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DH19CM
06/25/17 3:01:32 AM
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http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/820913/James-Bond-007-gay-Sir-Ian-McKellen-Daniel-Craig-Pierce-Brosnan

The MI6 agent has always been a notorious womaniser, but what if producers rebooted him as a gay man?

The change is something Sir Ian would like to see, having highlighted the lack of gay character representation in major Hollywood movies and franchises.

Speaking with Variety he said: “I do have an idea. I think Ian Fleming, who wrote the original [James Bond] books, knew all about [it]. I’m not sure subsequent actors have quite understood the joke, which is the same as Superman.

“James Bond is a wimp! He’s a silly Englishman that wants his martinis stirred.”


What do you think? Will the next Bond be:
Black?
Homosexual?
Transgendered?
Female?
Muslim?
All of the above?

Interesting though about the lack of gay/x character representation. Why not make some new ones then? Whats with the current obsession of changing existing ones?
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TheFireRises
06/25/17 3:02:17 AM
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Will the next Bond be triggered like you are, TC.
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Butterfiles
06/25/17 3:02:35 AM
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next james bond should go by 'jim'
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iron jojo
06/25/17 3:03:00 AM
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The thing about having a formula that works is
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MakoReizei
06/25/17 3:03:28 AM
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didn't know Gandalf was such an SJW
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Terra-enforcer
06/25/17 3:03:28 AM
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MabusIncarnate
06/25/17 3:03:49 AM
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Make it a black lesbian and call her Jane Snowflake, agent that offends no one and the movie can be fucking atrocious but entirely PC.
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Freddie_Mercury
06/25/17 3:03:53 AM
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weapon_d00d816
06/25/17 3:04:18 AM
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He just wants the role
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StickFigures720
06/25/17 2:29:49 PM
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Couldn't get anymore forced than this. What's up with this trend of upstaging heterosexuals?
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Eat More Beef
06/25/17 2:32:29 PM
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I personally don't see the problem with having James Bond be any race/creed/sexual orientation.

Maybe they need a spy to uncover a homosexual ring of diamond smugglers. You wouldn't send a straight dude in to do the job.

What about in an Islamic state? ThinK a white person would make as much progress as a Muslim person?

Should still be a dude though, cause his code name is "James Bond."
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DoctorVader
06/25/17 2:33:54 PM
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Lee Byung-hun
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TomNook20
06/25/17 2:36:28 PM
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Sativa_Rose
06/25/17 2:37:12 PM
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I don't think they should make him gay for the sake of having more gay characters in movies. The original character James Bond that Ian Fleming created was straight. I don't see a reason to change that. Someone can make a different movie with a gay manizer (male version of womanizer? lol) as the main character.
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Schwarber
06/25/17 2:38:21 PM
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Sure, who cares. Those are the worst parts about the 007 movies anyways.
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Skye Reynolds
06/25/17 2:39:15 PM
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McKeller, shut the fuck up.
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Sativa_Rose
06/25/17 2:39:55 PM
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Schwarber posted...
Sure, who cares. Those are the worst parts about the 007 movies anyways.


Something kind of small that has annoyed me about recent 007 movies is the incredibly irrealistic sounds of the guns. They are so freaking quiet! They have gunshots as like soft tapping sounds.

You know a movie that has great sounding gunshots? Heat.
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Schwarber
06/25/17 2:40:56 PM
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I just rewatched Heat yesterday actually and I completely agree. Great movie.
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Skye Reynolds
06/25/17 2:42:13 PM
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Magneto has taken repeated digs at the best fictional hero his country has ever come up with. This is just an attempt by him to ruffle some feathers. It has nothing to do with social justice, progress, or a new direction for the character. It's just some old guy trolling people because he dislikes the character for whatever reason.
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s0nicfan
06/25/17 2:42:26 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
I don't think they should make him gay for the sake of having more gay characters in movies. The original character James Bond that Ian Fleming created was straight. I don't see a reason to change that. Someone can make a different movie with a gay manizer (male version of womanizer? lol) as the main character.


