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legendary_zell
08/12/17 9:17:02 PM
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https://twitter.com/soledadobrien/status/896492127911149568

We all know how intense and specific Trump can be when he wants to criticize a group or an individual. See Rosie, the Khan family, Cruz, Rubio, Hilary, Muslims, China, etc. Yet here we have people rioting with guns and other weapons, carrying Nazi and confederate flags, beating people, running people over. And all he can muster is a conspicuously weak and non-specific "same thing both sides". Meanwhile even other Republicans are openly condemning white supremacist racism and violence and directly calling out Trump for refusing to do so. It's not just a liberal conspiracy, everyone knows how important it is to call them out specifically and directly.

Yet he refuses to do it. And it has the exact dog whistle effect anyone with a brain thinks it would. They feel emboldened and feel like he wasn't talking about them. That he didn't condemn them. That he only vaguely alluded to them in order to placate the public and he secretly supports them. This is coming from the white supremacists themselves, it's not being attributed to them by the left.

How could anyone possibly defend this? He knows people are doing this in his name and they think he supports it, yet he refuses to do the politically and morally sensible thing and condemn literally nazis who are beating and murdering people.
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Webmaster4531
08/12/17 9:19:15 PM
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They're the main reason he won.
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Monday
08/12/17 9:20:57 PM
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DarthAragorn
08/12/17 9:21:11 PM
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Monday posted...
how do i into shitposting

Like THIS
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Butterfiles
08/12/17 9:21:24 PM
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b-but vague platitudes from a guy who tells it like it is means he's actually speaking out!
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Kazi1212
08/12/17 9:23:25 PM
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What are the odds that guy is a troll or a political shill to make Trump look bad? Like someone should go to that stormfront site and conduct a poll for what percentage of their members think trump has validated their message today with his speech.
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UncleBourbon33
08/12/17 9:26:04 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
What are the odds that guy is a troll or a political shill to make Trump look bad? Like someone should go to that stormfront site and conduct a poll for what percentage of their members think trump has validated their message today with his speech.

I'm convinced David Duke is a democrat plant.
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legendary_zell
08/12/17 9:31:48 PM
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Monday posted...
how do i into shitposting


You don't need to ask me, you're doing it all over the board. Do you care to answer the question? Why is the man who got elected for speaking his mind, not being politically correct, being crude and confrontational, calling out those who needed to be called out etc now refusing to do any of that? He's instead drawing false equivalencies and switching to fake conciliatory language that has the "side effect" of allowing white supremacists to feel they are not condemned and are instead supported. Republicans know this, liberals know this, white supremacists know it, it seems only online trolls don't know it.
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Phantom_Nook
08/12/17 9:35:24 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
What are the odds that guy is a troll or a political shill to make Trump look bad? Like someone should go to that stormfront site and conduct a poll for what percentage of their members think trump has validated their message today with his speech.

yep, just another false flag. like literally everything that doesn't cast Emperor Trump in a golden light.
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Ammonitida
08/12/17 9:43:26 PM
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This man's motives have not been determined. There were several cars in front of his trying to drive through a crowd slowly that was blocking the street. Based on videos and eyewitness accounts, he drives up to the crowd slowly and at some point accelerates. This man might have been very impatient and popped a fuse, leading to a road rage incident. I've seen this at other protests. There's no evidence at the moment that he was part of the rally in any capacity.

People have been searching his internet footprints and all they have come up with so far is his party affiliation. No history of Neo-Nazi activism, Trump support, or anything like that.

We all know how intense and specific Trump can be when he wants to criticize a group or an individual. See Rosie, the Khan family, Cruz, Rubio, Hilary, Muslims, China, etc.


That's politics, counter-punching, and the usual right wing obsession with Islam.

carrying Nazi and confederate flags, beating people, running people over.


Violence came from both sides. Trump was right to condemn both.

If you watch the earlier part of my stream you can see anti-right wing chasing after a Lexus and throwing rocks, bottles, a shoe


The above is from a reporter working for TheHill.

https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz/status/896444386875240448
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legendary_zell
08/12/17 9:55:48 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
This man's motives have not been determined. There were several cars in front of his trying to drive through a crowd slowly that was blocking the street. Based on videos and eyewitness accounts, he drives up to the crowd slowly and at some point accelerates. This man might have been very impatient and popped a fuse, leading to a road rage incident. I've seen this at other protests. There's no evidence at the moment that he was part of the rally in any capacity.

People have been searching his internet footprints and all they have come up with so far is his party affiliation. No history of Neo-Nazi activism, Trump support, or anything like that.

We all know how intense and specific Trump can be when he wants to criticize a group or an individual. See Rosie, the Khan family, Cruz, Rubio, Hilary, Muslims, China, etc.


That's politics, counter-punching, and the usual right wing obsession with Islam.

carrying Nazi and confederate flags, beating people, running people over.


Violence came from both sides. Trump was right to condemn both.

If you watch the earlier part of my stream you can see anti-right wing chasing after a Lexus and throwing rocks, bottles, a shoe


The above is from a reporter working for TheHill.

https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz/status/896444386875240448



Even if every word of this is true, which it isn't, that still wouldn't excuse Trump. His whole thing is attacking people specifically and viciously, yet he can't seem to find any venom for Nazis and those Nazis and everyone else are definitely noticing that. They must be specifically, forcefully, unequivocally discredited by Trump himself. Anything else will be taken as support by them.

