Board 8 > ~~Japanese History Mafia~~ Topic 6 - I do not know the day my pain will end yet

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ScareChan posted...

oh I remember Sbell freakin out about someone saying chris was assassainated

didnt chris also claim bp right at end of day 1? I mean we all know chris eats extra kills, but if he wants soething from this game

I freaked out at the assertion that it was a fact. Sceptile did that. No one knows it's fact unless they did it.
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Hmm... would I be foolish enough to allow my mafia playing history with plum to allow me to let him skate by...

Plum would roleblock me night one with no clear person to block. And he would do it again...
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Votals as of post #52 (Sbell)

[2] Red - Dowolf, Death
[2] Scare - (Death), Plum, Gravy
[1] Sceptile - (Dowolf), (SBell), (VeryInsane), (Plum), Scare
[1] Gravy - (SBell), (Scare), Red
[1] VeryInsane - Sceptile
[0] Death - (Phoenix), (Gravy)
[0] Phoenix - (Plum)
[0] Dowolf - (Sceptile)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day ends at 9:00:00 PM EDT tonight (About 2 hours and 41 minutes)
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so death I have not really read last topic

whats the key things in it? I still plan too read but justnot right now
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hey scare

why do you like red?
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....

sceptile claimed vanilla who was slept with
phoenix claimed prosty who slept with KBM and Sceptile

and the votals are there for you to see
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dowolf posted...

hey scare

why do you like red?

He feels very much like last game's red which was town (and who I thought was town the whole game until I fucked up on the last night re read)
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like he straight out said for me and gravy to prove we were town and I basically told him to fuck off and he was like Okay I feelbetter about that. What does scum red gain from that unless you think we areboth scum? And even then do youthink we would both be that lazy?
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Ok

This is not how town red acts. Town read doesn't loiter in not doing anything and then ask for a mass claim

we are not mass claiming

Scare/Red

Pick one
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You know what? I have a Town read on Death (He stomped out my lynch yesterday hard) And I have a town read on Dowolf (because he has been hilariously wrong)

##unvote
##Vote:Red

Lets just go.
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I'm driving to work right now hold up til im there and can post regularly plum.

Leafeon13N posted...

I'm driving to work right now hold up til im there and can post regularly plum.

This post in a nutshell is why I am bothered by Red.

What exactly has red done this game? I'm not talking about being right or wrong, I'm talking about insightful comments.

The town read I know is a red who gambits as town to try to win the game. "Trying to win" is pretty much the last way I would describe red right now.

There isn't any urgency in anything red has done practically all game. He should know that being at work means he probably won't be super active. I'm not seeing his desire at all
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ScareChan posted...

like he straight out said for me and gravy to prove we were town and I basically told him to fuck off and he was like Okay I feelbetter about that. What does scum red gain from that unless you think we areboth scum? And even then do youthink we would both be that lazy?

Scum Red gets to pretend like he's being active?
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to be honest I dont know if I ever have much of a read on Red
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Also, I am totally going there and calling Leo as the person who replaces out as scum because he can't keep the time commitment.
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Ya know what. I can't exactly say why it is I've been giving red a pass since my original go at him.

I'm down for this.
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You know what my biggest weakness is as Town? I am great at meta and terrible at normal reading. I nailed Pez on kill meta


Leo replacing out without saying anything is 99% scum. If Leo is Town he says something about it or doesn't replace out.
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masterplum posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

I'm driving to work right now hold up til im there and can post regularly plum.

This post in a nutshell is why I am bothered by Red.

What exactly has red done this game? I'm not talking about being right or wrong, I'm talking about insightful comments.

The town read I know is a red who gambits as town to try to win the game. "Trying to win" is pretty much the last way I would describe red right now.

There isn't any urgency in anything red has done practically all game. He should know that being at work means he probably won't be super active. I'm not seeing his desire at all

Whoa hold on now. I'm not being victimized by this two games in a row.

First day i literally replaced in and spent a huge chunk of my time at an amusement park. Second day was much like what happened with han last game as well, the lynch was a foregone conclusion. There wasn't a whole lot to press.

On top of that it's been hard to have a huge presence when i work later on in the day and when i come home everyone is gone.

