Board 8 > ~~Japanese History Mafia~~ Topic 6 - I do not know the day my pain will end yet

(+) Yeah! (+)

I wrote a long post to reg explaining my rational for scanning VI. Am I allowed to post that?
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ah
neato

also that should put all talk about a scumplum making a powerplay to rest
if VI flips town, Plum'd know we would lynch him next

but I was pretty sure VI was scum anyway

##Vote: VeryInsane

also if VI is Godfather, then Sceptile is almost definitely cleared
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Uh
I do not see why not
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I don't recal if outgoing host communications are allowed
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And yes, if VI is godfather Sceptile is confirmed, otherwise Sbell would be lying
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And remember roleblocker showed up in my detective scan, so off the wall craziness like ninja roleblocker is out the window
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well maybe you can paraphrase your reasoning
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It was basically process of elimination, I just thought it would be interesting to show the thought process

Nbd
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Well I'm town.

But everything else plum said sounds sweet.

And if you have room to spare and want to lynch me to appease your suspicions prior to our (towns) win, I'm cool with that. Scum certainly ain't gunna kill me now.

With that.
##unvote

Will wait on my VI vote, don't want to hammer.
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I still think sceptile is already confirmed. Godfather should only apply to cop scans, not prostys
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No I mean in the sense that if VI is Godfather, Sceptile would have to be a RB to be scum
unless Sbell lied, Sceptile would have been seen getting up on night2 (and Sbell and Scept cant be scum together unless scum have 5 members, and that doesnt seem balanced to me)
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Sounds fine to me. This game seems super strong for town, but I can't imagine plum wanting to trade one for one with VI, and even if he did decide to do that it's actually fine. So yeah, VI toast.
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So, vi targeted phoenix, he won't flip blocker. That's just not possible.

So tonight they still get to use their nk and the roleblock, so it's safe to assume that plum is out and I'm roleblocked a 4th time. Yippeeeeeee.

With two confirmed town in scept and sbell, that means the two of us get two chances to find the scum in scare dowolf death and gravy. Sorry gravy still not as co firmed as me and scept
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Obellisk posted...

So, vi targeted phoenix, he won't flip blocker. That's just not possible.

So tonight they still get to use their nk and the roleblock, so it's safe to assume that plum is out and I'm roleblocked a 4th time. Yippeeeeeee.

With two confirmed town in scept and sbell, that means the two of us get two chances to find the scum in scare dowolf death and gravy. Sorry gravy still not as co firmed as me and scept

Are you sure? In the games I'm used to, the roleblocker can't also nightkill the same night.
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I would be concerned with how often you pre-emptively complain about being blocked, Sbell

but again, I had roleblockfun two games ago, so if you're town you're probably right
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Sceptilesolar posted...

Obellisk posted...

So, vi targeted phoenix, he won't flip blocker. That's just not possible.

So tonight they still get to use their nk and the roleblock, so it's safe to assume that plum is out and I'm roleblocked a 4th time. Yippeeeeeee.

With two confirmed town in scept and sbell, that means the two of us get two chances to find the scum in scare dowolf death and gravy. Sorry gravy still not as co firmed as me and scept

Are you sure? In the games I'm used to, the roleblocker can't also nightkill the same night.

if I remember correctly, they can double up on actions once they're the last member left
no way to be sure if Reg and Mzero rule differently, but I am not optimistic
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It would be cruel to make remaining scum pick and choose. Because then he has to pick block plum potential power or kill confirmed scept or kill plum... what if I block the kill then he's just officially confirmed my roleblock stories and plum gets a potential 4th action off. Oh the horror. THE HORROR
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htaeD posted...

I would be concerned with how often you pre-emptively complain about being blocked, Sbell

but again, I had roleblockfun two games ago, so if you're town you're probably right

3 in a row. If I don't get blocked tonight I'll be amazed.
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Obellisk posted...

It would be cruel to make remaining scum pick and choose. Because then he has to pick block plum potential power or kill confirmed scept or kill plum... what if I block the kill then he's just officially confirmed my roleblock stories and plum gets a potential 4th action off. Oh the horror. THE HORROR

I guess that's true. I was just hoping you'd be able to bodyguard successfully as it would pretty much wrap every last possibility up. Still think it's just gonna be Scare right after VI though.
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Obellisk posted...

htaeD posted...

I would be concerned with how often you pre-emptively complain about being blocked, Sbell

but again, I had roleblockfun two games ago, so if you're town you're probably right

3 in a row. If I don't get blocked tonight I'll be amazed.

