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itachi15243
06/23/17 4:53:59 PM
#53:


Kineth posted...
deanshow posted...
creativerealms posted...
That third cop should be in trouble not matter what as the other two cops did their job right, and had the situation handled and he not knowing what was going on shot the man anyway. Even when dealing with a criminal that's not how you do things.

This third cop should be fired for being a chicken shit


Yeah, he should be barred from law enforcement for awhile and/or only be allowed to work a desk job there.


Seriously?

He should be fired and never allowed to be an officer again. The only reason he likely won't face criminal charges is because the other officers would attack the officer who got shot for breaking that blue line
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Kineth
06/23/17 4:58:51 PM
#54:


I figure that's the only compromise that could be reached with rabid police defenders that would actually result in some action. Besides, he didn't actually kill anyone compared to the litany of ones that have killed someone and received no punishment and were allowed to keep their jobs.
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gatorsPENSbucs
06/23/17 5:27:44 PM
#55:


CruelBuffalo posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
So stupid we have to use color of people's skin to make people care. Cop kills off duty cop would get no attention. But throw white and black in there and everyone all of a sudden cares. What a world.

Glad you're prioritizing the real outrage, not the actual shooting, but the mentioning of race.

The very first fuckin word of the title is the dudes skin color.

And don't even pretend like you'd care if it was "cop kills another cop."
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TheVipaGTS
06/23/17 5:32:02 PM
#56:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
So stupid we have to use color of people's skin to make people care. Cop kills off duty cop would get no attention. But throw white and black in there and everyone all of a sudden cares. What a world.

Glad you're prioritizing the real outrage, not the actual shooting, but the mentioning of race.

The very first fuckin word of the title is the dudes skin color.

And don't even pretend like you'd care if it was "cop kills another cop."

Actually I would care. My reaction would be he same if no races were mentioned. The thing is, as I said earlier, you can't instantly say that race no longer plays any role in situations like this. You can't ignore that preconceived stereotypical ideas about certain races can determine how people interact with each other. It's the sad truth. IF that was the case here it's even worse because a cop shouldn't act on those thoughts. If it didn't happen here then we still have an issue of idiocy. But stop trying to immediately remove any possibility of race being a factor. It doesn't have to be filled with hate for that race. Stereotypes in certain situations can be just as damaging.
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BigSLM1993
06/23/17 6:00:21 PM
#57:


Lordy I would hope there is some footage of this. I don't see how after being cleared by the first 2 cops, the third one had enough reason to shoot >_>
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RickyTheBAWSE
06/23/17 6:15:49 PM
#58:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
So stupid we have to use color of people's skin to make people care. Cop kills off duty cop would get no attention. But throw white and black in there and everyone all of a sudden cares. What a world.

Glad you're prioritizing the real outrage, not the actual shooting, but the mentioning of race.

The very first fuckin word of the title is the dudes skin color.

And don't even pretend like you'd care if it was "cop kills another cop."


what an asinine presumption. you had time to reconsider posting, but you submitted anyway.

probably just the tip of the iceberg to your real feelings, lol.
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Ammonitida
06/23/17 6:33:00 PM
#59:


Was the off-duty cop in uniform? No.

Are we getting the whole story from "raw story"? Of course not.
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cjsdowg
06/23/17 6:36:19 PM
#60:


Ammonitida posted...
Was the off-duty cop in uniform? No.

Are we getting the whole story from "raw story"? Of course not.


Does that matter?
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Kineth
06/23/17 6:37:21 PM
#61:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
what an asinine presumption. you had time to reconsider posting, but you submitted anyway.

probably just the tip of the iceberg to your real feelings, lol.


https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75492398/881658883

Kineth posted...
gatorspensbucs has spent his entire gamefaqs career doubting stuff like this involving black people.

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TheVipaGTS
06/23/17 6:47:11 PM
#62:


Who cares if he was in uniform or not? A regular citizen wouldn't be in uniform either. If I complied and a cop told me to get up, and in doing so I get shot because some chicken shit viewed me standing up as a threat...that wouldn't be ok either. The whole story? Do you think the off duty cop pointed a gun at the cop who shot him? Do you think the off duty cop made a threatening move? Maybe he just had a gun on him. In which case this is America where people want MORE guns. He is allowed to have one is he not? If he even had one on him I highly doubt he pointed it at anything. The third cop just saw movement and instantly shot like a punk. That shit isn't ok. Ever.
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Rexdragon125
06/23/17 6:49:42 PM
#63:


Yeah panic firing at the very thought of danger isn't proper behavior for people with gun training, or normal people for that matter.
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The Great Muta 22
06/23/17 6:54:26 PM
#64:


Ammonitida posted...
Was the off-duty cop in uniform? No.