That's fine for the first two days, and I've given you slack for that, but this is a pivotal day 3 and you are like "sure let's mass 2 hours till deadline when I am at work. Whatever"
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it would be remiss of me not to mention this no matter how little it changes (and its little indeed)

But Leo's posts did say that he regretted signing up (drunk)
so to me it didnt come entirely out of nowhere

..when did Leo replace out as scum in the past btw?
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masterplum posted...

That's fine for the first two days, and I've given you slack for that, but this is a pivotal day 3 and you are like "sure let's mass 2 hours till deadline when I am at work. Whatever"

I didn't want to mass til prosty claimed. Prior to that mass was stupid. Prosty claim was still dumb as hell btw.

htaeD posted...

it would be remiss of me not to mention this no matter how little it changes (and its little indeed)

But Leo's posts did say that he regretted signing up (drunk)
so to me it didnt come entirely out of nowhere

..when did Leo replace out as scum in the past btw?

I do not recall. I believe he has but I am not positive.

And signing up drunk is fine. But if he didn't play at all he wouldn't start the game.

My guess is he was forced out by his team
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well a claim would be nice
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masterplum posted...

Also, I am totally going there and calling Leo as the person who replaces out as scum because he can't keep the time commitment.

You think red and gravy both as scum is plausible?

That is the part I'm torn on right now. I think both are okay lynches. Red has clearly coasted, it's hard to argue about that. Few votes on him or by him. Whereas Gravy replaced Lolo, who didn't play and lied about his circumstances. But are they both scum? Feels like one of them probably is, but I feel the other might be a trap.

I think I am leaning Red as the trap.

##Unvote
##Vote: Gravy

This seems like a safe lynch. The odds gravy is scum seems pretty high to me.
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oh wait, I forgot completely that Red replaced Leo, not sure what I was thinking there
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masterplum posted...

htaeD posted...

it would be remiss of me not to mention this no matter how little it changes (and its little indeed)

But Leo's posts did say that he regretted signing up (drunk)
so to me it didnt come entirely out of nowhere

..when did Leo replace out as scum in the past btw?

I do not recall. I believe he has but I am not positive.

And signing up drunk is fine. But if he didn't play at all he wouldn't start the game.

My guess is he was forced out by his team

hmm not exactly the answer I was hoping for
but I dont really consider Leo a part of my redsuspicion anyway
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Sceptilesolar posted...

masterplum posted...

Also, I am totally going there and calling Leo as the person who replaces out as scum because he can't keep the time commitment.

You think red and gravy both as scum is plausible?

That is the part I'm torn on right now. I think both are okay lynches. Red has clearly coasted, it's hard to argue about that. Few votes on him or by him. Whereas Gravy replaced Lolo, who didn't play and lied about his circumstances. But are they both scum? Feels like one of them probably is, but I feel the other might be a trap.

I think I am leaning Red as the trap.

##Unvote
##Vote: Gravy

This seems like a safe lynch. The odds gravy is scum seems pretty high to me.

The fact the guy I think is most likely to be scum but am not voting for pragmaticism is against the red lynch makes me very happy
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Also, can I point out that reds current vote is because he was fed up that gravy wasn't reading the game

TWO HOURS BEFORE LYNCH AND HE DOESNT HAVE A REAL VOTE DOWN
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masterplum posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

masterplum posted...

Also, I am totally going there and calling Leo as the person who replaces out as scum because he can't keep the time commitment.

You think red and gravy both as scum is plausible?

That is the part I'm torn on right now. I think both are okay lynches. Red has clearly coasted, it's hard to argue about that. Few votes on him or by him. Whereas Gravy replaced Lolo, who didn't play and lied about his circumstances. But are they both scum? Feels like one of them probably is, but I feel the other might be a trap.

I think I am leaning Red as the trap.

##Unvote
##Vote: Gravy

This seems like a safe lynch. The odds gravy is scum seems pretty high to me.

The fact the guy I think is most likely to be scum but am not voting for pragmaticism is against the red lynch makes me very happy

I would rather say I am for the gravy lynch.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

This seems like a safe lynch. The odds gravy is scum seems pretty high to me.

As safe as Oddity?

