Board 8 > White House staffer pens memo calling out the deep state and cultural marxism

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https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/10/heres-the-memo-that-blew-up-the-nsc/

McMaster fired him upon reading it... lol

The article aside, the memo itself is ESSENTIAL reading!
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To 500?
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Trump wants to start WW3 with NK.
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people should stop writing memos
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Good people are in charge.

scarletspeed7 posted...

To 500?

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"Surprising" silence from the cultural marxists here.
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Vlado posted...

"Surprising" silence from the cultural marxists here.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

To 500?

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Vlado posted...

McMaster fired him upon reading it... lol

Because the memo showed that he was a crazy person who had no business being in any position of responsibility, much less in a critical security role.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Trump wants to start WW3 with NK.

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Vlado posted...

"Surprising" silence from the cultural marxists here.

I'm going to start posting this in every unpopular Gopic I make.
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I mean, yeah, "Cultural Marxism" is a term originating in Nazi Germany as "Cultural Bolshevism", which justified persecution of Jews by claiming that they were secretly spreading culture the Nazis saw as undesirable (according to the propaganda, communism and sexual liberation).

The modern day version is...remarkably similar to its Nazi origins, TBH, basically just a conspiracy theory about Jews spreading culture.

It's not exactly news that there's a handful of Neo-Nazis in Washington right now. It's also true that they're generally getting kicked out of or sidelined from this administration (which is a good thing).
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Because the memo showed that he was a crazy person who had no business being in any position of responsibility, much less in a critical security role.

metroid composite posted...

I mean, yeah, "Cultural Marxism" is a term originating in Nazi Germany as "Cultural Bolshevism", which justified persecution of Jews by claiming that they were secretly spreading culture the Nazis saw as undesirable (according to the propaganda, communism and sexual liberation).

The modern day version is...remarkably similar to its Nazi origins, TBH, basically just a conspiracy theory about Jews spreading culture.

It's not exactly news that there's a handful of Neo-Nazis in Washington right now. It's also true that they're generally getting kicked out of or sidelined from this administration (which is a good thing).

lmao, how predictable. "It's just some crazy nazi lunatic who hates jews, it's all just crazy talk, please don't take it seriously, guys!"

Calling someone "crazy" or a "nazi" doesn't magically make what they said any less true. Besides, to you guys, anyone who isn't far left-wing is a "nazi," anyway. Your labels are devoid of any meaning.

The man's brilliant analysis of the enemies of all that is just and moral, among whose tools you are, must have really triggered you.

Your refusal to address all the valid observations in what he wrote says it all.
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A simple explanation about why it's called "cultural marxism." (Hint: it's not a neo-nazi conspiracy.)

You know economic marxism, right? It's the movement whose goal is to eliminate all economic differences between people. It seeks a world where everyone is economically equal.

Your movement aims to eliminate all cultural differences between people. It seeks a world where everyone is culturally equal. Thus, it's natural to call it "cultural marxism."

Naturally, it fails just like economic marxism failed. Nothing that goes against human nature can ever be successful.

That said, cultural marxism is merely a tool of globalism. Its failure is not enough to destroy globalism, but it facilitates it because when the false morality you guys preach is exposed as the anti-human agenda that it is, it's that much harder for globalism to contain normal people.

This exposure has been going on since GamerGate, and there's no stopping the tide. Thanks to the internet, it gets bigger every day. And it's already big enough that not even total internet censorship (and google are working on that: look up "perspective") can stop it.

As to why you're tools of globalists, the man wrote it best:

While there is certainly a Marxist agenda and even lslamist motivations that must be seriously addressed in their own right, these motivations alone seem inadequate to explain the scope and magnitude of the effort directed against the president. The economic drivers behind the Marxist and Islamist ideologues are enormously influential and seek to leverage these ideological movements for their own self interests. While beyond the actual scope of this document, the benefactors of these political movements include; Urban Real Estate who depend greatly on immigrant tenants, International Banking who seeks to maintain US debtor status so as to control the application of American power, and elements of the business sector that depend upon immigrant labor or government infrastructure. The overall objective of these economic forces is the forced urbanization of the populace, thereby necessitating a larger, more powerful government. In summary, this is a form of population control by certain business cartels in league with cultural Marxists/corporatists/lslamists who will leverage Islamic terrorism threats to justify the creation of a police state.

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Vlado, if America is literally a nation of immigrants then what exactly would cultural Marxism look like when there's no one culture to our country? If anything, Trump's attempts to limit immigration is actual cultural Marxism.
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Let's not pretend there's no definite American culture. There is, and the people who form it are the ones who elected Trump.
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Vlado posted...

Let's not pretend there's no definite American culture. There is, and the people who form it are the ones who elected Trump.

