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Nikra 07/06/17 7:22:32 PM #51:	John_Galt posted... Nikra posted... I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education. "free" Paid by taxes. <cite>Nikra posted [p:882455490] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>John_Galt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education.</quote> "free"</quote> Paid by taxes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nikra 07/06/17 7:24:01 PM #52:	dolomedes posted... Nikra posted... I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education. don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves. This. lol <cite>Nikra posted [p:882455566] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>dolomedes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education.</quote> don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves.</quote> This. lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 07/06/17 7:25:02 PM #53:	Pension reform is the only solution. Everyone want their shit, but they're willing to destroy the state to get it, despite that fact that it's unattainable. Nobody wants to tackle the big elephant in the room, that's the real problem here. Too many politicians are worried about their votes instead of admitting the fact that unions are the sucking the life out of Illinois. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:882455612] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote>Pension reform is the only solution. Everyone want their shit, but they're willing to destroy the state to get it, despite that fact that it's unattainable. Nobody wants to tackle the big elephant in the room, that's the real problem here. Too many politicians are worried about their votes instead of admitting the fact that unions are the sucking the life out of Illinois.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 07/06/17 7:26:42 PM #54:	Nikra posted... dolomedes posted... Nikra posted... I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education. don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves. This. lol "It's MY money, and I need it NOW!" --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:882455693] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dolomedes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education.</quote> don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves.</quote> This. lol</quote> "It's MY money, and I need it NOW!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NYmasajista 07/06/17 7:34:30 PM #55:	Isn't IL currently 20 billion in debt and without a budget for the last two years? <cite>NYmasajista posted [p:882456085] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote>Isn't IL currently 20 billion in debt and without a budget for the last two years?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nikra 07/06/17 7:45:22 PM #56:	dolomedes posted... Nikra posted... I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education. don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves. Think about it. In my country, parents don't have to set thousinds of dollars aside for their childrends education. It's free. Those 40% is a lot lesser, the more children they have. lol <cite>Nikra posted [p:882456641] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>dolomedes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education.</quote> don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves.</quote> Think about it. In my country, parents don't have to set thousinds of dollars aside for their childrends education. It's free. Those 40% is a lot lesser, the more children they have. lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/06/17 7:48:41 PM #57:	dolomedes posted... Nikra posted... I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education. don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves. easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more <cite>Clad posted [p:882456802] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>dolomedes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education.</quote> don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves.</quote> easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/06/17 7:49:01 PM #58:	GreatEvilEmpire posted... Pension reform is the only solution. Everyone want their shit, but they're willing to destroy the state to get it, despite that fact that it's unattainable. Nobody wants to tackle the big elephant in the room, that's the real problem here. Too many politicians are worried about their votes instead of admitting the fact that unions are the sucking the life out of Illinois. @Antifar <cite>Clad posted [p:882456824] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted...</cite> <quote>Pension reform is the only solution. Everyone want their shit, but they're willing to destroy the state to get it, despite that fact that it's unattainable. Nobody wants to tackle the big elephant in the room, that's the real problem here. Too many politicians are worried about their votes instead of admitting the fact that unions are the sucking the life out of Illinois.</quote> @Antifar</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePrinceFish 07/06/17 7:52:19 PM #60:	dolomedes posted... Clad posted... easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more i don't earn 30k. Must be easy to cheer for higher taxes then. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:882457037] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>dolomedes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more</quote> i don't earn 30k.