Current Events > Isn't CNN essentially blackmailing the guy who made the WWE Trump gif now?

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Caution999
07/05/17 9:55:56 AM
#153:


Trump should pardon this guy right now.
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Esrac
07/05/17 9:56:31 AM
#154:


Yeah. The way they phrase it in their article, it totally looks like blackmail.

CNN: "That's an awfully nice identity you have there. It'd be a shame is someone exposed it publicly."
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Antifar
07/05/17 9:56:34 AM
#155:


Caution999 posted...
Trump should pardon this guy right now.


Do you know what a pardon is
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Caution999
07/05/17 9:57:13 AM
#156:


Antifar posted...
Caution999 posted...
Trump should pardon this guy right now.


Do you know what a pardon is


It was a joke, dude. But I wouldn't be surprised if CNN tried to make him out to be a criminal.

Also merely for effect to show he supports him over CNN - would be hilarious.
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SSMajinVegeta2
07/05/17 9:58:08 AM
#157:


It's a meme for crying out loud
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gmanthebest
07/05/17 9:59:19 AM
#158:


God forbid you create something funny
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SGT_Conti
07/05/17 10:02:42 AM
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Cocytus posted...
Why did he even apologize? I mean, it was just a WWE meme about current events (coincidentally for us here on our board). He didn't do anything wrong. Publish his name, write it down, take a picture, no one gives a fuck.

He didn't apologise for the gif, it was for all the racist and anti-Semitic posts he made on his Reddit account.
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The Deadpool
07/05/17 10:05:36 AM
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Mal_Fet posted...
So if he didn't do any of that, CNN would have released his info?


See, it is strange for a news network to not release the name of the subject of an article.

Their whole paragraph is an explanation as to why they shouldn't. What they were actually worried about, was that NOT revealing his name would make them look bad.

They never even considered holding on to the right would be controversial. Because it's just normal common sense.

That's why there's a whole paragraph worth of excuses as to why they shouldn't reveal his name. Thatsbthem making the case for the audience that not revealing his name is an acceptable idea.
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StarReaper13
07/05/17 10:17:00 AM
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I wish others would do what he did and put CNN's name on people getting their ass beat just to show that their threats are bullshit. CNN might have thought they did the smart thing, but given how much half the country wants to piss off the other (and vise versa other then the obvious exceptions), they're in for a surprise.
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Antifar
07/05/17 10:17:06 AM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
And why is this guy apologizing? It was a funny little gif.

The other stuff on his Reddit profile was not
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Lorenzo_2003
07/05/17 10:19:47 AM
#165:


The Deadpool posted...

See, it is strange for a news network to not release the name of the subject of an article.

Their whole paragraph is an explanation as to why they shouldn't. What they were actually worried about, was that NOT revealing his name would make them look bad.

They never even considered holding on to the right would be controversial. Because it's just normal common sense.

That's why there's a whole paragraph worth of excuses as to why they shouldn't reveal his name. Thatsbthem making the case for the audience that not revealing his name is an acceptable idea.


They're sending a message to all of their critics, while still trying to make it seem like they (CNN) aren't doing anything wrong. CNN is caught between a rock and a hard place because they know their reputation has taken a dive lately and they want to reverse that by hitting back. Their 24/7 focus on Trump and editorial jabs at him haven't worked, so now they've targeted this Redditor. Unfortunately for them, this stunt is backfiring.
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Mal_Fet
07/05/17 10:21:12 AM
#166:


The Deadpool posted...
See, it is strange for a news network to not release the name of the subject of an article.

No it isn't

The Deadpool posted...
Their whole paragraph is an explanation as to why they shouldn't. What they were actually worried about, was that NOT revealing his name would make them look bad.

Are you joking? Are you honestly saying that CNN thought it would look bad if they DIDN'T scour the private info of a person who's only crime was having their gif reposted by Donald Trump? Doxxing someone is the high road in your opinion?
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SGT_Conti
07/05/17 10:34:51 AM
#167:


ClunkerSlim posted...
And why is this guy apologizing? It was a funny little gif. Only a complete brain dead moron would think it was a call to violence.

