Current Events > UK police warn man to stop criticizing Islam on Facebook

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http://www.latest-breaking-news.co.uk/news/uncategorized/uk-police-warn-man-stop-criticizing-islam-facebook/

The owner of a Facebook page praising the Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg has told their followers that they have been visited by two police officers who provided ‘advice’ that included a warning to stop posting content that is ‘critical of Islam.’

According to an update on the page called The Church Of Mogg, the page itself was frozen by Facebook for two weeks, and the owner was advised that they could face arrest for ‘hate crimes’ if any further content of that nature is posted in the future.

Perhaps one of the most worrying parts of the Facebook post is that they say they have no idea how the local police obtained his details without some sort of court order or similar legal action.

At the time of writing, this question remains unsolved.

Not only does the UK have blasphemy laws that only apply to Islam, they also devote time and energy towards tracking down the home addresses of people who blaspheme Islam.

Brexit couldn't have come soon enough, it seems.
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Bunch of pansies.
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I don't think you know what blasphemy laws actually are.
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I'd take what the Moggies are saying with a pinch of salt tbqh. At least, we're only seeing half of the story. What exactly is the content in question, for example? If it's genuine criticism of Islam, then fair enough.

Mal_Fet posted...

Not only does the UK have blasphemy laws that only apply to Islam, they also devote time and energy towards tracking down the home addresses of people who blaspheme Islam.

I'm pretty sure blasphemy laws in the UK have been scrapped for a number of years now.

Mal_Fet posted...

Brexit couldn't have come soon enough, it seems.

Would this not be an argument against Brexit? It basically hands more power to those in government enacting these laws (censorship laws / ill-advised technology laws in general, that is). The EU is pretty much our only protection against this at the moment. See https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/dec/21/eus-highest-court-delivers-blow-to-uk-snoopers-charter for example.

Believe me the last thing we want is the tories having more power.
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spikethedevil posted...

Believe me the last thing we want is the tories having more power.

Pretty much.

I can sympathize with the "democracy" argument a little (although I don't think first past the post is particularly democratic myself), but looking purely at what would give us the best protection against laws like this, staying in the EU would be the better option.

And to be fair, Labour's record on civil liberties in recent years isn't great either. Corbyn is probably better than Blair in that regard though, but that's not saying much.

That's all fine, as long as the police visit muslims who criticize christianity on facebook and warn them to stop criticizing christianity. Treat all sides equally.
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I have never heard of the link in the OP, so I'm going to take this with a planet sized grain of salt.
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Looking at the sites front page they clearly have an agenda and no idea how much of it is actually true.
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@UnfairRepresent
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spikethedevil posted...

Looking at the sites front page they clearly have an agenda and no idea how much of it is actually true.

Everybody has an agenda. The key point is some people only want to crack down on certain agendas, then they give a pass to others.
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Mal_Fet posted...

Brexit couldn't have come soon enough, it seems.

Putting aside that this story never occured, WTF does Brexit have to do with this?
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luigi13579 posted...

I'm pretty sure blasphemy laws in the UK have been scrapped for a number of years now.

What do you call a law that makes it illegal to offend of speak sacrilegiously about a religion?
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Mal_Fet posted...

What do you call a law that makes it illegal to offend of speak sacrilegiously about a religion?

There have been people arrested for online harassment and bigotry, rightly or wrongly, but merely for criticising religion/Islam? I'm not so sure about that.

Receiving a slap on the wrist for online harassment I can sort of understand. For bigotry alone, not so much. For "blasphemy", definitely not.

Do they not have freedom of speech in the UK?
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Vindris_SNH posted...

Do they not have freedom of speech in the UK?

No they don't. At least not in the same sense as the US does

Hate crime is a thing there.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

Do they not have freedom of speech in the UK?

No they don't. At least not in the same sense as the US does

Hate crime is a thing there.

Criticism isn't hate.
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Vindris_SNH posted...

Do they not have freedom of speech in the UK?

