Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 104: I Plead Hypothetical Future Executive Privilege

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Jakyl25
06/15/17 4:08:30 PM
#202:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Couldn't Sessions just order a Special Counsel to investigate Hillary's potential Obstruction?

That's totally within his power, right?

Don, you control the people who do the investigations

I'm pretty certain Trump is actually not allowed to direct Sessions to investigate anyone


Right, that was made clear after he threatened to do it at the second debate I think?

Still, the only thing between him and this Clinton investigation he so desperately wants is the will of Jeff Sessions.
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The Mana Sword
06/15/17 4:09:40 PM
#203:


maybe trump already asked sessions to investigate hillary, but sessions didn't recall the meeting they had
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Jakyl25
06/15/17 4:10:09 PM
#204:


It comes across like he believes that if the liberal media talk about it enough, it just manifests, and it's their fault Hillary gets away clean
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SovietOmega
06/15/17 4:12:23 PM
#205:


Jakyl25 posted...
It comes across like he believes that if the liberal media talk about it enough, it just manifests, and it's their fault Hillary gets away clean

This would be consistent with how he handles other important issues like inauguration crowd size.
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red sox 777
06/15/17 4:12:31 PM
#206:


I guess the odds are not bad on a Hillary Clinton trial at this point. They'll have to find a way to set the trial in a deep red state to get a jury more likely to convict.
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Kenri
06/15/17 4:14:58 PM
#207:


Trump doesn't actually give a shit about Hillary, he's just trying to drum up support for himself. You know, just like during his campaign.
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red sox 777
06/15/17 4:18:08 PM
#208:


Exactly, hence the need for a full blown trial. Although, it's probably a bad strategy. If Hillary goes on trial It's only fair that someone else goes on trial too, right?
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Jakyl25
06/15/17 4:19:49 PM
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LordoftheMorons
06/15/17 4:22:47 PM
#210:


Periodic reminder: every single crisis Trump has faced so far is entirely of his own making
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Jakyl25
06/15/17 4:25:12 PM
#211:


Also I think Trump just confirmed that the Mueller investigation was expanding into Obstruction of Justice.

Up until now that had just been "sources close to the investigation tell WaPo..."
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SovietOmega
06/15/17 4:29:39 PM
#212:


Jakyl25 posted...
Also I think Trump just confirmed that the Mueller investigation was expanding into Obstruction of Justice.

Up until now that had just been "sources close to the investigation tell WaPo..."

I am so reminded of a Yes, Prime Minister bit regarding sources, but there it was about using 'sources close to...' as a way out of the issue they had. We have a leader more inept than a prime minister in a comedy show. How.
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Jakyl25
06/15/17 4:35:51 PM
#213:


Has anyone in the history of Earth acted more guilty about a crime he may not have actually committed than Trump?
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Regaro
06/15/17 4:38:07 PM
#214:


Well that depends on what the definition of "is" is, obviously



Just kidding
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red sox 777
06/15/17 4:40:19 PM
#215:


I will say, Bill Clinton was absolutely right about the definition of "is."
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Jakyl25
06/15/17 4:41:13 PM
#216:


Trump could do himself and (especially) Sessions a HUGE favor, if he openly declared executive privilege on those conversations Sessions refused to discuss in front of Congress on the basis of [TOPIC TITLE].

Right? Or am I missing something?
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KamikazePotato
06/15/17 4:41:21 PM
#217:


Jakyl25 posted...
Also, god, you know that his initial draft of that first tweet said "dealings" instead of "non-dealings" and someone caught it in time.

L m a o
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Kenri
06/15/17 4:41:36 PM
#218:


red sox 777 posted...
Exactly, hence the need for a full blown trial. Although, it's probably a bad strategy. If Hillary goes on trial It's only fair that someone else goes on trial too, right?

A full blown trial would be the worst possible move. First, for the reason you said. Second, there's no case, so Trump would look incompetent to even his supporters for failing to secure a sentence somehow. Third, even if she somehow was found guilty, that destroys Trump's ability to build support by deflecting to Hillary. Fourth, the Trumps and the Clintons are family friends, so he has no interest in seeing her go to jail (or be punished in any way whatsoever) -- them rich folk gotta stick together.

