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xBloodBrotherx
07/10/17 6:45:14 PM
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Or is it legit
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ThanksUglyGod
07/10/17 6:46:33 PM
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It's being overblown by the left who want Trump impeached, but it is a cause for concern.
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BLAKUboy
07/10/17 6:47:40 PM
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No, seeing as there's actually evidence for Russian collusion.
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TheVipaGTS
07/10/17 6:48:00 PM
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They're investigating whether Trump himself had knowledge of it or made contact with them. We know several people who have worked for his campaign or his current admin have.

Obama was born in Hawaii. There was no too secret cover up decades ago when he was born to fake that. He was born in Hawaii the year after it officially became a state. He wasn't a Kenyan born Muslim. Proof was available before Obama officially released his birth certificate.

The two aren't comparable.
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creativerealms
07/10/17 6:48:48 PM
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Trump is an Obama birther never forget that.
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Mr Sandbag
07/10/17 6:48:52 PM
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There is actually more evidence for he Kenyan thing.

Trump Russia is still batting a .000
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Antifar
07/10/17 6:49:02 PM
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The two aren't comparable.
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GhettoFlip
07/10/17 6:58:30 PM
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Mr Sandbag posted...
There is actually more evidence for he Kenyan thing.

Trump Russia is still batting a .000


It's literally the opposite
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Tmaster148
07/10/17 6:59:39 PM
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GhettoFlip posted...
Mr Sandbag posted...
There is actually more evidence for he Kenyan thing.

Trump Russia is still batting a .000


It's literally the opposite


At least posts like that make it easy to tell who should be ignored.
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Doom_Art
07/10/17 7:00:23 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
No, seeing as there's actually evidence for Russian collusion.

Antifar posted...
The two aren't comparable.

these
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Gamer99z
07/10/17 7:00:29 PM
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Mr Sandbag posted...
There is actually more evidence for he Kenyan thing.

Trump Russia is still batting a .000

Lmao
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prince_leo
07/10/17 7:00:43 PM
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there was not a legitimate investigation into obama being a kenyan muslim, so no
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Anteaterking
07/10/17 7:11:46 PM
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Even though I think it way overblown, Benghazi is a much better comparison as far as "legitimate" investigations are concerned.

Except in this case, you have the president's own party leading the committees that are performing the investigation.
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creativerealms
07/10/17 7:18:54 PM
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I doubt Trump knew anything about Russia hacking in the election and clearly the level of the hacking was not much. That's not why Trump won. No Trump won because the Republican party didn't want to lose it's majority control of the supreme court. Of course Hillary's support being to spread out also hurt. There was no one reason.

I may not like it but Trump did win fairly at least fair enough.

I believe the main reason people refuse to drop the Russia thing is because Trump refuses to drop the illegal votes things even though he won. Both sides need to drop this crap.
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TheVipaGTS
07/10/17 7:21:34 PM
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No the main reason is that we don't like the idea of people who hold major positions in our government colluding with foreign nations and allowing them to influence our elections. Whether it was Trump or not, if they determine that's what happened it's a huge concern. One of the major ones being what was that other nation promised in return for helping influence the election.

It is overblown for ratings. That much is obvious. But for what it is on the surface, if it's determined to be something that actually happened, no one should be ok with it.
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AngelsNAirwav3s
07/10/17 7:22:26 PM
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Easy to see who watches fake news in this topic
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StucklnMyPants
07/10/17 7:27:38 PM
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creativerealms posted...
I believe the main reason people refuse to drop the Russia thing is because Trump refuses to drop the illegal votes things even though he won. Both sides need to drop this crap.

Nah, Liberals refuse to drop it because they are big babies. It's all the have at this point trying to cling to anything and everything that could delegitimize Trump. If there's actual evidence of Trump-Russian collusion, then let's see it. But so far it's been accusations followed by, "well we need to investigate him, to see if he's done anything wrong".

Trump sucks, but damn it if I'm not tired of hearing almost everyday, "this new thing finally shows Trump was working with Russia".
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Doom_Art
07/10/17 7:29:44 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
If there's actual evidence of Trump-Russian collusion, then let's see it. But so far it's been accusations followed by, "well we need to investigate him, to see if he's done anything wrong".

you're not familiar with the process of an investigation are you
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Capn Circus
07/10/17 7:34:32 PM
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After Arpaio's 5 year investigation, it was determined Odumbo's birth certificate (that he took years to produce) was fraudulent.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/12/15/sheriff-joe-arpaio-probe-proves-obama-birth-certificate-fake/95500958/
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Anteaterking
07/10/17 7:41:40 PM
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creativerealms posted...
I doubt Trump knew anything about Russia hacking in the election and clearly the level of the hacking was not much. That's not why Trump won. No Trump won because the Republican party didn't want to lose it's majority control of the supreme court. Of course Hillary's support being to spread out also hurt. There was no one reason.

