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Mal_Fet 07/11/17 11:55:02 AM #51:	pinky0926 posted... Mal_Fet posted... pinky0926 posted... It's the Kremlin, you're never going to get anything approaching irrefutable evidence. How about ANY evidence? Forget irrefutable evidence for a second, do you have ANY evidence that she works for Putin, apart for how she also lives in the country of Russia? https://www.ft.com/content/38532856-6584-11e7-8526-7b38dcaef614 To support her case, Ms Veselnitskaya launched a lobbying campaign of her own that appeared to involve Russian officials. Last year, Dana Rohrabacher, a pro-Russian Republican congressman, told the FT that while he was in Moscow, Konstantin Kosachev, a senior member of Russia’s upper house, asked if he would “at least take a look at something that our prosecutors would like the Americans to know about”, related to the Magnitsky case. The congressman met senior Russian prosecutors who handed him a dossier that referred to materials filed in the Katsyv money laundering case. Ms Veselnitskaya touted around a film, The Magnitsky Act, accusing Mr Browder of concocting his story. She organised a premiere in the European Parliament, which was blocked by Mr Browder’s lawyers at the last minute. There’s no mystery about her background. I’d be surprised that anyone who had done due diligence would have agreed to meet her, considering her sketchy CV WILLIAM BROWDER, HEDGE FUND MANAGER According to court documents, Ms Veselnitskaya was repeatedly denied a visa to defend Mr Katsyv before securing “immigration parole”. Ms Veselnitskaya said she was later strip-searched at Heathrow on her way to New York. The film was eventually shown at the Newseum in Washington last June, four days after she met Donald Trump Jr and Mr Kushner. Angry Russians in the audience shouted “Shame!” and “Lies!” after it finished. Many of the allegations in the film, seen by the FT, were misleading or inaccurate. Mr Browder told the FT that it was part of a Kremlin “smear campaign” against him. “She had one clear, unequivocal objective in 2016, which was to repeal the Magnitsky Act,” Mr Browder said. Literally none of that suggests she was taking orders from the Russian government Being a lawyer and having to deal with government officials is standard no matter what country you're in. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882716886] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote> It's the Kremlin, you're never going to get anything approaching irrefutable evidence. </quote> How about ANY evidence? Forget irrefutable evidence for a second, do you have ANY evidence that she works for Putin, apart for how she also lives in the country of Russia?</quote> https://www.ft.com/content/38532856-6584-11e7-8526-7b38dcaef614 <quote>To support her case, Ms Veselnitskaya launched a lobbying campaign of her own that appeared to involve Russian officials. Last year, Dana Rohrabacher, a pro-Russian Republican congressman, told the FT that while he was in Moscow, Konstantin Kosachev, a senior member of Russia’s upper house, asked if he would “at least take a look at something that our prosecutors would like the Americans to know about”, related to the Magnitsky case. The congressman met senior Russian prosecutors who handed him a dossier that referred to materials filed in the Katsyv money laundering case. Ms Veselnitskaya touted around a film, The Magnitsky Act, accusing Mr Browder of concocting his story. She organised a premiere in the European Parliament, which was blocked by Mr Browder’s lawyers at the last minute. There’s no mystery about her background. I’d be surprised that anyone who had done due diligence would have agreed to meet her, considering her sketchy CV WILLIAM BROWDER, HEDGE FUND MANAGER According to court documents, Ms Veselnitskaya was repeatedly denied a visa to defend Mr Katsyv before securing “immigration parole”. Ms Veselnitskaya said she was later strip-searched at Heathrow on her way to New York. The film was eventually shown at the Newseum in Washington last June, four days after she met Donald Trump Jr and Mr Kushner. Angry Russians in the audience shouted “Shame!” and “Lies!” after it finished. Many of the allegations in the film, seen by the FT, were misleading or inaccurate. Mr Browder told the FT that it was part of a Kremlin “smear campaign” against him. “She had one clear, unequivocal objective in 2016, which was to repeal the Magnitsky Act,” Mr Browder said.</quote></quote> Literally none of that suggests she was taking orders from the Russian government Being a lawyer and having to deal with government officials is standard no matter what country you're in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 07/11/17 11:55:14 AM #52:	CruelBuffalo posted... Ammonitida posted... Antifar posted... Ammonitida posted... You do realize that collusion in this case refers to the dossier's allegation of possible treason in exchange for emails gained from the DNC hack. Being willing to accept damaging info that is not connected to an illegal hack is hardly collusion in that sense. Not illegal either. Being willing to accept damaging info from foreigners to sway an election is, in fact, illegal https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/884797581573935105 This is false. That refers to money, not illegal dealing with the Russians. No. It refers to things of value. I'm assuming receiving information harming another campaign is something "of value" Nope. It involves money. --- Russian Agent http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1477/86/1477860281404.jpg <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:882716895] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>You do realize that collusion in this case refers to the dossier's allegation of possible treason in exchange for emails gained from the DNC hack. Being willing to accept damaging info that is not connected to an illegal hack is hardly collusion in that sense. Not illegal either.