Current Events > So Crash 1 is a bit harder than I remember

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Middle fingers up to the last skewer jump in Hog Wild and all of Native Fortress

I've gotten three game overs on Native Fortress

From did a really nice job with Dark Souls 4
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I had the most issues with the rope bridge levels, until I realized you could just jump on the ropes and run across, lol.
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Road to Nowhere stage is hell on earth
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It's due to VV normalizing the jump physics for all the Crash games. Originally each game had different physics that it was built around.

Crash 1 suffers the most
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*continues laughing like Burt Reynolds on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno*
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ToadallyAwesome posted...

It's due to VV normalizing the jump physics for all the Crash games. Originally each game had different physics that it was built around.

Crash 1 suffers the most

I get not wanting to make three separate jumping mechanics



But shouldn't you at least compensate for that? Considering it's a fucking core element of gameplay?
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Holy shit backtracking is not a good game design..

Trying to get the box gym in level 9 before ripper roo and I had no clue where to go after the metal box. Also on Ripper Roo there's places you can hide to the right of all the platforms. Figured that out way too late.

I never completed the first one as a kid. Didn't the box count and bonus tokens reset after every checkpoint in the original? I guess that's a plus.
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I lost 16 lives on Native Fortress and decided I'd never play it again. they fucked up the hitboxes and physics pretty good.

crash 2 is much better anyways.
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I spent like 2 hours on native fortress this weekend. Brutal
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metralo posted...

I lost 16 lives on Native Fortress and decided I'd never play it again. they fucked up the hitboxes and physics pretty good.

crash 2 is much better anyways.

Is there any infinite life spots? Loading screens are atrocious.
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metralo posted...

I lost 16 lives on Native Fortress and decided I'd never play it again. they fucked up the hitboxes and physics pretty good.

crash 2 is much better anyways.

I shit you not I'm on life 60
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Play 2 and 3. They're a lot better.
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Life 70 was the magic one.

Holy shit
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Khalpz posted...

Play 2 and 3. They're a lot better.

You gotta play them all tho
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I'd go back to the first one after those.

Fuck it do what you want. I can't stand the controls and some of the shit they make you do in the first one.
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I hope they never patch this. This is just too amusing.
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I am going to punch Ripper Roo in his fucking throat
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...

I hope they never patch this. This is just too amusing.

Oh don't get me wrong I'm loving it

But Jesus Christ

Ripper is ripped
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Wait until you try to get gold relics.

Crash has become Dark Souls.
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DezCaughtIt posted...

I am going to punch Ripper Roo in his fucking throat

Go to the side he only jumps diagonals for the first two hits it seems.

Only hit the boxes that go down stream , the ones near the back of the waterfall have really bad hitboxes.

For the third hit you have to venture out and activate two boxes (one near the back of the waterfall that sucks, , and one mid platform) and it'll trap him.
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I didn't have a single issue with Native Fortress.

I did, however, suffer greatly on road to nowhere. That's where the level design took a shit back in 1996, and it still takes a shit today. Continued many times til I beat it.

The second one "high road" is also difficult, but slightly easier.

And then Slippery Climb had me stuck for a couple hours - though nowhere near as bad as road to nowhere. I actually used to like Slippery Climb back in the day, too - so the aggregation wasn't as bad (they actually planned to have a second level in this design which was much harder too - playable on game shark on original ps1 version).

I beat the game on Saturday night. I didn't remember the bosses at all so I'm pretty sure I haven't beaten the game since the 90s, lol.

And yeah High Road and Slippery Climb are back to back, too. Naughty Dog didn't give a fuck back then.
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Funnily enough when I finally beat Native Fortress it was all on one run
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I'm trying to get the gem in slippery climb rn. Honestly I'm not having that hard a time with Crash compared to others but the reworked physics are a bit of a pain for the no death runs.

I can't even beat Hog Wild >_>
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The remaster is factually harder than the first one. The jump physics are different (the speed of the jump and platform physics) and the levels load all at once as opposed to in chunks like the originals so hazards will very often be out of sync with the level
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...

I hope they never patch this. This is just too amusing.

This honestly. I definitely complained, but the difficulty reminded me of how it was like as a little kid, getting frustrated to hell and back. Now that's nostalgia.
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dave_is_slick posted...

Zack_Attackv1 posted...

I hope they never patch this. This is just too amusing.