It's easier and cheaper to just steal a character and rewrite it for an agenda than actually write a compelling new character that people like. Plus if it sells well you can use it as a springboard for claiming there's mass market appeal for it and you can make more of it.
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Cookie Bag
06/25/17 2:42:43 PM
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Oh geez... TC is back?
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xBloodBrotherx
06/25/17 2:44:22 PM
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Nah they should just make new characters that happen to also be gay instead of shoehorning it in to an existing character or making some character that has no identity outside of being gay
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prince_leo
06/25/17 2:47:26 PM
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I think it makes sense for Bond to be willing to seduce a man, and have sex with him, if the mission required it
that's not the same as actually being gay though
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voldothegr8
06/25/17 2:47:35 PM
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I don't care what color the skin is as long as 007 remains a male, keeps bagging hot ass women, and has a British accent.

But damn if some people aren't hellbent on appeasing SJWs.
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EyeWontBeFooled
06/25/17 2:50:07 PM
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In the next James Bond movie, find him behind enemy lines...
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Skye Reynolds
06/25/17 2:51:15 PM
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Honestly, I wouldn't mind if they made the next M gay or lesbian. The Man With the Golden Gun (novel) even hinted at M being unsure of his own sexuality.

The novels and some of the earlier films had some pretty negative images of gay and lesbian characters. Wint and Kidd were prissy stereotypes. Rosa Klebb made unwanted advances toward Domino. Pussy Galore was a lesbian who got "converted" to heterosexuality when Bond... well, forced himself on her.


I know I'm talking about characters from 40 or 50 years ago, but it wouldn't hurt for the 007 series to include more positive LGBT characters in its newer films. Allegedly, Madonna's character in Die Another Day was supposed to have been a lesbian, but no mention of it was made in the movie.

But Bond? Don't invert a central aspect of the character like that. I'm not even fine with him being bisexual. If Spider-Man gets a boyfriend, that's cool. James Bond should be exclusively heterosexual because being a skirt chaser has always been a major part of who he is.
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Butterfiles
06/25/17 2:52:10 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...

But Bond? Don't invert a central aspect of the character like that. I'm not even fine with him being bisexual. If Spider-Man gets a boyfriend, that's cool. James Bond should be exclusively heterosexual because being a skirt chaser has always been a major part of who he is

this tbh
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voldothegr8
06/25/17 2:52:58 PM
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It's a shame we'll never have a Bond like this again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcNGYRKBfHA

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s0nicfan
06/25/17 2:54:37 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...

But Bond? Don't invert a central aspect of the character like that. I'm not even fine with him being bisexual. If Spider-Man gets a boyfriend, that's cool. James Bond should be exclusively heterosexual because being a skirt chaser has always been a major part of who he is.


But being attracted to women is a heteronormative tool of the patriarchy and dehumanizes women. The only way to fight this oppression is to take the character from your oppressors and use them as a megaphone for your agenda. Disagree? Why, are you a bigot?
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glitteringfairy
06/25/17 2:56:47 PM
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I would not watch it tbh
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omega cookie
06/25/17 3:02:15 PM
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How about instead of ruining classic characters, gay people create their own character? Or are they just unable to do that? If the only way they can come up with to make a strong, gay hero is to shoehorn that fact into a beloved character, you don't deserve a strong, gay hero to begin with.
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StickFigures720
06/25/17 3:07:14 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...

But Bond? Don't invert a central aspect of the character like that. I'm not even fine with him being bisexual. If Spider-Man gets a boyfriend, that's cool. James Bond should be exclusively heterosexual because being a skirt chaser has always been a major part of who he is.


But being attracted to women is a heteronormative tool of the patriarchy and dehumanizes women. The only way to fight this oppression is to take the character from your oppressors and use them as a megaphone for your agenda. Disagree? Why, are you a bigot?

Hilarious and original.
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s0nicfan
06/25/17 3:12:31 PM
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StickFigures720 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...

But Bond? Don't invert a central aspect of the character like that. I'm not even fine with him being bisexual. If Spider-Man gets a boyfriend, that's cool. James Bond should be exclusively heterosexual because being a skirt chaser has always been a major part of who he is.


But being attracted to women is a heteronormative tool of the patriarchy and dehumanizes women. The only way to fight this oppression is to take the character from your oppressors and use them as a megaphone for your agenda. Disagree? Why, are you a bigot?

Hilarious and original.


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Southernfatman
06/25/17 3:12:43 PM
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Leave things alone. Bond being a misogynist womanizer is part of his character. Stop screwing with original characters. You can have a gay 00 agent or other kind of Bond ally, but leave JB alone.



Sativa_Rose posted...

Something kind of small that has annoyed me about recent 007 movies is the incredibly irrealistic sounds of the guns. They are so freaking quiet! They have gunshots as like soft tapping sounds.

