Poll of the Day > Popular troll is being sued

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jesus christ... he has you both blocked and you STILL obsess like this?

get a fucking life, my god.
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RlP
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Troll_Police_ posted...

jesus christ... he has you both blocked and you STILL obsess like this?

get a fucking life, my god.

In my defense, I had no idea I was blocked.

But hey, that means I won!
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I watch that episode. he knew he was going to get sued, before even starting his show. So i bet he got a group a lawyer to make sure he can win against the CEO gaint.

He'll be fine, just like Jim Sterling and Digital Homicide.
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Muffinz0rz posted...

This has been acknowledged by the creation of my creating the subsequent polls. Otherwise, with a 1-to-19 vote, why would I have bothered creating more?

Why bother creating a non-deceptive one, you mean? #FakeNews #FakeMuffinz

Muffinz0rz posted...

The poll in question has nothing to do with Bulbasaur.

It has literally EVERYTHING to do with Bulbasaur since that's what the whole discussion revolved around. That's just like you trying to argue that you shouldn't consider evos for starter Pokemon when most of the reason that you pick a starter is based around its evos.

Muffinz0rz posted...

Again, you said the wording was biased. Doesn't matter where it's posted when your claim is that the wording is the issue. Secondly, I said I had no access to Smogon boards, so I'm not exactly sure what you wanted me to do (not like you'd tell me anyways, since it's easier to say "You're wrong you're wrong" over and over).

It is biased. You worded it deliberately to provoke a contrarian response. More so, you did it on a non-competitive board. Saying, "Oh, I have no access to Smogon!" isn't an excuse either, especially since if you didn't feel like getting around your ban you could have asked one of your friends to post for you.

Muffinz0rz posted...

The topic is about Sleep Powder, not Sleep.

And what does sleep powder do again? The idea that the two aren't connected is the height of idiocy.

Muffinz0rz posted...

You said I posted biased opinion polls, so I wanted to bring up all the polls I posted to show that they're unbiased, nor are they opinionated.

So you're defending an accusation of one thing by posting something completely unrelated? It's like Bill Clinton making a list of all the women he hasn't slept with.

Muffinz0rz posted...

mad?

Considering it's a dick move, what do you think?

Muffinz0rz posted...

In my defense, I had no idea I was blocked.

I didn't know it either.
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P sure Zeus is talkin to himself y'all.
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I love that Zeus decided to respond to this topic 2 days after the last response, in the hope that the person he's replying to would forget about the argument and giving Zeus the last word.

"I've been busy" will be his response, despite all the posts he's made in other topics.
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#FakeNews

Says the guy ragging about Bernie's "fraud" (that has no credibility behind it whatsoever)
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Zeus posted...

Why bother creating a non-deceptive one, you mean? #FakeNews #FakeMuffinz

You still haven't given specific wording examples as to how it's deceptive/biased. You're just talking in circles.

You: Your wording is misleading.
Me: How so? Specific examples please.
You: It's deceptive.
Me: How so? Specific examples please.
You: The wording is misleading.
Me: How so? Specific examples please.

etc.

And secondly, there's no way of knowing which response I want. For all the polltaker knows, one of the following two situations happened:

1.) I just lost to Sleep Powder and claimed that it was OP. My opponent disagreed, saying it wasn't OP. So, I created the poll(s), hoping people would vote that Sleep Powder was OP.

2.) I just won with Sleep Powder and my opponent claimed that it was OP. I disagreed, saying it wasn't OP. So, I created the poll(s), hoping people would vote that Sleep Powder wasn't OP.

All of my poll topics are worded so that either of these situations could fit, for the specific purpose of being unbiased. The polltaker has no way of knowing if I want them to vote Sleep Powder as OP or not.

Zeus posted...

It has literally EVERYTHING to do with Bulbasaur since that's what the whole discussion revolved around. That's just like you trying to argue that you shouldn't consider evos for starter Pokemon when most of the reason that you pick a starter is based around its evos.

None of my polls mention Bulbasaur. None of my original argument points had anything to do with Bulbasaur. As I've said numerous times, you're the one who insists on lumping Bulbasaur into it. My original argument was against your assertion that Sleep Powder was OP. There's a big difference between "Sleep Powder is OP" and "Sleep Powder is OP in relation to Bulbasaur in gen 1." I'm trying to argue the first quote. You're trying to argue the second. You're literally changing the topic, which is why you can't see past what I'm saying.