This honestly. I definitely complained, but the difficulty reminded me of how it was like as a little kid, getting frustrated to hell and back. Now that's nostalgia.

Agree. The game is proven to be more difficult, but it's not broken.

Caution999 posted...

The second one "high road" is also difficult, but slightly easier.

You are literally the first person to say this.
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dave_is_slick posted...

Caution999 posted...

The second one "high road" is also difficult, but slightly easier.

You are literally the first person to say this.

Actually I have to second the high road being easier.

Bio1590 posted...

I can't even beat Hog Wild >_>

Use the directional pad for the diagonals.

Games really weird where some levels are best with old school controls and some aren't.
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TheDarkCircle posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

Zack_Attackv1 posted...

I hope they never patch this. This is just too amusing.

This honestly. I definitely complained, but the difficulty reminded me of how it was like as a little kid, getting frustrated to hell and back. Now that's nostalgia.

Agree. The game is proven to be more difficult, but it's not broken.

Maybe some of the hitboxes, like the flames in Native Fortress. They "burn" way higher than the actual flames themselves.
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OG Crash 1 was hard but nothing insane.

I mean a few levels that take double-digit tries can count as hard but the difficulty mostly comes from the old school "if you run out of lives, much progress will be lost" BS.
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mcpwnia posted...

The remaster is factually harder than the first one. The jump physics are different (the speed of the jump and platform physics) and the levels load all at once as opposed to in chunks like the originals so hazards will very often be out of sync with the level

This game does not require you to not lose a life in order to get every gem, which that factor alone makes the original harder
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nayr626 posted...

Bio1590 posted...

I can't even beat Hog Wild >_>

Use the directional pad for the diagonals.

Games really weird where some levels are best with old school controls and some aren't.

I've almost exclusively used the d-pad. For some reason I fuck up a lot when I try to use the control stick
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The only thing that fucked me in Hog Wild was that last god damn skewer. I couldn't get the timing down for the life of me
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Just got the gem on slippery climb... ooof

God bless your soul
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Can you really play as Coco in Trilogy? Or is she not usable for bosses?
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What exactly are the changes in physics? Never played the originals so not sure what's different.
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Mernardi posted...

Wait until you try to get gold relics.

Crash has become Dark Souls.

Wait they added relics to crash 1? Goddamn. That game was hard enough as it is.

I always thought 2 and 3 were easier, but they were also more fun. Crash 1 was just hard because the controls were fucked. Especially in side scroller sections because you'd go an inch too far close or close to the screen and miss a jump. Always kinda pissed me off. If you're doing a 3D platformer, let me have a forward look
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TheDarkCircle posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

Caution999 posted...

The second one "high road" is also difficult, but slightly easier.

You are literally the first person to say this.

Actually I have to second the high road being easier.

Yep. IIRC, I believe Naughty Dog (in 96) made High Road first - so it was more "fleshed out" for some reason. The Road to Nowhere was made more as a necessity - as they needed another level.
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I is smart posted...

What exactly are the changes in physics? Never played the originals so not sure what's different.

To me, the difference I'm noticing is that I seem to have to jump later then I normally would. Maybe it's in my mind, but I feel like I have to get to the VERRYY edge of every platform before I jump. If I'm not on the tip of the edge, I won't make the jump to the next platform. It's infuriating.
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I don't know how most people here are having such problems with Crash 1. I finished the first island with 3 gems and 18 lives within an hour.
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EyeWontBeFooled posted...

I don't know how most people here are having such problems with Crash 1. I finished the first island with 3 gems and 18 lives within an hour.

I only got 2 through my first tour of the first island. Both - being the "constant moving" levels. Boulders and Hog Wild. I guess I've had the spots memorized where the boxes are since 1996.
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Road to Nowhere more like Road to ASS
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I just walked off the edge trying to go to the bonus

FUCK ME
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Crash 1 is the only real challenging Crash game

2 and 3 are beyond easy, especially the boss fights

The real challenge in 2 and 3 is trying to get 100%, especially the time relics. the levels themselves are for the most part a breeze and the bosses can be beaten by 5 year olds

Crash 1 has some hard as fuck stages, ESPECIALLY road to nowhere

Had a hard time climbing the rainy castle back then too

DezCaughtIt posted...

I just walked off the edge trying to go to the bonus

FUCK ME

That happened to me two or three times in a row. Jump into the bonus instead.