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ChainedRedone 07/17/17 1:38:44 AM #1:	http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-17/australian-woman-shot-dead-by-police-in-minneapolis/8714330 The shooting of an Australian woman by US police has raised serious concerns after it was revealed the officers did not have their body cameras turned on. Justine Damond, aged 40, was shot dead in Minneapolis about 11:30pm local time on Saturday after two officers responded to a report of a possible assault. Her stepson Zach Damond, 22, said she called police after hearing a noise in the alleyway near their house in the suburb of Fulton. "At one point an officer fired their weapon, fatally striking a woman," the police department said. "Officers were dispatched. When officers responded, an officer-involved shooting occurred, which resulted in one adult female victim who is deceased and which has prompted our callout to the BCA [Bureau of Criminal Apprehension]. "The BCA will now further be conducting this investigation, this officer-involved shooting, from this point forward." Minneapolis Mayor Betsy Hodges said in a statement that she was "heartsick and deeply disturbed by the incident". "I'm seeking answers to the questions we all have, and will make sure to keep the communication flowing," she said. Ms Hodges said she understood the police body cameras and squad camera, which were introduced to the Minneapolis Police Department last year, were not switched on when the shooting occurred. The two officers involved have been placed on paid administrative leave, which is standard procedure. A rally organised by local activist Mel Reeves was held at the site of the shooting, while other community members gathered for a vigil in Ms Damond's neighbourhood. Local media say neighbours are mystified as to what occurred. Zach Damond spoke at the vigil calling for more information and transparency from the authorities. "Basically my mum is dead because a police officer shot her for reasons I don't know, and I demand answers," Mr Damond said. "I just know that she heard a sound in the alley so she called the police, and the cops showed up. "And she probably… thought something bad was happening and then the next thing, they take my best friend's life. "I'm so done with all this violence, it's so much bullshit. "America sucks, these cops need to be trained differently and I need to move out of here." --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:883057181] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-17/australian-woman-shot-dead-by-police-in-minneapolis/8714330 The shooting of an Australian woman by US police has raised serious concerns after it was revealed the officers did not have their body cameras turned on. Justine Damond, aged 40, was shot dead in Minneapolis about 11:30pm local time on Saturday after two officers responded to a report of a possible assault. Her stepson Zach Damond, 22, said she called police after hearing a noise in the alleyway near their house in the suburb of Fulton. "At one point an officer fired their weapon, fatally striking a woman," the police department said. "Officers were dispatched. When officers responded, an officer-involved shooting occurred, which resulted in one adult female victim who is deceased and which has prompted our callout to the BCA [Bureau of Criminal Apprehension]. "The BCA will now further be conducting this investigation, this officer-involved shooting, from this point forward." Minneapolis Mayor Betsy Hodges said in a statement that she was "heartsick and deeply disturbed by the incident". "I'm seeking answers to the questions we all have, and will make sure to keep the communication flowing," she said. Ms Hodges said she understood the police body cameras and squad camera, which were introduced to the Minneapolis Police Department last year, were not switched on when the shooting occurred. The two officers involved have been placed on paid administrative leave, which is standard procedure. A rally organised by local activist Mel Reeves was held at the site of the shooting, while other community members gathered for a vigil in Ms Damond's neighbourhood. Local media say neighbours are mystified as to what occurred. Zach Damond spoke at the vigil calling for more information and transparency from the authorities. "Basically my mum is dead because a police officer shot her for reasons I don't know, and I demand answers," Mr Damond said. "I just know that she heard a sound in the alley so she called the police, and the cops showed up. "And she probably… thought something bad was happening and then the next thing, they take my best friend's life. "I'm so done with all this violence, it's so much bullshit. "America sucks, these cops need to be trained differently and I need to move out of here."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 07/17/17 1:40:42 AM #2:	so it...doesn't say anything about how the shooting actually happened or what anyone was doing or anything ok --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:883057251] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>so it...doesn't say anything about how the shooting actually happened or what anyone was doing or anything ok</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsianFury2020 07/17/17 1:43:22 AM #3:	Turn the body cams off before you murder. Cops are getting smarter... --- Kaze no yo ni Hayaku! <cite>AsianFury2020 posted [p:883057361] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>Turn the body cams off before you murder. Cops are getting smarter...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/17/17 1:43:47 AM #4:	I made a topic about this earlier but nobody responded shrugs thronedfire2 posted... so it...doesn't say anything about how the shooting actually happened or what anyone was doing or anything ok http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/australian-woman-shot-dead-by-police-in-minneapolis/news-story/c70e5bd988eb4a995125da452e25d46c Justine Damond, 40, was killed in what police confirmed was an “officer-involved shooting” in the city’s Fulton neighbourhood after a 911 call was made. Minnesota newspaper The Star Tribune reports Ms Damond was dressed in her pyjamas when she went to the driver’s side door of the police vehicle that responded to the emergency call. She was talking to the driver when the officer in the passenger seat pulled out his gun and shot across his fellow officer. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:883057384] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>I made a topic about this earlier but nobody responded shrugs <cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote>so it...doesn't say anything about how the shooting actually happened or what anyone was doing or anything ok</quote> http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/australian-woman-shot-dead-by-police-in-minneapolis/news-story/c70e5bd988eb4a995125da452e25d46c <quote>Justine Damond, 40, was killed in what police confirmed was an “officer-involved shooting” in the city’s Fulton neighbourhood after a 911 call was made. Minnesota newspaper The Star Tribune reports Ms Damond was dressed in her pyjamas when she went to the driver’s side door of the police vehicle that responded to the emergency call. She was talking to the driver when the officer in the passenger seat pulled out his gun and shot across his fellow officer.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