Are we getting the whole story from "raw story"? Of course not.


Ahh, nice when the pieces of shit here reveal themselves
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gatorsPENSbucs
06/23/17 7:00:09 PM
#65:


Kineth posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
what an asinine presumption. you had time to reconsider posting, but you submitted anyway.

probably just the tip of the iceberg to your real feelings, lol.


https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75492398/881658883

Kineth posted...
gatorspensbucs has spent his entire gamefaqs career doubting stuff like this involving black people.

Whoa. Go outside, man, and enjoy life.
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TheoryzC
06/23/17 7:02:21 PM
#66:


Jesus fucking christ
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Ammonitida
06/23/17 7:08:32 PM
#67:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Was the off-duty cop in uniform? No.

Are we getting the whole story from "raw story"? Of course not.


Ahh, nice when the pieces of shit here reveal themselves


Not condoning the shooting, troll. But challenging the insinuation that he was shot because he was black.
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alexander37
06/23/17 7:12:52 PM
#68:


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-st-louis-police-officer-shoots-off-duty-black-officer/

There's another link for those who are criticizing the source the TC used. He had his weapon but the other 2 cops clearly had control of the situation and had already recognized him by the time the 3rd cop showed up and shot him. He had 11 years on the force and the cop who shot him had over 8 years. It's freaking ridiculous......
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MotaroRIP619
06/23/17 7:15:43 PM
#70:


eston posted...
Wow that's ridiculous
I don't even care that guy is a cop, he was literally outside his own home and complied with all lawful orders


This is exactly how I feel

VandorLee posted...
Its like the cops are blatantly racists through their own actions yet people are still defending them. Somehow.


Not all cops are like that. It's not fair or right to make statements like that. Not all incidents where black people get shot are racist either. This one is and is very fucked up though
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Medz2017
06/23/17 7:15:52 PM
#71:


I wonder if BLM will celebrate this. He is a officer yet he is also black.
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Ammonitida
06/23/17 7:17:59 PM
#72:


alexander37 posted...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-st-louis-police-officer-shoots-off-duty-black-officer/

There's another link for those who are criticizing the source the TC used. He had his weapon but the other 2 cops clearly had control of the situation and had already recognized him by the time the 3rd cop showed up and shot him. He had 11 years on the force and the cop who shot him had over 8 years. It's freaking ridiculous......


Another article with a racist headline.

According to the police statement, the armed suspects then fled on foot. Meanwhile, an off-duty officer who lived near where the crash occurred came outside with his department issued firearm after hearing the commotion.


In other words, they were chasing armed suspects, and this guy comes out with his gun. He is ordered to walk toward them when a third officer (the white supremacist) rushes on the scene to see a uninformed man with a gun approaching the officers and shoots. Yeah, that's totally because of racism.
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cjsdowg
06/23/17 7:20:29 PM
#73:


Ammonitida posted...


In other words, they were chasing armed suspects, and this guy comes out with his gun. He is ordered to walk toward them when a third officer (the white supremacist) rushes on the scene to see a uninformed man with a gun approaching the officers and shoots. Yeah, that's totally because of racism.


So when police under cover and they shot innocent people then , do you blame the police since those people could not known for sure that the cop was legit .
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Ammonitida
06/23/17 7:22:13 PM
#74:


cjsdowg posted...
Ammonitida posted...


In other words, they were chasing armed suspects, and this guy comes out with his gun. He is ordered to walk toward them when a third officer (the white supremacist) rushes on the scene to see a uninformed man with a gun approaching the officers and shoots. Yeah, that's totally because of racism.


So when police under cover and they shot innocent people then , do you blame the police since those people could not known for sure that the cop was legit .


....I'm just glad you agree that racism was not at play here, but don't let that stop the left-wing media from running racially inflammatory headlines.
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yemmy
06/23/17 7:46:28 PM
#75:


I guess everyone on CE was there that night and saw everything that went down.
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yemmy
06/23/17 7:50:06 PM
#76:


Medz2017 posted...
I wonder if BLM will celebrate this. He is a officer yet he is also black.


