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Jeff Zero 06/05/17 11:34:26 AM #1: |
Throwing together a few snippets into one quote. Full read is more detailed.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/saddam-hussein-bonded-american-soldiers-final-days-article-1.3217517 Disturbingly, the crew known as “The Super Twelve” apparently bonded with Hussein, too — right to his bitter end. --- Intel Ops 1964 Kennedy | Die Hard Drive with a Vengeance | 54x Carthaginian Corsair Privateer | Guardian Force Bahamut ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff Zero 06/05/17 11:36:41 AM #2: |
http://www.npr.org/2017/06/05/531536419/the-prisoner-in-his-palace
Here's the NPR link to the audio interview. Again, I urge folks to at least read the full article, because I had to pick and choose which snippets to represent. (Unsurprisingly, as is often the case with content I post here, I found the info via NeoGAF originally.) Anyway, I'll preempt any weird remarks here by noting that I think Hussein played them like fiddles, of course. There's a part in there about a guy thinking he'd have had their backs if they were attacked -- that they'd be safe with him. It's amazing how charismatic he could be. --- Intel Ops 1964 Kennedy | Die Hard Drive with a Vengeance | 54x Carthaginian Corsair Privateer | Guardian Force Bahamut ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vlado 06/05/17 11:39:22 AM #3: |
It's almost like leaders who stand against globalism are human instead of the monsters the bought media portray them as.
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Terastodon 06/05/17 11:40:30 AM #4: |
Vlado posted...
It's almost like leaders who stand against globalism are human instead of the monsters the bought media portray them as. Do you dispute that he killed thousands of Iraqis? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vlado 06/05/17 11:50:39 AM #5: |
Bush killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Your point?
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DoomTheGyarados 06/05/17 11:52:12 AM #6: |
VLADO makes a fair point. His slant is silly but often the monsters of the world - especially world leaders - are still human in some ways. It is just easier to think of their every action as evil so we don't think about human nature as much.
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SeabassDebeste 06/05/17 11:58:23 AM #7: |
this is really interesting stuff, thanks for sharing. i appreciate the humanity shown by the soldiers here, even if the guy that they're bonding with doesn't deserve their affection.
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Jeff Zero 06/05/17 11:59:14 AM #8: |
SeabassDebeste posted...
this is really interesting stuff, thanks for sharing. i appreciate the humanity shown by the soldiers here, even if the guy that they're bonding with doesn't deserve their affection. Happy to share, yeah. I felt similarly. --- Intel Ops 1964 Kennedy | Die Hard Drive with a Vengeance | 54x Carthaginian Corsair Privateer | Guardian Force Bahamut ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Terastodon 06/05/17 12:20:02 PM #9: |
Vlado posted...
Bush killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Your point? Yes, George Bush is a warmongering cretin who held a strong position on the world stage. I don't see what that has to do with Saddam Hussein. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CaptainOfCrush 06/05/17 12:49:31 PM #10: |
There are still Iraqis loyal to Saddam Hussein. I can feel traces of fealty to him within my own family. We are Christian Iraqi, and Hussein was like, almost unbelievably kind to Christians during his rule.
But anyway, I'm not surprised to hear this. You put anyone in a cell and they become just another human being. If you're watching over them, forming a bond is almost inevitable. Language gap aside, I'm sure Hussein told them some crazy stories. --- BKSheikah:The Real Deal http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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velocycloraptor 06/05/17 1:00:10 PM #11: |
Good read. And the difference between saddam and Bush is that even this article merely portrays Saddam as human and shows soldiers had empathy towards him. It maintains he is bad. Our press makes excuses, legitimizes, apologizes and forgives Bush.
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JetJaguar 06/05/17 1:28:23 PM #12: |
Stockholm Syndrome perhaps.
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JetJaguar 06/05/17 1:29:00 PM #13: |
velocycloraptor posted...
Good read. And the difference between saddam and Bush is that even this article merely portrays Saddam as human and shows soldiers had empathy towards him. It maintains he is bad. Our press makes excuses, legitimizes, apologizes and forgives Bush. oh god --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JetJaguar 06/05/17 1:29:52 PM #14: |
Terastodon posted...
Vlado posted...Bush killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Your point? lol i can't believe people can be so dense --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 06/05/17 1:33:26 PM #15: |
this isn't too surprising. Saddam, and any other major dictator for that matter, don't just get there out of muscle and intelligence. charisma is a huge role and Saddam had that in spades.
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scarletspeed7 06/05/17 1:53:39 PM #16: |
Kind of an interesting and sad story. These guys probably feel like their entire motivation for entering the armed forces is on shaky ground in a lot of respects. Makes you wonder how you'd feel in the same situation.
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AdmiralZephyr 06/05/17 2:16:50 PM #17: |
DoomTheGyarados posted...
VLADO makes a fair point. His slant is silly but often the monsters of the world - especially world leaders - are still human in some ways. It is just easier to think of their every action as evil so we don't think about human nature as much. Yeah these are my thoughts as well. --- darkx remembers his friend, GrapefruitKing. RIP :( Games beaten in 2017: 8 (Most recent - Uncharted 4: A Thief's End) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjbasis 06/05/17 2:34:45 PM #18: |
I had a dream I was Saddam Hussein about to be executed around the time it happened.
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