His apology was for his Reddit posts, not the gif. People took a lot of screenshots of the kind of things he posted before he deleted his account.
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mario2000
07/05/17 11:04:08 AM
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won't someone think of the racist shitposters
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Mal_Fet
07/05/17 11:08:00 AM
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mario2000 posted...
won't someone think of the racist shitposters

He says, in defense of blackmailers.
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B8ter
07/05/17 11:23:21 AM
#170:


Doxxing is only okay when Fox or Briebart does it.
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Returning_CEmen
07/05/17 11:27:35 AM
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chrono625
07/05/17 11:28:48 AM
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Antifar posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
And why is this guy apologizing? It was a funny little gif.

The other stuff on his Reddit profile was not


Which has NOTHING to do with why he was being looked into.

It's like you're justifying their bullshit because he's a moron and said stupid things.

if he had a clean Reddit history, does it make it look worse for CNN?

I mean, either way, this boils down to CNN black mailing (from the perspective of the initial publication) an individual over a meme.
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XXmiznatorXX
07/05/17 11:58:01 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJzrJOiw18o



Is this even real life? They're gloating about them forcing him to apologize.....with 4 reporters to chime in about it.
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HBOSS
07/05/17 12:00:22 PM
#174:


XXmiznatorXX posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJzrJOiw18o



Is this even real life? They're gloating about them forcing him to apologize.....with 4 reporters to chime in about it.

Cleansing one internet troll
One day at a time
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DirkDiggles
07/05/17 12:01:41 PM
#175:


The Deadpool posted...
chrono625 posted...
saying if he did something similar again they'd reveal his info?


That isn't what they said.

They said they can reveal his name later should the situation change.

Right now, revealing his name isn't relevant. But in the future it might be. It could be news. Realistically it won't be, but it could be.

If they say they won't reveal the name now and later end up revealing it without that note they could be liable.

It's just covering their asses. "Look we see no reason to reveal this information now. But later, who knows?"


https://youtu.be/9wEnb9yIoes?t=25s
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refmon
07/05/17 12:06:25 PM
#176:


You know when Doom_Art doesnt defend this....
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MotaroRIP619
07/05/17 12:07:41 PM
#177:


They are a bunch of fucking idiots. In no way does this make them look good at all.
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voldothegr8
07/05/17 12:09:02 PM
#178:


refmon posted...
You know when Doom_Art doesnt defend this....

He started to in a few topics but wisely backed off.
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hockeybub89
07/05/17 12:13:02 PM
#181:


Trump looks like a stupid jackass again and CNN has to fuck it up by blackmailing the meme creator. Now Trump whores can continue to ignore how much of a fucking embarrassment the President is.
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Fossil
07/05/17 12:19:10 PM
#182:


hockeybub89 posted...
Trump looks like a stupid jackass again and CNN has to fuck it up by blackmailing the meme creator. Now Trump whores can continue to ignore how much of a fucking embarrassment the President is.

No way. He's a breath of fresh air!
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HBOSS
07/05/17 12:20:05 PM
#183:


gFQsu93_d

When it comes crashing down...
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Bad Ass Chucky
07/05/17 6:14:39 PM
#184:


It's a gif.

The same kind we see all over the internet mocking everything. When Sony bested MS some years ago at E3, there were gifs posted all over showing a PS4 slamming, stomping, beating, etc., an XBO. No one considers it violence. This is the culture we live in. To equate a silly gif with "ugly behavior on social media" is crazy.

CNN didn't like being mocked, so they tracked down the guy who made it and threatened to expose his personal information if he did it again. That is blackmail, pure and simple. Think about is Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo and anyone else did that for all the gifs we see on the internet. Let that sink in for a second.

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TheVipaGTS
07/05/17 6:40:51 PM
#185:


"It's a gif"...true but you have to give it context. This whole Fake News and Anti-CNN angle is something he has been pushing for months. He takes it seriously and tells everyone it's a very serious issue...in turn so have his followers. Some of whom are T_D level crazy. Do I think his intent was to imply harming CNN employees? No I think he's just dumb. That wasn't even my first thought. But given how passionate some get about it I can see why CNN may have been concerned. It's one thing for you and I to post that on CE. You can't see how the president, who has again been running an anti-CNN campaign that he takes very seriously, humoring that gif is a bit irresponsible?