megamanfreakXD 07/17/17 1:45:32 AM #5:	The two officers involved have been placed on paid administrative leave, which is standard procedure. --- http://i.imgur.com/jS8HuXy.jpg http://i.imgur.com/W23cMOU.png <cite>megamanfreakXD posted [p:883057452] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><quote>The two officers involved have been placed on paid administrative leave, which is standard procedure.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuyCarlPeterson 07/17/17 1:47:34 AM #6:	Darmik posted... She was talking to the driver when the officer in the passenger seat pulled out his gun and shot across his fellow officer. What in the hell happened for him to just shoot past his partner at a lady he was talking to? --- Father's dream; devour the twin. Sisters scream "for our sins." They'll cut their flesh to make amends, and grasp for ghosts that savior sends. <cite>GuyCarlPeterson posted [p:883057533] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>She was talking to the driver when the officer in the passenger seat pulled out his gun and shot across his fellow officer.</quote> What in the hell happened for him to just shoot past his partner at a lady he was talking to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 07/17/17 1:48:36 AM #7:	yeah I just feel like there's no way we're getting the whole story here. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:883057567] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>yeah I just feel like there's no way we're getting the whole story here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/17/17 1:50:10 AM #8:	GuyCarlPeterson posted... Darmik posted... She was talking to the driver when the officer in the passenger seat pulled out his gun and shot across his fellow officer. What in the hell happened for him to just shoot past his partner at a lady he was talking to? Maybe he got dazed and confused by her accent thronedfire2 posted... yeah I just feel like there's no way we're getting the whole story here. Tbh I can't think of a full story that's gonna justify shooting an Aussie lady in her PJ's. Maybe that she shouldn't have approached the car? Which sorta sucks for her since that's not an issue in Australia if you call the police. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:883057628] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>GuyCarlPeterson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>She was talking to the driver when the officer in the passenger seat pulled out his gun and shot across his fellow officer.</quote> What in the hell happened for him to just shoot past his partner at a lady he was talking to?</quote> Maybe he got dazed and confused by her accent <cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote>yeah I just feel like there's no way we're getting the whole story here.</quote> Tbh I can't think of a full story that's gonna justify shooting an Aussie lady in her PJ's. Maybe that she shouldn't have approached the car? Which sorta sucks for her since that's not an issue in Australia if you call the police.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 07/17/17 1:53:14 AM #9:	Fuck, our police are so incompetent/malicious. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac <cite>Esrac posted [p:883057742] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>Fuck, our police are so incompetent/malicious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 07/17/17 1:56:31 AM #10:	Darmik posted... Which sorta sucks for her since that's not an issue in Australia if you call the police. You mean there are countries where cops don't shoot you if walk up to their car? <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:883057870] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Which sorta sucks for her since that's not an issue in Australia if you call the police.</quote> You mean there are countries where cops don't shoot you if walk up to their car?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/17/17 1:57:02 AM #11:	ThanksUglyGod posted... Darmik posted... Which sorta sucks for her since that's not an issue in Australia if you call the police. You mean there are countries where cops don't shoot you if walk up to their car? No. That would be preposterous. --- Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:883057885] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> Which sorta sucks for her since that's not an issue in Australia if you call the police.</quote> You mean there are countries where cops don't shoot you if walk up to their car?</quote> No. That would be preposterous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 07/17/17 1:57:50 AM #12:	These police stories always remind me of this WKUK sketch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI64HjwhRAo --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:883057910] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>These police stories always remind me of this WKUK sketch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI64HjwhRAo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 07/17/17 1:58:01 AM #13:	ThanksUglyGod posted... Darmik posted... Which sorta sucks for her since that's not an issue in Australia if you call the police. You mean there are countries where cops don't shoot you if walk up to their car? Yeah man. Some countries also don't have cops that kill you for being black --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:883057917] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Which sorta sucks for her since that's not an issue in Australia if you call the police.</quote> You mean there are countries where cops don't shoot you if walk up to their car?</quote> Yeah man. Some countries also don't have cops that kill you for being black</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GAMER_X 07/17/17 1:59:45 AM #14:	Spoilers: she was actually one of australias giant aggressive spiders, which escaped and was masquerading as a woman. Thank god that officer saw through her evil ruse in time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mvmHwCxw5A --- "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888 <cite>GAMER_X posted [p:883057986] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>Spoilers: she was actually one of australias giant aggressive spiders, which escaped and was masquerading as a woman. Thank god that officer saw through her evil ruse in time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mvmHwCxw5A</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 07/17/17 2:00:42 AM #15:	Blue_Inigo posted... ThanksUglyGod posted... Darmik posted... Which sorta sucks for her since that's not an issue in Australia if you call the police. You mean there are countries where cops don't shoot you if walk up to their car? Yeah man. Some countries also don't have cops that kill you for being black Imagine that <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:883058016] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Which sorta sucks for her since that's not an issue in Australia if you call the police.</quote> You mean there are countries where cops don't shoot you if walk up to their car?</quote> Yeah man. Some countries also don't have cops that kill you for being black</quote> Imagine that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/17/17 2:03:53 AM #16:	I guess not as many people will defend this because it wasn't a black guy who got shot. So maybe we will see some justice. Or maybe they can look at why this sorta stuff keeps happening with American police and how it can be stopped. But I'm guessing neither of those things will happen. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:883058147] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>I guess not as many people will defend this because it wasn't a black guy who got shot. So maybe we will see some justice. Or maybe they can look at why this sorta stuff keeps happening with American police and how it can be stopped. But I'm guessing neither of those things will happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apocalyptic_4 07/17/17 2:24:25 AM #17:	What do police have to fear in these incidents? Early retirement and a payout? At this point everyone has to accept this as a normal occurrence that can happen to anyone. How fucking crazy is that. --- PSN: Adrian396 XBL: Prime Legacy Nintendo ID: Apocalypse <cite>apocalyptic_4 posted [p:883058886] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>What do police have to fear in these incidents? Early retirement and a payout? At this point everyone has to accept this as a normal occurrence that can happen to anyone. How fucking crazy is that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShinigamiSoul 07/17/17 6:48:28 AM #18:	apocalyptic_4 posted... What do police have to fear in these incidents? Early retirement and a payout? At this point everyone has to accept this as a normal occurrence that can happen to anyone. How fucking crazy is that. --- I dont want a sig! <cite>ShinigamiSoul posted [p:883064502] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>apocalyptic_4 posted...</cite> <quote>What do police have to fear in these incidents? Early retirement and a payout? At this point everyone has to accept this as a normal occurrence that can happen to anyone. How fucking crazy is that.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cartwheel_Kick 07/17/17 6:54:58 AM #19:	what a shitty country --- dude, you NEVER tell people about the girl you're banging. that's the fastest way to unbang her. -Steve Nick <cite>Cartwheel_Kick posted [p:883064633] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>what a shitty country</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GAMER_X 07/17/17 5:54:05 PM #20:	In all seriousness, if anything this particular instance just shows that the narrative of "police mindlessly shoot black people on site on a dime because they're black" is a load of bullshit Whats really going on is too many people that should never be cops (ie people with psych issues, former military that have the kind of ptsd where they have no control of their fight or flight due to severe trauma etc, and easily spooked people in general that aren't cut out for the job) are being hired as law enforcement, as well as people that are qualified not getting remotely enough proper training to actually be able to cope with the pressure and situations that that kind of job entails. Its sad that far too many people would rather jump on the victim/oppression train and obsessively insist its all a conspiracy against one group of people, but at the end of the day the reality is alot of cops in this country never should of ended up cops in the first place, and their training is also inexplicably quite poor and lacking. --- "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888 <cite>GAMER_X posted [p:883096036] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>In all seriousness, if anything this particular instance just shows that the narrative of "police mindlessly shoot black people on site on a dime because they're black" is a load of bullshit Whats really going on is too many people that should never be cops (ie people with psych issues, former military that have the kind of ptsd where they have no control of their fight or flight due to severe trauma etc, and easily spooked people in general that aren't cut out for the job) are being hired as law enforcement, as well as people that are qualified not getting remotely enough proper training to actually be able to cope with the pressure and situations that that kind of job entails. Its sad that far too many people would rather jump on the victim/oppression train and obsessively insist its all a conspiracy against one group of people, but at the end of the day the reality is alot of cops in this country never should of ended up cops in the first place, and their training is also inexplicably quite poor and lacking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 07/17/17 5:56:14 PM #21:	We need to put out public service announcements that you should never call the cops in America under any circumstances. This poor woman was Australian and thus she didn't know the danger she was in. It's sad <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:883096166] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>We need to put out public service announcements that you should never call the cops in America under any circumstances. This poor woman was Australian and thus she didn't know the danger she was in. It's sad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/17/17 5:58:07 PM #22:	NA cops This is another reason why Europe laughs at us Like we couldn't even bring up any of the negative shit about them because they had the whole "well how's your school shootings statistics going for ya" thing Now they have the police problem ammunition as well --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883096302] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>NA cops This is another reason why Europe laughs at us Like we couldn't even bring up any of the negative shit about them because they had the whole "well how's your school shootings statistics going for ya" thing Now they have the police problem ammunition as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 07/17/17 5:59:46 PM #23:	GAMER_X posted... In all seriousness, if anything this particular instance just shows that the narrative of "police mindlessly shoot black people on site on a dime because they're black" is a load of bullshit Racism and general recklessness are not mutually exclusive. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:883096404] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>GAMER_X posted...</cite> <quote>In all seriousness, if anything this particular instance just shows that the narrative of "police mindlessly shoot black people on site on a dime because they're black" is a load of bullshit</quote> Racism and general recklessness are not mutually exclusive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GAMER_X 07/17/17 6:05:36 PM #24:	Samurontai posted... NA cops This is another reason why Europe laughs at us Like we couldn't even bring up any of the negative shit about them because they had the whole "well how's your school shootings statistics going for ya" thing Now they have the police problem ammunition as well I take it you haven't ever seen the infamous gif of UK cops trying to subdue a man with a knife, where theres like 10-15 cops around this one guy with a knife and they're just running away from him everytime he gets close to them. Europe doesn't have anything to laugh about, they have alot more problems, in more areas. Their cop problem is their police are completely neutered. And we won't get into how parts of europe and the UK are literally 1984 fully realized. I'll take the US's problems over europes any day. --- "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888 <cite>GAMER_X posted [p:883096752] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>NA cops This is another reason why Europe laughs at us Like we couldn't even bring up any of the negative shit about them because they had the whole "well how's your school shootings statistics going for ya" thing Now they have the police problem ammunition as well</quote> I take it you haven't ever seen the infamous gif of UK cops trying to subdue a man with a knife, where theres like 10-15 cops around this one guy with a knife and they're just running away from him everytime he gets close to them. Europe doesn't have anything to laugh about, they have alot more problems, in more areas. Their cop problem is their police are completely neutered. And we won't get into how parts of europe and the UK are literally 1984 fully