</quote> Being willing to accept damaging info from foreigners to sway an election is, in fact, illegal https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/884797581573935105</quote> This is false. That refers to money, not illegal dealing with the Russians.</quote> No. It refers to things of value. I'm assuming receiving information harming another campaign is something "of value"</quote> Nope. It involves money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/11/17 11:55:20 AM #53:	Lol Mal is starting to border on "pathetic" right now --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:882716900] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote>Lol Mal is starting to border on "pathetic" right now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 07/11/17 11:55:24 AM #54:	Asherlee10 posted... I don't understand... why would he do this? Probably knew nyt was gonna post it so this way he tries to treat it as a "nothing burger" I'm assuming his lawyer wanted this as strategy <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:882716903] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't understand... why would he do this?</quote> Probably knew nyt was gonna post it so this way he tries to treat it as a "nothing burger" I'm assuming his lawyer wanted this as strategy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 07/11/17 11:55:51 AM #55:	Ammonitida posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Ammonitida posted... Antifar posted... Ammonitida posted... You do realize that collusion in this case refers to the dossier's allegation of possible treason in exchange for emails gained from the DNC hack. Being willing to accept damaging info that is not connected to an illegal hack is hardly collusion in that sense. Not illegal either. Being willing to accept damaging info from foreigners to sway an election is, in fact, illegal https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/884797581573935105 This is false. That refers to money, not illegal dealing with the Russians. No. It refers to things of value. I'm assuming receiving information harming another campaign is something "of value" Nope. It involves money. Except that's not what the line states. Show me where it says money. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:882716929] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>You do realize that collusion in this case refers to the dossier's allegation of possible treason in exchange for emails gained from the DNC hack. Being willing to accept damaging info that is not connected to an illegal hack is hardly collusion in that sense. Not illegal either.</quote> Being willing to accept damaging info from foreigners to sway an election is, in fact, illegal https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/884797581573935105</quote> This is false. That refers to money, not illegal dealing with the Russians.</quote> No. It refers to things of value. I'm assuming receiving information harming another campaign is something "of value"</quote> Nope. It involves money.</quote> Except that's not what the line states. Show me where it says money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 07/11/17 11:56:16 AM #56:	Can someone explain the situation to me? I've been out of the loop I guess. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:882716948] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote>Can someone explain the situation to me? I've been out of the loop I guess.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_OujiDoza_ 07/11/17 11:56:37 AM #57:	Jared Yates Sexton @JYSexton 18m I...worked on this story for a year...and...he just...he tweeted it out. I'm dying lmao --- R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime \|Brian-Dawkins\|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg. <cite>_OujiDoza_ posted [p:882716968] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><quote>Jared Yates Sexton @JYSexton 18m I...worked on this story for a year...and...he just...he tweeted it out.</quote> I'm dying lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 07/11/17 11:56:52 AM #58:	What a mess. --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:882716985] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote>What a mess.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/11/17 11:57:12 AM #59:	Asherlee10 posted... I don't understand... why would he do this? To pre-empt the NYT article that was going to be published whether he did so or not --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:882717002] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't understand... why would he do this?</quote> To pre-empt the NYT article that was going to be published whether he did so or not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 07/11/17 11:57:23 AM #60:	Mal_Fet posted... Literally none of that suggests she was taking orders from the Russian government Being a lawyer and having to deal with government officials is standard no matter what country you're in. She was mounting "a multipronged attack against the Magnitsky Act, an American law that blacklists suspected Russian human rights abusers. The law so enraged Mr. Putin that he retaliated by halting American adoptions of Russian children." Literally everything about it suggests she was backed by the Kremlin. The only thing missing is a written confession. So yeah like I said before: I feel like if Donny slapped you across the face you'd still argue that without a written confession it's likely his hand just accidentally brushed your cheek. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z316/CeliaOfTheSky/Pinky0926.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:882717015] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> Literally none of that suggests she was taking orders from the Russian government Being a lawyer and having to deal with government officials is standard no matter what country you're in.</quote> She was mounting "a multipronged attack against the Magnitsky Act, an American law that blacklists suspected Russian human rights abusers. The law so enraged Mr. Putin that he retaliated by halting American adoptions of Russian children." Literally everything about it suggests she was backed by the Kremlin. The only thing missing is a written confession. So yeah like I said before: <quote>I feel like if Donny slapped you across the face you'd still argue that without a written confession it's likely his hand just accidentally brushed your cheek.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 07/11/17 11:57:39 AM #61:	NibeIungsnarf posted... Can someone explain the situation to me? I've been out of the loop I guess. tl;dr Donald Trump's son had correspondence with Russian national interests to acquire dirt on Clinton, posted proof of it himself on twitter. Is claiming it doesn't matter because the contact never actually had the dirt he claimed he had. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:882717032] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>Can someone explain the situation to me? I've been out of the loop I guess.</quote> tl;dr Donald Trump's son had correspondence with Russian national interests to acquire dirt on Clinton, posted proof of it himself on twitter. Is claiming it doesn't matter because the contact never actually had the dirt he claimed he had.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 07/11/17 11:57:53 AM #62:	_OujiDoza_ posted... Jared Yates Sexton @JYSexton 18m I...worked on this story for a year...and...he just...he tweeted it out. I'm dying lmao Rekt --- Cubs, Rockies, A's, Grizzlies, Bulls, Cowboys, Patriots. <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:882717041] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Jared Yates Sexton @JYSexton 18m I...worked on this story for a year...and...he just...he tweeted it out.</quote> I'm dying lmao</quote> Rekt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 07/11/17 11:58:14 AM #63:	ChromaticAngel posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... Can someone explain the situation to me? I've been out of the loop I guess. tl;dr Donald Trump's son had correspondence with Russian national interests to acquire dirt on Clinton, posted proof of it himself on twitter. Is claiming it doesn't matter because the contact never actually had the dirt he claimed he had. ....lol <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:882717061] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>Can someone explain the situation to me? I've been out of the loop I guess.</quote> tl;dr Donald Trump's son had correspondence with Russian national interests to acquire dirt on Clinton, posted proof of it himself on twitter. Is claiming it doesn't matter because the contact never actually had the dirt he claimed he had.</quote> ....lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/11/17 11:58:50 AM #64:	NibeIungsnarf posted... Can someone explain the situation to me? I've been out of the loop I guess. https://newrepublic.com/minutes/143812/donald-trump-jr-just-handed-smoking-gun-russia-trump-collusion-case To sum up: Goldstone explicitly states that the intelligence is coming from the Russian government. Goldstone also explicitly states that the Russian government supports Donald Trump in his race against Hillary Clinton. Trump Jr. gives the green light without hesitation. Then he invites Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner to the meeting, forwards them a copy of the email chain, and they attend. They meet with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a lawyer with ties to the Kremlin. (Amazingly, Goldstone offers to forward the invitation to Trump himself, through a secretary, which means Trump Jr., by responding to this offer of dirt with such celerity, might have unwittingly acted as a shield for his father.) So there you have it. Attempted collusion between the campaign and the Russians to sabotage Clinton’s candidacy. The evidence could hardly be more damning. The subject line of the email reads: “Russia - Clinton - private and confidential.” --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:882717093] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>Can someone explain the situation to me? I've been out of the loop I guess.</quote> https://newrepublic.com/minutes/143812/donald-trump-jr-just-handed-smoking-gun-russia-trump-collusion-case <quote>To sum up: Goldstone explicitly states that the intelligence is coming from the Russian government. Goldstone also explicitly states that the Russian government supports Donald Trump in his race against Hillary Clinton. Trump Jr. gives the green light without hesitation. Then he invites Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner to the meeting, forwards them a copy of the email chain, and they attend. They meet with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a lawyer with ties to the Kremlin. (Amazingly, Goldstone offers to forward the invitation to Trump himself, through a secretary, which means Trump Jr., by responding to this offer of dirt with such celerity, might have unwittingly acted as a shield for his father.) So there you have it. Attempted collusion between the campaign and the Russians to sabotage Clinton’s candidacy. The evidence could hardly be more damning. The subject line of the email reads: “Russia - Clinton - private and confidential.”