/17 11:40:34 AM #13:	Whichever one justifies a given belief. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:880388515] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote>Whichever one justifies a given belief.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 06/04/17 11:54:10 AM #14:	iosifsvoboda posted... They're the same God, Jesus just washed away humans sins so god wouldn't be mean anymore Apparently he's just completely apathetic now. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:880389067] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>iosifsvoboda posted...</cite> <quote>They're the same God, Jesus just washed away humans sins so god wouldn't be mean anymore</quote> Apparently he's just completely apathetic now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 06/04/17 11:57:50 AM #15:	Sada_Pop posted... People change... Even the creator Creator isn't people --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:880389220] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote>People change... Even the creator</quote> Creator isn't people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 06/04/17 12:04:49 PM #16:	E32005 posted... Sada_Pop posted... People change... Even the creator Creator isn't people Shows the ability to change and to feel regret for it's actions though. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:880389517] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote>People change... Even the creator</quote> Creator isn't people</quote> Shows the ability to change and to feel regret for it's actions though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RECON64bit 06/04/17 12:07:04 PM #17:	The bible is nothing compared to the quran in terms of depravity and intolerance. <cite>RECON64bit posted [p:880389601] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote>The bible is nothing compared to the quran in terms of depravity and intolerance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOATSLAYER 06/04/17 1:14:14 PM #18:	E32005 posted... Sada_Pop posted... People change... Even the creator Creator isn't people That's racist --- Hide your kids, hide your goats <cite>GOATSLAYER posted [p:880392907] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote>People change... Even the creator</quote> Creator isn't people</quote> That's racist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forlorn_Ass 06/04/17 1:16:07 PM #19:	Jesus came along and said forget the Old Testament, it's all about the New Testament. --- Her cheeks wobble around like water balloons on a trampoline. <cite>Forlorn_Ass posted [p:880392999] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote>Jesus came along and said forget the Old Testament, it's all about the New Testament.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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super_clout 06/04/17 1:20:27 PM #21:	LightHawKnight posted... GOATSLAYER posted... They're the same guy But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy? they are one in the same. if you know anything you will know that God was never a kill happy punisher. if you read the Bible and do not get your understanding through the Holy Spirit then you may as well try to read a book in another tongue and interpret it on your own. --- FC 1891 1184 7059. IGN. Clout <cite>super_clout posted [p:880393211] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>They're the same guy</quote> But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy?</quote> they are one in the same. if you know anything you will know that God was never a kill happy punisher. if you read the Bible and do not get your understanding through the Holy Spirit then you may as well try to read a book in another tongue and interpret it on your own.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 06/04/17 1:21:39 PM #22:	GOATSLAYER posted... E32005 posted... Sada_Pop posted... People change... Even the creator Creator isn't people That's racist specist --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:880393267] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote>People change... Even the creator</quote> Creator isn't people</quote> That's racist</quote> specist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/04/17 1:26:48 PM #23:	super_clout posted... LightHawKnight posted... GOATSLAYER posted... They're the same guy But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy? they are one in the same. if you know anything you will know that God was never a kill happy punisher. if you read the Bible and do not get your understanding through the Holy Spirit then you may as well try to read a book in another tongue and interpret it on your own. God was a kill happy punisher though, and yes I read the Bible. He's omniscient, knew everything that was going to happen. Every sin that man commits is gods fault. The abrahamic version of "freewill" is a farce as well. It's akin to someone putting a gun to your head and saying "you have a choice". Sure, technically it's a choice, but on ewould hardly call it free will. Now onto the kill happy part. God knew that man was going to sin. He knew that man was going to eat the apple. The whole "test" was pointless, because if he was omnipotent he'd already known what was going to happen. All the tests that he put his followers though (telling Abraham to kill his son for example) wasn't done as a test, because God already knew how that test would have ended. One could only imagine that god was looking forward to killing the Egyptians, or flooding the world, because he knew that was going to happen since the beginning of time. I mean, really you only have two choices here. You either believe that god is Omniscient and all powerful, and is kill happy. Or you believe that god isn't as powerful as you actually thought --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet <cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted [p:880393491] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>super_clout posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>They're the same guy</quote> But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy?</quote> they are one in the same. if you know anything you will know that God was never a kill happy punisher. if you read the Bible and do not get your understanding through the Holy Spirit then you may as well try to read a book in another tongue and interpret it on your own.</quote> God was a kill happy punisher though, and yes I read the Bible. He's omniscient, knew everything that was going to happen. Every sin that man commits is gods fault. The abrahamic version of "freewill" is a farce as well. It's akin to someone putting a gun to your head and saying "you have a choice". Sure, technically it's a choice, but on ewould hardly call it free will. Now onto the kill happy part. God knew that man was going to sin. He knew that man was going to eat the apple. The whole "test" was pointless, because if he was omnipotent he'd already known what was going to happen. All the tests that he put his followers though (telling Abraham to kill his son for example) wasn't done as a test, because God already knew how that test would have ended. One could only imagine that god was looking forward to killing the Egyptians, or flooding the world, because he knew that was going to happen since the beginning of time. I mean, really you only have two choices here. You either believe that god is Omniscient and all powerful, and is kill happy. Or you believe that god isn't as powerful as you actually thought</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EbonTitanium 06/04/17 1:31:48 PM #24:	Sanktu_Vyvorant posted... super_clout posted... LightHawKnight posted... GOATSLAYER posted... They're the same guy But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy? they are one in the same. if you know anything you will know that God was never a kill happy punisher. if you read the Bible and do not get your understanding through the Holy Spirit then you may as well try to read a book in another tongue and interpret it on your own. God was a kill happy punisher though, and yes I read the Bible. He's omnipotent, knew everything that was going to happen. Every sin that man commits is gods fault. The abrahamic version of "freewill" is a farce as well. It's akin to someone putting a gun to your head and saying "you have a choice". Sure, technically it's a choice, but on ewould hardly call it free will. Now onto the kill happy part. God knew that man was going to sin. He knew that man was going to eat the apple. The whole "test" was pointless, because if he was omnipotent he'd already known what was going to happen. All the tests that he put his followers though (telling Abraham to kill his son for example) wasn't done as a test, because God already knew how that test would have ended. One could only imagine that god was looking forward to killing the Egyptians, or flooding the world, because he knew that was going to happen since the beginning of time. I mean, really you only have two choices here. You either believe that god is omnipotent and all powerful, and is kill happy. Or you believe that god isn't as powerful as you actually thought You confused omniscient with omnipotent. --- I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist. <cite>EbonTitanium posted [p:880393719] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...</cite> <quote><cite>super_clout posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>They're the same guy</quote> But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy?</quote> they are one in the same. if you know anything you will know that God was never a kill happy punisher. if you read the Bible and do not get your understanding through the Holy Spirit then you may as well try to read a book in another tongue and interpret it on your own.</quote> God was a kill happy punisher though, and yes I read the Bible. He's omnipotent, knew everything that was going to happen. Every sin that man commits is gods fault. The abrahamic version of "freewill" is a farce as well. It's akin to someone putting a gun to your head and saying "you have a choice". Sure, technically it's a choice, but on ewould hardly call it free will. Now onto the kill happy part. God knew that man was going to sin. He knew that man was going to eat the apple. The whole "test" was pointless, because if he was omnipotent he'd already known what was going to happen. All the tests that he put his followers though (telling Abraham to kill his son for example) wasn't done as a test, because God already knew how that test would have ended. One could only imagine that god was looking forward to killing the Egyptians, or flooding the world, because he knew that was going to happen since the beginning of time. I mean, really you only have two choices here. You either believe that god is omnipotent and all powerful, and is kill happy. Or you believe that god isn't as powerful as you actually thought</quote> You confused omniscient with omnipotent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/04/17 1:34:24 PM #25:	EbonTitanium posted... Sanktu_Vyvorant posted... super_clout posted... LightHawKnight posted... GOATSLAYER posted... They're the same guy But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy? they are one in the same. if you know anything you will know that God was never a kill happy punisher. if you read the Bible and do not get your understanding through the Holy Spirit then you may as well try to read a book in another tongue and interpret it on your own. God was a kill happy punisher though, and yes I read the Bible. He's omnipotent, knew everything that was going to happen. Every sin that man commits is gods fault. The abrahamic version of "freewill" is a farce as well. It's akin to someone putting a gun to your head and saying "you have a choice". Sure, technically it's a choice, but on ewould hardly call it free will. Now onto the kill happy part. God knew