</quote> Must be easy to cheer for higher taxes then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nikra 07/06/17 7:53:32 PM #62:	Clad posted... dolomedes posted... Nikra posted... I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education. don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves. easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more But if you had free education, You wouldn't had to work a dead end job. <cite>Nikra posted [p:882457104] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dolomedes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education.</quote> don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves.</quote> easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more</quote> But if you had free education, You wouldn't had to work a dead end job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/06/17 7:53:46 PM #63:	dolomedes posted... Clad posted... easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more i don't earn 30k. Exactly the fucking point. When you don't earn a lot, of course you're going to pretend you're fine with high taxes. You're not the one paying them! dolomedes posted... also i'd be happy to pay more taxes if it meant i could visit a doctor and my country had a halfway-decent education system lol What the fuck are you smoking? We spend $16,000 per student per year in the Chicago Public School system and yet it's a fucking disaster. Higher taxes != higher quality healthcare or higher quality education. In fact, knowing that you've got massive income thanks to millions of tax cattle is a HUGE takeaway from the incentive of providing quality care or quality education. <cite>Clad posted [p:882457124] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>dolomedes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more</quote> i don't earn 30k.</quote> Exactly the fucking point. When you don't earn a lot, of course you're going to pretend you're fine with high taxes. You're not the one paying them! <cite>dolomedes posted...</cite> <quote>also i'd be happy to pay more taxes if it meant i could visit a doctor and my country had a halfway-decent education system lol</quote> What the fuck are you smoking? We spend $16,000 per student per year in the Chicago Public School system and yet it's a fucking disaster. Higher taxes != higher quality healthcare or higher quality education. In fact, knowing that you've got massive income thanks to millions of tax cattle is a HUGE takeaway from the incentive of providing quality care or quality education.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/06/17 7:54:16 PM #64:	Nikra posted... Clad posted... dolomedes posted... Nikra posted... I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education. don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves. easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more But if you had free education, You wouldn't had to work a dead end job. I paid for my own education and I'm happy with my job. I pay a lot in taxes every month. <cite>Clad posted [p:882457154] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dolomedes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education.</quote> don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves.</quote> easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more</quote> But if you had free education, You wouldn't had to work a dead end job.</quote> I paid for my own education and I'm happy with my job. I pay a lot in taxes every month.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 07/06/17 7:54:25 PM #65:	Clad posted... dolomedes posted... Nikra posted... I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education. don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves. easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more We all appreciate your hard work. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:882457159] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dolomedes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education.</quote> don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves.</quote> easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more</quote> We all appreciate your hard work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
literal_garbage 07/06/17 7:55:44 PM #66:	That_Happened posted... Clad posted... dolomedes posted... Nikra posted... I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education. don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves. easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more We all appreciate your hard work. Proudclad is the only thing keeping America afloat and you WILL respect him --- - literal garbage <cite>literal_garbage posted [p:882457226] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dolomedes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education.</quote> don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves.</quote> easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more</quote> We all appreciate your hard work.