Black officer shot the guy in Charlotte. Didn't stop people from looting/destroying shit.
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cjsdowg
06/23/17 7:50:08 PM
#77:


yemmy posted...
I guess everyone on CE was there that night and saw everything that went down.


The police defending them have already changed their story , but who cares when cops lie about shooting people am i right.
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YookaLaylee
06/23/17 7:53:31 PM
#78:


This is the plot of one of the episodes of Brooklyn nine nine
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gatorsPENSbucs
06/23/17 7:56:01 PM
#79:


yemmy posted...
I guess everyone on CE was there that night and saw everything that went down.

Well duh, are you new here? Somehow all of these people are in every state and every country at all times.
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TheVipaGTS
06/23/17 7:59:07 PM
#80:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
yemmy posted...
I guess everyone on CE was there that night and saw everything that went down.

Well duh, are you new here? Somehow all of these people are in every state and every country at all times.

So why do you think he was scared? Do you really believe another cop pointed a weapon at him or made a threatening move that caused him to fear for his life? Do you think simply seeing a weapon gives him the right to shoot someone?
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yemmy
06/23/17 8:11:33 PM
#81:


cjsdowg posted...
yemmy posted...
I guess everyone on CE was there that night and saw everything that went down.


The police defending them have already changed their story , but who cares when cops lie about shooting people am i right.


So you were there that night? So you know what really happened?

gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Well duh, are you new here? Somehow all of these people are in every state and every country at all times.


Not new just pointing out the obvious and having the people who do nothing but cry on CE all day quote me and tell me how wrong I am, because how naive of me to think otherwise
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cjsdowg
06/23/17 8:15:34 PM
#82:


yemmy posted...


So you were there that night? So you know what really happened?


Well since the people who were their are LYING I don't see the point of your question. Once more why do you support police who lie about shooting black people.
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Crazyman93
06/23/17 8:15:51 PM
#83:


The first two cops did the right thing, if you just trust someone is a cop because they say they are everyone would do it.

The third officer is a moron and a lousy shot.
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Zikten
06/23/17 8:17:14 PM
#84:


Pretty stupid
And this isn't the first time cops have had a situation under control and then a new one shows up and screws everything up.
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Crazyman93
06/23/17 8:18:29 PM
#85:


Zikten posted...
Pretty stupid
And this isn't the first time cops have had a situation under control and then a new one shows up and screws everything up.

Yeah, if he rolled up, and saw two other officers having no issues, what the fuck was he afraid of? I repeat, moron. Throw him off the force and charge his dumb ass.
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Sphyx
06/23/17 8:36:19 PM
#87:


The term "urine-soaked coward" comes to mind.
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Disrespector
06/23/17 9:07:21 PM
#88:


law and order
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yemmy
06/23/17 9:25:45 PM
#89:


cjsdowg posted...
Well since the people who were their are LYING I don't see the point of your question. Once more why do you support police who lie about shooting black people.


not supporting this

saying to wait for all of the facts to come out. I bet you've jumped to conclusions a few times before facts were presented and been dead wrong plenty of times.

the funny thing is that this wouldn't even be big news (actually it probably isn't big news, it is CE race baiting) because he only got hit once in the arm, but it happened at one of those times where everyone is calling for a cop's head. but if it was a white cop (which is a admittedly less likely, but I bet I can find a similar instance of it happening somewhere to a white cop) there would be people actually happy about this. TAKE THAT YOU WHITE COP!!!
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cjsdowg
06/23/17 9:44:32 PM
#90:


yemmy posted...

not supporting this

saying to wait for all of the facts to come out. I bet you've jumped to conclusions a few times before facts were presented and been dead wrong plenty of times.

the funny thing is that this wouldn't even be big news (actually it probably isn't big news, it is CE race baiting) because he only got hit once in the arm, but it happened at one of those times where everyone is calling for a cop's head. but if it was a white cop (which is a admittedly less likely, but I bet I can find a similar instance of it happening somewhere to a white cop) there would be people actually happy about this. TAKE THAT YOU WHITE COP!!!