Zeus posted...

It is biased. You worded it deliberately to provoke a contrarian response. More so, you did it on a non-competitive board. Saying, "Oh, I have no access to Smogon!" isn't an excuse either, especially since if you didn't feel like getting around your ban you could have asked one of your friends to post for you.

I already refuted the "posting on a non-competitive board" bit, both by saying A.) I have no access to Smogon (which I've tried getting around multiple times, but they somehow block my work IP and two internet connections at home with several different email addresses too), and B.) You claimed the "wording" is biased, which means the issue lies with the poll itself, not where it's posted. So, please feel free to provide examples. And finally, just because they're not as "competitive" as Smogon, does that mean they're not entitled to opinions?

Hell, I asked you to create a poll on Smogon, but you refused. So the Smogon point is moot because the ball has been in your court and you've refused to do anything with it.

Zeus posted...

And what does sleep powder do again? The idea that the two aren't connected is the height of idiocy.

The idea that you can't separate the two is the height of idiocy. Sleep Powder =/= Sleep. You can't claim to be this Pokemon expert when you can't separate a status and a move.

Zeus posted...

So you're defending an accusation of one thing by posting something completely unrelated?

How is it unrelated? I reiterate, you said my polls were biased, so I posted my polls.
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He was alright every once in a while on the Daily Show. But good god I would never watch a show that's all him.
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Erik_P posted...

I love that Zeus decided to respond to this topic 2 days after the last response, in the hope that the person he's replying to would forget about the argument and giving Zeus the last word.

"I've been busy" will be his response, despite all the posts he's made in other topics.

Shits his gimmick. Lol an why I never let his embarrassments die.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

Erik_P posted...

I love that Zeus decided to respond to this topic 2 days after the last response, in the hope that the person he's replying to would forget about the argument and giving Zeus the last word.

"I've been busy" will be his response, despite all the posts he's made in other topics.

Shits his gimmick. Lol an why I never let his embarrassments die.

It's pretty ridiculous. Said he had 27 notifications to deal with once, which implies that all he does is post here, thus leaving more than enough to reply to this. Even this guy in another thread said,

darkknight109 posted...

Don't hold your breath - he has a bit of a habit of abandoning topics if the discussion starts going against him.

Sounds about right.
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bump
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Muffinz0rz posted...

It's pretty ridiculous. Said he had 27 notifications to deal with once, which implies that all he does is post here, thus leaving more than enough to reply to this. Even this guy in another thread said,

Zeus hovers. Waitin for peeps to forget topics then replies prayin for the last word. Gotta stay on him cause it's showin he's got no life. Shit my posts counts only high from his nutty rants.
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bump
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Zeus posted...

I'll get to it when I get to it and not a second sooner. More importantly, having opened that topic it's now off my normal notifications because I clicked on that topic so you're worse off than you were before, you Bulbasaur-bashing bully.

Bump so this is back on your notifications
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is any of this word reading?
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Insight posted...

is any of this word reading?

The back-and-forth between Zeus and me about Sleep Powder is worth reading, but the topic about John Oliver is not.
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Insight posted...

is any of this word reading?

Hell naw.
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bump
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wait is this about john oliver or bulbasaur

wtf is happening
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Nade Duck posted...

wait is this about john oliver or bulbasaur

wtf is happening

You missed the post about halfway through the topic where it was proven that John Oliver IS Bulbasaur.
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Nade Duck posted...

wait is this about john oliver or bulbasaur

wtf is happening

If you tag Zeus, you will get a full explanation.
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@Zeus wut
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Tropic_Sunset posted...

Nade Duck posted...

wait is this about john oliver or bulbasaur

wtf is happening

You missed the post about halfway through the topic where it was proven that John Oliver IS Bulbasaur.

i skipped like all the topic except the first 2-3 posts tbh
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Nade Duck posted...

Tropic_Sunset posted...

