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mrduckbear
07/18/17 12:59:41 AM
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Do you think segregation still exists in modern society?


A Black Family that is suing to get their daughter recognized as the sole valedictorian of her historically white high school have been the target of vile racist hate messages on the JusticeForJasmine Facebook page!!

They are suing the district of Delta in Cleveland, Mississippi, who say their daughter was forced to share the school's top honour with a white girl despite earning the honour outright!!

But since this went viral, Jasmine and Sherry Shepherd are now the target of hat as one post by Jacob Francis said "You n-word and your self-entitled actions make me sick! You shouldn't even be at the same school as white people!!. Black Lives don't mean s***"

19 y/o Jasmine responded with "Throughout my life, my parents shielded me from such behaviour...but now i see that i will have to face this head on. You can send me these types of messages but those sentiments will not be returned"

But it kept coming as another man from CANADA, David St Clair said "You're simply butthurt that another student is white and you feel like you deserve special attention simply based on the colour of your skin"

Stephen Bearden said Sherry was a "thieving racist" and that she should "Feel Free to Leave Mississippi and live in Iraq or Syria"

Eric Rowe said "Stop playing the I"M BLACK SO I"M SPECIAL card and put on your grown-up pants"

Jasmine and Heather Bouse was the student named to be co-valedictorian at Cleveland High School in 2016 who the district said had "identical grades"

But Jasmine took more AP classes and the district's own rules meant she should have won the title outright and the school has never had co-valedictorian's before nor has a black student ever been awarded the honour in the 110 year history

Last year Jasmine had to share co-valedictorian with Heather who Jasmine called "the sweetest thing" but objected to walk alongside her. Heather said "We're more progressive than most people see we are. We get along much better than they think we do"

The Principal, Steven Craddock and Jacquelyn Thigpen were named in the lawsuit and said that the school was race-based "neutral'

The population of less than 13,000 has had 2 high schools which was historically white but in recent years it's split 50/50..

Cleveland was the LAST of the 43 schools to comply to federal DESEGREGATION order but many feel that white parents now pull their children from the new public high school because their children will be only about 1/3 of the total students said Rev. Ed Duvall who supports the Shepherds

Ed said it matters that the district needs to be exposed for the evil it has perpetrated on the black population and fears that if white parents pull their children from the school, spending on public education will be cut because taxpayers won't support what they will see as education just for African Americans in the segregated town

Heather's family and the white people in town have nothing to say on the matter as some think the Shepherds are dragging up the past that they want to "move past"

But Isaac Shorter, a former black panther says it's important Jasmine is recognized so that black students have something to aim for and not feel minimized.

Do you think Segregation still exists today in modern society?

Jasmine and Heather - Unhappy Camper

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Racist Message -

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Steve - Principal

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Zeus
07/18/17 1:13:39 AM
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Once again, the story is complete bullshit. And the mother of the white student would have as much reason to complain as the mother of the black child and blame the thing on race. However, she hasn't and the other mother should have followed her example.

19 y/o Black Girl in SEGREGATED MISSISSIPPI Town get VILE RACIST Messages!!!


>Segregated
>Goes to school with whites
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JTekashiro
07/18/17 11:14:26 AM
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Zeus posted...
Once again, the story is complete bullshit. And the mother of the white student would have as much reason to complain as the mother of the black child and blame the thing on race. However, she hasn't and the other mother should have followed her example.

19 y/o Black Girl in SEGREGATED MISSISSIPPI Town get VILE RACIST Messages!!!


>Segregated
>Goes to school with whites


How is this story bullshit? If the white mother blames her daughter's valedictorian status on race it only proves Jasmine's story as her daughter would not have been promoted to the second valedictorian if she was black. If the white girl (Heather) had been in the black girl's (Jasmine's) position do you honestly think they would have had two valedictorians? I know you want to say they would have but, given the facts, it clearly is not the case.
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Far-Queue
07/18/17 11:51:58 AM
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Jasmine and Heather Bouse was the student named to be co-valedictorian at Cleveland High School in 2016 who the district said had "identical grades"

Oh, seems fair that they share the honor, then... waitaminit...