So what was the definite American Culture that elected Barack Obama twice by much bigger margins?
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I mean, by all means if there is a true definitive American Culture surely you can describe it better than "they elected a 70 year old billionaire New York real estate mogul who grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth, thinks the White House is a dump, and spends more time vacationing than his predecessors."
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A minority of voters represents the culture of a whole nation?
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TheRock1525 posted...

So what was the definite American Culture that elected Barack Obama twice by much bigger margins?

Many of the same people elected Obama, enticed by his anti-war promises that he never kept. They simply woke up to the dangers of globalism in the meantime.
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Vlado posted...

"Surprising" silence from the cultural marxists here.

i don't self-identify as a cultural marxist so why should i respond?
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Vlado posted...

Many of the same people elected Obama, enticed by his anti-war promises that he never kept. They simply woke up to the dangers of globalism in the meantime.

lol

yeah, when i think "american culture" the first thing i think of is definitely "people who are anti-war."
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Vlado posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

So what was the definite American Culture that elected Barack Obama twice by much bigger margins?

Many of the same people elected Obama, enticed by his anti-war promises that he never kept. They simply woke up to the dangers of globalism in the meantime.

And yet Trump is threatening war with North Korea.

Also you still haven't told me what American Culture is.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

yeah, when i think "american culture" the first thing i think of is definitely "people who are anti-war."

Who do they vote for in the elections? Do they not tend to elect the anti-war candidate?

Anyway, let's comment on the document instead of wasting posts arguing over things we've been through a thousand times.
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I can't think of one time you've actually answered what American Culture is and that's kind of a key idea behind this entire manifesto on Cultural Marxism.

Until you answer that question I don't see any point in answering questions about the document because all the points on it are pretty easy to refute otherwise.
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Vlado posted...

Who do they vote for in the elections? Do they not tend to elect the anti-war candidate?

no, not really. you want to argue GWB was a "give peace a chance" candidate?

you could make this argument for the last election, but even then it's pretty ludicrous to make the jump to "american culture is super anti-war." and even then you'd have to ignore that hillary won the popular vote.

Anyway, let's comment on the document instead of wasting posts arguing over things we've been through a thousand times.

from what i understand the document is about how there's a gigantic movement that wants some kind of islamist new world order - the only response i can give to that is a big fat "citation needed." who the hell wants that? i myself don't want a global government, and i'm a militant atheist, so i CERTAINLY don't want a government that has anything to do with islam.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

from what i understand the document is about how there's a gigantic movement that wants some kind of islamist new world order

OK, let's read the document first then because nothing like that's mentioned in it at all (though it does talk about the Muslim Brotherhood organisation, among many other things that are unrelated to islam).
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It's kind of funny that Vlado says he values the existence of a diversity of cultures, but then opposes hiring practices that are designed to take advantage of it.
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Jakyl25 posted...

It's kind of funny that Vlado says he values the existence of a diversity of cultures, but then opposes hiring practices that are designed to take advantage of it.

Address the document instead of trying to bait me in such a weak manner.
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I'm not baiting you, I'm laughing.

Why, IYO, has the President not yet fired McMaster?
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Vlado posted...

OK, let's read the document first then because nothing like that's mentioned in it at all (though it does talk about the Muslim Brotherhood organisation, among many other things that are unrelated to islam).

ok, so it's not about islam. but it is about a movement of people who want a new world order, namely the globalists, correct?
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Vlado really has a hard on for his fanfiction senpai, eh?
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Honestly, would a new world order really be so bad? They couldn't run things much worse than things are now.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

ok, so it's not about islam. but it is about a movement of people who want a new world order, namely the globalists, correct?

Read the document.
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Cultural Marxism? Sounds like a movement that denies that cultural appropriation exists and is a real issue. No thank you.
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Totally read this topic as "penis memo" and now I'm too disappointed to read it rn

Vlado posted...

A simple explanation about why it's called "cultural marxism." (Hint: it's not a neo-nazi conspiracy.)

Well, it's certainly a conspiracy/invented label. I've known people who called themselves marxists; those people literally exist and I've spoken with them. I've never known people who called themselves cultural marxists.

EDIT: As to whether it comes from a Nazi origins...eh, I went through all the cited references for cultural marxism on wikipedia a while back, before the page got merged. A lot of them were just conspiracy rants about Jews. Admittedly, language changes, and it's possible the alt right is using cultural marxism to mean something slightly different than neo-nazis were, but that seems to be the origin of the phrase.

Vlado posted...

Your movement aims to eliminate all cultural differences between people. It seeks a world where everyone is culturally equal. Thus, it's natural to call it "cultural marxism."