Not completely, no. I think it's what's known as a "qualified right". We've had some issues with free speech recently, to be frank. As I alluded to before, I can understand a small punishment for the very worst sustained harassment. Other than that? Nope.

Vindris_SNH posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

Do they not have freedom of speech in the UK?

No they don't. At least not in the same sense as the US does

Hate crime is a thing there.

Criticism isn't hate.

And criticism isn't illegal.

In fact on that note the most successful religious critics and authors of the past 100 years have been from the UK.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

And criticism isn't illegal.

In fact on that note the most successful religious critics and authors of the past 100 years have been from the UK.

That reminds me of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Rushdie and the whole hoo-ha with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Rushdie#The_Satanic_Verses_and_the_fatw.C4.81

If factually accurate statements about Islam sound that close to "hate speech," that should be all the evidence you need about Islam's role in the world.
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gmanthebest posted...

Bunch of pansies.

Net "Neutrality"
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England is no longer part of the west. It's part of the caliphate now.
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do we have any source that confirms this outside of what a guy posted on his own facebook page?

edit: my own googling only turned up sources that reference the same FB page.
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Vindris_SNH posted...

Do they not have freedom of speech in the UK?

No. They have no freedoms.
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was it the sharia police?
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darkphoenix181 posted...

was it the sharia police?

What sharia police?

Mr Sandbag posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

Do they not have freedom of speech in the UK?

No. They have no freedoms.

Lol get a clue about what you're talking about before looking like the ignorant American stereotype.
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luigi13579 posted...

Receiving a slap on the wrist for online harassment I can sort of understand. For bigotry alone, not so much. For "blasphemy", definitely not.

What's the difference between blaspheming Islam and being "bigoted" towards Islam?
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Mal_Fet posted...

What's the difference between blaspheming Islam and being "bigoted" towards Islam?

What I meant with "bigotry" was insulting / harassing people for their faith (e.g. "you filthy Muslim, go back to your own country," or similar), as opposed to criticizing the faith / their beliefs (e.g. "Islam is incompatible with western values"). I don't think you should get locked up for either (unless, as mentioned before, it's constant abuse that adversely affects someone's life in obvious ways), although I'm sure people have been for the former (which I disagree with), but I wouldn't call it blasphemy to be honest. Hell, the latter isn't even blasphemy either I don't think. What Salman Rushdie did certainly was.

Giant_Aspirin posted...

do we have any source that confirms this outside of what a guy posted on his own facebook page?

edit: my own googling only turned up sources that reference the same FB page.

Without a statement from the police on the matter, that's all there is to go on. However, I would have expected a statement from the police by now if there was more to the story.
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darkjedilink posted...

Without a statement from the police on the matter, that's all there is to go on. However, I would have expected a statement from the police by now if there was more to the story.

Why would we have a statement from the police about a statement made by some nobody?

Mal_Fet posted...

luigi13579 posted...

Receiving a slap on the wrist for online harassment I can sort of understand. For bigotry alone, not so much. For "blasphemy", definitely not.

What's the difference between blaspheming Islam and being "bigoted" towards Islam?

Inconvenient truths about Islam are "bigotry" to regressive liberals. This includes things like mentioning the number of people killed by Islamic terror attacks in 2017 (currently at 9,386), mentioning the age of some of Muhammad's wives, discussing the laws of certain majority Muslim nations as they pertain the women's rights and marital rape, or citing select verses from the Quran or Hadith that talk about prescribed treatment of non-Muslims.
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After Rotherham, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the British police bully critics of Islam. If the British authorities are willing to let some Pakistani Muslim immigrants run rape gangs and child trafficking on little british girls for years without doing anything to stop it and going out of their way to prevent investigation into it, why wouldn't they bully British citizens who talk poorly of Islam and the bad behavior of Muslims?

Especially since they seem to be doubling down on "hate speech" online.
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Criticize Islam you'll be modded by progressives and attacked by muslims
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Imagine if everyone who criticized Christianity in America got a knock in the door from the popos.
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