Board 8 > A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 6 - Better To Mock The Game Than To Play And Lose

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Shaduln
06/15/17 8:00:03 PM
#401:


Leo3L posted...
You're right, it's time for you to ride on your claim.

Literally just chilling around for about and hour to post this, for the record.
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bng_mmmk
06/15/17 8:00:06 PM
#402:


Shad you're going to claim and then we're going to lynch you make your time
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dowolf
06/15/17 8:01:09 PM
#403:


Shaduln posted...
bng_mmmk posted...
didn't consider the other possibility which is death is scum who was blocked by a town blocker

I would think town blocker would've said something by now to confirm him, right?

all that would accomplish would be the outing of the town blocker, tbqh.

unless you genuinely think I'm scum, in which case I raise one eyebrow at you.

(the other eyebrow I am saving for a special occasion)
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DoomTheGyarados
06/15/17 8:01:44 PM
#404:


Shaduln posted...
bng_mmmk posted...
didn't consider the other possibility which is death is scum who was blocked by a town blocker

I would think town blocker would've said something by now to confirm him, right?


What a weird thing to say
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Leo3L
06/15/17 8:01:57 PM
#405:


If your strategy is to try to deflect onto me, good luck.
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dowolf
06/15/17 8:02:13 PM
#406:


Shaduln posted...
Leo3L posted...
You're right, it's time for you to ride on your claim.

Literally just chilling around for about and hour to post this, for the record.

I mean, if Leo is in fact at an MtG tournament -- and I have little reason to doubt that -- Leo popping up and posting every hour or so checks out~
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Shaduln
06/15/17 8:03:55 PM
#407:


dowolf posted...
Shaduln posted...
Leo3L posted...
You're right, it's time for you to ride on your claim.

Literally just chilling around for about and hour to post this, for the record.

I mean, if Leo is in fact at an MtG tournament -- and I have little reason to doubt that -- Leo popping up and posting every hour or so checks out~

Just the timing was very interesting.
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Leo3L
06/15/17 8:04:39 PM
#408:


I'm here until deadline, and FFD is too as far as I know, for the record.

Grand Prix: Vegas is prettyyyy crazy for the record
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dowolf
06/15/17 8:05:18 PM
#409:


I, meanwihle, am off to the races.

see y'all at 9 or so.
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DoomTheGyarados
06/15/17 8:07:34 PM
#410:


Leo3L posted...
I'm here until deadline, and FFD is too as far as I know, for the record.

Grand Prix: Vegas is prettyyyy crazy for the record


I am highly interested to know what made FFD conjure up a me/red/boko team.
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bng_mmmk
06/15/17 8:10:02 PM
#411:


man I feel like the day got really exciting while I was busy and now right when I return after mad shad votes he shows up and is just like "hey guys" and now the game is going to be idle again. people not voting shad, play better! and by better I mean more to my liking.

maybe I need to leave again
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Shaduln
06/15/17 8:12:26 PM
#412:


I mean, I'm voting death who I think is a good lynch and I've been trying to be more involved, what more do you want from me?
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DoomTheGyarados
06/15/17 8:12:41 PM
#413:


So you don't buy his claim?
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Shaduln
06/15/17 8:14:18 PM
#414:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
So you don't buy his claim?

Not really.
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bng_mmmk
06/15/17 8:14:49 PM
#415:


htaeD posted...
on the other hand, if I was straight up roleblocked, and a townvig shot Stan instead of a scumrole, then that'd mean scum left Stan totally alone for the night
which is unthinkable
thats where my suspicion of Chris stemmed from


If you're town and were roleblocked as you say then either Chris is scum who claimed Vig or chris is town Vig who doubled up scum's shot on stan which got redirected from me

I really doubt a scum team did nothing to stan

conveniently for us scum claiming vig doesn't tend to live for long
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Shaduln
06/15/17 8:15:00 PM
#416:


Shaduln posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
So you don't buy his claim?

Not really.

To expand, it seems way too convenient that he was blocked N1. Who blocks death N1?
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Leo3L
06/15/17 8:15:58 PM
#417:


To the point where you'd think a scum Death would just make up an action, which would be supremely easy to do
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DoomTheGyarados
06/15/17 8:16:28 PM
#418:


##unvote:
##vote: shad


Yeah going to protect my boy Death here from this.
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Nanahara715
06/15/17 8:17:11 PM
#419:


bng_mmmk posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
So in your mind[s], flavor cop fits in with ninja cop and backup/masonizer?