realized. I'll take the US's problems over europes any day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/17/17 6:06:32 PM #25:	GAMER_X posted... Samurontai posted... NA cops This is another reason why Europe laughs at us Like we couldn't even bring up any of the negative shit about them because they had the whole "well how's your school shootings statistics going for ya" thing Now they have the police problem ammunition as well I take it you haven't ever seen the infamous gif of UK cops trying to subdue a man with a knife, where theres like 10-15 cops around this one guy with a knife and they're just running away from him everytime he gets close to them. Europe doesn't have anything to laugh about, they have alot more problems, in more areas. Their cop problem is their police are completely neutered. And we won't get into how parts of europe and the UK are literally 1984 fully realized. I'll take the US's problems over europes any day. Wut I mean, everything you just posted is like... extremely minuscule in comparison to the trigger happy cops of America --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883096809] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>GAMER_X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>NA cops This is another reason why Europe laughs at us Like we couldn't even bring up any of the negative shit about them because they had the whole "well how's your school shootings statistics going for ya" thing Now they have the police problem ammunition as well</quote> I take it you haven't ever seen the infamous gif of UK cops trying to subdue a man with a knife, where theres like 10-15 cops around this one guy with a knife and they're just running away from him everytime he gets close to them. Europe doesn't have anything to laugh about, they have alot more problems, in more areas. Their cop problem is their police are completely neutered. And we won't get into how parts of europe and the UK are literally 1984 fully realized. I'll take the US's problems over europes any day.</quote> Wut I mean, everything you just posted is like... extremely minuscule in comparison to the trigger happy cops of America</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/17/17 6:06:55 PM #26:	And lol at the 1984 comparison Like... that literally implies to America as well, to the same extent as most of Europe --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883096833] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>And lol at the 1984 comparison Like... that literally implies to America as well, to the same extent as most of Europe</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GAMER_X 07/17/17 6:07:29 PM #27:	ChainedRedone posted... GAMER_X posted... In all seriousness, if anything this particular instance just shows that the narrative of "police mindlessly shoot black people on site on a dime because they're black" is a load of bullshit Racism and general recklessness are not mutually exclusive. No they're not, but the point is that the media and all these sjw groups try to paint the issue as being exclusively about a racist conspiracy, when that's a total load of crap. The hiring and training of our officers is just flat out categorically awful. --- "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888 <cite>GAMER_X posted [p:883096874] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GAMER_X posted...</cite> <quote>In all seriousness, if anything this particular instance just shows that the narrative of "police mindlessly shoot black people on site on a dime because they're black" is a load of bullshit</quote> Racism and general recklessness are not mutually exclusive.</quote> No they're not, but the point is that the media and all these sjw groups try to paint the issue as being exclusively about a racist conspiracy, when that's a total load of crap. The hiring and training of our officers is just flat out categorically awful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/17/17 6:10:37 PM #28:	Oh yeah, in America if they found the guy with a knife they'd have had a shootout with him that would have resulted in at least one innocent bystander being struck and killed in the crossfire (even though they were the only ones firing) because lol NA cops --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883097046] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah, in America if they found the guy with a knife they'd have had a shootout with him that would have resulted in at least one innocent bystander being struck and killed in the crossfire (even though they were the only ones firing) because lol NA cops</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GAMER_X 07/17/17 6:13:06 PM #29:	Samurontai posted... And lol at the 1984 comparison Like... that literally implies to America as well, to the same extent as most of Europe Maybe I'm crazy, but here in the US i don't have big brother watching me with cctv cameras on every corner, I can buy a goddamn kitchen knife without an id or age limit, I can criticize islam (or whatever else) on social media without being put in jail, I'm allowed to arm myself responsibly to protect myself and my property etc. I'm not saying the US is some utopia, i'm not a country fanboy. We have the cop issue and our political system is a joke. But hell i'd still rather be here than over there. --- "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888 <cite>GAMER_X posted [p:883097189] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>And lol at the 1984 comparison Like... that literally implies to America as well, to the same extent as most of Europe</quote> Maybe I'm crazy, but here in the US i don't have big brother watching me with cctv cameras on every corner, I can buy a goddamn kitchen knife without an id or age limit, I can criticize islam (or whatever else) on social media without being put in jail, I'm allowed to arm myself responsibly to protect myself and my property etc. I'm not saying the US is some utopia, i'm not a country fanboy. We have the cop issue and our political system is a joke. But hell i'd still rather be here than over there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/17/17 6:16:44 PM #30:	GAMER_X posted... Samurontai posted... And lol at the 1984 comparison Like... that literally implies to America as well, to the same extent as most of Europe Maybe I'm crazy, but here in the US i don't have big brother watching me with cctv cameras on every corner, I can buy a goddamn kitchen knife without an id or age limit, I can criticize islam (or whatever else) on social media without being put in jail, I'm allowed to arm myself responsibly to protect myself and my property etc. I'm not saying the US is some utopia, i'm not a country fanboy. We have the cop issue and our political system is a joke. But hell i'd still rather be here than over there. Just because another country doesn't have the same speech laws that we do, does not mean that we necessarily have more freedoms Are you forgetting the whole patriot act thing? And referencing gun and access to other self defense weapons is pretty meaningless when you look at things from a logical, statistical, and less emotional standpoint. I'd 100% rather live in the U.K., Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, or Canada rather than America --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883097402] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>GAMER_X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>And lol at the 1984 comparison Like... that literally implies to America as well, to the same extent as most of Europe</quote> Maybe I'm crazy, but here in the US i don't have big brother watching me with cctv cameras on every corner, I can buy a goddamn kitchen knife without an id or age limit, I can criticize islam (or whatever else) on social media without being put in jail, I'm allowed to arm myself responsibly to protect myself and my property etc. I'm not saying the US is some utopia, i'm not a country fanboy. We have the cop issue and our political system is a joke. But hell i'd still rather be here than over there.