You know a movie that has great sounding gunshots? Heat.


This bugs me too. It happens in a lot of modern movies and games. Heat left in the original gun shot sounds coming from the guns themselves and that's why it sounds awesome. I wish other movies would do that.
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omega cookie
06/25/17 3:17:50 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
Heat left in the original gun shot sounds coming from the guns themselves and that's why it sounds awesome. I wish other movies would do that.

I think they've phased out firing blanks in favor of CGI and piston manipulated props. Too many accidents.
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dirtycommunist
06/25/17 3:28:58 PM
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All of the above plz
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StickFigures720
06/25/17 3:30:17 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
StickFigures720 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...

But Bond? Don't invert a central aspect of the character like that. I'm not even fine with him being bisexual. If Spider-Man gets a boyfriend, that's cool. James Bond should be exclusively heterosexual because being a skirt chaser has always been a major part of who he is.


But being attracted to women is a heteronormative tool of the patriarchy and dehumanizes women. The only way to fight this oppression is to take the character from your oppressors and use them as a megaphone for your agenda. Disagree? Why, are you a bigot?

Hilarious and original.


Gogv9Jt

Out of all things you could be on the internet, you decide to act out the tired-out SJW stereotype. You tried sparking a flame war and failed.
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s0nicfan
06/25/17 3:41:04 PM
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StickFigures720 posted...

Out of all things you could be on the internet, you decide to act out the tired-out SJW stereotype. You tried sparking a flame war and failed.


The worst thing you can do to an ideology is point out the absurdity of it. If we're at the point where the general consensus to the "SJW stereotype" is "wow, this is insane" then there's no need for a flame war. That doesn't mean we can't keep poking fun at it, since that stereotype still exists and is occasionally taken seriously (See: "My Sex Junk" on Bill Nye's newest show)
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StickFigures720
06/25/17 3:56:09 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
StickFigures720 posted...

Out of all things you could be on the internet, you decide to act out the tired-out SJW stereotype. You tried sparking a flame war and failed.


The worst thing you can do to an ideology is point out the absurdity of it. If we're at the point where the general consensus to the "SJW stereotype" is "wow, this is insane" then there's no need for a flame war. That doesn't mean we can't keep poking fun at it, since that stereotype still exists and is occasionally taken seriously (See: "My Sex Junk" on Bill Nye's newest show)

I'm more used to things such as rant videos criticising such ideologies. Acting them out in a comments section or a forum thread kind of got old on me fast.
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YUNASBFGIR
06/25/17 4:02:00 PM
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A gay bond wouldn't be that different at all. You'd just have Bond treating men like he treats women now. If that makes you uncomfortable... then you should think about why that is and if a woman feels the same way you do now about the current Bond?
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
06/25/17 4:02:54 PM
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While they're at it they might as well make bond and America Trans black woman who's bisexual. Movies gonna flop big either way might as well fuck up big.
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Sad_Face
06/25/17 4:14:07 PM
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StickFigures720 posted...
I'm more used to things such as rant videos criticising such ideologies. Acting them out in a comments section or a forum thread kind of got old on me fast.


Sonic's writing style in that post is pretty much the norm for sarcasm posts. But I suppose he could stand to mark the end with "/sarcasm" for you blokes with rusted and battered sarcasm detectors.
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RE_expert44
06/25/17 4:16:31 PM
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The names Bond. Gaymes Bond
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ollie89
06/25/17 4:17:15 PM
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YUNASBFGIR posted...
A gay bond wouldn't be that different at all. You'd just have Bond treating men like he treats women now. If that makes you uncomfortable... then you should think about why that is and if a woman feels the same way you do now about the current Bond?

Pretty much this. .
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faizan_faizan
06/25/17 4:17:33 PM
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No. Why?
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06/25/17 4:20:43 PM
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Romulox28
06/25/17 4:22:07 PM
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RE_expert44 posted...
The names Bond. Gaymes Bond

nice
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knutjob
06/25/17 4:27:14 PM
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He's clearly joking. Do you guys even know who Ian McKellen is?
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Doom_Art
06/25/17 4:38:55 PM
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I love how completely triggered all the alt-right loons ITT got from this.

anyway

Bond is already bi, at least.
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ollie89
06/25/17 4:40:44 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
I love how completely triggered all the alt-right loons ITT got from this.

anyway

Bond is already bi, at least.

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