And before anyone says it I'm not defending CNN. The way they handled this was terrible. Both sides are acting like petty children. It's just unfortunate that the one side you'd expect to be above it and act with a little more dignity seems to be the instigator.
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chrono625
07/05/17 6:59:56 PM
#186:


TheVipaGTS posted...
"It's a gif"...true but you have to give it context.


the context here is that CNN is alienating everyone and destroying what ever integrity they had.

you can't call yourself journalism when you're actively seeking out people to out who butt ravaged you with a meme.

you can't threaten someone because you felt mocked with words.

regardless of what he said on Reddit, no one knew who this guy was until CNN went investigating. He didn't even know Trump was going to post the meme.

he was completely innocent in terms of what happened before they dug deeper looking for dirt. they wanted to find stuff to portray this guy in a negative light to save face.

that's complete bullshit and the coercion was just the icing on the shit cake they baked.
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Mal_Fet
07/05/17 7:02:12 PM
#187:


TheVipaGTS posted...
"It's a gif"...true but you have to give it context. This whole Fake News and Anti-CNN angle is something he has been pushing for months.

CNN has been putting out fake news for longer than just a few months.

You know they have, Vipa. I have shown you examples.
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TheVipaGTS
07/05/17 7:05:41 PM
#188:


I said he's been pushing it for months. Where did you get "a few" from and how did you interperate that sentence as me saying they've only been bias for "a few months" lol
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reeekt
07/05/17 7:06:16 PM
#189:


That was badass, why wouldn't he want people to know his name?
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Mal_Fet
07/05/17 7:07:29 PM
#190:


TheVipaGTS posted...
I said he's been pushing it for months. Where did you get "a few" from and how did you interperate that sentence as me saying they've only been bias for "a few months" lol

Trump has been calling CNN fake news since CNN has been pushing fake news.

Not sure what's so hard to get about this
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chrono625
07/05/17 7:08:53 PM
#191:


reeekt posted...
That was badass, why wouldn't he want people to know his name?


because people take things way too far and would make his life absolutely miserable/unliveable?

if you're for her neutrality and having your privacy/internet history protected you cannot in good conscious be ok with this.
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Glass_Phantom
07/05/17 7:09:20 PM
#192:


Perhaps I'm missing something, but this Reddit user has engaged in racist, anti-Semitic, and anti-Muslim speech, which has gone viral on multiple past occasions...

CNN's motivations aside, why is it such a bad thing to bring that into the light?

Why do we pretend like it's "censorship" to hold a person accountable for their words and actions?

Have we really reached the point where respecting anonymity on the Internet is more important than taking a firm stance against hate? Than standing up, and saying "No!" to it?
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Mal_Fet
07/05/17 7:11:02 PM
#193:


Glass_Phantom posted...
Perhaps I'm missing something, but this Reddit user has engaged in racist, anti-Semitic, and anti-Muslim speech, which has gone viral on multiple past occasions...

CNN's motivations aside, why is it such a bad thing to bring that into the light?

There are hundreds of people on the_donald who post racist shit.

So if they just want to out racists, how come CNN only went after the one who they thought made the gif making fun of them?
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TheVipaGTS
07/05/17 7:11:55 PM
#194:


Mal_Fet posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
I said he's been pushing it for months. Where did you get "a few" from and how did you interperate that sentence as me saying they've only been bias for "a few months" lol

Trump has been calling CNN fake news since CNN has been pushing fake news.

Not sure what's so hard to get about this

Right. And it's picked up steam and has reached the masses over the last several months since he started his campaign. No one gave a fuck when he did it before that. Come on Mal don't play these dumb games. If you want to have a real discussion for once then let's do it but I'm not gonna play this game with you lol.
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Mal_Fet
07/05/17 7:13:30 PM
#196:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Right. And it's picked up steam and has reached the masses over the last several months since he started his campaign.

And rightfully so. What CNN has been doing is disgusting and should not be tolerated.

What's the problem with calling them out?
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TheVipaGTS
07/05/17 7:18:46 PM
#197:


Maybe try reading the rest of my post to understand the context. There is nothing wrong with calling out a news agency for lies. But he does it even when they don't lie. Any criticism of his is treated as "fake news". That's irresponsible. The way he does it pumps up the dumbest of his base and that could lead to something serious happening. I expect more integrity from the man who calls himself President than a do a shitty cable news network.
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Glass_Phantom
07/05/17 7:19:55 PM
#198:


Mal_Fet posted...
Glass_Phantom posted...
Perhaps I'm missing something, but this Reddit user has engaged in racist, anti-Semitic, and anti-Muslim speech, which has gone viral on multiple past occasions...

CNN's motivations aside, why is it such a bad thing to bring that into the light?

There are hundreds of people on the_donald who post racist shit.

So if they just want to out racists, how come CNN only went after the one who they thought made the gif making fun of them?