</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 07/11/17 11:58:59 AM #65:	darkprince45 posted... _OujiDoza_ posted... Jared Yates Sexton @JYSexton 18m I...worked on this story for a year...and...he just...he tweeted it out. I'm dying lmao Rekt nah. in the journalism business, this is called being "scooped" not rekt --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:882717099] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkprince45 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Jared Yates Sexton @JYSexton 18m I...worked on this story for a year...and...he just...he tweeted it out.</quote> I'm dying lmao</quote> Rekt</quote> nah. in the journalism business, this is called being "scooped" not rekt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/11/17 11:59:17 AM #66:	NibeIungsnarf posted... Can someone explain the situation to me? I've been out of the loop I guess. A lawyer contacted the Trump campaign claiming she had info on Hillary Clinton. Trump Jr. and Manifort went to see her, and it turned out she was full of it, so they left. Now in an effort to cling onto what little credibility they have, CNN is using the fact that the lawyer lives in Russia to insist that they were right all along about Trump being cozy with the Russian government...even though the lawyer doesn't actually work for the Russian government. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882717115] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>Can someone explain the situation to me? I've been out of the loop I guess.</quote> A lawyer contacted the Trump campaign claiming she had info on Hillary Clinton. Trump Jr. and Manifort went to see her, and it turned out she was full of it, so they left. Now in an effort to cling onto what little credibility they have, CNN is using the fact that the lawyer lives in Russia to insist that they were right all along about Trump being cozy with the Russian government...even though the lawyer doesn't actually work for the Russian government.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_OujiDoza_ 07/11/17 12:00:29 PM #67:	darkprince45 posted... _OujiDoza_ posted... Jared Yates Sexton @JYSexton 18m I...worked on this story for a year...and...he just...he tweeted it out. I'm dying lmao Rekt Jared Yates Sexton @JYSexton 8m Replying to @JYSexton Like, so many people out there were trying to track this down. And it just...got delivered on a tweet. What the hell. I'm DEAD. --- R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime \|Brian-Dawkins\|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg. <cite>_OujiDoza_ posted [p:882717162] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkprince45 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Jared Yates Sexton @JYSexton 18m I...worked on this story for a year...and...he just...he tweeted it out.</quote> I'm dying lmao</quote> Rekt</quote> <quote>Jared Yates Sexton @JYSexton 8m Replying to @JYSexton Like, so many people out there were trying to track this down. And it just...got delivered on a tweet. What the hell.</quote> I'm DEAD.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/11/17 12:00:50 PM #68:	Antifar posted... They meet with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a lawyer with ties to the Kremlin. Fake news. When will you guys stop letting yourselves get duped? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882717180] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>They meet with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a lawyer with ties to the Kremlin.</quote> Fake news. When will you guys stop letting yourselves get duped?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 07/11/17 12:02:36 PM #71:	fenderbender321 posted... If this isn't a non-story, would anyone be willing to wager their account that Trump will get impeached or legally punished for this? Impeach Trump's son from what, exactly? --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:882717265] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>If this isn't a non-story, would anyone be willing to wager their account that Trump will get impeached or legally punished for this?</quote> Impeach Trump's son from what, exactly?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/11/17 12:02:53 PM #72:	Mal_Fet posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... Can someone explain the situation to me? I've been out of the loop I guess. A lawyer contacted the Trump campaign claiming she had info on Hillary Clinton. Trump Jr. and Manifort went to see her, and it turned out she was full of it, so they left. Now in an effort to cling onto what little credibility they have, CNN is using the fact that the lawyer lives in Russia to insist that they were right all along about Trump being cozy with the Russian government...even though the lawyer doesn't actually work for the Russian government. So is that yes or no that Trump Jr went to this meeting believing a Kremlin-backed lawyer had dirt on Clinton? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:882717278] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>Can someone explain the situation to me? I've been out of the loop I guess.