All a full blown trial gets him is a momentary distraction, and it wouldn't even be very good at doing that.
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Jakyl25
06/15/17 5:20:12 PM
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LordoftheMorons
06/15/17 5:25:07 PM
#220:


Speaking of which, Kosowitz is being hit with ethics complaints over that very dubious "advice": http://www.newyorklawjournal.com/id=1202790055192/Kasowitz-Hit-With-Ethics-Complaints-in-NY-DC-Over-White-House-Advice?cmp=share_twitter&slreturn=20170515164523
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FFDragon
06/15/17 7:23:50 PM
#221:


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/15/533043576/putin-offers-political-asylum-to-james-comey-citing-potential-prosecution-in-u-s

Like him or not, the man is a near unrivaled troll.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/15/17 7:27:10 PM
#222:


FFDragon posted...
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/15/533043576/putin-offers-political-asylum-to-james-comey-citing-potential-prosecution-in-u-s

Like him or not, the man is a near unrivaled troll.


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Jakyl25
06/15/17 8:09:44 PM
#223:


https://twitter.com/cnbcnow/status/875494323269369856

Mueller's pursuing Kushner.

Don't walk with Trump in front of any moving buses, kid.
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KamikazePotato
06/15/17 8:11:09 PM
#224:


Eventually the list of people Mueller is investigating will be longer than the list of people he's not. Poor guy has his work cut out for him!
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LordoftheMorons
06/15/17 8:13:11 PM
#225:


"It really pains me to do this Jared... I always did love you the most"
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Jakyl25
06/15/17 8:18:57 PM
#226:


https://twitter.com/realalexjones/status/875503529355595776

Alex Jones set Megyn Kelly up and secretly recorded her the entire time she was at InfoWars studio for the interview she's set to air on Sunday.


This is hilarious,
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FFDragon
06/15/17 8:20:29 PM
#227:


what did she expect, really
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Jakyl25
06/15/17 8:22:41 PM
#228:


He said he's never set anyone up like this in 22 years!!
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FFDragon
06/15/17 8:23:51 PM
#229:


he forgot his kids because he had a big bowl of chili

i don't trust his memory
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Jakyl25
06/15/17 8:25:19 PM
#230:


It's such a weird thing too from an outsider perspective

I appreciate what Kelly is attempting to do: expose Alex Jones to the general public so that he can't grow beyond his lunatic fringe.

But this was probably one of the dumber ways to accomplish that.
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Jakyl25
06/15/17 8:31:33 PM
#231:


Hey you remember that Russia sanction bill that is so unifying that it passed 97-2?

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/875495915297099776

Maybe not unifying enough for Paul Ryan!
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LordoftheMorons
06/15/17 8:33:37 PM
#232:


Jakyl25 posted...
Hey you remember that Russia sanction bill that is so unifying that it passed 97-2?

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/875495915297099776

Maybe not unifying enough for Paul Ryan!

No one has ever wanted anything as badly as Paul Ryan wants those tax cuts
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Eddv
06/15/17 8:37:09 PM
#233:


Jakyl25 posted...
Trump could do himself and (especially) Sessions a HUGE favor, if he openly declared executive privilege on those conversations Sessions refused to discuss in front of Congress on the basis of [TOPIC TITLE].

Right? Or am I missing something?


If executive privilege is claimed it can be challenged in court and have to confide the conversations in sealed testimony. If you truly believed in leakers being ever present and out to get you then you might avoid going through this process.
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neonreaper
06/15/17 8:42:59 PM
#234:


Jakyl25 posted...
Even staying strict literalist here, you could probably make a case that bombs are not "arms." You don't say you're personally armed with a nuke if you have one.


How so?
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Jakyl25
06/15/17 8:47:07 PM
#235:


Eddv posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Trump could do himself and (especially) Sessions a HUGE favor, if he openly declared executive privilege on those conversations Sessions refused to discuss in front of Congress on the basis of [TOPIC TITLE].