Right. Which is why I said this:

CNN's motivations aside, why is it such a bad thing to bring that into the light?
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Mal_Fet
07/05/17 7:21:51 PM
#199:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Maybe try reading the rest of my post to understand the context.

See, this is how I know you're full of it. The rest of your post was a jab about how you think I don't have real discussions. Yeah, I'm so sure that context was super-duper important to the subject matter.

There is nothing wrong with calling out a news agency for lies. But he does it even when they don't lie.

So can you give some examples, or...

Any criticism of his is treated as "fake news". That's irresponsible.

lol now who's not engaging in a real discussion? This isn't true and you know it.

I expect more integrity from the man who calls himself President than a do a shitty cable news network.

No, the MSM deserves to get hammered on all fronts when it fucks up. This is a good thing.

Glass_Phantom posted...
CNN's motivations aside, why is it such a bad thing to bring that into the light?

Outing a legitimate racist is fine.

A multi-billion dollar news organization blackmailing a person because they were made fun of is not.

It's almost like the context is required here to understand why what CNN did was despicable!
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TheVipaGTS
07/05/17 7:28:00 PM
#200:


How was the rest of my post a jab at how you didn't have a real discussion. I'm talking about this post...you only quoted a snippet of it at first. I said read the rest of it to understand why I highlighted that point.

TheVipaGTS posted...
"It's a gif"...true but you have to give it context. This whole Fake News and Anti-CNN angle is something he has been pushing for months. He takes it seriously and tells everyone it's a very serious issue...in turn so have his followers. Some of whom are T_D level crazy. Do I think his intent was to imply harming CNN employees? No I think he's just dumb. That wasn't even my first thought. But given how passionate some get about it I can see why CNN may have been concerned. It's one thing for you and I to post that on CE. You can't see how the president, who has again been running an anti-CNN campaign that he takes very seriously, humoring that gif is a bit irresponsible?

And before anyone says it I'm not defending CNN. The way they handled this was terrible. Both sides are acting like petty children. It's just unfortunate that the one side you'd expect to be above it and act with a little more dignity seems to be the instigator.

Where the fuck in there did I take a jab at you lol. You're losing it Mal (assuming you ever had it) See THAT was a jab
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Mal_Fet
07/05/17 7:30:09 PM
#201:


TheVipaGTS posted...
How was the rest of my post a jab at how you didn't have a real discussion. I'm talking about this post...

TheVipaGTS posted...
"It's a gif"...true but you have to give it context. This whole Fake News and Anti-CNN angle is something he has been pushing for months. He takes it seriously and tells everyone it's a very serious issue...in turn so have his followers. Some of whom are T_D level crazy. Do I think his intent was to imply harming CNN employees? No I think he's just dumb. That wasn't even my first thought. But given how passionate some get about it I can see why CNN may have been concerned. It's one thing for you and I to post that on CE. You can't see how the president, who has again been running an anti-CNN campaign that he takes very seriously, humoring that gif is a bit irresponsible?

And before anyone says it I'm not defending CNN. The way they handled this was terrible. Both sides are acting like petty children. It's just unfortunate that the one side you'd expect to be above it and act with a little more dignity seems to be the instigator.

Where the fuck in there did I take a jab at you lol. You're losing it Mal (assuming you ever had it) See THAT was a jab

It's not irresponsible for the president to call CNN fake news when CNN is, in truth, fake news.

Ease up on that hate boner for one second and laugh at CNN along with the rest of us. That ship is sinkin fast and you don't want to be on it.
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CruorComa
07/05/17 7:32:38 PM
#202:


Glass_Phantom posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Glass_Phantom posted...
Perhaps I'm missing something, but this Reddit user has engaged in racist, anti-Semitic, and anti-Muslim speech, which has gone viral on multiple past occasions...

CNN's motivations aside, why is it such a bad thing to bring that into the light?

There are hundreds of people on the_donald who post racist shit.

So if they just want to out racists, how come CNN only went after the one who they thought made the gif making fun of them?


Right. Which is why I said this:

CNN's motivations aside, why is it such a bad thing to bring that into the light?


It's a sub where they refer to Trump as God Emperor on the regular. They're about as racist and bigotted as r/dankmemes are holocaust fans and /pol is antisemitic. Just kekistani's seeing humour in and making light of conventionally taboo social constructs. CNN being so out of touch with shitlord and troll culture is hilarious and all, but it's just plain misrepresentative of reality.
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