</quote> A lawyer contacted the Trump campaign claiming she had info on Hillary Clinton. Trump Jr. and Manifort went to see her, and it turned out she was full of it, so they left. Now in an effort to cling onto what little credibility they have, CNN is using the fact that the lawyer lives in Russia to insist that they were right all along about Trump being cozy with the Russian government...even though the lawyer doesn't actually work for the Russian government.</quote> So is that yes or no that Trump Jr went to this meeting believing a Kremlin-backed lawyer had dirt on Clinton?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/11/17 12:03:44 PM #73:	fenderbender321 posted... If this isn't a non-story, would anyone be willing to wager their account that Trump will get impeached or legally punished for this? Trump won't be legally punished because Republicans are the only ones with the power to punish him, and they would abide far worse than this before thinking about acting against him. But that does not make it a non-story. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:882717313] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>If this isn't a non-story, would anyone be willing to wager their account that Trump will get impeached or legally punished for this?</quote> Trump won't be legally punished because Republicans are the only ones with the power to punish him, and they would abide far worse than this before thinking about acting against him. But that does not make it a non-story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/11/17 12:03:52 PM #74:	hockeybub89 posted... Kremlin-backed lawyer No one has shown evidence of this being true. Stop equating wishful thinking for truth ffs. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882717321] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Kremlin-backed lawyer</quote> No one has shown evidence of this being true. Stop equating wishful thinking for truth ffs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 07/11/17 12:03:53 PM #75:	So... he was trying to get dirt from the Russians... but they didn't actually have any. Does he think that means he didn't do anything wrong? Does the dullard not understand what "intent" means? If I go into an Arby's with the intent of robbing them and finding out they have no money in the cash register... I still would have done something wrong. I think Trump's whole family is going to wind up in prison eventually (except for Melania) if they keep making good life choices like this. --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:882717323] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote>So... he was trying to get dirt from the Russians... but they didn't actually have any. Does he think that means he didn't do anything wrong? Does the dullard not understand what "intent" means? If I go into an Arby's with the intent of robbing them and finding out they have no money in the cash register... I still would have done something wrong. I think Trump's whole family is going to wind up in prison eventually (except for Melania) if they keep making good life choices like this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 07/11/17 12:03:56 PM #76:	hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... Can someone explain the situation to me? I've been out of the loop I guess. A lawyer contacted the Trump campaign claiming she had info on Hillary Clinton. Trump Jr. and Manifort went to see her, and it turned out she was full of it, so they left. Now in an effort to cling onto what little credibility they have, CNN is using the fact that the lawyer lives in Russia to insist that they were right all along about Trump being cozy with the Russian government...even though the lawyer doesn't actually work for the Russian government. So is that yes or no that Trump Jr went to this meeting believing a Kremlin-backed lawyer had dirt on Clinton? You can't prove it unless Trump Jnr took a selfie holding the email with his signature and passport all in frame --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z316/CeliaOfTheSky/Pinky0926.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:882717325] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>Can someone explain the situation to me? I've been out of the loop I guess.</quote> A lawyer contacted the Trump campaign claiming she had info on Hillary Clinton. Trump Jr. and Manifort went to see her, and it turned out she was full of it, so they left. Now in an effort to cling onto what little credibility they have, CNN is using the fact that the lawyer lives in Russia to insist that they were right all along about Trump being cozy with the Russian government...even though the lawyer doesn't actually work for the Russian government.</quote> So is that yes or no that Trump Jr went to this meeting believing a Kremlin-backed lawyer had dirt on Clinton?</quote> You can't prove it unless Trump Jnr took a selfie holding the email with his signature and passport all in frame</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 07/11/17 12:04:50 PM #78:	pinky0926 posted... You can't prove it unless Trump Jnr took a selfie holding the email with his signature and passport all in frame Or if you can show in any way shape or form that this lawyer was working for the Russian government. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882717375] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>You can't prove it unless Trump Jnr took a selfie holding the email with his signature and passport all in frame</quote> Or if you can show in any way shape or form that this lawyer was working for the Russian government.