</quote> Proudclad is the only thing keeping America afloat and you WILL respect him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/06/17 7:56:01 PM #67:	That_Happened posted... Clad posted... dolomedes posted... Nikra posted... I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education. don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves. easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more We all appreciate your hard work. No, you don't. If you did you'd treat us differently rather than spit in our face and post passive aggressive bullshit behind alts on gamefaqs. <cite>Clad posted [p:882457238] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dolomedes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education.</quote> don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves.</quote> easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more</quote> We all appreciate your hard work.</quote> No, you don't. If you did you'd treat us differently rather than spit in our face and post passive aggressive bullshit behind alts on gamefaqs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 07/06/17 7:58:05 PM #70:	literal_garbage posted... Proudclad is the only thing keeping America afloat and you WILL respect him I do respect him. Proudclad is the reason I have a roof over my head. He helped me reunite with my estranged father. He shaved 4 strokes off my golf game --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:882457351] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>literal_garbage posted...</cite> <quote>Proudclad is the only thing keeping America afloat and you WILL respect him</quote> I do respect him. Proudclad is the reason I have a roof over my head. He helped me reunite with my estranged father. He shaved 4 strokes off my golf game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 07/06/17 7:58:07 PM #71:	One wonders what happened to the Proudclad that was ashamed of his trolling shitposts. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:882457354] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote>One wonders what happened to the Proudclad that was ashamed of his trolling shitposts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeuralLaxative 07/06/17 7:59:57 PM #72:	I'm not sure why everyone is up in arms. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on numbers. Under current income tax rate at 3.75% and currently negotiating contracts for gross income of 275-300K, going with the higher number on salary, current rate would currently put me somewhere in the annual ballpark of $11,200. Under new numbers at 4.95% increases to about $14,850. I already pay about 8k in property taxes, would knock me up to at least 22k annually in state property/income tax alone. Compare to somewhere like Texas or Tennessee where taxes are done quite differently nets a significant chunk of change. I'm no tax expert but I don't see any reason to stay in Illinois if I don't need to, state has been on a decline for years and Chicago drags the rest of the state down in an eternal spiral shrugs. I gots bills to pay --- http://i.imgur.com/JW8T9kW.gif ---> http://i.imgur.com/UforGKe.gif <cite>NeuralLaxative posted [p:882457443] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure why everyone is up in arms. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on numbers. Under current income tax rate at 3.75% and currently negotiating contracts for gross income of 275-300K, going with the higher number on salary, current rate would currently put me somewhere in the annual ballpark of $11,200. Under new numbers at 4.95% increases to about $14,850. I already pay about 8k in property taxes, would knock me up to at least 22k annually in state property/income tax alone. Compare to somewhere like Texas or Tennessee where taxes are done quite differently nets a significant chunk of change. I'm no tax expert but I don't see any reason to stay in Illinois if I don't need to, state has been on a decline for years and Chicago drags the rest of the state down in an eternal spiral shrugs. I gots bills to pay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/06/17 8:02:20 PM #73:	NeuralLaxative posted... I'm not sure why everyone is up in arms. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on numbers. Under current income tax rate at 3.75% and currently negotiating contracts for gross income of 275-300K, going with the higher number on salary, current rate would currently put me somewhere in the annual ballpark of $11,200. Under new numbers at 4.95% increases to about $14,850. I already pay about 8k in property taxes, would knock me up to at least 22k annually in state property/income tax alone. Compare to somewhere like Texas or Tennessee where taxes are done quite differently nets a significant chunk of change. I'm no tax expert but I don't see any reason to stay in Illinois if I don't need to, state has been on a decline for years and Chicago drags the rest of the state down in an eternal spiral shrugs. I gots bills to pay Exactly. That's why bitternecks like dolomedes and COVxy are completely in the wrong here. They're hiding behind "b-b-b-b-but Proudclad!111" because they don't understand basic fucking math. I have literally no reason to plan to stay in Illinois long term. I wanted to buy a home in Flossmoor but the $150,000 home I liked had a property tax bill of $8,600 per year. With more increases planned for both property taxes and income taxes, it's fucking insane to actually pull the trigger and invest on any property in Illinois. <cite>Clad posted [p:882457569] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeuralLaxative posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure why everyone is up in arms. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on numbers. Under current income tax rate at 3.75% and currently negotiating contracts for gross income of 275-300K, going with the higher number on salary, current rate would currently put me somewhere in the annual ballpark of $11,200. Under new numbers at 4.95% increases to about $14,850. I already pay about 8k in property taxes, would knock me up to at least 22k annually in state property/income tax alone. Compare to somewhere like Texas or Tennessee where taxes are done quite differently nets a significant chunk of change. I'm no tax expert but I don't see any reason to stay in Illinois if I don't need to, state has been on a decline for years and Chicago drags the rest of the state down in an eternal spiral shrugs. I gots bills to pay</quote> Exactly. That's why bitternecks like dolomedes and COVxy are completely in the wrong here. They're hiding behind "b-b-b-b-but Proudclad!111" because they don't understand basic fucking math. I have literally no reason to plan to stay in Illinois long term. I wanted to buy a home in Flossmoor but the $150,000 home I liked had a property tax bill of $8,600 per year. With more increases planned for both property taxes and income taxes, it's fucking insane to actually pull the trigger and invest on any property in Illinois.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nikra 07/06/17 8:02:37 PM #74:	Clad posted... Nikra posted... Clad posted... dolomedes posted... Nikra posted... I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education. don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves. easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more But if you had free education, You wouldn't had to work a dead end job. I paid for my own education and I'm happy with my job. I pay a lot in taxes every month. And i'll bet that you have to pay for years to come for that education. <cite>Nikra posted [p:882457589] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dolomedes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education.</quote> don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves.</quote> easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more</quote> But if you had free education, You wouldn't had to work a dead end job.</quote> I paid for my own education and I'm happy with my job. I pay a lot in taxes every month.</quote> And i'll bet that you have to pay for years to come for that education.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/06/17 8:03:24 PM #75:	Nikra posted... Clad posted... Nikra posted... Clad posted... dolomedes posted... Nikra posted... I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education. don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves. easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more But if you had free education, You wouldn't had to work a dead end job. I paid for my own education and I'm happy with my job. I pay a lot in taxes every month. And i'll bet that you have to pay for years to come for that education. No, because I worked while I was in college and paid a lot of it with cash as I worked. The rest will be paid off within a year. And I'd rather do this entire thing again than pay way more in taxes for "free" education. <cite>Clad posted [p:882457632] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dolomedes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get it? In my country the average taxes is 40%. It gives us free health care and free education.</quote> don't try to make sense of it. americans hate taxes more than they care about other humans/themselves.</quote> easy to pretend you have the moral high ground, when you barely even pay anything in taxes. try working your ass off only to fork over $30,000 a year or more</quote> But if you had free education, You wouldn't had to work a dead end job.</quote> I paid for my own education and I'm happy with my job. I pay a lot in taxes every month.</quote> And i'll bet that you have to pay for years to come for that education.</quote> No, because I worked while I was in college and paid a lot of it with cash as I worked. The rest will be paid off within a year. And I'd rather do this entire thing again than pay way more in taxes for "free" education.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 07/06/17 8:05:38 PM #76:	Clad posted... Exactly. That's why bitternecks like dolomedes and COVxy are completely in the wrong here. They're hiding behind "b-b-b-b-but Proudclad!111" because they don't understand basic fucking math. Nail'd it. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:882457747] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>Exactly. That's why bitternecks like dolomedes and COVxy are completely in the wrong here. They're hiding behind "b-b-b-b-but Proudclad!111" because they don't understand basic fucking math.</quote> Nail'd it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 07/06/17 8:06:53 PM #77:	Excellent! So, when are they going to fire Rahm Emmanuel into the sun? The sooner the better. