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scarletspeed7 07/26/17 9:59:06 PM #1: |
Welfare Queen for Smackdown champ.
Previously on APWT... NBIceman goes Cornette on Yano! --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NBIceman 07/26/17 10:08:22 PM #2: |
I think me going Cornette on Yano would be to say he's actually terrible and/or bad for NJPW/wrestling as a whole.
Yano's very good at what he does and the crowd loves him, and thus he has good value for New Japan. And there certainly are still times I get a kick out of his antics. But I don't really need to see 9 singles matches from him in the space of a month. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scarletspeed7 07/26/17 10:13:34 PM #3: |
I just wanted to dramatize the situation, get us some good heat going into the main event.
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Lopen 07/26/17 10:16:18 PM #4: |
I stand by my statement of NOFunman.
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Panthera 07/26/17 10:16:42 PM #5: |
Next week on Raw, Brock Lesnar probably doesn't show up
Next week on Smackdown, Baron Corbin's dick kicking tactics determine who gets to challenge The Great Khali and the Singh Brothers (featuring their manager, Jinder Mahal) in a 3 on 1 handicap match for the WWE title --- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NBIceman 07/26/17 10:27:39 PM #6: |
scarletspeed7 posted...
I just wanted to dramatize the situation, get us some good heat going into the main event. Yeah, I didn't figure you were serious, but I also didn't think I made my point very well in the last topic so I just wanted to clarify. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 07/26/17 10:32:41 PM #7: |
But seriously-- I may not watch as much New Japan as you, but I don't think I could ever get bored of Yano. I find his matches LESS formulaic than a lot of wrestlers. Hell even when he does the same trick a few times (in ROH last year he was overusing hitting dudes with a turnbuckle pad) I can still get into his matches.
Hell, Yano vs AJ Styles was actually one of my favorite matches in the Climax two years ago. And while I didn't see near all of it I saw a decent amount between watching part live and watching matches after the fact. He's a great man. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GTM 07/26/17 10:33:07 PM #8: |
having never watched NJPW, it's supposed to be a fun promotion like Chikara, right? Seems like something I could see there.
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Lopen 07/26/17 10:35:37 PM #9: |
No NJPW is not like CHIKARA
You may be thinking of DDT Yano's just a joke guy that exists in NJPW and does it without it seeming super out of place (mostly because, as I said, it's usually significantly more subtle than that clip-- though yeah given the opponent it still kinda works). Because he's great. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NBIceman 07/27/17 12:47:03 AM #10: |
Lopen posted...
But seriously-- I may not watch as much New Japan as you, but I don't think I could ever get bored of Yano. I find his matches LESS formulaic than a lot of wrestlers. Hell even when he does the same trick a few times (in ROH last year he was overusing hitting dudes with a turnbuckle pad) I can still get into his matches. Hey, I recognize I'm in the minority here. But as you pointed out, I watch a LOT of New Japan. When I was just getting into the company, I loved Yano too. But eventually I got to the point where I'm not really looking for comedy out of NJPW except on rare occasion, even if you're as good at it as Yano is. I have PWG and PROGRESS and other companies here and there for comedy. I go to New Japan for workrate. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voltch 07/27/17 1:05:53 AM #11: |
@Tom_Bombadil
Yes, Io has a hotter sister called Mio, who appears to like pole dancing. Before she retired, she was also a much better wrestler. --- Congrats to Eli Ayase's #1 fan BK_Sheikah00 on winning the BYIG Guru Contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NBIceman 07/27/17 1:07:38 AM #12: |
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JetJaguar 07/27/17 1:14:35 AM #13: |
NBIceman posted...
Lopen posted...But seriously-- I may not watch as much New Japan as you, but I don't think I could ever get bored of Yano. I find his matches LESS formulaic than a lot of wrestlers. Hell even when he does the same trick a few times (in ROH last year he was overusing hitting dudes with a turnbuckle pad) I can still get into his matches. You can't assume everybody who watches NJPW also watches Progress and PWG though. NJPW fans need their comedy fix too. --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 07/27/17 1:17:13 AM #14: |
Well I mean I don't think he's something I'm going to 'grow out of' even as I watch more New Japan or anything. I don't watch a ton of it (time + effort barrier) but I watch enough to have a reasonable familiarity with the product and the rosters-- hell I think I've been a subscriber to NJPW World for as many months total as I've been a paid subscriber to the WWE Network. Yano, Ishii, and Naito are far and away the top 3 for me.