I may not like it but Trump did win fairly at least fair enough.

I believe the main reason people refuse to drop the Russia thing is because Trump refuses to drop the illegal votes things even though he won. Both sides need to drop this crap.


The main reason people refuse to drop the Russia thing is because every week we find out about a new meeting that senior Trump campaign officials "forgot" to put on their SF-86 with Russian nationals. It's not as if the new information has stopped, Trump has been vindicated, and yet people still bring it up.

Also, why do you feel comfortable saying "Clearly the level of hacking wasn't much"? Do you mean in terms of voting machines? A few months ago, people were confident that no such hacking was even close to happening. If you mean hacking period, what do you call the DNC stuff or the Podesta emails?

How do you think that you would get this information anyway? How open do you think the intelligence community/presidency would be on the extent of hacking?

I'm not saying "You should believe it happened!". I just don't understand the confidence.
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Antifar
07/10/17 7:46:02 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
After Arpaio's 5 year investigation, it was determined Odumbo's birth certificate (that he took years to produce) was fraudulent.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/12/15/sheriff-joe-arpaio-probe-proves-obama-birth-certificate-fake/95500958/

You gonna give the Russia truthers five years to investigate before dismissing them?
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1NfamousACE_2
07/10/17 7:47:10 PM
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The fact that people thought the US Government would allow someone who wasn't born an American citizen to become President is alarming.

Whether they actually believed it or not, they shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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TheVipaGTS
07/10/17 7:53:29 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
The fact that people thought the US Government would allow someone who wasn't born an American citizen to become President is alarming.

Whether they actually believed it or not, they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

They didn't even attempt to investigate it for 8 years. It was just some BS fear mongering about Kenya and Muslims that idiots fell for...and judging by some responses ITT they still believe it. A world power attempting to influence who leads another world power...impossible for them to believe. A half black man being from Hawaii? Impossible. We don't believe you you need more people! It's both sad and funny at the same time.
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1NfamousACE_2
07/10/17 7:58:36 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
The fact that people thought the US Government would allow someone who wasn't born an American citizen to become President is alarming.

Whether they actually believed it or not, they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

They didn't even attempt to investigate it for 8 years. It was just some BS fear mongering about Kenya and Muslims that idiots fell for...and judging by some responses ITT they still believe it. A world power attempting to influence who leads another world power...impossible for them to believe. A half black man being from Hawaii? Impossible. We don't believe you you need more people! It's both sad and funny at the same time.


Exactly, its sad and funny.

For instance, you can't become President if you're under 35. So why would the government allow someone who is 30 years old to run?
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marc55
07/10/17 8:01:33 PM
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didnt trump himself start all this by pretty much saying " hack us "
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cobain27
07/10/17 8:15:53 PM
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Honestly, Russia hacking the DNC emails is shitty, and probably had some effect on the election, but the main bit of it is how soo many people in the Trump administration have some ties to Russia. Which again, probably wouldn't have amounted to alll that much. It's really all of their subsequent actions in trying to cover up what was probably a fairly minor thing. There's the possibility of multiple counts of perjury and obstruction of justice to really high ranking people all because they have almost uniformly made everything surrounding the Russia investigation exponentially worse. They're not shooting themselves in the foot, they're shoving hand grenades up their asses.
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prince_leo
07/10/17 8:56:32 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
For instance, you can't become President if you're under 35. So why would the government allow someone who is 30 years old to run?

i'm reminded of Rush Holt who was 29 when he was elected as a senator, waited until he was 30 to get sworn in
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1NfamousACE_2
07/10/17 9:25:33 PM
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prince_leo posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
For instance, you can't become President if you're under 35. So why would the government allow someone who is 30 years old to run?

i'm reminded of Rush Holt who was 29 when he was elected as a senator, waited until he was 30 to get sworn in


Really? Never heard of this *To the Wiki-Mobile*!
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Villain
07/10/17 9:26:40 PM
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the pee tapes are the equivalent of birtherism
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Mr Sandbag
07/10/17 10:54:24 PM
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Antifar posted...
Capn Circus posted...
After Arpaio's 5 year investigation, it was determined Odumbo's birth certificate (that he took years to produce) was fraudulent.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/12/15/sheriff-joe-arpaio-probe-proves-obama-birth-certificate-fake/95500958/

You gonna give the Russia truthers five years to investigate before dismissing them?