</quote> Just because another country doesn't have the same speech laws that we do, does not mean that we necessarily have more freedoms Are you forgetting the whole patriot act thing? And referencing gun and access to other self defense weapons is pretty meaningless when you look at things from a logical, statistical, and less emotional standpoint. I'd 100% rather live in the U.K., Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, or Canada rather than America</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 07/17/17 6:18:58 PM #31:	Darmik posted... GuyCarlPeterson posted... Darmik posted... She was talking to the driver when the officer in the passenger seat pulled out his gun and shot across his fellow officer. What in the hell happened for him to just shoot past his partner at a lady he was talking to? Maybe he got dazed and confused by her accent thronedfire2 posted... yeah I just feel like there's no way we're getting the whole story here. Tbh I can't think of a full story that's gonna justify shooting an Aussie lady in her PJ's. Maybe that she shouldn't have approached the car? Which sorta sucks for her since that's not an issue in Australia if you call the police. of course it isnt the full story why do you think her family are asking about it ?? what? do you think they shouldnt know ? "My mom's dead because a police officer shot her for reasons I don't know," the newspaper quoted him as saying. --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:883097517] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GuyCarlPeterson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>She was talking to the driver when the officer in the passenger seat pulled out his gun and shot across his fellow officer.</quote> What in the hell happened for him to just shoot past his partner at a lady he was talking to?</quote> Maybe he got dazed and confused by her accent <cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote>yeah I just feel like there's no way we're getting the whole story here.</quote> Tbh I can't think of a full story that's gonna justify shooting an Aussie lady in her PJ's. Maybe that she shouldn't have approached the car? Which sorta sucks for her since that's not an issue in Australia if you call the police.</quote> of course it isnt the full story why do you think her family are asking about it ?? what? do you think they shouldnt know ? <quote> "My mom's dead because a police officer shot her for reasons I don't know," the newspaper quoted him as saying. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/17/17 6:20:04 PM #32:	GAMER_X posted... I take it you haven't ever seen the infamous gif of UK cops trying to subdue a man with a knife, where theres like 10-15 cops around this one guy with a knife and they're just running away from him everytime he gets close to them. And? Was he subdued? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:883097572] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>GAMER_X posted...</cite> <quote>I take it you haven't ever seen the infamous gif of UK cops trying to subdue a man with a knife, where theres like 10-15 cops around this one guy with a knife and they're just running away from him everytime he gets close to them.</quote> And? Was he subdued?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GAMER_X 07/17/17 6:23:14 PM #33:	Samurontai posted... GAMER_X posted... Samurontai posted... And lol at the 1984 comparison Like... that literally implies to America as well, to the same extent as most of Europe Maybe I'm crazy, but here in the US i don't have big brother watching me with cctv cameras on every corner, I can buy a goddamn kitchen knife without an id or age limit, I can criticize islam (or whatever else) on social media without being put in jail, I'm allowed to arm myself responsibly to protect myself and my property etc. I'm not saying the US is some utopia, i'm not a country fanboy. We have the cop issue and our political system is a joke. But hell i'd still rather be here than over there. Just because another country doesn't have the same speech laws that we do, does not mean that we necessarily have more freedoms Are you forgetting the whole patriot act thing? And referencing gun and access to other self defense weapons is pretty meaningless when you look at things from a logical, statistical, and less emotional standpoint. I'd 100% rather live in the U.K., Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, or Canada rather than America >Sweden Well alrighty then, now I can't even take you seriously lol. Sweden is literally the rape capital of europe now thanks to forced immigration of middle eastern men. If you'd rather live there, then move there? Have fun with that, yikes. And the mayor of the UK has flat out been quoted as saying that terrorism is 'part and parcel of living in a big city', aka 'I'm not going to do anything about it, you just need to deal with it and accept it. ' Gee js i'm kinda fine living where i am, where I've never heard a gunshot in my life or had any kind of crazy thing happen (and i don't live in some gated community, i live in a middle class suburb outside of philly that isn't richie rich or anything its average), than live in the UK where the mayor is more than happy to look the other way while terrorists go on mass stabbing sprees and plant bombs on buses, subways and at concerts. --- "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888 <cite>GAMER_X posted [p:883097777] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GAMER_X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>And lol at the 1984 comparison Like... that literally implies to America as well, to the same extent as most of Europe</quote> Maybe I'm crazy, but here in the US i don't have big brother watching me with cctv cameras on every corner, I can buy a goddamn kitchen knife without an id or age limit, I can criticize islam (or whatever else) on social media without being put in jail, I'm allowed to arm myself responsibly to protect myself and my property etc. I'm not saying the US is some utopia, i'm not a country fanboy. We have the cop issue and our political system is a joke. But hell i'd still rather be here than over there.</quote> Just because another country doesn't have the same speech laws that we do, does not mean that we necessarily have more freedoms Are you forgetting the whole patriot act thing? And referencing gun and access to other self defense weapons is pretty meaningless when you look at things from a logical, statistical, and less emotional standpoint. I'd 100% rather live in the U.K., Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, or Canada rather than America</quote> >Sweden Well alrighty then, now I can't even take you seriously lol. Sweden is literally the rape capital of europe now thanks to forced immigration of middle eastern men. If you'd rather live there, then move there? Have fun with that, yikes. And the mayor of the UK has flat out been quoted as saying that terrorism is 'part and parcel of living in a big city', aka 'I'm not going to do anything about it, you just need to deal with it and accept it. ' Gee js i'm kinda fine living where i am, where I've never heard a gunshot in my life or had any kind of crazy thing happen (and i don't live in some gated community, i live in a middle class suburb outside of philly that isn't richie rich or anything its average), than live in the UK where the mayor is more than happy to look the other way while terrorists go on mass stabbing sprees and plant bombs on buses, subways and at concerts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 07/17/17 6:25:20 PM #34:	GAMER_X posted... And the mayor of the UK has flat out been quoted as saying that terrorism is 'part and parcel of living in a big city', aka 'I'm not going to do anything about it, you just need to deal with it and accept it. ' pathetic troll confirmed --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:883097894] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>GAMER_X posted...