Current Events > Wait so in Matrix 1 why was the Oracle (Spoilers)

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Touch
08/07/17 10:35:13 PM
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Wrong about Neo being the one? I'm rewatching the trilogy since its been a long ass time.

Was it to show that even though The Oracle was a predicting program Neo was able to ascend her prediction since he, as The One, was above any predicting algorithm?

Also wtf I just saw Memento and the bald guy in Matrix was in both movies. What a fucking coincidence

Also how the fuck Morpheus pop his sunglasses on when they got no ear connector thingies
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boxington
08/07/17 10:37:42 PM
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I haven't seen the movie in a long time, but didn't she just say that because Neo needed to believe that he was the One, regardless of what anyone else said?
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Etherealfare
08/07/17 10:38:04 PM
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The Oracle wasn't wrong about Neo being The One...she told him he was waiting for another life. Smith killed him, he stood up and was The One.
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Touch
08/07/17 10:39:29 PM
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Etherealfare posted...
The Oracle wasn't wrong about Neo being The One...she told him he was waiting for another life. Smith killed him, he stood up and was The One.

True. So he just needed to Jesus/Harry Potter
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Touch
08/07/17 10:40:55 PM
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Also fuck Baldy. Tank was the coolest motherfucker on the ship
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Damien747
08/07/17 10:41:44 PM
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The Oracle told Neo what he needed to hear, not necessarily the truth.

Joe Pantoliano was also in The Goonies!

Morpheus' sun glasses affix to the bridge of his nose (Those "ear connector thingies" are called arms).
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Ruvan22
08/07/17 10:45:41 PM
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Damien747 posted...
The Oracle told Neo what he needed to hear, not necessarily the truth.

Joe Pantoliano was also in The Goonies!

Morpheus' sun glasses affix to the bridge of his nose (Those "ear connector thingies" are called arms).


And in Bad Boys!
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Etherealfare
08/07/17 10:45:48 PM
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Touch posted...
Etherealfare posted...
The Oracle wasn't wrong about Neo being The One...she told him he was waiting for another life. Smith killed him, he stood up and was The One.

True. So he just needed to Jesus/Harry Potter

He needed to believe that The Matrix was fake and getting killed in it didn't mean much of anything
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Aristoph
08/07/17 10:48:57 PM
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I always looked at it not like the Oracle just predicted the future, but she set the wheels in motion to create the future that she wanted.
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Touch
08/07/17 11:05:33 PM
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Etherealfare posted...
Touch posted...
Etherealfare posted...
The Oracle wasn't wrong about Neo being The One...she told him he was waiting for another life. Smith killed him, he stood up and was The One.

True. So he just needed to Jesus/Harry Potter

He needed to believe that The Matrix was fake and getting killed in it didn't mean much of anything

But I mean, he didnt see it but Mouse got killed in the matrix and he died so that kinda nixes that.

I wonder if Neo died again post awakening in the matrix would he just revive again?
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Etherealfare
08/07/17 11:10:46 PM
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Touch posted...
Etherealfare posted...
Touch posted...
Etherealfare posted...
The Oracle wasn't wrong about Neo being The One...she told him he was waiting for another life. Smith killed him, he stood up and was The One.

True. So he just needed to Jesus/Harry Potter

He needed to believe that The Matrix was fake and getting killed in it didn't mean much of anything

But I mean, he didnt see it but Mouse got killed in the matrix and he died so that kinda nixes that.

I wonder if Neo died again post awakening in the matrix would he just revive again?

That is true, however Mouse was not...


"When the Matrix was first built, there was a man born inside who had the ability to change whatever he wanted, to remake the Matrix as he saw fit. It was he who freed the first of us, taught us the truth - As long as the Matrix exists, the human race will never be free. After he died, the Oracle prophesied his return and his coming would hail the destruction of the Matrix, end the war, bring freedom to our people. That is why there are those who have spent our entire lives searching the Matrix looking for him."

"I did what I did because, I believe that search is over."


able to change the Matrix as he saw fit. Neo was finally able to realize 'I have power over this system, this system does not have power over me'.
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SomeLikeItHoth
08/07/17 11:12:27 PM
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Because Neo didn't believe in fate. He wanted to decide his future for himself.
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AlCalavicci
08/07/17 11:15:37 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Damien747 posted...
The Oracle told Neo what he needed to hear, not necessarily the truth.

Joe Pantoliano was also in The Goonies!

Morpheus' sun glasses affix to the bridge of his nose (Those "ear connector thingies" are called arms).


And in Bad Boys!


And Daredevil!
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Kajagogo
08/07/17 11:18:19 PM
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AlCalavicci posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Damien747 posted...
The Oracle told Neo what he needed to hear, not necessarily the truth.

Joe Pantoliano was also in The Goonies!

Morpheus' sun glasses affix to the bridge of his nose (Those "ear connector thingies" are called arms).


And in Bad Boys!


And Daredevil!