I mean it's feasible yeah. a mason recruiter who only gets dead people doesn't really do a lot in terms of confirmation other than soft-confirm itself.

about death

if town:
-unless a town blocker blocked death, that means either (chris is scum) or (scum ignored chris) or I guess (dowolf was untargetable)

if scum:
-probably they didn't block anyone last night


assuming a scum block goes out every N1 is bad so in that regard, I don't guess the claim really exonerates death and the reactions probably are worth looking into as you say. it could be a ploy to either put a wedge between himself and scum buddy chris or if chris is town, maybe more so in hopes of outing additional town power.

what were people's cases against death aside from chris's?


It doesnt bother you that if we had lynched a vanilla last night that Leo's claim means he would have potentially become ninja cop AND gotten the results of an N1 scan?
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Vengeful_KBM
06/15/17 8:18:05 PM
#420:


##Unvote
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Leo3L
06/15/17 8:19:05 PM
#421:


I was really hoping that would happen honestly
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Shaduln
06/15/17 8:19:20 PM
#422:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
unvote:
vote: shad


Yeah going to protect my boy Death here from this.

From what, me explaining my vote?
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DoomTheGyarados
06/15/17 8:20:24 PM
#423:


Yes, I don't like your vote and you haven't really done much to impress me so...!
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bng_mmmk
06/15/17 8:21:32 PM
#424:


Nanahara715 posted...
It doesnt bother you that if we had lynched a vanilla last night that Leo's claim means he would have potentially become ninja cop AND gotten the results of an N1 scan?


not at this point given what relatively little I know of the game. No idea what all scum has power-wise or numbers-wise and there could still be anti-town roles too. As has been mentioned the ninja part of cop might only serve to give town a chance to shoot itself in the foot
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bng_mmmk
06/15/17 8:22:59 PM
#425:


for the record I feel like Leo was notably inactive and possibly even lazy when he was some town confirmable role in mercs 4 mafia. Didn't read that close though
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Leo3L
06/15/17 8:23:37 PM
#426:


I kind of crushed that game despite saying I was lazy in my defense
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HanOfTheNekos
06/15/17 8:23:55 PM
#427:


##unvote:

Scum Thief doesn't sound too out of place if the vanillas are turning out to be mostly nobodies.

Shaduln posted...
I mean, I'm voting death who I think is a good lynch and I've been trying to be more involved, what more do you want from me?


Probably explaining votes better and giving opinions of more than... 2 people?
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DoomTheGyarados
06/15/17 8:24:50 PM
#428:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
##unvote:

Scum Thief doesn't sound too out of place if the vanillas are turning out to be mostly nobodies.

Shaduln posted...
I mean, I'm voting death who I think is a good lynch and I've been trying to be more involved, what more do you want from me?


Probably explaining votes better and giving opinions of more than... 2 people?


Why did you unvote if you think scum thief makes sense?
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HanOfTheNekos
06/15/17 8:27:59 PM
#429:


Do I really need to repeat myself again?
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bng_mmmk
06/15/17 8:28:28 PM
#430:


dowolf posted...
I cannot fault a Shad lynch.

I do feel really good about VI, though. He never did answer why he slowclaimed as vanilla.


I'm pretty much right here except change the phrasing for Shad and VI
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DoomTheGyarados
06/15/17 8:28:55 PM
#431:


This time yes because I was eating dinner for awhile and may have missed some posts between driving, eating, and driving again.
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Jeff Zero
06/15/17 8:29:15 PM
#432:


I'm finally here and I have a metric ton to catch up on.
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bng_mmmk
06/15/17 8:29:42 PM
#433:


wait so was the character VI claimed not important? I thought based on context that it was. if it's a clear nobody that makes the way he played it even weirder.
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DoomTheGyarados
06/15/17 8:30:52 PM
#434:


bng_mmmk posted...
wait so was the character VI claimed not important? I thought based on context that it was. if it's a clear nobody that makes the way he played it even weirder.


Very important.
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VeryInsane
06/15/17 8:30:56 PM
#435:


dowolf posted...
I cannot fault a Shad lynch.

I do feel really good about VI, though. He never did answer why he slowclaimed as vanilla.


...except I did?

