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--kresnik--
07/28/17 4:54:09 PM
#52:


Ms13 are not just random citizens getting beaten for smarting off. These guys kill people in some of the most terrifying ways imaginable. They are turf-based and have expanded too far. Not to mention, they are responsible for drug traffic.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/28/17 4:55:31 PM
#53:


s0nicfan posted...
iamintents posted...

yeah cuz cops will only do it to them not to any innocent suspects.........how can you trumpeters be this myopic?


Context matters. There's a significant difference between:
"Trump tells cops at speech outlining strategies to deal with child trafficking gang to not worry about their head bumping on the frame of the cruiser"
and
"Trump tells cops to stop being nice & rough up people they arrest"


I agree with this
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X777WgpUYZ5Hv23
07/28/17 4:57:37 PM
#54:


I honestly could understand some of the viewpoints if they were happy to admit they didn't do much research into ms-13 but the fact they seem to ignore what ms-13 is, the fact that rape is encouraged as punishment, torture is common and so on, makes me think they're simply raging against cops in general.
Which is insanely ignorant.
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metralo
07/28/17 4:57:42 PM
#55:


s0nicfan posted...

You must be trolling if you're legit equating police brutality with "don't stress if they bump their head getting into the squad car"


if you can't see the message behind that sentence you're incredibly dense
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Forever_Black
07/28/17 4:59:12 PM
#56:


Lmao trump used this example of a person that murdered someone and you fools are flipping this the fuck out and making it about full blown police brutality. This is why I hate liberals. And I hate conservatives too but the Liberals make it hard for me to join their fight.
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The Deadpool
07/28/17 5:00:35 PM
#57:


BillyKidd posted...
Is it okay to punch a nazi?


It is not okay for the President to punch a Nazi.

An individual is not a government.
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Bluebomber182
07/28/17 5:05:03 PM
#59:


im not even a liberal so try again. again ms13 are evil pieces of shit but a lines gotta be drawn somewhere. lock these fuckers up & throw the key away but i dont stand for them getting roughed up since itll have a dangerous snowball effect
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Axiom
07/28/17 5:05:41 PM
#60:


If gunning down random innocent people is being nice then I'd really hate to see it when they aren't
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HylianFox
07/28/17 5:07:14 PM
#61:


Because more violent rhetoric is what we need right now

Thanks, Trump
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Superlinkbro
07/28/17 5:07:58 PM
#62:


Wow I have no words...
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EverDownward
07/28/17 5:09:19 PM
#63:


It's MS-13. These are not your average criminals. Do you think they'd afford cops the same kind of politeness you so desperately want the cops to afford them?
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EverDownward
07/28/17 5:10:19 PM
#65:


shockthemonkey posted...
EverDownward posted...
It's MS-13. These are not your average criminals. Do you think they'd afford cops the same kind of politeness you so desperately want the cops to afford them?

...politeness?

Did I stutter?
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Bishop9800
07/28/17 5:10:37 PM
#66:


X777WgpUYZ5Hv23 posted...
Karma: 19

Can you not fall for new troll accounts ^__^



And what do you think you are?
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Forever_Black
07/28/17 5:34:48 PM
#67:


shockthemonkey posted...
Forever_Black posted...
Lmao trump used this example of a person that murdered someone and you fools are flipping this the fuck out and making it about full blown police brutality. This is why I hate liberals. And I hate conservatives too but the Liberals make it hard for me to join their fight.

Yeah that's the thing about civilized countries - gotta act civilized even in the face of shitbags. That's not negotiable. You don't give a scumbag an excuse to sue. You do everything right and by the book and let him be properly punished by the system. That's the fucking point.


Blah blah blah those guys are pieces of shit and if they give the cops a hard time, they definitely deserve it. Is it PC? No but I don't give af about shitheads. And this is talking about being a little rough and a head bang, not shooting or Rodney King a mf.
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3rd_Best_Master
07/28/17 5:37:54 PM
#68:


Forever_Black posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Forever_Black posted...
Lmao trump used this example of a person that murdered someone and you fools are flipping this the fuck out and making it about full blown police brutality. This is why I hate liberals. And I hate conservatives too but the Liberals make it hard for me to join their fight.

Yeah that's the thing about civilized countries - gotta act civilized even in the face of shitbags. That's not negotiable. You don't give a scumbag an excuse to sue. You do everything right and by the book and let him be properly punished by the system. That's the fucking point.


Blah blah blah those guys are pieces of shit and if they give the cops a hard time, they definitely deserve it. Is it PC? No but I don't give af about shitheads. And this is talking about being a little rough and a head bang, not shooting or Rodney King a mf.