</cite> <quote>And the mayor of the UK has flat out been quoted as saying that terrorism is 'part and parcel of living in a big city', aka 'I'm not going to do anything about it, you just need to deal with it and accept it. ' </quote> pathetic troll confirmed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reverend_Wilson 07/17/17 6:25:23 PM #35:	Darmik posted... I guess not as many people will defend this because it wasn't a black guy who got shot. So maybe we will see some justice. Or maybe they can look at why this sorta stuff keeps happening with American police and how it can be stopped. But I'm guessing neither of those things will happen. Are you crazy? America goes nuts if a an attractive white woman gets killed. --- I like to eat poop. <cite>Reverend_Wilson posted [p:883097898] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I guess not as many people will defend this because it wasn't a black guy who got shot. So maybe we will see some justice. Or maybe they can look at why this sorta stuff keeps happening with American police and how it can be stopped. But I'm guessing neither of those things will happen.</quote> Are you crazy? America goes nuts if a an attractive white woman gets killed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/17/17 6:27:58 PM #36:	GAMER_X posted... Samurontai posted... GAMER_X posted... Samurontai posted... And lol at the 1984 comparison Like... that literally implies to America as well, to the same extent as most of Europe Maybe I'm crazy, but here in the US i don't have big brother watching me with cctv cameras on every corner, I can buy a goddamn kitchen knife without an id or age limit, I can criticize islam (or whatever else) on social media without being put in jail, I'm allowed to arm myself responsibly to protect myself and my property etc. I'm not saying the US is some utopia, i'm not a country fanboy. We have the cop issue and our political system is a joke. But hell i'd still rather be here than over there. Just because another country doesn't have the same speech laws that we do, does not mean that we necessarily have more freedoms Are you forgetting the whole patriot act thing? And referencing gun and access to other self defense weapons is pretty meaningless when you look at things from a logical, statistical, and less emotional standpoint. I'd 100% rather live in the U.K., Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, or Canada rather than America >Sweden Well alrighty then, now I can't even take you seriously lol. Sweden is literally the rape capital of europe now thanks to forced immigration of middle eastern men. If you'd rather live there, then move there? Have fun with that, yikes. "How do statistics work" The only reason they're the "rape capital of the world" is because of how they report crimes like those And the mayor of the UK has flat out been quoted as saying that terrorism is 'part and parcel of living in a big city', aka 'I'm not going to do anything about it, you just need to deal with it and accept it. ' "What is context?" He never said that in regards to terrorism, he was saying that in regards to dealing with the problems as they arise As in they will be ready to deal with and squash any problems like those instead of ignoring them and pretending they don't exist Hilarious being as you said you can't take me seriously but you just decided to drop a bunch of "gotcha"'s that are either flat out false, misconstrued, or just taken out of context Gg though lol --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883098070] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>GAMER_X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GAMER_X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>And lol at the 1984 comparison Like... that literally implies to America as well, to the same extent as most of Europe</quote> Maybe I'm crazy, but here in the US i don't have big brother watching me with cctv cameras on every corner, I can buy a goddamn kitchen knife without an id or age limit, I can criticize islam (or whatever else) on social media without being put in jail, I'm allowed to arm myself responsibly to protect myself and my property etc. I'm not saying the US is some utopia, i'm not a country fanboy. We have the cop issue and our political system is a joke. But hell i'd still rather be here than over there.</quote> Just because another country doesn't have the same speech laws that we do, does not mean that we necessarily have more freedoms Are you forgetting the whole patriot act thing? And referencing gun and access to other self defense weapons is pretty meaningless when you look at things from a logical, statistical, and less emotional standpoint. I'd 100% rather live in the U.K., Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, or Canada rather than America</quote> >Sweden Well alrighty then, now I can't even take you seriously lol. Sweden is literally the rape capital of europe now thanks to forced immigration of middle eastern men. If you'd rather live there, then move there? Have fun with that, yikes. "How do statistics work" The only reason they're the "rape capital of the world" is because of how they report crimes like those And the mayor of the UK has flat out been quoted as saying that terrorism is 'part and parcel of living in a big city', aka 'I'm not going to do anything about it, you just need to deal with it and accept it. ' "What is context?" He never said that in regards to terrorism, he was saying that in regards to dealing with the problems as they arise As in they will be ready to deal with and squash any problems like those instead of ignoring them and pretending they don't exist </quote> Hilarious being as you said you can't take me seriously but you just decided to drop a bunch of "gotcha"'s that are either flat out false, misconstrued, or just taken out of context Gg though lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 07/17/17 6:31:55 PM #37:	Honestly, I lost my job as a CUSTODIAN for leaving a supply closet unlocked. Nothing happened. If you kill another human being, it shouldnt be about proving it wasn't justified. Cops should be guilty until proven innocent. This isnt a problem at all if they wear their required recording gear. If they dont, its on them to prove it wasnt absolutely murder. All the perks, no consequences. This is one career path that just SCREAMS to psychopaths. <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:883098280] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, I lost my job as a CUSTODIAN for leaving a supply closet unlocked. Nothing happened. If you kill another human being, it shouldnt be about proving it wasn't justified. Cops should be guilty until proven innocent. This isnt a problem at all if they wear their required recording gear. If they dont, its on them to prove it wasnt absolutely murder. All the perks, no consequences. This is one career path that just SCREAMS to psychopaths.