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/11/17 12:06:06 PM #79:	Mal the nonpartisan independent libertarian who hates both sides equally is sure strongly defending Trump --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:882717426] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote>Mal the nonpartisan independent libertarian who hates both sides equally is sure strongly defending Trump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 07/11/17 12:06:20 PM #80:	Mal_Fet posted... pinky0926 posted... You can't prove it unless Trump Jnr took a selfie holding the email with his signature and passport all in frame Or if you can show in any way shape or form that this lawyer was working for the Russian government. When a senior lawyer's career record is in the form of being a pitbull for Putin's platform, what do you suppose that means? Coincidence? lmao --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z316/CeliaOfTheSky/Pinky0926.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:882717441] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>You can't prove it unless Trump Jnr took a selfie holding the email with his signature and passport all in frame</quote> Or if you can show in any way shape or form that this lawyer was working for the Russian government.</quote> When a senior lawyer's career record is in the form of being a pitbull for Putin's platform, what do you suppose that means? Coincidence? lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 07/11/17 12:06:28 PM #81:	OpheliaAdenade posted... So... he was trying to get dirt from the Russians... but they didn't actually have any. Does he think that means he didn't do anything wrong? Does the dullard not understand what "intent" means? If I go into an Arby's with the intent of robbing them and finding out they have no money in the cash register... I still would have done something wrong. I think Trump's whole family is going to wind up in prison eventually (except for Melania) if they keep making good life choices like this. Can't wait to see Mal_Fet brush this off with "but he didn't do anything wrong! you can't charge people for thinking something, that's thought-crimes levels of fucked up!" --- And outside it's ninety-two degrees, and KROQ is playing Siouxsie and the Banshees. Currently playing: OSRS, Final Fantasy V <cite>MrMallard posted [p:882717450] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote>So... he was trying to get dirt from the Russians... but they didn't actually have any. Does he think that means he didn't do anything wrong? Does the dullard not understand what "intent" means? If I go into an Arby's with the intent of robbing them and finding out they have no money in the cash register... I still would have done something wrong. I think Trump's whole family is going to wind up in prison eventually (except for Melania) if they keep making good life choices like this.</quote> Can't wait to see Mal_Fet brush this off with "but he didn't do anything wrong! you can't charge people for thinking something, that's thought-crimes levels of fucked up!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 07/11/17 12:06:37 PM #83:	Doom_Art posted... Mal the nonpartisan independent libertarian who hates both sides equally is sure strongly defending Trump No, I hate the DNC way more than I hate Trump right now. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882717460] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Mal the nonpartisan independent libertarian who hates both sides equally is sure strongly defending Trump</quote> No, I hate the DNC way more than I hate Trump right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Siaperaz 07/11/17 12:07:15 PM #84:	Do all liberals wear tinfoil hats? --- GO KNICKS!!! <cite>Siaperaz posted [p:882717511] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote>Do all liberals wear tinfoil hats?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/11/17 12:07:43 PM #85:	fenderbender321 posted... So why is it wrong for candidates to try and find dirt on their opponents? When it comes from someone with ties to a foreign government, that raises legal issues. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:882717533] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>So why is it wrong for candidates to try and find dirt on their opponents?</quote> When it comes from someone with ties to a foreign government, that raises legal issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/11/17 12:08:06 PM #86:	MrMallard posted... OpheliaAdenade posted... So... he was trying to get dirt from the Russians... but they didn't actually have any. Does he think that means he didn't do anything wrong? Does the dullard not understand what "intent" means? If I go into an Arby's with the intent of robbing them and finding out they have no money in the cash register... I still would have done something wrong. I think Trump's whole family is going to wind up in prison eventually (except for Melania) if they keep making good life choices like this. Can't wait to see Mal_Fet brush this off with "but he didn't do anything wrong! you can't charge people for thinking something, that's thought-crimes levels of fucked up!" You guys might have a point if the law against theft were at all comparable to the law against utilizing foreign connections in a political campaign. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882717553] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrMallard posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote>So... he was trying to get dirt from the Russians... but they didn't actually have any. Does he think that means he didn't do anything wrong? Does the dullard not understand what "intent" means? If I go into an Arby's with the intent of robbing them and finding out they have no money in the cash register... I still would have done something wrong. I think Trump's whole family is going to wind up in prison eventually (except for Melania) if they keep making good life choices like this.