You'll give a shit when each and every one of them receives millions in settlement money that they'll receive due to unnecessarily rough treatment at the hands of the police, all paid for with your tax dollars.
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X777WgpUYZ5Hv23
07/28/17 5:39:25 PM
#70:


shockthemonkey posted...
but we got a

You're Canadian.
Trump doesn't have (AFAIK) the rights to decide how Canadian police can act.
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3rd_Best_Master
07/28/17 5:41:45 PM
#72:


Spooking posted...
Robocop also broke the law, but people defended him.

Also, look at NYC now. Do you think it's a great city? If so, thank cops from the 60's and 70's (and possibly 80's) who cracked heads. NYC was a hellhole back in the day before cops broke some rules to get that city into the shape it is in today.

The reduction in crime coincides with a national trend that saw a decrease in crime all over the nation, and not just in cities that lost millions in settlement money due to overzealous policing.
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Freddie_Mercury
07/28/17 5:43:07 PM
#73:


why are people interpreting "don't beat detained suspects" as "let criminals do whatever they want"
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butthole666
07/28/17 5:44:43 PM
#75:


Trump is literally mirroring the behavior of the nazi party now lol
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s0nicfan
07/28/17 5:46:05 PM
#76:


Freddie_Mercury posted...
why are people interpreting "don't beat detained suspects" as "let criminals do whatever they want"


Why are people interpreting "you don't have to go out of your way to keep from bruising a known murderer" as "let cops do whatever they want"
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Vertania
07/28/17 5:46:19 PM
#77:


Freddie_Mercury posted...
why are people interpreting "don't beat detained suspects" as "let criminals do whatever they want"

Where are you getting this from?
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3rd_Best_Master
07/28/17 5:47:11 PM
#78:


Vertania posted...
Freddie_Mercury posted...
why are people interpreting "don't beat detained suspects" as "let criminals do whatever they want"

Where are you getting this from?

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75614690
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SGT_Conti
07/28/17 5:47:31 PM
#79:


X777WgpUYZ5Hv23 posted...
Trump was giving a speech detailing the administration's plan to defeat the MS-13 gang
Oh, the gang that engages in child prostitution?
That one? Yeah, I'm not gonna lose sleep over this

What if they do it to someone who actually wasn't guilty of what they thought? Or if an injury from it prevented them from testifying? There are multiple reasons, humanitarian and practical, that I find it completely baffling anyone would support police brutality in any fashion.

The moment when you selectively protect rights is when they stop being rights at all. There's no half-measures where you can arbitrarily ignore proper procedure because you might as well throw out the procedure entirely.
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Vertania
07/28/17 5:49:26 PM
#80:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75614690

So... who, specifically, has said that?
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GuyCarlPeterson
07/28/17 5:51:41 PM
#81:


s0nicfan posted...
Trump was giving a speech detailing the administration's plan to defeat the MS-13 gang.

Those poor murdering gangbangers!
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X777WgpUYZ5Hv23
07/28/17 5:54:19 PM
#83:


SGT_Conti posted...
X777WgpUYZ5Hv23 posted...
Trump was giving a speech detailing the administration's plan to defeat the MS-13 gang
Oh, the gang that engages in child prostitution?
That one? Yeah, I'm not gonna lose sleep over this

What if they do it to someone who actually wasn't guilty of what they thought? Or if an injury from it prevented them from testifying? There are multiple reasons, humanitarian and practical, that I find it completely baffling anyone would support police brutality in any fashion.

The moment when you selectively protect rights is when they stop being rights at all. There's no half-measures where you can arbitrarily ignore proper procedure because you might as well throw out the procedure entirely.

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Vertania
07/28/17 5:56:34 PM
#84:


shockthemonkey posted...
Yeah but who needs logic when you can have senseless rhetoric?

You mean like "Trump tells police to rough up anybody they arrest?"
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Forever_Black
07/28/17 5:57:01 PM
#85:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
Forever_Black posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Forever_Black posted...
Lmao trump used this example of a person that murdered someone and you fools are flipping this the fuck out and making it about full blown police brutality. This is why I hate liberals. And I hate conservatives too but the Liberals make it hard for me to join their fight.

Yeah that's the thing about civilized countries - gotta act civilized even in the face of shitbags. That's not negotiable. You don't give a scumbag an excuse to sue. You do everything right and by the book and let him be properly punished by the system. That's the fucking point.


Blah blah blah those guys are pieces of shit and if they give the cops a hard time, they definitely deserve it. Is it PC? No but I don't give af about shitheads. And this is talking about being a little rough and a head bang, not shooting or Rodney King a mf.

