Current Events > How stupid are the people who think Andrew Cuomo would be a good dem candidate?

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He's like Hillary Clinton with worse policies and less charisma.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/07/andrew-cuomo-2020-trump-215348

“Look at his career, look at his work in New York,” said Jonathan Cowan, the president and founder of Third Way, a centrist think tank, and a former Cuomo advisor. “He is laying out a model for what it means to be a 21st-century Democrat. Our party is in a deep hole. You have to look around and say, ‘Who is succeeding? Who is doing it differently?’”

It’s not just Democrats who see Cuomo showing up on the radar. “I would say Cuomo is the one I am most nervous about,” said Michael Caputo, a longtime advisor to Trump who helped put together for an aborted Trump gubernatorial run against Cuomo in 2014, and helped lead the campaign for Carl Paladino, Cuomo’s 2010 Republican opponent. “Hillary Clinton wouldn’t take the gloves off. There isn’t a counterpunch Andrew Cuomo won’t throw.”

Subtly, however, Andrew Cuomo looks very much like someone doing the spadework to run for president. His speeches, like the one at the Hotel Trades Council headquarters, are increasingly laced with the kind of Big Themes that become the rhetorical cornerstones of presidential campaigns. He rails against Washington, contrasting the gridlock of Congress against his own relatively smooth management of the previously dysfunctional statehouse, the misplaced priorities of national Republicans against the steady progress he has made in Albany. Over the past several months, Cuomo has hired Chris Christie’s former chief of staff, a move widely seen as further burnishing his own bipartisan credentials; his aides have reached out to out-of-state donors about a possible fundraising swing later this year.
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When he at last became the second Cuomo to serve as governor of New York, by the standards of the state, he was barely a Democrat. It was in the depths of the Tea Party’s counter-revolt against Obama’s presidency; the state’s economic outlook was disastrous and Cuomo positioned himself firmly as a man of the center. He capped property taxes and let a tax on millionaires expire. He gathered a bunch of friends in the real estate industry to run an outside spending campaign on behalf of his agenda, rallied for charter schools, slashed pensions and the state workforce. If Spitzer had come to Albany as a crusader, cleaning out the ethically compromised and ridding the state of the Republicans who could slow his agenda, Cuomo signaled from the start that he was willing to work with the powers that be, so long as their powers didn’t get in his way. In 2011, when a group of moderate Democrats announced they were leaving their party’s conference in the state Senate to form an alliance with the Republicans, Cuomo signaled his tacit approval, in part because it meant that his veto pen wasn’t the only thing keeping restive downstate liberals from having the run of the state. He undercut liberal stalwarts like Attorney General Eric Schneiderman and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, trying to incorporate parts of their offices’ responsibilities into his own, and leaking gossipy and embarrassing details about them to the press.
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Cuomo also kept the plates spinning on the ever more complicated state Legislature, where Republicans need the breakaway Democrats to pass legislation. Cuomo figured out how to use the arrangement as a foil when convenient (Can’t pass a statewide DREAM Act with those Republicans in charge, sorry!) but getting his way whenever he put his shoulder to the legislative wheel. He set up a commission to investigate public corruption and used it to get lawmakers to pass ethics reform, then abruptly shut it down when the commission turned its sights on the governor’s office.

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Meanwhile, the NYC subway is in crisis under his watch and he's directing funds to other pet projects.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/cuomo-mta-funds-subway-cars-redirected-projects-article-1.3306998
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Antifar posted...

Look at his career

this seems to be the focus for DNC leadership: an emphasis on who has built the connections with the party establishment

not whose policy plans are what the population wants
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So who do you guys see as a viable contender?

What do you look for?
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i really want warren to run.
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People in my region really think Mitch Landrieu will run and win in 2020

haha
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I had a conversation with a politically-inclined friend of mine the other day

I mentioned how Cuomo is very transparently cozying up to Bernie and championing all this progressive stuff because he wants to run in 2020.

His reply? "Oh no he wants people to think he's a good progressive so he's acting like a good progressive."

Meh, can't argue with that. Still don't think he'd be a good candidate.
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Balrog0 posted...

People in my region really think Mitch Landrieu will run and win in 2020

haha

how can you tolerate living around such people
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would you believe that I actually like it here? there's a real charm to living in such a small state; everyone is a friend of a friend.

that landrieu stuff is just white southern dems being white southern dems, they don't know anything. you get used to it.
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Balrog0 posted...

everyone is a friend of a friend.

this is where we culturally differ that sounds horrible

maybe i'm just an asshole.
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Balrog0 posted...

that landrieu stuff is just white southern dems being white southern dems, they don't know anything. you get used to it.

i've spoken with a few people who are convinced that running Joe Manchin will win Democrats the white house again in 2020
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Doom_Art posted...

i've spoken with a few people who are convinced that running Joe Manchin will win Democrats the white house again in 2020

did you hit them
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Darkman124 posted...

did you hit them

i wanted to

but i pitied them instead
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They're the same people who thought the American electorate would coronate Hillary in a historic landslide just because Donald Trump was such a meanie and so unpresidential.
If Cuomo tries to run, I expect something similar to a Jeb! happening. He's uncharismatic and unpalatable to everyone outside of the wealthy donor class.

ElatedVenusaur posted...

If Cuomo tries to run, I expect something similar to a Jeb! happening.

This is a solid comparison.
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What we need is someone to run on Hillary's policy but isn't simultaneously a charisma blackhole, tbh. It's really as simple as that. Essentially another Obama.
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