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stoltenberg11 07/17/17 6:31:57 PM #38:	Darmik posted... She was talking to the driver when the officer in the passenger seat pulled out his gun and shot across his fellow officer. There's no way it can be that ludicrous right? right? --- You're such a boring characterless entity. Try getting laid once in a while and maybe you'll have friends and find out what a "joke" is. - derrate <cite>stoltenberg11 posted [p:883098282] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>She was talking to the driver when the officer in the passenger seat pulled out his gun and shot across his fellow officer.</quote> There's no way it can be that ludicrous right? right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/17/17 6:33:32 PM #39:	Sweden do report rapes differently. If a wife accuses her husband of raping her hundreds of times they would count each one separately. Most countries would only tally that as one rape. They also include rape where some countries would tally as sexual assault. Overall the crime rates in Sweden are better than the US. Even with the immigrant crisis. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:883098345] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>Sweden do report rapes differently. If a wife accuses her husband of raping her hundreds of times they would count each one separately. Most countries would only tally that as one rape. They also include rape where some countries would tally as sexual assault. Overall the crime rates in Sweden are better than the US. Even with the immigrant crisis.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GAMER_X 07/17/17 6:38:37 PM #40:	Darmik posted... GAMER_X posted... I take it you haven't ever seen the infamous gif of UK cops trying to subdue a man with a knife, where theres like 10-15 cops around this one guy with a knife and they're just running away from him everytime he gets close to them. And? Was he subdued? I found the clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXHorIrLFIc He was subdued, but not until after a bit of the completely neutered police playing benny hill running away from him. It took something like 15-20 cops (you see even more once he hits the ground) to handle ONE person with a knife, and it only ended because one of them finally had enough balls to pull out the damn taser and land a good shot with it. I guess peeps in the UK can't do the math here, but the US population is over 300 million, the country couldn't hope to ever afford to have enough cops to throw literally 20 or more of them at things like this, its ridiculous. These guys don't even have batons ffs. I'm all for ideas like making it so US police are armed with rubber bullets and bean bag guns etc and tasers and batons instead of live ammo, then again unfortunately unless we want to pour whatever billions or more it would cost to armor up every cop like soldiers, they're going to be at a disadvantage against armed criminals, which are most criminals in the US. And this late in the game there is no way to magically disarm a country of 300 million, it would only disarm the law abiding citizens and the black markets would still find a way to survive and criminals would have the upper hand on everyone. --- "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888 <cite>GAMER_X posted [p:883098610] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GAMER_X posted...</cite> <quote>I take it you haven't ever seen the infamous gif of UK cops trying to subdue a man with a knife, where theres like 10-15 cops around this one guy with a knife and they're just running away from him everytime he gets close to them.</quote> And? Was he subdued?</quote> I found the clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXHorIrLFIc He was subdued, but not until after a bit of the completely neutered police playing benny hill running away from him. It took something like 15-20 cops (you see even more once he hits the ground) to handle ONE person with a knife, and it only ended because one of them finally had enough balls to pull out the damn taser and land a good shot with it. I guess peeps in the UK can't do the math here, but the US population is over 300 million, the country couldn't hope to ever afford to have enough cops to throw literally 20 or more of them at things like this, its ridiculous. These guys don't even have batons ffs. I'm all for ideas like making it so US police are armed with rubber bullets and bean bag guns etc and tasers and batons instead of live ammo, then again unfortunately unless we want to pour whatever billions or more it would cost to armor up every cop like soldiers, they're going to be at a disadvantage against armed criminals, which are most criminals in the US. And this late in the game there is no way to magically disarm a country of 300 million, it would only disarm the law abiding citizens and the black markets would still find a way to survive and criminals would have the upper hand on everyone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/17/17 6:44:02 PM #41:	GAMER_X posted... He was subdued, but not until after a bit of the completely neutered police playing benny hill running away from him. It took something like 15-20 cops (you see even more once he hits the ground) to handle ONE person with a knife, and it only ended because one of them finally had enough balls to pull out the damn taser and land a good shot with it. So what? Nobody died. Not even the perpetrator. Overall it was a good result. Nothing escalated past the point of no return. I would rather 20 cops bring a guy in alive than one cop shooting a guy dead. GAMER_X posted... I guess peeps in the UK can't do the math here, but the US population is over 300 million, the country couldn't hope to ever afford to have enough cops to throw literally 20 or more of them at things like this, its ridiculous. These guys don't even have batons ffs. I'm all for ideas like making it so US police are armed with rubber bullets and bean bag guns etc and tasers and batons instead of live ammo, then again unfortunately unless we want to pour whatever billions or more it would cost to armor up every cop like soldiers, they're going to be at a disadvantage against armed criminals, which are most criminals in the US. And this late in the game there is no way to magically disarm a country of 300 million, it would only disarm the law abiding citizens and the black markets would still find a way to survive and criminals would have the upper hand on everyone. Nobody is arguing that police have an easier job in the US. The abundance of guns makes it way more difficult for them. Not sure how that situation is remotely comparable to police gunning down an Aussie woman in her PJ's though. She never had any weapon on her and wasn't a threat. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:883098886] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>GAMER_X posted...</cite> <quote>He was subdued, but not until after a bit of the completely neutered police playing benny hill running away from him. It took something like 15-20 cops (you see even more once he hits the ground) to handle ONE person with a knife, and it only ended because one of them finally had enough balls to pull out the damn taser and land a good shot with it. </quote> So what? Nobody died. Not even the perpetrator. Overall it was a good result. Nothing escalated past the point of no return. I would rather 20 cops bring a guy in alive than one cop shooting a guy dead. <cite>GAMER_X posted...