Are you going to give us five years to investigate your molestation allegations before we dismiss them?
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Capn Circus
07/10/17 11:02:01 PM
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cobain27 posted...
Honestly, Russia hacking the DNC emails is shitty, and probably had some effect on the election, but the main bit of it is how soo many people in the Trump administration have some ties to Russia. Which again, probably wouldn't have amounted to alll that much. It's really all of their subsequent actions in trying to cover up what was probably a fairly minor thing. There's the possibility of multiple counts of perjury and obstruction of justice to really high ranking people all because they have almost uniformly made everything surrounding the Russia investigation exponentially worse. They're not shooting themselves in the foot, they're shoving hand grenades up their asses.


yMswyKg

Meanwhile, your post is full of "probably" and "possibly".

Take a break from fake, speculative news, and join us when this is all resolved in Trump's favor.
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Gorbachev
07/10/17 11:06:46 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
It's being overblown by the left who want Trump impeached, but it is a cause for concern.
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KronoCloud
07/10/17 11:07:25 PM
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Villain posted...
the pee tapes are the equivalent of birtherism


This is a more applicable comparison. No racial implications with pee tape accusations though.

Plus it's fun as hell to bust Trumps balls over it.
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Villain
07/10/17 11:27:21 PM
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Mr Sandbag posted...
Antifar posted...
Capn Circus posted...
After Arpaio's 5 year investigation, it was determined Odumbo's birth certificate (that he took years to produce) was fraudulent.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/12/15/sheriff-joe-arpaio-probe-proves-obama-birth-certificate-fake/95500958/

You gonna give the Russia truthers five years to investigate before dismissing them?


Are you going to give us five years to investigate your molestation allegations before we dismiss them?


People are accusing you of molestation?
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JohnLennon6
07/11/17 8:15:22 AM
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Doom_Art
07/11/17 12:05:17 PM
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Mr Sandbag posted...
Are you going to give us five years to investigate your molestation allegations before we dismiss them?

...wut
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Siaperaz
07/11/17 12:09:23 PM
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There is actually more evidence for Kenyan Obama.

Russian collusion evidence: None
Obama is Kenyan evidence: Almost none.
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E32005
07/11/17 12:10:03 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
It's being overblown by the left who want Trump impeached, but it is a cause for concern.

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JohnLennon6
07/11/17 12:20:45 PM
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How is it a cause for concern but the president not being born in the United States isn't?
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JohnLennon6
07/11/17 2:13:54 PM
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JohnLennon6 posted...
How is it a cause for concern but the president not being born in the United States isn't?

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E32005
07/11/17 2:35:45 PM
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JohnLennon6 posted...
JohnLennon6 posted...
How is it a cause for concern but the president not being born in the United States isn't?

@E32005

Lol wat
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JohnLennon6
07/11/17 7:08:54 PM
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E32005 posted...
JohnLennon6 posted...
JohnLennon6 posted...
How is it a cause for concern but the president not being born in the United States isn't?

@E32005

Lol wat

Are you just going to ignore my question?
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E32005
07/11/17 7:25:39 PM
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JohnLennon6 posted...
E32005 posted...
JohnLennon6 posted...
JohnLennon6 posted...
How is it a cause for concern but the president not being born in the United States isn't?

@E32005

Lol wat

Are you just going to ignore my question?

it doesnt make sense. who wasnt born in the us?
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BLAKUboy
07/11/17 7:26:40 PM
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E32005 posted...
who wasnt born in the us?

Ted Cruz.
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JohnLennon6
07/11/17 8:44:52 PM
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E32005 posted...
JohnLennon6 posted...
E32005 posted...
JohnLennon6 posted...
JohnLennon6 posted...
How is it a cause for concern but the president not being born in the United States isn't?

@E32005

Lol wat

Are you just going to ignore my question?

it doesnt make sense. who wasnt born in the us?

It was speculated that Obama wasn't born in the US. These speculations turned out to be mostly false, just like all this Trump and Russia BS.
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snovvlybub
07/11/17 8:47:33 PM
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one of these things is the product of racism and the other is treason so ???
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JohnLennon6
07/11/17 8:48:00 PM
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snovvlybub posted...
one of these things is the product of racism and the other is treason so ???

What was the point of this comment?
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Howl
07/11/17 8:48:29 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
It's being overblown by the left who want Trump impeached, but it is a cause for concern.


No it's not.
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JohnLennon6
07/11/17 8:50:49 PM
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Still waiting to hear how it's a cause for concern

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