Current Events > What if we replace most of the career politicians with field experts?

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darkbuster 06/22/17 9:56:20 AM #1:	For example, have economic policy be developed by credible economists, technology be regulated by the engineers & programmers that know how it works, environmental policy formed by those who actually study the various aspects of our atmosphere, oceans, & landscape? Would we be better off or would people reject the presence of charismatic figureheads, as these "eggheads" keep presenting their figures & graphs over inspirational words of pathos? --- Remember kids, it's only an RPG until someone gets hit with a meteor; Then it's a JRPG! SSBB: 3869 0521 7142 <cite>darkbuster posted [p:881595173] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote>For example, have economic policy be developed by credible economists, technology be regulated by the engineers & programmers that know how it works, environmental policy formed by those who actually study the various aspects of our atmosphere, oceans, & landscape? Would we be better off or would people reject the presence of charismatic figureheads, as these "eggheads" keep presenting their figures & graphs over inspirational words of pathos?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 06/22/17 9:58:53 AM #2:	A good idea in theory, but would those people make good leaders? --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:881595287] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote>A good idea in theory, but would those people make good leaders?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/22/17 10:00:01 AM #3:	darkbuster posted... credible economists Economics isn't a science, economists are just partisan mouthpieces like politicians. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:881595329] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkbuster posted...</cite> <quote>credible economists</quote> Economics isn't a science, economists are just partisan mouthpieces like politicians.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkbuster 06/22/17 10:01:35 AM #4:	eston posted... A good idea in theory, but would those people make good leaders? How many career politicians are truly effective leaders, over simply being very personable? --- Remember kids, it's only an RPG until someone gets hit with a meteor; Then it's a JRPG! SSBB: 3869 0521 7142 <cite>darkbuster posted [p:881595393] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>A good idea in theory, but would those people make good leaders?</quote> How many career politicians are truly effective leaders, over simply being very personable?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 06/22/17 10:01:41 AM #5:	we would have real progress and growth --- "Conservatives are Nazi's." - scoobydoobydont "I just looked and amazon.com doesnt sell sex" - Complete_Idi0t <cite>Clad posted [p:881595398] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote>we would have real progress and growth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 06/22/17 10:05:19 AM #6:	darkbuster posted... eston posted... A good idea in theory, but would those people make good leaders? How many career politicians are truly effective leaders, over simply being very personable? Good point --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:881595550] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkbuster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>A good idea in theory, but would those people make good leaders?</quote> How many career politicians are truly effective leaders, over simply being very personable?</quote> Good point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 06/22/17 10:46:47 AM #7:	We could have this and should have this, but it would unemploy a lot of very well-paid (and very useless) politicians who happen to wield tremendous power and influence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_movement --- "Conservatives are Nazi's." - scoobydoobydont "I just looked and amazon.com doesnt sell sex" - Complete_Idi0t <cite>Clad posted [p:881597491] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote>We could have this and should have this, but it would unemploy a lot of very well-paid (and very useless) politicians who happen to wield tremendous power and influence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_movement</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 06/22/17 10:49:54 AM #9:	I dunno, isn't that basically what the administrative state is composed of? and people hate bureaucrats --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881597635] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote>I dunno, isn't that basically what the administrative state is composed of? and people hate bureaucrats</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 06/22/17 10:53:48 AM #11:	Asherlee10 posted... Would that be people like DeVos? The people under her that aren't appointed are who I'm referring to; DeVos and other cabinet level appointments are more political. But the civil service itself is staffed by experts in various fields. --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881597823] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Would that be people like DeVos?</quote> The people under her that aren't appointed are who I'm referring to; DeVos and other cabinet level appointments are more political. But the civil service itself is staffed by experts in various fields.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 06/22/17 10:58:35 AM #12:	Isn't that what they do in China? I believe a lot of the top officials are engineers or scientists with notable track records. --- imgtc.com/i/4HgTl0ebzq.jpg imgtc.com/i/60CWP2Gtlg.gif <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:881598069] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote>Isn't that what they do in China? I believe a lot of the top officials are engineers or scientists with notable track records.