But Jasmine took more AP classes and the district's own rules meant she should have won the title outright

Oh, yeah. That's bullshit. Probably rooted in racism, sure.
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BlackScythe0
07/18/17 12:51:32 PM
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mrduckbear posted...
But Jasmine took more AP classes and the district's own rules meant she should have won the title outright and the school has never had co-valedictorian's before nor has a black student ever been awarded the honour in the 110 year history


I'm pretty sure that an A in a regular class is worth 4.0 and an A in an ap class is worth 5.0 with honors being 4.5

So if she took ap classes and got the same grades as someone who took less then their GPA is not the same.
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Zeus
07/18/17 1:52:09 PM
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JTekashiro posted...
Zeus posted...
Once again, the story is complete bullshit. And the mother of the white student would have as much reason to complain as the mother of the black child and blame the thing on race. However, she hasn't and the other mother should have followed her example.

19 y/o Black Girl in SEGREGATED MISSISSIPPI Town get VILE RACIST Messages!!!


>Segregated
>Goes to school with whites


How is this story bullshit? If the white mother blames her daughter's valedictorian status on race it only proves Jasmine's story as her daughter would not have been promoted to the second valedictorian if she was black. If the white girl (Heather) had been in the black girl's (Jasmine's) position do you honestly think they would have had two valedictorians? I know you want to say they would have but, given the facts, it clearly is not the case.


No, the argument would be that she was forced to share the seat BECAUSE the other girl was black with the bulk of the claim echoing hers -- because they have have equal claim in most regards -- except the "punchline" would be that the school wanted to look progressive by handing half the title to a black girl. However, the other mother is more mature than Jasmine's mom.
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Zeus
07/18/17 1:52:14 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
Jasmine and Heather Bouse was the student named to be co-valedictorian at Cleveland High School in 2016 who the district said had "identical grades"

Oh, seems fair that they share the honor, then... waitaminit...

But Jasmine took more AP classes and the district's own rules meant she should have won the title outright

Oh, yeah. That's bullshit. Probably rooted in racism, sure.


You don't seem to understand how that works. Unless there's specifically a rule that AP classes matter more than the actual GPA -- ie, a C in an AP beats an A in a normal -- which, by the way, would be insane, then that doesn't really work. Otherwise, "identical grades" doesn't mean scoring the same in every subject, but instead having an identical GPA which means that she could have under-performed in APs but, since APs are worth more, the result came out the same.

It's a 100% innocuous situation which is ONLY being contested because race was wrongly cited, causing people to virtue-signal like hell because they're scared to death of potentially being accused of racism even when they *have* to know that their position is completely wrong.

BlackScythe0 posted...
mrduckbear posted...
But Jasmine took more AP classes and the district's own rules meant she should have won the title outright and the school has never had co-valedictorian's before nor has a black student ever been awarded the honour in the 110 year history


I'm pretty sure that an A in a regular class is worth 4.0 and an A in an ap class is worth 5.0 with honors being 4.5

So if she took ap classes and got the same grades as someone who took less then their GPA is not the same.


The article literally mentions that it's based on an identical GPA, not merely face grades. Ergo any differential would already be reflected in the GPA.
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green dragon
07/18/17 2:08:27 PM
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Zeus posted...
>Segregated
>Goes to school with whites

There's a difference between de facto segregation and de jure segregation.


Obviously the school it self is not segregated by law, but could be segregated by culture, social norms, etc.
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Zeus
07/18/17 2:11:13 PM
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green dragon posted...
Zeus posted...
>Segregated
>Goes to school with whites

There's a difference between de facto segregation and de jure segregation.

Obviously the school it self is not segregated by law, but could be segregated by culture, social norms, etc.