Nade Duck posted...

wait is this about john oliver or bulbasaur

wtf is happening

You missed the post about halfway through the topic where it was proven that John Oliver IS Bulbasaur.

i skipped like all the topic except the first 2-3 posts tbh

Post #36 is where it begins (in this topic - this debate has been going over several topics)
Post #39 is where he replies
Post #45 is where I reply to his reply
Post #51 is where he replies to one thing (because he's out of argument points, hence his lack of replying so far here)
I reply in post #52
He replies in #66 and I reply in #67
He tries to claim victory in #72, which is hilarious because he does so without replying to a majority of my points from #45
In #79, I give him the exact polls he asked for
He replies in #91 and threatens a block (oooo getting triggered)
I reply in #94
He replies in #105
I reply in #109 one week ago, and he hasn't been heard from since (even though he's been actively posting consistently, including Duckbear topics)

Last time on Dragon Ball Z
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Muffinz0rz posted...

I'm going to reply to everything you just said using things that I have already said.

Zeus posted...

Says the guy who tried to disprove that by posting a biased-worded poll on a Gamefaqs message board

Zeus posted...

tried to extrapolate Sleep Powder BEYOND the two generations when Bulbasaur was a starter despite it being referenced specifically as his moveset.

Zeus posted...

Oh, plus keeping in mind that this same guy said that nobody ran a physical Venusaur despite Smogon acknowledging physical moves in his top movesets.

Zeus posted...

Oh, plus keep in mind that this same guy claimed that nobody knew Pokemon evolutions in Gen 1 when the games came out despite the internet being a thing.

Zeus posted...

Not to mention that this same guy also claimed that people didn't pick starters based on evolutions.

I never argued that, hence my lack of photographic evidence. It would be foolish to argue that. But that's what happens when you take words out of context.

People absolutely pick starters for their evolutions. But you took my words out of context. I was arguing that, for the sake of the poll series, people aren't (shouldn't be) choosing their votes based on said starter's evolution. There's a massive difference between the two.

Zeus posted...

Otherwise, you're remarkably touchy about John Oliver getting called a troll, which is lulz in itself.

I couldn't care less about the topic at hand. I enjoy his videos, but don't care about his political views.

You hold an internet grudge over Pokémon evolutions? That is beyond sad. You should seek professional help.

JTekashiro posted...

You hold an internet grudge over Pokémon evolutions? That is beyond sad. You should seek professional help.

Not really sure how it's a "grudge" -- I called him out, he replied, and I replied back.
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Bump for zeus
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That show is pretty good, but Redacted Tonight is probably my favourite in the genre.
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Yellow posted...

#FakeNews

Says the guy ragging about Bernie's "fraud" (that has no credibility behind it whatsoever)

Except news story after news story discussing how Jane Sanders distorted donor numbers. And, because you don't understand shit, @Yellow , Bernie wasn't accused of fraud, he was accused of using his political office to pressure a loan.

Muffinz0rz posted...

None of my polls mention Bulbasaur. None of my original argument points had anything to do with Bulbasaur. As I've said numerous times, you're the one who insists on lumping Bulbasaur into it. My original argument was against your assertion that Sleep Powder was OP. There's a big difference between "Sleep Powder is OP" and "Sleep Powder is OP in relation to Bulbasaur in gen 1." I'm trying to argue the first quote. You're trying to argue the second. You're literally changing the topic, which is why you can't see past what I'm saying.

The entire topic WAS in relation to Bulbasaur. Sleep powder's efficacy only mattered in the generations where Bulbasaur started.

More importantly, since that time sleep has repeatedly been nerfed and sleep powder received several nerfs as well.

Muffinz0rz posted...

I already refuted the "posting on a non-competitive board" bit, both by saying A.) I have no access to Smogon (which I've tried getting around multiple times, but they somehow block my work IP and two internet connections at home with several different email addresses too), and B.) You claimed the "wording" is biased, which means the issue lies with the poll itself, not where it's posted. So, please feel free to provide examples. And finally, just because they're not as "competitive" as Smogon, does that mean they're not entitled to opinions?

Hell, I asked you to create a poll on Smogon, but you refused. So the Smogon point is moot because the ball has been in your court and you've refused to do anything with it.

None of which is an excuse, nor did you ever ask me to post on Smogon (or, if you did, you did so in such a flippant manner that I took it to be rhetorical).

Muffinz0rz posted...

The idea that you can't separate the two is the height of idiocy. Sleep Powder =/= Sleep. You can't claim to be this Pokemon expert when you can't separate a status and a move.

Given the fact that YOU repeatedly brought up sleep mechanics as proof of it not being OP, your trollish claims are stupid at best. Moves that cause sleep and sleep mechanics are tied at the hip. If sleep takes a hit, moves that cause sleep take a hit. Common sense. But frankly you have to be trolling.