And Baby's Day Out
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Touch
08/07/17 11:34:15 PM
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Duuuuuude. Baby's day out! Had that shit on VHS!

Also fuck yeah Tank tanked it! Dont know how I forgot that lol. I love waiting a long time to rewatch stuff
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AlCalavicci
08/07/17 11:51:03 PM
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Kajagogo posted...
AlCalavicci posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Damien747 posted...
The Oracle told Neo what he needed to hear, not necessarily the truth.

Joe Pantoliano was also in The Goonies!

Morpheus' sun glasses affix to the bridge of his nose (Those "ear connector thingies" are called arms).


And in Bad Boys!


And Daredevil!


And Baby's Day Out


Whaat really? Was he the baby?
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Amenadeel
08/08/17 12:18:12 AM
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It's called a Pince-nez
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weapon_d00d816
08/08/17 12:28:02 AM
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Touch posted...

Also how the fuck Morpheus pop his sunglasses on when they got no ear connector thingies

Same reason he can leap 200 feet

Matrix haxx
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Kajagogo
08/08/17 12:33:02 AM
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AlCalavicci posted...
Kajagogo posted...
AlCalavicci posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Damien747 posted...
The Oracle told Neo what he needed to hear, not necessarily the truth.

Joe Pantoliano was also in The Goonies!

Morpheus' sun glasses affix to the bridge of his nose (Those "ear connector thingies" are called arms).


And in Bad Boys!


And Daredevil!


And Baby's Day Out


Whaat really? Was he the baby?


What? How old do you think Joe is?
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Touch
08/08/17 12:36:31 AM
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Just finished it. Man such a good first movie. Great to see a young Neo and how he eventually turned into John Wick.
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Manocheese
08/08/17 12:49:06 AM
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Now try to make sense of the sequels. =P
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WaterLink
08/08/17 12:50:43 AM
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Manocheese posted...
Now try to make sense of the sequels. =P

I liked Reloaded. Revolutions just sucked except for the last 20 minutes or so.

Animatrix had some pretty good short story spinoffs as well
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AlCalavicci
08/08/17 1:43:08 AM
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Kajagogo posted...
AlCalavicci posted...
Kajagogo posted...
AlCalavicci posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Damien747 posted...
The Oracle told Neo what he needed to hear, not necessarily the truth.

Joe Pantoliano was also in The Goonies!

Morpheus' sun glasses affix to the bridge of his nose (Those "ear connector thingies" are called arms).


And in Bad Boys!


And Daredevil!


And Baby's Day Out


Whaat really? Was he the baby?


What? How old do you think Joe is?


Yes.
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Touch
08/08/17 2:29:44 AM
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I dont like how they took out Tank from the second movie >:(

Also did anyone play the Matrix game for PS2 where you play as Ghost or Niobe?
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WaterLink
08/08/17 2:31:10 AM
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Touch posted...
I dont like how they took out Tank from the second movie >:(

Also did anyone play the Matrix game for PS2 where you play as Ghost or Niobe?

Enter the Matrix? Yeah? It was actually a decent game. Plus the hacking minigame to unlock cheats was pretty innovative
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Touch
08/08/17 2:35:04 AM
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WaterLink posted...
Touch posted...
I dont like how they took out Tank from the second movie >:(

Also did anyone play the Matrix game for PS2 where you play as Ghost or Niobe?

Enter the Matrix? Yeah? It was actually a decent game. Plus the hacking minigame to unlock cheats was pretty innovative

Yeah! Thats what I really loved about it! The hacking! Young dumbass me loved doing it and having Neo talk to me lol
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WaterLink
08/08/17 2:40:38 AM
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Touch posted...
Yeah! Thats what I really loved about it! The hacking! Young dumbass me loved doing it and having Neo talk to me lol

I just remember when I first got the sword. Like, over.

Kinda like how they did the slow mo. Like that was already done in max pane but it was different in this game. Also you didn't drive wooden stakes through people in max payns
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Touch
08/08/17 2:44:43 AM
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Haha yeah. It was so weird because ya know. In a game like the Matrix with all these guns and shit you receive a sword. Then you realize its your one reliable way of killing agents so then its like omg
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WaterLink
08/08/17 2:54:36 AM
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I do remember one mission where I think you played as ghost and you had to cover niobe from basically a skyscraper. Think you had a sniper rifle for this mission? Always seemed to fail it because you were expected to move from room to room and sometimes she'd die in transition. Just sucked.

Main criticism of that game was the vehicle missions, those fucking SUCKED
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Touch
08/08/17 3:00:43 AM
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Yeah. The driving in that game was clunky as fuck lol. Thats why I always chose Ghost because he was the weapons expert and Niobe is the driver. Also cuz hes a swaggy asian man.
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stoltenberg11
08/08/17 3:05:37 AM
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Aristoph posted...
I always looked at it not like the Oracle just predicted the future, but she set the wheels in motion to create the future that she wanted.

This is true, and she confirms it in the last scene of Revolutions when she has her conversation with The Architect
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