that man was going to sin. He knew that man was going to eat the apple. The whole "test" was pointless, because if he was omnipotent he'd already known what was going to happen. All the tests that he put his followers though (telling Abraham to kill his son for example) wasn't done as a test, because God already knew how that test would have ended. One could only imagine that god was looking forward to killing the Egyptians, or flooding the world, because he knew that was going to happen since the beginning of time. I mean, really you only have two choices here. You either believe that god is omnipotent and all powerful, and is kill happy. Or you believe that god isn't as powerful as you actually thought You confused omniscient with omnipotent. Yeah, true. Regardless, one could argue that you can't be omnipotent and Omniscient at the same time anyway --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet <cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted [p:880393853] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>EbonTitanium posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...</cite> <quote><cite>super_clout posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>They're the same guy</quote> But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy?</quote> they are one in the same. if you know anything you will know that God was never a kill happy punisher. if you read the Bible and do not get your understanding through the Holy Spirit then you may as well try to read a book in another tongue and interpret it on your own.</quote> God was a kill happy punisher though, and yes I read the Bible. He's omnipotent, knew everything that was going to happen. Every sin that man commits is gods fault. The abrahamic version of "freewill" is a farce as well. It's akin to someone putting a gun to your head and saying "you have a choice". Sure, technically it's a choice, but on ewould hardly call it free will. Now onto the kill happy part. God knew that man was going to sin. He knew that man was going to eat the apple. The whole "test" was pointless, because if he was omnipotent he'd already known what was going to happen. All the tests that he put his followers though (telling Abraham to kill his son for example) wasn't done as a test, because God already knew how that test would have ended. One could only imagine that god was looking forward to killing the Egyptians, or flooding the world, because he knew that was going to happen since the beginning of time. I mean, really you only have two choices here. You either believe that god is omnipotent and all powerful, and is kill happy. Or you believe that god isn't as powerful as you actually thought</quote> You confused omniscient with omnipotent.</quote> Yeah, true. Regardless, one could argue that you can't be omnipotent and Omniscient at the same time anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/04/17 1:35:11 PM #26:	Hell, one could argue that you can't be omnipotent without being Omniscient as well, as being Omniscient is an aspect of being able to do anything --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet <cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted [p:880393895] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote>Hell, one could argue that you can't be omnipotent without being Omniscient as well, as being Omniscient is an aspect of being able to do anything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
super_clout 06/04/17 1:37:07 PM #27:	Sanktu_Vyvorant posted... super_clout posted... LightHawKnight posted... GOATSLAYER posted... They're the same guy But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy? they are one in the same. if you know anything you will know that God was never a kill happy punisher. if you read the Bible and do not get your understanding through the Holy Spirit then you may as well try to read a book in another tongue and interpret it on your own. God was a kill happy punisher though, and yes I read the Bible. He's omnipotent, knew everything that was going to happen. Every sin that man commits is gods fault. The abrahamic version of "freewill" is a farce as well. It's akin to someone putting a gun to your head and saying "you have a choice". Sure, technically it's a choice, but on ewould hardly call it free will. Now onto the kill happy part. God knew that man was going to sin. He knew that man was going to eat the apple. The whole "test" was pointless, because if he was omnipotent he'd already known what was going to happen. All the tests that he put his followers though (telling Abraham to kill his son for example) wasn't done as a test, because God already knew how that test would have ended. One could only imagine that god was looking forward to killing the Egyptians, or flooding the world, because he knew that was going to happen since the beginning of time. I mean, really you only have two choices here. You either believe that god is omnipotent and all powerful, and is kill happy. Or you believe that god isn't as powerful as you actually thought your rhetoric is pointless, if you do not know the reason God killed what he did during the old testament then there is no reason to further indulge you. once you find out then we can talk, otherwise this conversation won't go anywhere. --- FC 1891 1184 7059. IGN. Clout <cite>super_clout posted [p:880393994] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...</cite> <quote><cite>super_clout posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>They're the same guy</quote> But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy?</quote> they are one in the same. if you know anything you will know that God was never a kill happy punisher. if you read the Bible and do not get your understanding through the Holy Spirit then you may as well try to read a book in another tongue and interpret it on your own.