Given that the black girl was in the same classes as the white girl and supposedly had more AP classes, that doesn't seem to be the case either. More importantly, he didn't accuse the school of being segregated, he claimed the town was. For the town to be segregated, the school would have to have actual segregation either in a legal sense or through funny districting. Neither seems to be the case.
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green dragon
07/18/17 2:18:00 PM
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Zeus posted...
Given that the black girl was in the same classes as the white girl and supposedly had more AP classes, that doesn't seem to be the case either. More importantly, he didn't accuse the school of being segregated, he claimed the town was. For the town to be segregated, the school would have to have actual segregation either in a legal sense or through funny districting. Neither seems to be the case.


I respectfully disagree.

While yes, the black girl had classes with white students, lunch rooms, assemblies, and other activities that have students picking who they sit by can all lead up to and contribute to de facto segregation.

Things like ses, housing locations, etc, can set up de facto segregation that effects the whole town.

Based off of the information given, we really don't know what it's like there
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Far-Queue
07/18/17 5:58:09 PM
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Zeus posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Jasmine and Heather Bouse was the student named to be co-valedictorian at Cleveland High School in 2016 who the district said had "identical grades"

Oh, seems fair that they share the honor, then... waitaminit...

But Jasmine took more AP classes and the district's own rules meant she should have won the title outright

Oh, yeah. That's bulls***. Probably rooted in racism, sure.


You don't seem to understand how that works. Unless there's specifically a rule that AP classes matter more than the actual GPA -- ie, a C in an AP beats an A in a normal -- which, by the way, would be insane, then that doesn't really work. Otherwise, "identical grades" doesn't mean scoring the same in every subject, but instead having an identical GPA which means that she could have under-performed in APs but, since APs are worth more, the result came out the same.

It's a 100% innocuous situation which is ONLY being contested because race was wrongly cited, causing people to virtue-signal like hell because they're scared to death of potentially being accused of racism even when they *have* to know that their position is completely wrong.

You don't seem to understand how to read.

Far-Queue posted...
But Jasmine took more AP classes and the district's own rules meant she should have won the title outright

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dedbus
07/18/17 8:09:56 PM
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Yet duckbear has injected this topic with so many of his fallacies and lie, that might not even be the case as well.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
07/18/17 9:01:48 PM
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Segregation - the enforced separation of different racial groups in a country, community, or establishment.

By definition it is only segregation if it is being enforced. So who is enforcing it?

mrduckbear posted...
their daughter was forced to share the school's top honour with a white girl despite earning the honour outright!!

That's something that can be investigated. What are the requirement to receive this honor? What are the merits of each student? How do these merits compare to each other as well as the requirement?

mrduckbear posted...
Jasmine and Sherry Shepherd are now the target of hat

How is this at all relevant?

mrduckbear posted...
Jasmine and Heather Bouse was the student named to be co-valedictorian at Cleveland High School in 2016 who the district said had "identical grades"

But Jasmine took more AP classes and the district's own rules meant she should have won the title outright

That should be cleared up quite simply by looking at the grades and how the rules were applied in this situation. Is it strictly based on GPA? Does a difference in curriculum matter? Does achievement in certain classes bestow more meritorious value than other classes?

mrduckbear posted...
Heather said "We're more progressive than most people see we are. We get along much better than they think we do"

Again, how is this at all relevant?
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Melon_Master
07/18/17 9:54:41 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
Zeus posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Jasmine and Heather Bouse was the student named to be co-valedictorian at Cleveland High School in 2016 who the district said had "identical grades"

Oh, seems fair that they share the honor, then... waitaminit...

But Jasmine took more AP classes and the district's own rules meant she should have won the title outright

Oh, yeah. That's bulls***. Probably rooted in racism, sure.


You don't seem to understand how that works. Unless there's specifically a rule that AP classes matter more than the actual GPA -- ie, a C in an AP beats an A in a normal -- which, by the way, would be insane, then that doesn't really work. Otherwise, "identical grades" doesn't mean scoring the same in every subject, but instead having an identical GPA which means that she could have under-performed in APs but, since APs are worth more, the result came out the same.

It's a 100% innocuous situation which is ONLY being contested because race was wrongly cited, causing people to virtue-signal like hell because they're scared to death of potentially being accused of racism even when they *have* to know that their position is completely wrong.