On that note I'm actually not a huge fan of oversaturation of comedy in wrestling feds. It can become tiresome-- can only watch the truly ridiculous stuff in bursts. I much much prefer a serious fed with very sparing use of comedy elements. That he's a comedy guy in a primarily non-comedy product and is able to be taken as vaguely credible is the appeal to me. Anyway this has sorta gone off on a tangent due to not liking the connations behind "when I was just getting into the company" but yeah I'm just saying I don't think it's a bad thing to put a bit of variety in the product as long as you don't overdo it. Seen much much more distracting things in NJPW before in the past, like a 70 year old Abdullah the Butcher on one of the Wrestle Kingdom shows in a match. Elgin being in the G1 is the one to be upset about imhhhho. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NBIceman 07/27/17 1:22:54 AM #15: |
JetJaguar posted...
NBIceman posted...Lopen posted...But seriously-- I may not watch as much New Japan as you, but I don't think I could ever get bored of Yano. I find his matches LESS formulaic than a lot of wrestlers. Hell even when he does the same trick a few times (in ROH last year he was overusing hitting dudes with a turnbuckle pad) I can still get into his matches. I don't assume that. I made like three or four posts in which I mentioned that he's valuable to the company even if he's not personally my taste. Lopen posted... Well I mean I don't think he's something I'm going to 'grow out of' even as I watch more New Japan or anything. I don't watch a ton of it (time + effort barrier) but I watch enough to have a reasonable familiarity with the product and the rosters-- hell I think I've been a subscriber to NJPW World for as many months total as I've been a paid subscriber to the WWE Network. Yano, Ishii, and Naito are far and away the top 3 for me. I didn't intend that to mean anything more than what it looks like on the surface, but I can see how you might construe it that way. It was just meant to be a personal admission that I got tired of him. I totally get why other people don't tire of him the same way. I don't know what you've got against Elgin, though. He had the best or maybe second-best match of the tournament so far this year. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 07/27/17 1:30:41 AM #16: |
I will be honest I haven't seen any of the current G1 yet but I've always thought Elgin was pretty bad. Maybe he's turned it around in a big way-- but I'm pretty sure you've been defending him for a while so I'm skeptical I'd be agreeing with that.
I'll probably know in a few months! (Which match was it btw since I don't think I'll be watching it front to back) --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NBIceman 07/27/17 1:35:43 AM #17: |
vs Okada on Night 4. If you didn't care for him before, though, I won't be surprised if it doesn't connect with you.
Also, it might help to get my point across about Yano to mention that I didn't care for Nakamura a lot of the time while he was in NJPW either because he had such a habit of dogging it in all but the biggest matches. I skipped a fair amount of his G1 stuff as well. It's not just comedy that doesn't do it for me sometimes, laziness can take away from matches as well. But I would never question someone loving Nakamura or denying that he was huge for the company while he was still there. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voltch 07/27/17 1:44:40 AM #18: |
@NBIceman
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x303rfq Shida on the other hand sucks. --- Congrats to Eli Ayase's #1 fan BK_Sheikah00 on winning the BYIG Guru Contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NBIceman 07/27/17 1:52:56 AM #19: |
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NBIceman 07/27/17 1:58:31 AM #20: |
You're a DG fan, right voltch?
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voltch 07/27/17 2:02:09 AM #21: |
Well it won't be Verserk or Tribe Vanguard.
Maximum are too new and if you're gonna try and give Doi the ball, don't cut his legs off now. I just want Over Generation to be over already. Jimmyz might be a longstanding stable, but without it, too many guys end up in the lurch. --- Congrats to Eli Ayase's #1 fan BK_Sheikah00 on winning the BYIG Guru Contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom Bombadil 07/27/17 7:07:59 AM #22: |
Hotter AND better wrestler? I feel like these are fighting words but you have my attention.
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muddersmilk 07/27/17 3:52:51 PM #23: |
I want Yano on a King of Trios team.
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scarletspeed7 07/27/17 3:53:54 PM #24: |
muddersmilk posted...
I want Yano on a King of Trios team. Yano, Eugene, Laurel van Ness --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninkendo 07/27/17 6:49:50 PM #25: |
Lesnar’s advocate Paul Heyman dropped the news on Twitter on Thursday afternoon: Brock will defend the Universal Championship against Samoa Joe this Saturday, July 29, at the Joe Louis Arena in Detroit, Michigan. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 07/27/17 6:58:30 PM #26: |
Wait a second.
I'm going to next week's RAW... and they're going to have Roman vs Joe vs Strowman!? They might be giving us a good main event!? Did WWE forget where RAW is going to be!? I am, daresay, excited to go to RAW now for the show for the actual show for a change! --- Check out my entertainment blog!: www.heroicbiz.com I discuss video games, comics, movies, and TV! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GTM 07/27/17 8:38:27 PM #27: |
Lopen posted...
