Poll of the Day > Top CNN producer admits that the Russian interference is "bullshit"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP8TiKY8dE

Cnn is fake news
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I'm totally gonna watch a video Icoyar shared

CNN is fake news until it helps the alt right.
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Erik_P posted...

CNN is fake news until it helps the alt right.

You are fake news
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"Russians hacked the election" is quickly becoming the new "But her emails though."
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Zareth posted...

"Russians hacked the election" is quickly becoming the new "But her emails though."

Hmmmmmmm one of these is actually illegal and provable and the other is just a puff of smoke...............

Zareth posted...

"Russians hacked the election" is quickly becoming the new "But her emails though."

While it doesn't really matter and should probably die, I'd argue it's much more important and the fact that the Pubs won't even criticize it off hand is concerning. Particularly when relations with Russia are so tense. Yet Trump seems to want nothing more than to lay down and act as a welcome mat. It's not terrible on its own, but certainly worth keeping an eye out for. You'd expect a lot more uproar about this.
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Russian interference was real. Interference is a far lower bar to reach than hacking. Openly supporting Trump over Hillary was interference, I mean.
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PyroBlade1985 posted...

How accurate would it be if I said "People who believe Russia interfered with the election, probably also believe jet fuel can't melt steel beams."?

Russia did interfere. The important question is to what extent. It's also important to remember that interference does not necessarily mean hacking.
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PyroBlade1985 posted...

You're going to get dizzy if you keep spinning like that.

Interference and hacking are not synonyms, regardless of how the media conflates the two. It's easier to dismiss a proven claim (Putin openly supporting Trump over Hillary) when people confuse a less likely claim (hacking) for the exact same thing.
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bump

Who gives a shit what CNN says. Wait for what Mueller says after the investigation.

PyroBlade1985 posted...

Golden Road posted...

PyroBlade1985 posted...

How accurate would it be if I said "People who believe Russia interfered with the election, probably also believe jet fuel can't melt steel beams."?

Russia did interfere. The important question is to what extent. It's also important to remember that interference does not necessarily mean hacking.

You're going to get dizzy if you keep spinning like that.

I like how you seem to think "Russia interfered in the election" - something every US intelligence agency agrees upon and which their representatives have testified to under oath - is spin, but "People who believe in Russian interference = 9/11 truthers" somehow isn't.
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My opinion on the whole matter is simple.

Russia or patriotic Russians made attempts to hack things, influence the election, and so forth. But this isn't some horrible evil.

Countries attempting to influence each other is just fine. Why? Because not only is it reasonable for a country to try to influence another nation in order to get the best situation for themselves, but at the end of the day, by all rights a country like the USA SHOULD be able to carry on without much influence actually happening.

So really, why are people getting upset at Russia? Hell, WE influence other countries all the time, often in ways a fair bit more blunt then merely messing with an election a little (at times, our methods include arming rebel forces that are outright drying to topple their government, or dropping bombs on government forces of a nation we decide we really don't like).

But yeah. If there is any reason at all to be upset, then it would be only because we actually let ourselves be influenced by any attempts Russia/Russian supporters made to influence us. You know, assuming we did in fact allow ourselves to be influenced. And the blame for THAT can be put squarely on our government and media.
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It's not fake news.
CNN pulled it because it didn't meet their requirements for a story.
Hell if anything this is the OPPOSITE of fake news since it proves CNN gives a shit about legitimacy and that holy shit there are actually consequences for not meeting research requirements for a topic.
Again, the story is real, it just didn't meet CNN's requirements of absolute certainty.

Even if the Russians hacked the DNC, all they did was reveal them for who they are.
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Sephiroth C Ryu posted...

But this isn't some horrible evil.

They attacked the voter registries in two dozen states. I'd say that crosses the line from "fair play" to something worth getting upset about.
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That thumbnail says they don't know for sure. Someone didn't watch it
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Sephiroth C Ryu posted...

My opinion on the whole matter is simple.

Russia or patriotic Russians made attempts to hack things, influence the election, and so forth. But this isn't some horrible evil.

Countries attempting to influence each other is just fine. Why? Because not only is it reasonable for a country to try to influence another nation in order to get the best situation for themselves, but at the end of the day, by all rights a country like the USA SHOULD be able to carry on without much influence actually happening.

So really, why are people getting upset at Russia? Hell, WE influence other countries all the time, often in ways a fair bit more blunt then merely messing with an election a little (at times, our methods include arming rebel forces that are outright drying to topple their government, or dropping bombs on government forces of a nation we decide we really don't like).

But yeah. If there is any reason at all to be upset, then it would be only because we actually let ourselves be influenced by any attempts Russia/Russian supporters made to influence us. You know, assuming we did in fact allow ourselves to be influenced. And the blame for THAT can be put squarely on our government and media.
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This is the stupidest opinion I've ever seen about this entire story.

SomeUsername529 posted...

Sephiroth C Ryu posted...

My opinion on the whole matter is simple.

Russia or patriotic Russians made attempts to hack things, influence the election, and so forth. But this isn't some horrible evil.

Countries attempting to influence each other is just fine. Why? Because not only is it reasonable for a country to try to influence another nation in order to get the best situation for themselves, but at the end of the day, by all rights a country like the USA SHOULD be able to carry on without much influence actually happening.

So really, why are people getting upset at Russia? Hell, WE influence other countries all the time, often in ways a fair bit more blunt then merely messing with an election a little (at times, our methods include arming rebel forces that are outright drying to topple their government, or dropping bombs on government forces of a nation we decide we really don't like).

But yeah. If there is any reason at all to be upset, then it would be only because we actually let ourselves be influenced by any attempts Russia/Russian supporters made to influence us. You know, assuming we did in fact allow ourselves to be influenced. And the blame for THAT can be put squarely on our government and media.
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This is the stupidest opinion I've ever seen about this entire story.

He's probably a Russian bot.
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Russia made me vote for Trump and other conservatives.
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I thought the producer's comment was going to be a big deal, but it turns out he produces medical stories, so he probably doesn't know what evidence CNN has about Trump and Russia.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/maryanngeorgantopoulos/cnn-okeefe-video-on-russia

I wonder how much edited it is if we remember what happened whit planet parenthood
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EightySeven posted...

Who gives a shit what CNN says. Wait for what Mueller says after the investigation.

because CNN is the if not the biggest source of liberal media and sheep will believe everything they hear from them.
Why perpetuate lies?
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