Ill have to check what my record is
brb
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aha!
4 nights in a row
then I died on the 5th
my score is safe yet!
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##vote: vi

gj plum
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[3] VI - plum, death, gravy
[1] plum - (dowolf), VI
[0] Scare - (SBell)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends at 9:20:00 PM EDT on Saturday (about 28 hours and 30 minutes)
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I think we can use the half day this time
...allthough in that case I would need to warn everyone that sunday is a busy day for me
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htaeD posted...

aha!
4 nights in a row
then I died on the 5th
my score is safe yet!

So If I die tonight then death is scum confirmed.
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and then they shot me instead just to be a double dick
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yeah you know I don't see the point in continuing this really. The amount of discussion remaining in this day (and game?) is close to nil.

##Vote: VI
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no need to finish the massclaim now either
did everyone chime in yet?
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Everyone's chimed in, yeah.

Gonna end things soon-ish unless someone gives me a good reason not to.
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I'd like to not hammer yet. Picking up kids. Heading home. Give me till at least 8pm.
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okay not-brah.

i'll do it for you.
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but thats like years from now
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err, I'll not do it for you?

You know what I mean.
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Good night everyone

##Vote: VI
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STOP
stop
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[5] VI - plum, death, gravy, Sceptile, Scare
[1] plum - (dowolf), VI
[0] Scare - (SBell)
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VI has been lynched. He was Meiji, MAFIA Godfather

Alive (7):
Death
Dowolf
Gravy
Plum
SBell
Scare
Sceptile

Dead (8):
[LD1] Oddity - Enomoto Takeaki, TOWN Vanilla
[KN1] Tombolo - Katsu Kaishu, TOWN Jailkeeper
[KN1] Chris - Matsudaira Sadaaki, TOWN Vanilla
[LD2] pezloco - Kirino Toshiaki, MAFIA Assassin
[KN2] KBM - Hijikata Toshizo, TOWN Cop
[LD3] Red - Saigo Takamori, MAFIA Vanilla
[KN3] Phoenix - Takenaka Shigekata, TOWN Prostitute
[LD4] VeryInsane - Meiji, MAFIA Godfather

If every living player PMs me before 9:00:00 PM Eastern tonight, day will go up then. Otherwise, your deadline is 6:30:00 PM Eastern tomorrow and day will start at 7:00:00 PM EDT

I can run the earlier deadline once, but I can't push it any earlier than that since the deadline will be on Monday and earlier will push it towards me being at or just getting off work when day ends.
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The Shogunate forces marched on to Kyoto, and what once seemed like a sure victory for the Imperial Army was quickly turning into countless defeats. The combined forces of Choshu and Satsuma were unable to stop the advancing samurai loyal to the shogun and the surrounded the Imperial Palace. Although originally willing to work with the Emperor, the Shogun now wanted absolute power restored. In order to demonstrate his control over the country, he had the emperor captured and put to death for treason. The country was in shock, and the Imperial Army had suffered their largest loss yet, both to their morale and their cause.

VI has been lynched! He was Meiji, MAFIA Godfather.

However, the imperials fought on. A new emperor was crowned and declared his rule over the country. Meanwhile, in a shocking turn of events, the Shogun Tokugawa Yoshinobu was assassinated by ronin from Satsuma who vowed to avenge Saigo and the Emperor's deaths. As usual, another major victory for the shogunate was met with a loss of equal magnitude.

Plum has died! He was Shogun Tokugawa Yoshinobu, TOWN Jack-of-all-Trades.

Both major leaders of the war have died, but the war wages on. Those who support the new Emperor rallied together and marched on the palace, now controlled by the Shogunate once again, determined to retake the capital and install the new Emperor as the head of government. This will be the final battle of the Boshin War.

Alive (6):
Death
Dowolf
Gravy
SBell
Scare
Sceptile

Dead (9):
[LD1] Oddity - Enomoto Takeaki, TOWN Vanilla
[KN1] Tombolo - Katsu Kaishu, TOWN Jailkeeper
[KN1] Chris - Matsudaira Sadaaki, TOWN Vanilla
[LD2] pezloco - Kirino Toshiaki, MAFIA Assassin
[KN2] KBM - Hijikata Toshizo, TOWN Cop
[LD3] Red - Saigo Takamori, MAFIA Vanilla
[KN3] Phoenix - Takenaka Shigekata, TOWN Prostitute
[LD4] VeryInsane - Meiji, MAFIA Godfather
[KN4] Plum - Tokugawa Yoshinobu, TOWN Jack of All Trades

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day ends at 9:00:00 PM EDT on Sunday (48 hours from now)

The archive for this game is located at lolreg.altervista.org/Japan/
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Roleblocked. Which is pretty fucking funny at this point.