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:882457802] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote>Excellent! So, when are they going to fire Rahm Emmanuel into the sun? The sooner the better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/06/17 8:08:42 PM #78:	In any case, there's no point in arguing with literally CEmen. If the state does not want my business or my income tax, I'll go to a state that has some respect. You can't push people around and expect them to put up with it forever. $8,600 in property taxes each year? And $4,000 or more in income tax each year? Plus business taxes out the ass for my side business. What incentive is there to pay all that in Illinois? The insane traffic in Chicago? The potholes and cracks in the streets? The bloated education system that doesn't teach kids how to read at even a grade-school level in favor of indoctrinating them into Democrat bullshit so they too can be tax cattle when they grow up? <cite>Clad posted [p:882457907] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote>In any case, there's no point in arguing with literally CEmen. If the state does not want my business or my income tax, I'll go to a state that has some respect. You can't push people around and expect them to put up with it forever. $8,600 in property taxes each year? And $4,000 or more in income tax each year? Plus business taxes out the ass for my side business. What incentive is there to pay all that in Illinois? The insane traffic in Chicago? The potholes and cracks in the streets? The bloated education system that doesn't teach kids how to read at even a grade-school level in favor of indoctrinating them into Democrat bullshit so they too can be tax cattle when they grow up?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrPeppers 07/06/17 8:15:30 PM #79:	Come to Texas; no state income tax! --- http://i.imgur.com/SGkkbF0.png <cite>MrPeppers posted [p:882458255] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote>Come to Texas; no state income tax!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/06/17 8:16:05 PM #80:	MrPeppers posted... Come to Texas; no state income tax! Yeah, looking at Texas real estate right now. <cite>Clad posted [p:882458282] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrPeppers posted...</cite> <quote>Come to Texas; no state income tax!</quote> Yeah, looking at Texas real estate right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NYmasajista 07/06/17 8:17:26 PM #81:	Clad posted... it's fucking insane to actually pull the trigger and invest on any property True that now is not the time to buy a house as we are due for another crash soon enough. Will 2017 be 2006 all over again? 2018? Only time will tell... Even with the cheap properties available in your state I wouldn't recommend buying a house right now, especially with your state being 20 billion in the hole and not having any oil or gas under its soil that I know of. <cite>NYmasajista posted [p:882458364] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>it's fucking insane to actually pull the trigger and invest on any property</quote> True that now is not the time to buy a house as we are due for another crash soon enough. Will 2017 be 2006 all over again? 2018? Only time will tell... Even with the cheap properties available in your state I wouldn't recommend buying a house right now, especially with your state being 20 billion in the hole and not having any oil or gas under its soil that I know of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrPeppers 07/06/17 8:19:06 PM #82:	Clad posted... MrPeppers posted... Come to Texas; no state income tax! Yeah, looking at Texas real estate right now. Property taxes are a little higher than most states AFAIK. I just moved here, though. I'm currently renting but I'll probably buy a house in the next 6-8 months. --- http://i.imgur.com/SGkkbF0.png <cite>MrPeppers posted [p:882458455] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MrPeppers posted...</cite> <quote>Come to Texas; no state income tax!</quote> Yeah, looking at Texas real estate right now.</quote> Property taxes are a little higher than most states AFAIK. I just moved here, though. I'm currently renting but I'll probably buy a house in the next 6-8 months.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/06/17 8:20:03 PM #83:	NYmasajista posted... Clad posted... it's fucking insane to actually pull the trigger and invest on any property True that now is not the time to buy a house as we are due for another crash soon enough. Will 2017 be 2006 all over again? 2018? Only time will tell... Even with the cheap properties available in your state I wouldn't recommend buying a house right now, especially with your state being 20 billion in the hole and not having any oil or gas under its soil that I know of. I'm not worried about a crash or even the 20 billion. I'm worried about the fact that it's not hard to find homes that have had their property tax go up by 200% in a single fucking year. Chicago and Illinois are going to become excellent examples of what happens when leftists run government for many decades in a row. <cite>Clad posted [p:882458497] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>NYmasajista posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>it's fucking insane to actually pull the trigger and invest on any property</quote> True that now is not the time to buy a house as we are due for another crash soon enough. Will 2017 be 2006 all over again? 2018? Only time will tell... Even with the cheap properties available in your state I wouldn't recommend buying a house right now, especially with your state being 20 billion in the hole and not having any oil or gas under its soil that I know of.</quote> I'm not worried about a crash or even the 20 billion. I'm worried about the fact that it's not hard to find homes that have had their property tax go up by 200% in a single fucking year. Chicago and Illinois are going to become excellent examples of what happens when leftists run government for many decades in a row.