Current Events > A possible eugenics question.

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Personally, I'm for abortion until the third trimester, at which point there needs to be a medical reason.

Say prenatal testing grows to the point where we can tell a kid is gay. For realistic purposes, use finding out the kid has Down Syndrome.

Would that be acceptable grounds for an abortion?

(I personally want to advance genetic engineering to where we can eradicate things like Huntington's and cystic fibrosis before it happens, but that'd end with more than one person I respect on this board dead.)

It's a great moral quandary of mine.

(Made with a less stupid topic title)
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No
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When the new god is born, it will redesign us humans
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solosnake posted...

When the new god is born, it will redesign us humans

We can already redesign humans.

By what do you mean?
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Being gay is not the same as having a kid with down syndrome.

And having a kid with down syndrome is hard but its not the end of the world. I think if we start getting to the point of aborting a kid with any imperfection we're gonna start hitting a slippery slope
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I4NRulez posted...

Being gay is not the same as having a kid with down syndrome.

And having a kid with down syndrome is hard but its not the end of the world. I think if we start getting to the point of aborting a kid with any imperfection we're gonna start hitting a slippery slope

I know it isn't the same, just the simplest genetic disorder I could think of people would recognize. Could have used Marfan's syndrome to similar effect, but it's less known.

And that's precisely what I was aiming for.

Where is the line?
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I think CE would breed homosexuality out of the human race among other things because they'd rather eliminate biological diversity than fix social issues.
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You shouldn't be disallowed to have an abortion based on your reason for having said abortion.

That's dumb.

We'd might as well be the society in Brave New World
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

You shouldn't be disallowed to have an abortion based on your reason for having said abortion.

That's dumb.

Exactly my conundrum.

I believe in abortion, yet it opens the door for people to have abortions based on reasons that are distasteful to the typical leftist in terms of race or gender or genetics.
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DrizztLink posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

You shouldn't be disallowed to have an abortion based on your reason for having said abortion.

That's dumb.

Exactly my conundrum.

I believe in abortion, yet it opens the door for people to have abortions based on reasons that are distasteful to the typical leftist in terms of race or gender or genetics.

They should probably suck it up and realize that getting legislation they want might lead to things they didn't intent.

I4NRulez posted...

having a kid with down syndrome is hard but its not the end of the world. I think if we start getting to the point of aborting a kid with any imperfection we're gonna start hitting a slippery slope

It's not the end of the world but it is a pretty big ball and chain.
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DrizztLink posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

You shouldn't be disallowed to have an abortion based on your reason for having said abortion.

That's dumb.

Exactly my conundrum.

I believe in abortion, yet it opens the door for people to have abortions based on reasons that are distasteful to the typical leftist in terms of race or gender or genetics.

People already get abortions for the reason that's it's a girl in some parts of the world.

I'm against abortion for any reason period.
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This topic will end well, I'm sure.
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I'm for abortion but I don't know when the cut off should be because I'm not an expert on the health risks or anything like that. Being able to abort because of birth defects is a debate I don't really know. However, homosexuality is not dangerous and is not a valid reason to abort a child.

That being said, I'm still not sure what the fuck you are trying to ask us here.

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Dash_Harber posted...

However, homosexuality is not dangerous and is not a valid reason to abort a child.

That being said, I'm still not sure what the fuck you are trying to ask us here.

homosexuality is not dangerous and is not a valid reason to abort a child.

More or less that.

Where is the line drawn?
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Dash_Harber posted...

homosexuality is not dangerous and is not a valid reason to abort a child.

Why should a woman need a reason you deem valid to have an abortion?

DrizztLink posted...

More or less that.

Where is the line drawn?

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

homosexuality is not dangerous and is not a valid reason to abort a child.

Why should a woman need a reason you deem valid to have an abortion?

He actually asked if homosexuality would be a valid excuse for an abortion if abortions were only allowed for medical reasons. I'm just answering that.

Dash_Harber posted...

DrizztLink posted...

More or less that.

Where is the line drawn?

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

homosexuality is not dangerous and is not a valid reason to abort a child.

Why should a woman need a reason you deem valid to have an abortion?

He actually asked if homosexuality would be a valid excuse for an abortion if abortions were only allowed for mewilldical reasons. I'm just answering that.

I'm opening the debate beyond that, though.

Like I said in OP, I'm for abortion until the third trimester barring specific circumstances (Mother WILL die in birth, kid WILL have terrible disease and die shortly re: harlequin fetus.)

But in the event a parent could both know a child's sexuality/gender identity and be willing to abort because of that issue, would I be ok with it?

I'm fine with abortion, but this stretches my personal code.
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DrizztLink posted...

But in the event a parent could both know a child's sexuality/gender identity and be willing to abort because of that issue, would I be ok with it?

They'd be assholes and that is a stupid reason, but yeah, it's their choice.

From my perspective, women should legally be able to have an abortion for any reason they see fit at any point during their pregnancy.

I don't have to agree with their reasons, or timing. Not my choice, and not my problem.