</quote> Can't wait to see Mal_Fet brush this off with "but he didn't do anything wrong! you can't charge people for thinking something, that's thought-crimes levels of fucked up!"</quote> You guys might have a point if the law against theft were at all comparable to the law against utilizing foreign connections in a political campaign.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 07/11/17 12:08:20 PM #87:	Mal_Fet posted... Ruvan22 posted... Back during the inauguration speech crowd debate, you claimed the tape had been altered/time lapsed. You can't defend fake news with more fake news. Just accept that there's no reason to believe a meeting with any Russian person constitutes collusion with the Russian government. Nice dodging - again, do you believe that anytime somebody makes a positive claim, they have to provide evidence? Because if so, you have not held up your own words on quite a few occasions. <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:882717563] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote> Back during the inauguration speech crowd debate, you claimed the tape had been altered/time lapsed. </quote> You can't defend fake news with more fake news. Just accept that there's no reason to believe a meeting with any Russian person constitutes collusion with the Russian government.</quote> Nice dodging - again, do you believe that anytime somebody makes a positive claim, they have to provide evidence? Because if so, you have not held up your own words on quite a few occasions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 07/11/17 12:08:37 PM #88:	fenderbender321 posted... So why is it wrong for candidates to try and find dirt on their opponents? Literally every candidate seeks it out. I think the defining factor in this controversy is that another country is providing the dirt, thus interfering with the election of another country. Which is shady and underhanded as fuck, and pretty damn illegal for the colluding party. --- And outside it's ninety-two degrees, and KROQ is playing Siouxsie and the Banshees. Currently playing: OSRS, Final Fantasy V <cite>MrMallard posted [p:882717585] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>So why is it wrong for candidates to try and find dirt on their opponents? Literally every candidate seeks it out.</quote> I think the defining factor in this controversy is that another country is providing the dirt, thus interfering with the election of another country. Which is shady and underhanded as fuck, and pretty damn illegal for the colluding party.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/11/17 12:08:41 PM #89:	Antifar posted... When it comes from someone with ties to a foreign government, Fake News a k e N e w s --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882717587] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote> When it comes from someone with ties to a foreign government, </quote> Fake News a k e N e w s</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/11/17 12:08:51 PM #90:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... Kremlin-backed lawyer No one has shown evidence of this being true. Stop equating wishful thinking for truth ffs. Did Trump Jr think he was getting dirt on Clinton from the Kremlin though? Also, the lawyer having no connection is also not truth. We don't know I swear. Trump Jr could have gone to the meeting looking to meet an assassin and you'd allege no funny business was going on if the assassin was a fraud. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:882717594] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Kremlin-backed lawyer</quote> No one has shown evidence of this being true. Stop equating wishful thinking for truth ffs.</quote> Did Trump Jr think he was getting dirt on Clinton from the Kremlin though? Also, the lawyer having no connection is also not truth. We don't know I swear. Trump Jr could have gone to the meeting looking to meet an assassin and you'd allege no funny business was going on if the assassin was a fraud.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 07/11/17 12:10:06 PM #91:	fenderbender321 posted... So why is it wrong for candidates to try and find dirt on their opponents? Literally every candidate seeks it out. It isn't wrong as long as the information is obtained legally. Getting it from a foreign agent isn't legal, and despite that Junior over here was jumping at the chance to get some dirt for his dad to use. What an embarrassment. And the cuckservatives are already lining up to defend the nitwit. :u --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:882717652] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>So why is it wrong for candidates to try and find dirt on their opponents? Literally every candidate seeks it out.</quote> It isn't wrong as long as the information is obtained legally. Getting it from a foreign agent isn't legal, and despite that Junior over here was jumping at the chance to get some dirt for his dad to use. What an embarrassment. And the cuckservatives are already lining up to defend the nitwit. :u</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/11/17 12:10:21 PM #92:	Mal_Fet posted... No, I hate the DNC way more than I hate Trump right now. :o Mal isn't a nonpartisan who hates both sides equally? And examining your politics means you're not much of a libertarian either. So what are you? --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:882717665] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>No, I hate the DNC way more than I hate Trump right now. </quote> :o Mal isn't a nonpartisan who hates both sides equally? And examining your politics means you're not much of a libertarian either. So what are you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/11/17 12:10:26 PM #93:	Mal_Fet posted... Doom_Art posted... Mal the nonpartisan independent libertarian who hates both sides equally is sure strongly defending Trump No, I hate the DNC way more than I hate Trump right now. Because Trump is your fuck buddy. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:882717671] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Mal the nonpartisan independent libertarian who hates both sides equally is sure strongly defending Trump</quote> No, I hate the DNC way more than I hate Trump right now.</quote> Because Trump is your fuck buddy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 07/11/17 12:11:13 PM #94:	Mal_Fet posted... Antifar posted... When it comes from someone with ties to a foreign government, Fake News a k e N e w s This is the visual equivalent of blocking your ears and yelling "la la la la la you're wrong and i'm right la la la la la" You fucking child. --- And outside it's ninety-two degrees, and KROQ is playing Siouxsie and the Banshees. Currently playing: OSRS, Final Fantasy V <cite>MrMallard posted [p:882717709] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote> When it comes from someone with ties to a foreign government, </quote> Fake News a k e N e w s</quote> This is the visual equivalent of blocking your ears and yelling "la la la la la you're wrong and i'm right la la la la la" You fucking child.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim Kusanagi 07/11/17 12:11:28 PM #95:	Mal_Fet posted... The lawyer isn't connected to the Kremlin, nor did she have any information about Hillary. how does it feel to have had this disclaimer get killed so quickly Mal? --- Live to train. Train to fight. Fight to live. When you retire, think only on fighting. Take me away, I don't mind, but you better promise I'll be back in time! <cite>Kim Kusanagi posted [p:882717721] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>The lawyer isn't connected to the Kremlin, nor did she have any information about Hillary.</quote> how does it feel to have had this disclaimer get killed so quickly Mal?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/11/17 12:11:29 PM #96:	OpheliaAdenade posted... It isn't wrong as long as the information is obtained legally. Getting it from a foreign agent isn't legal, Ok, so what information did he obtain from this person and use in the campaign MrMallard posted... This is the visual equivalent of blocking your ears and yelling "la la la la la you're wrong and i'm right la la la la la" Antifar cannot show any evidence connecting the lawyer to the Russian govt. That's why he keeps ducking the question. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882717723] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote>It isn't wrong as long as the information is obtained legally. Getting it from a foreign agent isn't legal,</quote> Ok, so what information did he obtain from this person and use in the campaign <cite>MrMallard posted...</cite> <quote>This is the visual equivalent of blocking your ears and yelling "la la la la la you're wrong and i'm right la la la la la"</quote> Antifar cannot show any evidence connecting the lawyer to the Russian govt. That's why he keeps ducking the question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 07/11/17 12:12:19 PM #97:	Too bad all the libcucks have no proof she worked for the Russian government at all. Sad. --- woof <cite>Howl posted [p:882717771] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote>Too bad all the libcucks have no proof she worked for the Russian government at all. Sad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 07/11/17 12:12:44 PM #98:	None of the people on to catch a predator should be arrested because they didn't actually talk to minors - Mal <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:882717792] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote>None of the people on to catch a predator should be arrested because they didn't actually talk to minors - Mal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 07/11/17 12:13:46 PM #99:	CruelBuffalo posted... None of the people on to catch a predator should be arrested because they didn't actually talk to minors - Mal You can't prove they were predators they could have just been there for the garage sale --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z316/CeliaOfTheSky/Pinky0926.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:882717846] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>None of the people on to catch a predator should be arrested because they didn't actually talk to minors - Mal</quote> You can't prove they were predators they could have just been there for the garage sale</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/11/17 12:13:56 PM #100:	CruelBuffalo posted... None of the people on to catch a predator should be arrested because they didn't actually talk to minors - Talking to a Russian person is not illegal. Getting campaign information from them and then using that information in your campaign is. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882717854] in Donald Tru... [t:75553612]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>None of the people on to catch a predator should be arrested because they didn't actually talk to minors -</quote> Talking to a Russian person is not illegal. Getting campaign information from them and then using that information in your campaign is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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