</quote> God was a kill happy punisher though, and yes I read the Bible. He's omnipotent, knew everything that was going to happen. Every sin that man commits is gods fault. The abrahamic version of "freewill" is a farce as well. It's akin to someone putting a gun to your head and saying "you have a choice". Sure, technically it's a choice, but on ewould hardly call it free will. Now onto the kill happy part. God knew that man was going to sin. He knew that man was going to eat the apple. The whole "test" was pointless, because if he was omnipotent he'd already known what was going to happen. All the tests that he put his followers though (telling Abraham to kill his son for example) wasn't done as a test, because God already knew how that test would have ended. One could only imagine that god was looking forward to killing the Egyptians, or flooding the world, because he knew that was going to happen since the beginning of time. I mean, really you only have two choices here. You either believe that god is omnipotent and all powerful, and is kill happy. Or you believe that god isn't as powerful as you actually thought</quote>your rhetoric is pointless, if you do not know the reason God killed what he did during the old testament then there is no reason to further indulge you. once you find out then we can talk, otherwise this conversation won't go anywhere.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/04/17 1:38:06 PM #28:	super_clout posted... Sanktu_Vyvorant posted... super_clout posted... LightHawKnight posted... GOATSLAYER posted... They're the same guy But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy? they are one in the same. if you know anything you will know that God was never a kill happy punisher. if you read the Bible and do not get your understanding through the Holy Spirit then you may as well try to read a book in another tongue and interpret it on your own. God was a kill happy punisher though, and yes I read the Bible. He's omniscient, knew everything that was going to happen. Every sin that man commits is gods fault. The abrahamic version of "freewill" is a farce as well. It's akin to someone putting a gun to your head and saying "you have a choice". Sure, technically it's a choice, but on ewould hardly call it free will. Now onto the kill happy part. God knew that man was going to sin. He knew that man was going to eat the apple. The whole "test" was pointless, because if he was omnipotent he'd already known what was going to happen. All the tests that he put his followers though (telling Abraham to kill his son for example) wasn't done as a test, because God already knew how that test would have ended. One could only imagine that god was looking forward to killing the Egyptians, or flooding the world, because he knew that was going to happen since the beginning of time. I mean, really you only have two choices here. You either believe that god is Omniscient and all powerful, and is kill happy. Or you believe that god isn't as powerful as you actually thought your rhetoric is pointless, if you do not know the reason God killed what he did during the old testament then there is no reason to further indulge you. once you find out then we can talk, otherwise this conversation won't go anywhere. My rhetoric isn't pointless though Either god loves killing, or he isn't omnipotent/Omniscient. Or he's omnipotent and kills just because, in which case, wouldn that make god a psychopath? --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet <cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted [p:880394061] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>super_clout posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...</cite> <quote><cite>super_clout posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>They're the same guy</quote> But one is a kill happy punisher, whilst the other is a forgiving nice guy?</quote> they are one in the same. if you know anything you will know that God was never a kill happy punisher. if you read the Bible and do not get your understanding through the Holy Spirit then you may as well try to read a book in another tongue and interpret it on your own.</quote> God was a kill happy punisher though, and yes I read the Bible. He's omniscient, knew everything that was going to happen. Every sin that man commits is gods fault. The abrahamic version of "freewill" is a farce as well. It's akin to someone putting a gun to your head and saying "you have a choice". Sure, technically it's a choice, but on ewould hardly call it free will. Now onto the kill happy part. God knew that man was going to sin. He knew that man was going to eat the apple. The whole "test" was pointless, because if he was omnipotent he'd already known what was going to happen. All the tests that he put his followers though (telling Abraham to kill his son for example) wasn't done as a test, because God already knew how that test would have ended. One could only imagine that god was looking forward to killing the Egyptians, or flooding the world, because he knew that was going to happen since the beginning of time. I mean, really you only have two choices here. You either believe that god is Omniscient and all powerful, and is kill happy. Or you believe that god isn't as powerful as you actually thought</quote>your rhetoric is pointless, if you do not know the reason God killed what he did during the old testament then there is no reason to further indulge you. once you find out then we can talk, otherwise this conversation won't go anywhere.</quote> My rhetoric isn't pointless though Either god loves killing, or he isn't omnipotent/Omniscient. Or he's omnipotent and kills just because, in which case, wouldn that make god a psychopath?