Hey scare. What up bro.

##vote:scare
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Alright. So I think Scare is extremely likely to be the last scum. I see no reason to rush it though. It should be easy to rule out the possibility of it being anyone other than him.

What's nice about having killed VI is that it significantly reduces even further any chance that gravy was scum or that the people going after Red D3 were scum. Because trying to protect gravy by lynching red really requires that someone on the scum team sacrifice red. Someone like dowolf or death. But they can't be scum at the same time gravy is. Which means that the odds any of them are scum is lowered to near 0%.

I'm actual confirmed town after VI's flip. It's impossible for me to be roleblocker. Even if SBell is lying about being roleblocked, obviously I can't be scum myself in that spot.

So if we lynch Scare, I assume we win. I'd put the odds Scare is scum to be greater than 95%. The remaining chance is mostly SBell.

We can review things to be sure. But I don't see this ever going wrong.
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I'm assuming there are exactly four scum, but five scum with an extra kill would be insanity in a game of this size, so I think that's reasonable. That's another possibility that's so improbable to be easy to discount.
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Yes my actions this game is very cunning scum scare

Please
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i'm so good for being right about vi, imo
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ScareChan posted...

Yes my actions this game is very cunning scum scare

Please

Well, I hope you are trying to think the game out and come up with an interpretation that isn't 'Scare tried to get gravy lynched because the alternative was his scum partner'. Because that is what I'm going with.
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i'm having difficulty not reading that scare post without the tone of utter resignation btw.


i'm sure he's having a bitch fit on the scum board. something something IMBALANCED.
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fun fact: I spent an inordinate amount of time overthinking Plum, since using protection d1 when there's only one logical protection target is a clear misplay; his day 2 action just happened to be useless; and he was way too entertaining of the possibility Scare was a detective d2, given everything else we know. Good thing scum happily resolved that dilemma.

anyways the correct play is

##Vote: No lynch

slow play all day~

(p.s. town seems too stacked)
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I don't think no lynching is rational. They're just going to shoot me since I'm confirmed.
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could someone kindly post all the votals please
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##vote: NL

i agree with that logic. final 3 is a better scenario than final 4
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I'll bite on votals.

[6] Oddity - KBM, Sceptile, Death, Chris, Phoenix, (Scare), Plum
[2] Lolo - (Tombolo), (Tombolo), Scare, Dowolf
[1] Death - pezloco, (Oddity)
[1] Red - SBell
[1] Scare - (Chris), (Oddity), (Plum), (Dowolf), VeryInsane
[1] Sceptile - (Oddity), (Lolo), (Oddity), (Oddity), (Oddity), (Dowolf), Oddity
[0] pezloco - (Chris), (Plum), (SBell), (Tombolo)
[0] Phoenix - (Dowolf), (Oddity)
[0] Plum - (Scare), (Dowolf)
[0] Chris - (Scare), (Oddity)
[0] Dowolf - (Sceptile), (Tombolo)
[0] VeryInsane - (Phoenix)
[0] No Lynch - (Tombolo), (pezloco)

[7] pezloco - (KBM), (Plum), KBM, (SBell), Phoenix, Death, Scare, Dowolf, Plum, Red
[1] Death - (pezloco), pezloco
[0] Plum - (Scare), (Lolo), (Dowolf), (pezloco)
[0] Scare - (KBM), (pezloco)
[0] Sceptile - (Dowolf)

[5] Red - Dowolf, (Death), Plum, (SBell), Death, Phoenix, SBell
[2] Gravy - (SBell), (Scare), Red, (Sceptile), Scare, (SBell)
[1] VeryInsane - (Sceptile), Gravy
[0] Scare - (Death), (Plum), (Gravy), (Death)
[0] Sceptile - (Dowolf), (SBell), (VeryInsane), (Plum), (Scare)
[0] Death - (Phoenix), (Gravy)
[0] Phoenix - (Plum)
[0] Dowolf - (Sceptile)

[5] VI - plum, death, gravy, Sceptile, Scare
[1] plum - (dowolf), VI
[0] Scare - (SBell)
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