No NJPW is not like CHIKARA I don't know either! Just asking based on the clip and the discussion. --- BK_Sheikah00 beated me in some contest Boko United - survivor and dillos and nintendo and caelus and wrestling and uca ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 07/27/17 9:23:59 PM #28: |
https://twitter.com/WNSource/status/890695785976877057
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TheRock1525 07/27/17 10:14:47 PM #29: |
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FFDragon 07/27/17 10:26:11 PM #30: |
Buan Ruan Ruan Ruan Ruan Ruan Ruan away oh oh
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paulg235 07/28/17 12:22:39 PM #31: |
Elias has become the most recent victim of the "Shortened name" disease.
Can his name just be El Vagabundo from this point forward, instead? --- PaulG235 | "But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant." This line is currently being vacanted by supreme Guru BKSheikah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 07/28/17 1:15:27 PM #32: |
I don't know why he can't be The Drifter still. That's an awesome nickname.
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scarletspeed7 07/28/17 1:29:13 PM #33: |
paulg235 posted...
Elias has become the most recent victim of the "Shortened name" disease. No because we don't want him to get over. --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eaedwards6400 07/28/17 1:46:50 PM #34: |
How long until Dash and Dawson are just Dash and Dawson
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scarletspeed7 07/28/17 1:49:30 PM #35: |
That's one I would totally be okay with.
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ninkendo 07/28/17 1:52:35 PM #36: |
Top Guys vs. NERDS
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scarletspeed7 07/28/17 1:56:32 PM #37: |
Slycooper can wrestle?
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ninkendo 07/28/17 3:13:32 PM #38: |
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Strife2 07/28/17 4:06:26 PM #39: |
The BIG SHOW?
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GTM 07/28/17 9:15:20 PM #40: |
how long until Buddy Murphy becomes just Murphy?
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scarletspeed7 07/28/17 9:16:30 PM #41: |
That probably won't happen before he is released.
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PrivateBiscuit1 07/29/17 9:14:00 AM #42: |
So Bo Dallas is insane.
Just listen to Talk is Jericho. --- Check out my entertainment blog!: www.heroicbiz.com I discuss video games, comics, movies, and TV! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScareChan 07/29/17 2:15:12 PM #43: |
I am craving some good wwe stuff
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eaedwards6400 07/29/17 6:09:27 PM #44: |
ScareChan posted...
I am craving some good wwe stuff I think Sultan has a topic for this --- Brought to you by GameFlux Free GameFAQs app on Google Play! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eddv 07/29/17 7:10:51 PM #45: |
If you want to go feel hype as hell go watch Summerslam 1991.
That whole event is super stupid but the commitment for each of the angles is out of this world. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason http://i.imgur.com/chXIw06.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 07/29/17 9:01:53 PM #46: |
My first PPV I ever bought!
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Jakyl25 07/29/17 9:03:19 PM #47: |
Updating some databases I haven't touched in awhile
Charlotte knocked AJ Lee out of the all-time WWE Women's/Diva's Title Cumulative top ten 1.) Fabulous Moolah - 10,778 (674) 2.) Trish Stratus - 828 3.) Beth Phoenix - 571 4.) Alundra Blayze - 539 5.) Rockin' Robin - 502 6.) Michelle McCool - 496 7.) Wendi Richter - 449 8.) Mickie James - 445 9.) Sherri Martel - 441 10.) Charlotte Flair - 438 11.) AJ Lee - 406 12.) Melina - 398 13.) Ivory - 331 14.) Nikki Bella - 307 15.) Molly Holly - 301 16.) Layla - 271 17.) Maryse - 265 18.) Eve Torres - 260 19.) Victoria - 244 20.) Chyna - 214 21.) Alexa Bliss - 200+ 22.) Sable - 176 23.) Jazz - 162 24.) Lita - 160 25.) Kaitlyn - 153 26.) Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley - 146 27.) Bull Nakano - 134 28.) Naomi - 126+ 29.) Paige - 119 30.) Jacqueline - 117 31.) Candice Michelle - 105 32.) Kelly Kelly - 104 33.) Becky Lynch - 84 34.) Bayley - 76 35.) Sasha Banks - 74 36.) Brie Bella - 70 37.) Natalya - 70 38.) Bertha Faye - 57 39.) Alicia Fox - 56 40.) The Kat - 50 41.) Leilani Kai - 41 42.) Debra - 29 43.) Gail Kim - 28 44.) Velvet McIntyre - 6 45.) Hervina - 1 46.) Jillian Hall - 0 --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 07/29/17 10:56:55 PM #48: |
1.) Fabulous Moolah - 10,778 (674) This is so goddamn ridiculous. --- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://i.imgur.com/W66HUUy.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strife2 07/29/17 11:00:01 PM #49: |
Trish had about 6-7 reigns and Beth was the best person in a bad situation. It's not that nuts.
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SmartMuffin 07/29/17 11:04:48 PM #50: |
I just mean the spread between 1 2 and 3
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