Hahahahahahahahhahahaha what? Holy shit. If anything I advocate the exact opposite. I support multiculturalism, which celebrates the fact that there are multiple different cultures in the same country, and celebrates their individuality.

Vlado posted...

Naturally, it fails just like economic marxism failed. Nothing that goes against human nature can ever be successful.

Forcing people to have one culture generally does fail yes, I agree. This is why it's good to embrace multiculturalism. I'm glad we agree Vlado.

Vlado posted...

That said, cultural marxism is merely a tool of globalism. Its failure is not enough to destroy globalism, but it facilitates it because when the false morality you guys preach is exposed as the anti-human agenda that it is, it's that much harder for globalism to contain normal people.

This exposure has been going on since GamerGate, and there's no stopping the tide. Thanks to the internet, it gets bigger every day. And it's already big enough that not even total internet censorship (and google are working on that: look up "perspective") can stop it.

Hmm...not sure what's going on in these paragraphs. Apparently I have an anti-human agenda? (What? That makes no sense; I'm a human). And ok, I looked up perspective:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_(graphical)

Mostly stuff I already knew, but a refresher doesn't hurt.
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metroid composite posted...

Well, it's certainly a conspiracy/invented label. I've known people who called themselves marxists; those people literally exist and I've spoken with them. I've never known people who called themselves cultural marxists.

It doesn't matter what they call themselves. There's a "democratic" party in the US, too. Its authoritarian policies are about anything but democracy. There's a "republican" party in the US, too. Most of its higher ups serve globalists who actively work to destroy the Republic.

metroid composite posted...

Hahahahahahahahhahahaha what? Holy shit. If anything I advocate the exact opposite. I support multiculturalism, which celebrates the fact that there are multiple different cultures in the same country, and celebrates their individuality.

You say that, yet your actions serve people who want to destroy nations and cultures. It doesn't matter if you believe in that or not. It's the result that matters.

Furthermore, in attacking white people and men, you go against your own claim.

metroid composite posted...

Forcing people to have one culture generally does fail yes, I agree. This is why it's good to embrace multiculturalism. I'm glad we agree Vlado.

It's good to embrace that different countries have different cultures, yes. It's good to reject the globalist ideal of destroying them all by perverting them into a single "culture" of mindless consumerism.

metroid composite posted...

Apparently I have an anti-human agenda?

Your actions further the people who do.

Most importantly, comment on the document itself.
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Vlado posted...

Address the document instead of trying to bait me in such a weak manner.

Don't tell people what to do, you condescending, ornery globalist
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velocycloraptor posted...

Totally read this topic as "penis memo" and now I'm too disappointed to read it rn

I swear to fuck I made the other topic before I got this far into this topic
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Vlado posted...

You say that, yet your actions serve people who want to destroy nations and cultures. It doesn't matter if you believe in that or not. It's the result that matters.

If you care so much about culture, why aren't you ever up in arms against the hatred for Jinder Mahal?
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Vlado posted...

Most importantly, comment on the document itself.

It's too long. My consumerism addiction can't pause long enough to read it.
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I live in a predominantly white suburb and work in the city. I literally see two different American cultures on a daily basis.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

I live in a predominantly white suburb

Of course you do.
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You going somewhere with that or?
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I'll address the memo:

Deep state complaints are just conspiracy theory bullshit used by idiot Trump supporters to justify the legitimate hatred by a majority of this country for this administration's self-destructive attempts at policy. Surely it couldn't be the idiocy of electing an inexperienced idiot to lead the country that's the problem. No, it's everyone ELSE'S fault.

Cultural Marxism is bullshit and your continued arguments show a profound misunderstanding of American culture. We are a melting pot that has flourished by taking the best parts of ALL cultures and merging them into a world superpower. Only when racist idiots legislate based on fear (see: Trump and the Republican Party as a whole) does America falter.
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Espeon posted...

I'll address the memo:

Try again after reading it.

And address the actual points made instead of saying "wah, it's a nazi conspiracy, please ignore it."
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Vlado posted...

Espeon posted...

I'll address the memo:

Try again after reading it.

And address the actual points made instead of saying "wah, it's a nazi conspiracy, please ignore it."

Maybe you can tell me why is should gives shit about a memo from some fired underling for reasons other than him saying things you already believe.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

You going somewhere with that or?

He's trying to say that your white suburb is proof that multiculturalism is a failure and dark skinned people are thugs
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Jakyl25 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

You going somewhere with that or?

He's trying to say that your white suburb is proof that multiculturalism is a failure and dark skinned people are thugs

I mean, I spent the past seven years in a predominantly white (moreso) rural area.

Still a very different culture from the suburb I live in now.
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