You'll give a shit when each and every one of them receives millions in settlement money that they'll receive due to unnecessarily rough treatment at the hands of the police, all paid for with your tax dollars.


True but being rough doesn't equate to beating the fuck out of them. I don't agree on beating a handcuffed criminal piece of shit. Just allowing his head to bump onto the top of the car when you show have been protecting it isn't a lawsuit waiting to happen
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GuyCarlPeterson
07/28/17 6:53:34 PM
#86:


Vertania posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Yeah but who needs logic when you can have senseless rhetoric?

You mean like "Trump tells police to rough up anybody they arrest?"

I wouldn't bother with Shock.
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cjsdowg
07/28/17 7:18:45 PM
#87:


BillyKidd posted...


if they can't cut up people's statements to prove an argument, they have nothing.


He is still suggesting throwing people who have not been found guilty around. You can't clean that shit up.
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The Admiral
07/28/17 7:24:53 PM
#88:


Won't someone please, please think of these poor gangbangers.
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Vertania
07/28/17 7:39:09 PM
#89:


cjsdowg posted...
He is still suggesting throwing people who have not been found guilty around. You can't clean that shit up.

And major news sites are still headlining articles to make it look like he's telling all police to beat all criminals:

"Trump tells police not to worry about injuring suspects during arrests"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/07/28/trump-tells-police-not-to-worry-about-injuring-suspects-during-arrests/?utm_term=.f993c8d72579

"Trump to Police: 'Don't Be Too Nice' To Suspects"
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-police-don-t-be-too-nice-suspects-n787646

"Donald Trump Endorses Police Brutality In Speech To Cops"
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_597b840fe4b02a8434b6575a

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NibeIungsnarf
07/28/17 7:40:28 PM
#90:


Vertania posted...
And manor news sites are still headlining articles to make it look like he's telling all police to beat all criminals:

Because he is.
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cjsdowg
07/28/17 7:49:54 PM
#91:


Vertania posted...

And major news sites are still headlining articles to make it look like he's telling all police to beat all criminals:


Trump

Then you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddywagon, you just see them thrown in, rough, I said, ‘Please don’t be too nice,” Trump Trump said while addressing a crowd of law enforcement officers and the families of crime victims.


Yeah is telling cops to rough people up. So you think we should pick and choice what criminals we rough up. How about someone who scams college students out of millions , how about someone who doesn't rent to black people, how about someone who grabs women without asking. I guess we have to be nice to those people.
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Vertania
07/28/17 7:54:33 PM
#92:


cjsdowg posted...
So you think we should pick and choice what criminals we rough up. How about someone who scams college students out of millions, how about someone who doesn't rent to black people, how about someone who grabs women without asking. I guess we have to be nice to those people.

I mean, they're not selling children into sex slavery, so...
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coolboy11
07/28/17 8:02:19 PM
#93:


dude is such utter trash, a decent nation and party would have ran this man off months ago but as it currently stands....
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Nomadic View
07/28/17 8:05:18 PM
#94:


Liberals willing to side with literal child rapists and human traffickers as long as Trump opposes them.

Keep up the madness. This is why Trump won. We need you to keep posting this nonsense for his reelection.
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NurseRedHeart
07/28/17 8:06:06 PM
#95:


I agree with what he said, fuck criminals
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DirkDiggles
07/28/17 8:07:00 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/28/17 8:07:50 PM
#97:


Wasn't a cop shot dead the other night checking an accident. There's a lot of crazy people out there and cops need to be ready.
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Dabrikishaw15
07/28/17 8:20:02 PM
#98:


He's one step closer to making police brutality acceptable.
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Vertania
07/28/17 8:25:33 PM
#99:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
Because he is.

This guy is proof of the harm those pointed headlines have.

Some people apparently have a complete inability to read or comprehend full articles, so they take the headline to be the full story.
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SGT_Conti
07/28/17 8:26:22 PM
#100:


X777WgpUYZ5Hv23 posted...
SGT_Conti posted...
X777WgpUYZ5Hv23 posted...
Trump was giving a speech detailing the administration's plan to defeat the MS-13 gang
Oh, the gang that engages in child prostitution?
That one? Yeah, I'm not gonna lose sleep over this

What if they do it to someone who actually wasn't guilty of what they thought? Or if an injury from it prevented them from testifying? There are multiple reasons, humanitarian and practical, that I find it completely baffling anyone would support police brutality in any fashion.

The moment when you selectively protect rights is when they stop being rights at all. There's no half-measures where you can arbitrarily ignore proper procedure because you might as well throw out the procedure entirely.

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RchHomieQuanChi
07/28/17 8:27:03 PM
#101:


Not really understanding the benefits of police doing this, but okay Mr. President.
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