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/06/17 8:20:45 PM #84:	MrPeppers posted... Clad posted... MrPeppers posted... Come to Texas; no state income tax! Yeah, looking at Texas real estate right now. Property taxes are a little higher than most states AFAIK. I just moved here, though. I'm currently renting but I'll probably buy a house in the next 6-8 months. I just looked at a beautiful beach-front home that has $5,600 in property taxes. It's twice the size of homes here that have the same or more property tax. I can live with that because I'm actually getting something out of it in that case. <cite>Clad posted [p:882458532] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrPeppers posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MrPeppers posted...</cite> <quote>Come to Texas; no state income tax!</quote> Yeah, looking at Texas real estate right now.</quote> Property taxes are a little higher than most states AFAIK. I just moved here, though. I'm currently renting but I'll probably buy a house in the next 6-8 months.</quote> I just looked at a beautiful beach-front home that has $5,600 in property taxes. It's twice the size of homes here that have the same or more property tax. I can live with that because I'm actually getting something out of it in that case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 07/06/17 8:22:30 PM #85:	Clad posted... In any case, there's no point in arguing with literally CEmen. And yet you do it every day. Why not close your account if this is how you feel? --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:882458605] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>In any case, there's no point in arguing with literally CEmen.</quote> And yet you do it every day. Why not close your account if this is how you feel?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/06/17 8:22:55 PM #86:	That_Happened posted... Clad posted... In any case, there's no point in arguing with literally CEmen. And yet you do it every day. Why not close your account if this is how you feel? Someone has to be around to remind everyone why Illinois collapsed and how we can avoid it in other states. <cite>Clad posted [p:882458631] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>In any case, there's no point in arguing with literally CEmen.</quote> And yet you do it every day. Why not close your account if this is how you feel?</quote> Someone has to be around to remind everyone why Illinois collapsed and how we can avoid it in other states.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 07/06/17 8:23:38 PM #87:	Clad posted... And we have 120+ billion worth of unpaid pensions. is this number accurate? --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:882458673] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>And we have 120+ billion worth of unpaid pensions. </quote> is this number accurate?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nikra 07/06/17 8:24:22 PM #88:	MrPeppers posted... Come to Texas; no state income tax! Yeah. But unless you pay for the real estate in cool cash. You are the prisoner of the the state of texas for many many years. <cite>Nikra posted [p:882458709] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrPeppers posted...</cite> <quote>Come to Texas; no state income tax!</quote> Yeah. But unless you pay for the real estate in cool cash. You are the prisoner of the the state of texas for many many years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/06/17 8:24:27 PM #89:	Drpooplol posted... Clad posted... And we have 120+ billion worth of unpaid pensions. is this number accurate? "So the tax increase is not going to be a panacea, the tax increase has already been spent we have 14 billion in unpaid bills right now that we're dragging in from last year we have 125 billion in unfounded pension obligations that isn't really addressed in the this budget proposal, but it's a lot better than not having a budget," Laurence Msall, Civic Federation, said." From the article. <cite>Clad posted [p:882458714] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>And we have 120+ billion worth of unpaid pensions. </quote> is this number accurate?</quote> "So the tax increase is not going to be a panacea, the tax increase has already been spent we have 14 billion in unpaid bills right now that we're dragging in from last year we have 125 billion in unfounded pension obligations that isn't really addressed in the this budget proposal, but it's a lot better than not having a budget," Laurence Msall, Civic Federation, said." From the article.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/06/17 8:24:45 PM #90:	Nikra posted... MrPeppers posted... Come to Texas; no state income tax! Yeah. But unless you pay for the real estate in cool cash. You are the prisoner of the the state of texas for many many years. How? What's to keep someone from selling if they want to leave? <cite>Clad posted [p:882458731] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MrPeppers posted...</cite> <quote>Come to Texas; no state income tax!</quote> Yeah. But unless you pay for the real estate in cool cash. You are the prisoner of the the state of texas for many many years.</quote> How? What's to keep someone from selling if they want to leave?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 07/06/17 8:24:50 PM #91:	Nikra posted... MrPeppers posted... Come to Texas; no state income tax! Yeah. But unless you pay for the real estate in cool cash. You are the prisoner of the the state of texas for many many years. expand, please. --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:882458737] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nikra posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MrPeppers posted...