There will always be happy when people get killed or hurt, that is the sick world that we live in. Some people felt where happy that Philando Castile was killed. You can't escape being being happy for people facing bad things.
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gatorsPENSbucs
06/23/17 9:50:52 PM
#91:


yemmy posted...
Not new just pointing out the obvious and having the people who do nothing but cry on CE all day quote me and tell me how wrong I am, because how naive of me to think otherwise

Whoa whoa, im on your side.
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B8ter
06/23/17 9:56:26 PM
#92:


The uniformed cop was completely in the wrong and apologists still grasp for ways to defend him. Pathetic.
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TheVipaGTS
06/23/17 10:02:06 PM
#93:


I wouldn't be happy if the cop who got shot was white. This is the type of bull shit I want to stop regardless of race. I just also understand that even if someone isn't racist, race and stereotypes about that race can affect how an individual approaches a situation. They may not intend malicious intent but it can happen. Immediately dismissing that notion is foolish.

It is possible that stereotypes he holds about black People caused him to be a little more tense about the situation and it led to this. Do I know that? No of course not. But it is a possibility. It's welcome in the discussion and you're free to counter that point.
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GiftedACIII
06/23/17 10:35:15 PM
#94:


wtf
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omega cookie
06/23/17 10:44:40 PM
#95:


DeroIin posted...
That was when a third officer entered the scene, and because he did not recognize the black off-duty cop and claimed to “fear for his safety,” shot the off-duty cop in the arm.

Yeah, there are some details missing here. Gonna go ahead and reserve judgement until all the facts are in.
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brandunh11
06/23/17 10:48:48 PM
#96:


omega cookie posted...
DeroIin posted...
That was when a third officer entered the scene, and because he did not recognize the black off-duty cop and claimed to “fear for his safety,” shot the off-duty cop in the arm.

Yeah, there are some details missing here. Gonna go ahead and reserve judgement until all the facts are in.


....Do you think that the black officer, who had been 100% compliant up until that point, suddenly got belligerent or something? What could he have possibly done to have justified shooting him, yet the other two officers did not feel threatened at all? This cop is an idiot and is not fit for police duty.
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Ving_Rhames
06/23/17 10:56:00 PM
#97:


KiwiTerraRizing posted...
The right is so confused on this one. A cop shot a black guy but the black guy was a cop.


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omega cookie
06/23/17 10:59:06 PM
#98:


brandunh11 posted...
omega cookie posted...
DeroIin posted...
That was when a third officer entered the scene, and because he did not recognize the black off-duty cop and claimed to “fear for his safety,” shot the off-duty cop in the arm.

Yeah, there are some details missing here. Gonna go ahead and reserve judgement until all the facts are in.


....Do you think that the black officer, who had been 100% compliant up until that point, suddenly got belligerent or something? What could he have possibly done to have justified shooting him, yet the other two officers did not feel threatened at all? This cop is an idiot and is not fit for police duty.

I have no idea. I find it unlikely that the black guy did something menacing, but I also find it unlikely that the white guy thought "OH NO, THE DARKNESS!", shit himself, and started popping off.

The point is, I don't know. Which means it isn't worth getting upset over until I do.
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cjsdowg
06/23/17 11:01:23 PM
#99:


omega cookie posted...
brandunh11 posted...
omega cookie posted...
DeroIin posted...
That was when a third officer entered the scene, and because he did not recognize the black off-duty cop and claimed to “fear for his safety,” shot the off-duty cop in the arm.

Yeah, there are some details missing here. Gonna go ahead and reserve judgement until all the facts are in.


....Do you think that the black officer, who had been 100% compliant up until that point, suddenly got belligerent or something? What could he have possibly done to have justified shooting him, yet the other two officers did not feel threatened at all? This cop is an idiot and is not fit for police duty.

I have no idea. I find it unlikely that the black guy did something menacing, but I also find it unlikely that the white guy thought "OH NO, THE DARKNESS!", shit himself, and started popping off.

The point is, I don't know. Which means it isn't worth getting upset over until I do.



You heard it here first a cop was shot and you don't think we should get upset.
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yemmy
06/23/17 11:10:00 PM
#100:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
yemmy posted...
Not new just pointing out the obvious and having the people who do nothing but cry on CE all day quote me and tell me how wrong I am, because how naive of me to think otherwise

Whoa whoa, im on your side.


wasn't directed at you
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Jerry_Hellyeah
06/23/17 11:13:53 PM
#101:


I lost my job teaching for calling a guy Pedro when his name is Pablo.

We have NO standards set for our idiot law enforcement.
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cjsdowg
06/23/17 11:17:12 PM
#102:


Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
I lost my job teaching for calling a guy Pedro when his name is Pablo.

We have NO standards set for our idiot law enforcement.


Wow that is crazy.
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Northlane
06/23/17 11:22:54 PM
#103:


"I feared for my life" = License to kill

Fuck the popo
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