VeryInsane posted...
I wanted to play off the name but given I'm probably staying on the table regardless it's whatever

Also did you just claim vanilla


>_>
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Shaduln
06/15/17 8:31:36 PM
#436:


OK, I need to make dinner so I'll go ahead and get this out there:

Brynden Tully, TOWN Roleblocker.

Stuff about not wanting give Riverrun to the Freys and stopping them until I no longer draw breathe. Also, Blackfish.

I tried to block Puns last night but was redirected to Stan
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DoomTheGyarados
06/15/17 8:32:13 PM
#437:


Shaduln posted...
OK, I need to make dinner so I'll go ahead and get this out there:

Brynden Tully, TOWN Roleblocker.

Stuff about not wanting give Riverrun to the Freys and stopping them until I no longer draw breathe. Also, Blackfish.

I tried to block Puns last night but was redirected to Stan


*spit take*
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DoomTheGyarados
06/15/17 8:34:01 PM
#438:


Several things about that make sense.

##unvote: Shaduln

Which means scum blocked Death which means the bus driver is scum who probably double tapped Stan with me.

Right? That... makes sense.
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Leo3L
06/15/17 8:34:16 PM
#439:


Huh. Now things are interesting.
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Vengeful_KBM
06/15/17 8:34:17 PM
#440:


And caught up again.

##Vote: Shad

He seems to be trying to slip through here by being super dismissive about everything while providing a bare minimum of content and answers. Content like

Shaduln posted...
bng_mmmk posted...
I understand the idea why people would want my flip in theory but I'd much rather hit a scum to get the ball rolling because things could get ugly fast if we mislynch today with the current player list

Ugh ugh guys see this?


has particularly jumped out at me as just being a super lazy one-liner that isn't insightful or helpful. And the fact that his only response to whether or not he buys death's claim is "not really" - Shad didn't do anything before this topic to make me feel one way or another about him, and that in itself is a red flag. The clipped dismissiveness of all of his posts in this topic, however, is making me feel more comfortable with him as a lynch target.

Also telling is that he's a lot of people's second scum option which could denote either scum who are currently voting him to look good, or scum that want an excuse to be voting for someone else.
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Vengeful_KBM
06/15/17 8:34:58 PM
#441:


Of course I got that post ninja'd entirely with a claim. >_<
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DoomTheGyarados
06/15/17 8:35:45 PM
#442:


That checks out with him being on puns all day, and Scare's death is a bit less weird.
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Leo3L
06/15/17 8:36:54 PM
#443:


So either Shad is the mafia roleblocker who intended to roleblock Stan, who accidentally died, which also means poor things for Death as well

Or I don't know, a series of massive coincidences have led us to this point
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Vengeful_KBM
06/15/17 8:37:04 PM
#444:


##Unvote
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Leo3L
06/15/17 8:37:33 PM
#445:


Wait, nevrmind
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HanOfTheNekos
06/15/17 8:37:37 PM
#446:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
This time yes because I was eating dinner for awhile and may have missed some posts between driving, eating, and driving again.


Power claims sort themselves out.

If Death is Scum then they have to maintain the facade of role blocking him or actually give away scan info (if he is Scum Thief, the info is still info they have to give Town).

If he's Town, Scum have to role block him or let him loose.

Either way, it directs a roleblocker or gives Town scans. Or lying is revealed.

Can't comment on Shad now, but I still trust him.
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DoomTheGyarados
06/15/17 8:37:52 PM
#447:


Leo3L posted...
So either Shad is the mafia roleblocker who intended to roleblock Stan, who accidentally died, which also means poor things for Death as well

Or I don't know, a series of massive coincidences have led us to this point


No, he said he did target Stan, Leo.
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Vengeful_KBM
06/15/17 8:38:04 PM
#448:


I'm going to have to go back and comb through the claimed/implied actions here because there's been a lot of content and it's not coming immediately to mind. That seems like it might actually track surprisingly well with what happened, though.

Then again Leo also has a point in that mafia roleblockers are a thing.
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Leo3L
06/15/17 8:38:51 PM
#449:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Leo3L posted...
So either Shad is the mafia roleblocker who intended to roleblock Stan, who accidentally died, which also means poor things for Death as well

Or I don't know, a series of massive coincidences have led us to this point


No, he said he did target Stan, Leo.


Intended to target him, so targeted Puns on purpose

Scum bus driver seems likely no matter what
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Vengeful_KBM
06/15/17 8:39:06 PM
#450:


Sooo what's the biggest argument against going back to dowolf? >_>
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