You don't seem to understand how to read.

Far-Queue posted...
But Jasmine took more AP classes and the district's own rules meant she should have won the title outright

Zeus can read, he's just picking and choosing information to fit his narrative. And as always, he's going to wait days to reply in hopes you've long forgotten this argument and he wins, by default.
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streamofthesky
07/18/17 9:56:50 PM
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I want the true/full story for this. This isn't a new thing, I think duckbear even had a previous topic on it. If not him, someone here did. In that topic, Jasmine's mother was quoted as saying she "knew" the classes the two girls took and that they had the same grades, then later admitted she didn't know the other student's grades.
I want to know what their GPA scores were. That's the only thing that matters here.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
07/18/17 10:09:17 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
I want the true/full story for this. This isn't a new thing, I think duckbear even had a previous topic on it. If not him, someone here did. In that topic, Jasmine's mother was quoted as saying she "knew" the classes the two girls took and that they had the same grades, then later admitted she didn't know the other student's grades.
I want to know what their GPA scores were. That's the only thing that matters here.

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Zeus
07/23/17 2:58:57 AM
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green dragon posted...
Zeus posted...
Given that the black girl was in the same classes as the white girl and supposedly had more AP classes, that doesn't seem to be the case either. More importantly, he didn't accuse the school of being segregated, he claimed the town was. For the town to be segregated, the school would have to have actual segregation either in a legal sense or through funny districting. Neither seems to be the case.


I respectfully disagree.

While yes, the black girl had classes with white students, lunch rooms, assemblies, and other activities that have students picking who they sit by can all lead up to and contribute to de facto segregation.

Things like ses, housing locations, etc, can set up de facto segregation that effects the whole town.

Based off of the information given, we really don't know what it's like there


It's a Ducky topic, we know that it's almost definitely false.

I'm not even touching on the silliness of de facto segregation.

Far-Queue posted...
Zeus posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Jasmine and Heather Bouse was the student named to be co-valedictorian at Cleveland High School in 2016 who the district said had "identical grades"

Oh, seems fair that they share the honor, then... waitaminit...

But Jasmine took more AP classes and the district's own rules meant she should have won the title outright

Oh, yeah. That's bulls***. Probably rooted in racism, sure.


You don't seem to understand how that works. Unless there's specifically a rule that AP classes matter more than the actual GPA -- ie, a C in an AP beats an A in a normal -- which, by the way, would be insane, then that doesn't really work. Otherwise, "identical grades" doesn't mean scoring the same in every subject, but instead having an identical GPA which means that she could have under-performed in APs but, since APs are worth more, the result came out the same.

It's a 100% innocuous situation which is ONLY being contested because race was wrongly cited, causing people to virtue-signal like hell because they're scared to death of potentially being accused of racism even when they *have* to know that their position is completely wrong.

You don't seem to understand how to read.

Far-Queue posted...
But Jasmine took more AP classes and the district's own rules meant she should have won the title outright


And you don't seem to understand what the actual rule likely entails.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
07/25/17 7:44:38 PM
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So it ain't real cause duckbear. But fo realz Zeus doesn't like us black peeps. Kewl.
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Far-Queue
07/27/17 10:20:07 AM
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Melon_Master posted...
Zeus can read, he's just picking and choosing information to fit his narrative. And as always, he's going to wait days to reply in hopes you've long forgotten this argument and he wins, by default.

lol you fucking nailed it. Dude waited five fucking days to post. Just can't admit he's wrong or that he didn't read that part or whatever. @Melon_Master
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SkynyrdRocker
07/27/17 10:30:58 AM
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God dammit stop necroing this topic
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Melon_Master
07/27/17 8:27:49 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
Melon_Master posted...
Zeus can read, he's just picking and choosing information to fit his narrative. And as always, he's going to wait days to reply in hopes you've long forgotten this argument and he wins, by default.

lol you fucking nailed it. Dude waited five fucking days to post. Just can't admit he's wrong or that he didn't read that part or whatever. @ Melon_Master

Give it time lol, he'll continue this ad nauseam.
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