</cite> <quote>I guess peeps in the UK can't do the math here, but the US population is over 300 million, the country couldn't hope to ever afford to have enough cops to throw literally 20 or more of them at things like this, its ridiculous. These guys don't even have batons ffs. I'm all for ideas like making it so US police are armed with rubber bullets and bean bag guns etc and tasers and batons instead of live ammo, then again unfortunately unless we want to pour whatever billions or more it would cost to armor up every cop like soldiers, they're going to be at a disadvantage against armed criminals, which are most criminals in the US. And this late in the game there is no way to magically disarm a country of 300 million, it would only disarm the law abiding citizens and the black markets would still find a way to survive and criminals would have the upper hand on everyone.</quote> Nobody is arguing that police have an easier job in the US. The abundance of guns makes it way more difficult for them. Not sure how that situation is remotely comparable to police gunning down an Aussie woman in her PJ's though. She never had any weapon on her and wasn't a threat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GAMER_X 07/17/17 6:47:43 PM #42:	Darmik posted... GAMER_X posted... He was subdued, but not until after a bit of the completely neutered police playing benny hill running away from him. It took something like 15-20 cops (you see even more once he hits the ground) to handle ONE person with a knife, and it only ended because one of them finally had enough balls to pull out the damn taser and land a good shot with it. So what? Nobody died. Not even the perpetrator. Overall it was a good result. Nothing escalated past the point of no return. I would rather 20 cops bring a guy in alive than one cop shooting a guy dead. GAMER_X posted... I guess peeps in the UK can't do the math here, but the US population is over 300 million, the country couldn't hope to ever afford to have enough cops to throw literally 20 or more of them at things like this, its ridiculous. These guys don't even have batons ffs. I'm all for ideas like making it so US police are armed with rubber bullets and bean bag guns etc and tasers and batons instead of live ammo, then again unfortunately unless we want to pour whatever billions or more it would cost to armor up every cop like soldiers, they're going to be at a disadvantage against armed criminals, which are most criminals in the US. And this late in the game there is no way to magically disarm a country of 300 million, it would only disarm the law abiding citizens and the black markets would still find a way to survive and criminals would have the upper hand on everyone. Nobody is arguing that police have an easier job in the US. The abundance of guns makes it way more difficult for them. Not sure how that situation is remotely comparable to police gunning down an Aussie woman in her PJ's though. She never had any weapon on her and wasn't a threat. I'm not defending the gunning down of the aussie chick. I did flat out say US officers are poorly hired and poorly trained on the whole. --- "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888 <cite>GAMER_X posted [p:883099102] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GAMER_X posted...</cite> <quote>He was subdued, but not until after a bit of the completely neutered police playing benny hill running away from him. It took something like 15-20 cops (you see even more once he hits the ground) to handle ONE person with a knife, and it only ended because one of them finally had enough balls to pull out the damn taser and land a good shot with it. </quote> So what? Nobody died. Not even the perpetrator. Overall it was a good result. Nothing escalated past the point of no return. I would rather 20 cops bring a guy in alive than one cop shooting a guy dead. <cite>GAMER_X posted...</cite> <quote>I guess peeps in the UK can't do the math here, but the US population is over 300 million, the country couldn't hope to ever afford to have enough cops to throw literally 20 or more of them at things like this, its ridiculous. These guys don't even have batons ffs. I'm all for ideas like making it so US police are armed with rubber bullets and bean bag guns etc and tasers and batons instead of live ammo, then again unfortunately unless we want to pour whatever billions or more it would cost to armor up every cop like soldiers, they're going to be at a disadvantage against armed criminals, which are most criminals in the US. And this late in the game there is no way to magically disarm a country of 300 million, it would only disarm the law abiding citizens and the black markets would still find a way to survive and criminals would have the upper hand on everyone.</quote> Nobody is arguing that police have an easier job in the US. The abundance of guns makes it way more difficult for them. Not sure how that situation is remotely comparable to police gunning down an Aussie woman in her PJ's though. She never had any weapon on her and wasn't a threat.</quote> I'm not defending the gunning down of the aussie chick. I did flat out say US officers are poorly hired and poorly trained on the whole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 07/17/17 6:54:32 PM #43:	I'd be interested in knowing how many cops are injured/die each year in these situations for not responding fast enough. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:883099529] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote>I'd be interested in knowing how many cops are injured/die each year in these situations for not responding fast enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/17/17 6:58:54 PM #44:	Anteaterking posted... I'd be interested in knowing how many cops are injured/die each year in these situations for not responding fast enough. It's honestly not that many, when you take into account population and the fact that gun specific deaths are not always in situations like what happened in regards to the girl in this article: http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/ https://www.odmp.org/search/year There's really no excuse to be that trigger happy --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883099796] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>I'd be interested in knowing how many cops are injured/die each year in these situations for not responding fast enough.</quote> It's honestly not that many, when you take into account population and the fact that gun specific deaths are not always in situations like what happened in regards to the girl in this article: http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/ https://www.odmp.org/search/year There's really no excuse to be that trigger happy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 07/17/17 7:04:32 PM #45:	Samurontai posted... Anteaterking posted... I'd be interested in knowing how many cops are injured/die each year in these situations for not responding fast enough. It's honestly not that many, when you take into account population and the fact that gun specific deaths are not always in situations like what happened in regards to the girl in this article: http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/ https://www.odmp.org/search/year There's really no excuse to be that trigger happy That's what I figured. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:883100141] in To protect... [t:75573814]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>I'd be interested in knowing how many cops are injured/die each year in these situations for not responding fast enough.</quote> It's honestly not that many, when you take into account population and the fact that gun specific deaths are not always in situations like what happened in regards to the girl in this article: http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/ https://www.odmp.org/search/year There's really no excuse to be that trigger happy</quote> That's what I figured.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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