Right? Or am I missing something?


If executive privilege is claimed it can be challenged in court and have to confide the conversations in sealed testimony. If you truly believed in leakers being ever present and out to get you then you might avoid going through this process.


But then you shouldn't be able to use it as a reason not to give testimony, right?
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Eddv
06/15/17 8:47:59 PM
#236:


Well yes that's why its so silly.
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Jakyl25
06/15/17 8:48:14 PM
#237:


neonreaper posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Even staying strict literalist here, you could probably make a case that bombs are not "arms." You don't say you're personally armed with a nuke if you have one.


How so?


Because you don't weaponize it with your own person. It's a remote device.

Unless we are talking nuclear bazookas or something
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Jakyl25
06/15/17 8:50:41 PM
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FFDragon
06/15/17 8:50:55 PM
#239:


Jakyl25 posted...
Unless we are talking nuclear bazookas or something


http://disgustingmen.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/nuke.gif
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Kenri
06/15/17 9:21:37 PM
#240:


Jakyl25 posted...
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There is no word in any language for the emotion this provoked in me.
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HaRRicH
06/15/17 9:22:37 PM
#241:


Jakyl25 posted...
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BowserCuffs
06/15/17 9:37:20 PM
#242:


Jakyl25 posted...
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This one is pretty infamous among furries, if I recall correctly.

Not nearly as infamous as the hitler fox "furry raider" nowadays, but still.
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HaRRicH
06/16/17 12:13:10 AM
#243:


https://twitter.com/fergnerduson/status/875179140588220416

A twitter play in two acts https://t.co/VPuwnU6t6I
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Paratroopa1
06/16/17 12:15:57 AM
#244:


HaRRicH posted...
https://twitter.com/fergnerduson/status/875179140588220416

A twitter play in two acts https://t.co/VPuwnU6t6I

To be 100% actually real and fair here, these two tweets are not contradictory, if that's the implication - he probably would not have gone into the room where he's being treated anyway, isn't he still in critical condition?
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TheRock1525
06/16/17 12:18:36 AM
#245:


Paratroopa1 posted...
HaRRicH posted...
https://twitter.com/fergnerduson/status/875179140588220416

A twitter play in two acts https://t.co/VPuwnU6t6I

To be 100% actually real and fair here, these two tweets are not contradictory, if that's the implication - he probably would not have gone into the room where he's being treated anyway, isn't he still in critical condition?


I was thinking the same thing. Kind of a dick thing but he's not lying about anything in the tweet.
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SupremeZero
06/16/17 12:24:22 AM
#246:


You realize you're nitpicking about whether or not he's literally lying, as opposed to the intent?
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Jakyl25
06/16/17 12:41:02 AM
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Jakyl25
06/16/17 12:44:50 AM
#248:


TheRock1525 posted...
Paratroopa1 posted...
HaRRicH posted...
https://twitter.com/fergnerduson/status/875179140588220416

A twitter play in two acts https://t.co/VPuwnU6t6I

To be 100% actually real and fair here, these two tweets are not contradictory, if that's the implication - he probably would not have gone into the room where he's being treated anyway, isn't he still in critical condition?


I was thinking the same thing. Kind of a dick thing but he's not lying about anything in the tweet.


Trump may not have lied, but Spicer, that's another story

https://twitter.com/westwingreport/status/875175471482380288
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Jakyl25
06/16/17 12:50:34 AM
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SupremeZero
06/16/17 12:53:03 AM
#250:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/reaganbattalion/status/875519727447281665

The leaks keep coming!

Milo: Longwinded ego-stroking while simultaneously begging for an interview.
Wright: "No"

Fantastic
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Paratroopa1
06/16/17 4:25:42 AM
#251:


Jakyl25 posted...
Trump may not have lied, but Spicer, that's another story

https://twitter.com/westwingreport/status/875175471482380288

Now thaaaaaat's different.
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