</cite> <quote>Come to Texas; no state income tax!</quote> Yeah. But unless you pay for the real estate in cool cash. You are the prisoner of the the state of texas for many many years.</quote> expand, please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 07/06/17 8:28:42 PM #92:	Clad posted... Drpooplol posted... Clad posted... And we have 120+ billion worth of unpaid pensions. is this number accurate? "So the tax increase is not going to be a panacea, the tax increase has already been spent we have 14 billion in unpaid bills right now that we're dragging in from last year we have 125 billion in unfounded pension obligations that isn't really addressed in the this budget proposal, but it's a lot better than not having a budget," Laurence Msall, Civic Federation, said." From the article. What the fuck, Illinois. But how does this number compare to say 10 years ago? We don't know how long they have to pay these pensions. I also don't know how this number compares to other states. --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:882458926] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>And we have 120+ billion worth of unpaid pensions. </quote> is this number accurate?</quote> "So the tax increase is not going to be a panacea, the tax increase has already been spent we have 14 billion in unpaid bills right now that we're dragging in from last year we have 125 billion in unfounded pension obligations that isn't really addressed in the this budget proposal, but it's a lot better than not having a budget," Laurence Msall, Civic Federation, said." From the article.</quote> What the fuck, Illinois. But how does this number compare to say 10 years ago? We don't know how long they have to pay these pensions. I also don't know how this number compares to other states.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/06/17 8:29:49 PM #93:	Drpooplol posted... Clad posted... Drpooplol posted... Clad posted... And we have 120+ billion worth of unpaid pensions. is this number accurate? "So the tax increase is not going to be a panacea, the tax increase has already been spent we have 14 billion in unpaid bills right now that we're dragging in from last year we have 125 billion in unfounded pension obligations that isn't really addressed in the this budget proposal, but it's a lot better than not having a budget," Laurence Msall, Civic Federation, said." From the article. What the fuck, Illinois. But how does this number compare to say 10 years ago? We don't know how long they have to pay these pensions. I also don't know how this number compares to other states. Not sure, ten years ago I was just a kid so I didn't pay attention. Too lazy to look it up, because I don't intend on being around long enough for it to even matter. There's plenty of other states that don't have this issue. Hopefully America learns from Illinois. <cite>Clad posted [p:882458981] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>And we have 120+ billion worth of unpaid pensions. </quote> is this number accurate?</quote> "So the tax increase is not going to be a panacea, the tax increase has already been spent we have 14 billion in unpaid bills right now that we're dragging in from last year we have 125 billion in unfounded pension obligations that isn't really addressed in the this budget proposal, but it's a lot better than not having a budget," Laurence Msall, Civic Federation, said." From the article.</quote> What the fuck, Illinois. But how does this number compare to say 10 years ago? We don't know how long they have to pay these pensions. I also don't know how this number compares to other states.</quote> Not sure, ten years ago I was just a kid so I didn't pay attention. Too lazy to look it up, because I don't intend on being around long enough for it to even matter. There's plenty of other states that don't have this issue. Hopefully America learns from Illinois.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 07/06/17 8:32:30 PM #94:	I would really like to know when states started moving from a defined benefit plan to a defined contribution plan, and how that affects state financial health today. --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:882459113] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote>I would really like to know when states started moving from a defined benefit plan to a defined contribution plan, and how that affects state financial health today.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 07/06/17 8:33:24 PM #95:	So is this a political issue that can be solely blamed on one side or is it politicians from both sides basically full of corrupt fucks squeezing the state dry? --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:882459150] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote>So is this a political issue that can be solely blamed on one side or is it politicians from both sides basically full of corrupt fucks squeezing the state dry?