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 06/04/17 2:11:11 PM #29:	Sanktu_Vyvorant posted... He's omniscient, knew everything that was going to happen. Every sin that man commits is gods fault. The abrahamic version of "freewill" is a farce as well. It's akin to someone putting a gun to your head and saying "you have a choice". Sure, technically it's a choice, but on ewould hardly call it free will. Now onto the kill happy part. God knew that man was going to sin. He knew that man was going to eat the apple. The whole "test" was pointless, because if he was omnipotent he'd already known what was going to happen. All the tests that he put his followers though (telling Abraham to kill his son for example) wasn't done as a test, because God already knew how that test would have ended. One could only imagine that god was looking forward to killing the Egyptians, or flooding the world, because he knew that was going to happen since the beginning of time. That's false. He actually regretted his actions after the flood and at the time of creation did not posses the ability to see the future. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:880395792] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...</cite> <quote>He's omniscient, knew everything that was going to happen. Every sin that man commits is gods fault. The abrahamic version of "freewill" is a farce as well. It's akin to someone putting a gun to your head and saying "you have a choice". Sure, technically it's a choice, but on ewould hardly call it free will. Now onto the kill happy part. God knew that man was going to sin. He knew that man was going to eat the apple. The whole "test" was pointless, because if he was omnipotent he'd already known what was going to happen. All the tests that he put his followers though (telling Abraham to kill his son for example) wasn't done as a test, because God already knew how that test would have ended. One could only imagine that god was looking forward to killing the Egyptians, or flooding the world, because he knew that was going to happen since the beginning of time. </quote> That's false. He actually regretted his actions after the flood and at the time of creation did not posses the ability to see the future.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iosifsvoboda 06/04/17 2:15:10 PM #30:	Literally trying to apply our trash logic and our trash understanding of our logic to a being that supposedly created logic Also the story of Adam and Eve actually makes sense if you read as a metaphor for the evolution of animalistic proto-humans into the moralistic humans of today --- ^_^ <cite>iosifsvoboda posted [p:880395972] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote>Literally trying to apply our trash logic and our trash understanding of our logic to a being that supposedly created logic Also the story of Adam and Eve actually makes sense if you read as a metaphor for the evolution of animalistic proto-humans into the moralistic humans of today</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CW_McGraw 06/04/17 2:27:40 PM #31:	I'm Catholic and we pray to Magog. --- http://i.imgur.com/hso8CUi.gif <cite>CW_McGraw posted [p:880396623] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote>I'm Catholic and we pray to Magog.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 06/04/17 2:30:23 PM #32:	God changed his ways of dealing with humans during the New Testament... that is why it's the New Testament and not just all one Testament Jesus is the literal incarnation of that --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:880396764] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote>God changed his ways of dealing with humans during the New Testament... that is why it's the New Testament and not just all one Testament Jesus is the literal incarnation of that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
infinitydev2020 06/04/17 2:30:40 PM #33:	uwnim posted... Sanktu_Vyvorant posted... He's omniscient, knew everything that was going to happen. Every sin that man commits is gods fault. The abrahamic version of "freewill" is a farce as well. It's akin to someone putting a gun to your head and saying "you have a choice". Sure, technically it's a choice, but on ewould hardly call it free will. Now onto the kill happy part. God knew that man was going to sin. He knew that man was going to eat the apple. The whole "test" was pointless, because if he was omnipotent he'd already known what was going to happen. All the tests that he put his followers though (telling Abraham to kill his son for example) wasn't done as a test, because God already knew how that test would have ended. One could only imagine that god was looking forward to killing the Egyptians, or flooding the world, because he knew that was going to happen since the beginning of time. That's false. He actually regretted his actions after the flood and at the time of creation did not posses the ability to see the future. Wait so God can level up? --- "If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe." -Carl Sagan <cite>infinitydev2020 posted [p:880396783] in Which God ... [t:75420082]...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...</cite> <quote>He's omniscient, knew everything that was going to happen. Every sin that man commits is gods fault. The abrahamic version of "freewill" is a farce as well. It's akin to someone putting a gun to your head and saying "you have a choice". Sure, technically it's a choice, but on ewould hardly call it free will. Now onto the kill happy part. God knew that man was going to sin. He knew that man was going to eat the apple. The whole "test" was pointless, because if he was omnipotent he'd already known what was going to happen. All the tests that he put his followers though (telling Abraham to kill his son for example) wasn't done as a test, because God already knew how that test would have ended. One could only imagine that god was looking forward to killing the Egyptians, or flooding the world, because he knew that was going to happen since the beginning of time. </quote> That's false. He actually regretted his actions after the flood and at the time of creation did not posses the ability to see the future.</quote> Wait so God can level up?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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