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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weapon_d00d816 06/22/17 11:00:44 AM #14:	We already have the experts informing them in our current system. The same problem of lobbying would still run just as strong in this one. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:881598201] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote>We already have the experts informing them in our current system. The same problem of lobbying would still run just as strong in this one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/22/17 11:01:33 AM #15:	Who decides what expertise is relevant or necessary? --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:881598245] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote>Who decides what expertise is relevant or necessary?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 06/22/17 2:19:16 PM #16:	Antifar posted... Who decides what expertise is relevant or necessary? Here comes Antifar with an attempt to deflect, all because he's majoring in some useless bullshit like gender studies or sociology and wants to be relevant. Sorry kid, but it's the engineers and scientists who produce innovations and better products/services that are the expertise that is relevant and necessary. --- "Conservatives are Nazi's." - scoobydoobydont "I just looked and amazon.com doesnt sell sex" - Complete_Idi0t <cite>Clad posted [p:881609395] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Who decides what expertise is relevant or necessary?</quote> Here comes Antifar with an attempt to deflect, all because he's majoring in some useless bullshit like gender studies or sociology and wants to be relevant. Sorry kid, but it's the engineers and scientists who produce innovations and better products/services that are the expertise that is relevant and necessary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/22/17 2:25:47 PM #17:	Clad posted... Here comes Antifar with an attempt to deflect, all because he's majoring in some useless bullshit like gender studies or sociology and wants to be relevant. 1) I've mentioned what my degree is in before; it wasn't gender studies. I remember you reacting to this fact! Don't just fucking lie about me. 2) My point was more that there are disagreements about what a government should prioritize and be knowledgeable about, to say nothing of differences among the "experts." Republicans wouldn't be happy with a government full of climate scientists or Umass Amherst economists. A group of healthcare experts from the Heritage Foundation wouldn't satisfy most Democrats. --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:881609805] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>Here comes Antifar with an attempt to deflect, all because he's majoring in some useless bullshit like gender studies or sociology and wants to be relevant. </quote> 1) I've mentioned what my degree is in before; it wasn't gender studies. I remember you reacting to this fact! Don't just fucking lie about me. 2) My point was more that there are disagreements about what a government should prioritize and be knowledgeable about, to say nothing of differences among the "experts." Republicans wouldn't be happy with a government full of climate scientists or Umass Amherst economists. A group of healthcare experts from the Heritage Foundation wouldn't satisfy most Democrats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xelltrix 06/22/17 2:26:59 PM #18:	Career politicians are lame af anyway. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea <cite>Xelltrix posted [p:881609888] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote>Career politicians are lame af anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 06/22/17 2:28:36 PM #19:	Antifar posted... 1) I've mentioned what my degree is in before; it wasn't gender studies. I remember you reacting to this fact! Don't just f**ing lie about me. Oh wait I think I remember that you said it was journalism or something? Yeah I take that back if that's the case. Antifar posted... 2) My point was more that there are disagreements about what a government should prioritize and be knowledgeable about, to say nothing of differences among the "experts." Republicans wouldn't be happy with a government full of climate scientists or Umass Amherst economists. A group of healthcare experts from the Heritage Foundation wouldn't satisfy most Democrats. If we had a technocracy we wouldn't have Democrats and Republicans anymore. Just the people who are accomplished scientists and technologists and engineers, and they'd focus exclusively on things pertaining to science/technology/engineering. --- "Conservatives are* Nazi's." - scoobydoobydont "I just looked and amazon.com doesnt sell sex" - Complete_Idi0t <cite>Clad posted [p:881609980] in What if we... [t:75489285]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>1) I've mentioned what my degree is in before; it wasn't gender studies. I remember you reacting to this fact! Don't just f***ing lie about me. </quote> Oh wait I think I remember that you said it was journalism or something? Yeah I take that back if that's the case. <cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>2) My point was more that there are disagreements about what a government should prioritize and be knowledgeable about, to say nothing of differences among the "experts." Republicans wouldn't be happy with a government full of climate scientists or Umass Amherst economists. A group of healthcare experts from the Heritage Foundation wouldn't satisfy most Democrats.</quote> If we had a technocracy we wouldn't have Democrats and Republicans anymore. Just the people who are accomplished scientists and technologists and engineers, and they'd focus exclusively on things pertaining to science/technology/engineering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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