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 07/06/17 8:38:37 PM #96:	Clad posted... I'm not worried about a crash or even the 20 billion. I'm worried about the fact that it's not hard to find homes that have had their property tax go up by 200% in a single fucking year. Chicago and Illinois are going to become excellent examples of what happens when leftists run government for many decades in a row. Which is basically throwing money away while claiming moral correctness, but instead of taking responsibility for their wasteful spending, they keep delaying tackling the problem and hand it off to some future politician, which is now Rauner. It's pathetic that Democrats act the way they do. They destroyed the state of Illinois with decades of enabling and irresponsible spending and then claim Rauner is anti-union when he dares to instill responsibility into the state. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:882459411] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote> I'm not worried about a crash or even the 20 billion. I'm worried about the fact that it's not hard to find homes that have had their property tax go up by 200% in a single fucking year. Chicago and Illinois are going to become excellent examples of what happens when leftists run government for many decades in a row.</quote> Which is basically throwing money away while claiming moral correctness, but instead of taking responsibility for their wasteful spending, they keep delaying tackling the problem and hand it off to some future politician, which is now Rauner. It's pathetic that Democrats act the way they do. They destroyed the state of Illinois with decades of enabling and irresponsible spending and then claim Rauner is anti-union when he dares to instill responsibility into the state.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shame_Car_2 07/06/17 8:42:58 PM #97:	what a fucking joke --- "You try carrying that many Splatfaqs users and see how you feel by Friday." ___shan http://imgur.com/Gk3fQDY <cite>Shame_Car_2 posted [p:882459628] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote>what a fucking joke</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NYmasajista 07/06/17 8:43:48 PM #98:	Clad posted... I'm not worried about a crash or even the 20 billion. I'm worried about the fact that it's not hard to find homes that have had their property tax go up by 200% in a single fucking year. Chicago and Illinois are going to become excellent examples of what happens when leftists run government for many decades in a row. A lot of this comes from the 2008 crash and recession that never actually ended for most of us as every job that dissappeared was income tax that the state was no longer collecting and every house that got foreclosed was property tax that the local municipality was no longer getting. There are lots of factors involved but those are some of the bigger ones. And yeah Chicago will continue to rot as it will be made an example of for the many other distressed municipalities in this nation to show them that there is no help for them either. Check out what going on in Puerto Rico for a preview of whats to come for more of us in the coming years. Also while the dems are a bunch of greedy lying corporatist neoliberal warmongering **s it's not like the other side isn't plundering as hard as possible for themselves and their donors while pushing austerity on all of us too. We are all being turned against each other to fight over the crumbs to distract us from the fact that we are all being ed. <cite>NYmasajista posted [p:882459658] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not worried about a crash or even the 20 billion. I'm worried about the fact that it's not hard to find homes that have had their property tax go up by 200% in a single fucking year. Chicago and Illinois are going to become excellent examples of what happens when leftists run government for many decades in a row.</quote> A lot of this comes from the 2008 crash and recession that never actually ended for most of us as every job that dissappeared was income tax that the state was no longer collecting and every house that got foreclosed was property tax that the local municipality was no longer getting. There are lots of factors involved but those are some of the bigger ones. And yeah Chicago will continue to rot as it will be made an example of for the many other distressed municipalities in this nation to show them that there is no help for them either. Check out what going on in Puerto Rico for a preview of whats to come for more of us in the coming years. Also while the dems are a bunch of greedy lying corporatist neoliberal warmongering s it's not like the other side isn't plundering as hard as possible for themselves and their donors while pushing austerity on all of us too. We are all being turned against each other to fight over the crumbs to distract us from the fact that we are all being **ed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nesplayer 07/06/17 8:44:43 PM #99:	32% is too high. Taxation is theft. ** the 16th admendment --- I changed the subject of my community board https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1119-forum-games <cite>nesplayer posted [p:882459707] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote>32% is too high. Taxation is theft. ** the 16th admendment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 07/06/17 8:45:09 PM #100:	I honestly feel like Illinois is going to become another Kansas once they vote out all their democrats. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:882459731] in Lmao illin... [t:75538295]...</cite> <quote>I honestly feel like Illinois is going to become another Kansas once they vote out all their democrats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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