Muffinz0rz posted...

How is it unrelated? I reiterate, you said my polls were biased, so I posted my polls.

Obfuscating stupidity. If you're going to sit there and claim that you were actually confused by what I meant, I'm going to block you because it means you're either a troll or too dense to be reason with.

Muffinz0rz posted...

JTekashiro posted...

You hold an internet grudge over Pokémon evolutions? That is beyond sad. You should seek professional help.

Not really sure how it's a "grudge" -- I called him out, he replied, and I replied back.

Seeing how many topics you've carried this into, it's either a grudge, a sustained attempt at trolling, or harassment. Or all three.

Now, if I was Wasteland, I'd close this topic.
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I certainly enjoy how Zeus waits 2 days to respond to people in the hope that he can get the last word and he can feel like he won the argument.

Kinda sad that's what he has to do to feel good about himself.
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Zeus posted...

The entire topic WAS in relation to Bulbasaur.

The topic was. But my conversation topic wasn't.

Zeus posted...

Sleep powder's efficacy only mattered in the generations where Bulbasaur started.

Uh, why exactly?

Zeus posted...

More importantly, since that time sleep has repeatedly been nerfed and sleep powder received several nerfs as well.

Yes. And as I've said, Sleep Powder WAS OP in gen 1. Then the nerfs fixed it. As for Sleep Powder, it didn't receive "several" nerfs. The only nerf is got was gen VI onwards, when powder moves stopped being effective on grass types, as well as the addition of Sweet Veil and Safety Goggles, even though the former is only on 7 Pokemon (only 3 fully evolved) and the latter is basically never used, campaign or competitive.

Zeus posted...

None of which is an excuse, nor did you ever ask me to post on Smogon (or, if you did, you did so in such a flippant manner that I took it to be rhetorical).

Not my fault you're the one putting up a brick wall because you're too afraid to actually try and find some evidence to support yourself.

Zeus posted...

Given the fact that YOU repeatedly brought up sleep mechanics as proof of it not being OP, your trollish claims are stupid at best. Moves that cause sleep and sleep mechanics are tied at the hip. If sleep takes a hit, moves that cause sleep take a hit. Common sense. But frankly you have to be trolling.

I never said that they weren't connected in some way. I'm saying that they're not the same entity. You're the one who can't separate the two, just like you can't separate Sleep Powder and Bulbasaur.

Zeus posted...

Obfuscating stupidity. If you're going to sit there and claim that you were actually confused by what I meant, I'm going to block you because it means you're either a troll or too dense to be reason with.

Muffinz0rz posted...

I reiterate, you said my polls were biased, so I posted my polls.

Along with the fact that you still haven't given specifics about the wording of the polls and how they are biased.
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Zeus posted...

Seeing how many topics you've carried this into, it's either a grudge, a sustained attempt at trolling, or harassment. Or all three.

None of the above. They were just simple reminders, since you were so keen on posting in duckbear's shitposts over actually responding to a legitimate discussion.

Erik_P posted...

I certainly enjoy how Zeus waits 2 days to respond to people in the hope that he can get the last word and he can feel like he won the argument.

Kinda sad that's what he has to do to feel good about himself.

Sad thing is, it was 2 weeks here.
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bump to prevent purg'd
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Zeus
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Bump before the weekend, would hate to see this get purg'd but I wont be on for a while
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Dammit Zeus just close this topic already.
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He can't, he knows if he closes it, I win.
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Zeus
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10 days since a reply

He just wants me to forget

Sad!
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Muffinz0rz posted...

Sad!

https://www.freeonlinemirror.com/img/mirror.jpg
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Tropic_Sunset posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Sad!

https://www.freeonlinemirror.com/img/mirror.jpg

What's sadder is the guy who tries to win arguments by hoping the other party forgets to reply, as opposed to debating legitimately.
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Muffinz0rz posted...

Tropic_Sunset posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Sad!

https://www.freeonlinemirror.com/img/mirror.jpg

What's sadder is the guy who tries to win arguments by hoping the other party forgets to reply, as opposed to debating legitimately.

Gotta be fair. Zeuses old af. Between sortin junk mail an the retirement home events old guys got nothin goin. Doubt he's got kiddos or game for a senior gal.
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