Also I could care less about the replace meta.
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Gravy hasnt wowed me too much (allthough his lie about having a read I think is classic Gravy)
but then neither has the guy Gravy voted for: Scare

I am conflicted, I dont think scum would be infighting right now
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This is giving me such agita.

I hate these decisions.
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masterplum posted...

Also, can I point out that reds current vote is because he was fed up that gravy wasn't reading the game

TWO HOURS BEFORE LYNCH AND HE DOESNT HAVE A REAL VOTE DOWN

Did you miss ths entire discussion?

That wasn't it at all.

Red's play this game doesn't strike me as being drastically less productive from the most recent games I've played with him, like Chrono Cross and turbopuns Mafia.
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I just reread every post you have made day 3 (the day you don't have an excuse for).

It has literally been entirely gravy hate and meta

There is nothing else. You initially voted gravy because he annoyed you, and you have built an argument around that
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##Unvote
##Vote: gravy
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masterplum posted...

Also, can I point out that reds current vote is because he was fed up that gravy wasn't reading the game

TWO HOURS BEFORE LYNCH AND HE DOESNT HAVE A REAL VOTE DOWN

I think gravy came into a bad spot and kind of flipped the hell out kind of dishonestly. He was actually the one that came out saying i was mad at him for not reading the game when it was more me questioning his thought process from night to day.

Which he was never able to really justify to me, btw. All he was able to do was rage recklessly.

Also



red13n posted...

Phoenix-Smasher posted...

Pretty sure scum already knew/figured it out based off the posts everyone was making.

I was trying to find a way to throw shade against that but couldn't manage it yet. Oh well. Still probably would have been proper to hold it in, just to keep people guessing(Particularly the night 1 action).

Leafeon13N posted...

masterplum posted...

That's fine for the first two days, and I've given you slack for that, but this is a pivotal day 3 and you are like "sure let's mass 2 hours till deadline when I am at work. Whatever"

I didn't want to mass til prosty claimed. Prior to that mass was stupid. Prosty claim was still dumb as hell btw.

I like how Red moves from "would be proper"

To

"Dumb as hell"


The reason why his initial reaction is restrained is because he is slated to see the claim. Of course it's dumb as hell. If red is Town he would have said it was dumb as hell initially. Not this "proper" garbage
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masterplum posted...

I just reread every post you have made day 3 (the day you don't have an excuse for).

It has literally been entirely gravy hate and meta

There is nothing else. You initially voted gravy because he annoyed you, and you have built an argument around that

I want gravys head on a spike what the fuck do you expect me to post.

If you put a gun to my head, my entire scum team is on gravy right now
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I can buy 66 % of that
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masterplum posted...

If you put a gun to my head, my entire scum team is on gravy right now

It must be much easier to believe things like that. However, I guarantee that is not the case.
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dowolf posted...

Basically, no one has any opinions on him whatsoever and this is weird and disconcerting for this point in the game.

Well there certainly are opinions of him now!

Anyway, thinking, as of right now I think I would lynch red over gravy
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Leafeon13N posted...

I want gravys head on a spike what the fuck do you expect me to post.

What argument can be levied against Gravy that cannot be argued twice over against you?
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Also plum those statements are basically equivalent from me. The first was just me coping with the disappointment. The second was after I'd accepted it.

VeryInsane posted...

Well there certainly are opinions of him now!

That was why I started to push Red in the first place, yes. Getting people to commit on issues on which nobody has committed is fun~
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dowolf posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

I want gravys head on a spike what the fuck do you expect me to post.

What argument can be levied against Gravy that cannot be argued twice over against you?

Thats not how this game works, dowolf. I am not gravy.

dowolf posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

I want gravys head on a spike what the fuck do you expect me to post.

What argument can be levied against Gravy that cannot be argued twice over against you?

Primarily it's that Lolo wasn't playing, started saying stuff about 'oh I've been busy but now I'm going to lock down everyone's alignment and it'll be so awesome', and then didn't play and replaced out. That argument, at least, does not apply to red.
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dowolf posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Well there certainly are opinions of him now!

That was why I started to push Red in the first place, yes. Getting people to commit on issues on which nobody has committed is fun~

The im going to humor you answer is that lolo literally 100 percent idled his time away. He only showed up to make excuses for his lack of posting. On top of that gravy wasn't ever able to justify his thought process to start the day.