A lot of them are literally out there cosplaying as Trump while attacking people and giving nazi salutes, David Duke literally just said this violent rally is what MAGA really means. As President, and as someone with is personality, he has the responsibility to come down on them specifically and not resort to whataboutism, silence, deflection or anything else that would water down the message of "Fuck Nazis"

If Obama had done this with the New Black Panthers after running a racially divisive campaign, the entire right would have (rightfully) burst into flame.
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CADE FOSTER
08/12/17 9:59:16 PM
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Trump is hitler lite

Stephen miller is Joseph Goebbels jr

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DarthAragorn
08/12/17 10:00:10 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
Trump is hitler lite

Stephen miller is Joseph Goebbels jr

bannon is no clue satan

Trump is not even fucking close to Hitler you delusional child
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CADE FOSTER
08/12/17 10:02:28 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
Trump is hitler lite

Stephen miller is Joseph Goebbels jr

bannon is no clue satan

Trump is not even fucking close to Hitler you delusional child

Yes you are right he is to stupid to be hitler maybe kim jong un
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Mal_Fet
08/12/17 10:03:57 PM
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One post on the stormer saying Trump supports Nazis?

Must be true.
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AlternativeFAQS
08/12/17 10:05:55 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
Trump is hitler lite

Stephen miller is Joseph Goebbels jr

bannon is no clue satan

Trump is not even fucking close to Hitler you delusional child

not at the moment, but historians have said his rise to power was similar to Hitlers
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Mal_Fet
08/12/17 10:07:36 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
not at the moment, but historians have said his rise to power was similar to Hitlers

Who, Paxton?

The guy who said "Trump greeted people at an airbase and waved to them from atop the stairs, like Hitler did"?

The side-by-side pictures of Hitler and Trump both drinking water was made specifically to make fun of that guy.
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Ammonitida
08/12/17 10:47:00 PM
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Even if every word of this is true, which it isn't,


Care to point out which words are not true?

His whole thing is attacking people specifically and viciously,


He's a counter-puncher. But this rally was not about him. Even so, he did condemn the violence and hate. What more do you want? To condemn Duke AGAIN?

They must be specifically, forcefully, unequivocally discredited by Trump himself.


He already did that. He specifically condemned David Duke twice, once in 2000 (under no pressure), and again in 2016. He also condemned any hate crimes done in his name right after the election in a televised interview. He looked at the camera and told them to "stop it".

Duke's zealous support for Trump is baffling, considering how many Jews he as in his administration and the fact that he has Jewish family members. Also the fact that Trump dropped out a political party in 2000 just because Duke had joined it, calling him a bigot and racist.

If Obama had done this with the New Black Panthers after running a racially divisive campaign,


You mean like when Obama condemned the anti-police bigotry of the left after the Micah Johnson massacre during a BLM rally? Obama condemned both the killer and abusive policing ("both sides"). Trump did the same in regards to this rally. He condemn the bigotry, violence and hate -- and that includes the anti-right wingers throwing rocks at motorists trying to pass through, or is that not wrong in your book?

BTW, when did Obama condemn the hate crimes committed during the Milwaukee riots last year in which a white man was shot in the neck and white motorists were attacked? The left wing tried to cover it up by not covering it at all. Thanks to social and right wing media for not keeping us in the dark.
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Terra-enforcer
08/12/17 10:55:08 PM
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This sucks. I actually like Trump and I've done damage control and defended him multiple times before on here and irl. But this is just terrible. This is pretty hard to justify. Any other president, even some of the worst people, would condemn their actions and denounce white nationalism, and yet Trump remains silent. Why man?
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Mal_Fet
08/12/17 10:55:47 PM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
Any other president, even some of the worst people, would condemn their actions and denounce white nationalism, and yet Trump remains silent. Why man?

In what way did he not condemn this...?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/12/17 10:57:54 PM
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UncleBourbon33 posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
What are the odds that guy is a troll or a political shill to make Trump look bad? Like someone should go to that stormfront site and conduct a poll for what percentage of their members think trump has validated their message today with his speech.

I'm convinced David Duke is a democrat plant.


There's no way he'd be able to keep that up for like what... 40 years now?
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Antifar
08/12/17 10:58:50 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
ou mean like when Obama condemned the anti-police bigotry of the left after the Micah Johnson massacre during a BLM rally? Obama condemned both the killer and abusive policing ("both sides").


Your memory doesn't serve you well
http://time.com/4398185/barack-obama-remarks-dallas-police-shooting/

We still don't know all the facts. What we do know is that there has been a vicious, calculated and despicable attack on law enforcement. Police in Dallas were on duty, doing their jobs, keeping people safe during peaceful protests. These law enforcement officers were targeted, and nearly a dozen officers were shot. Five were killed. Other officers and at least one civilian were wounded -- some are in serious condition, and we are praying for their recovery.

As I told Mayor Rawlings, I believe that I speak for every single American when I say that we are horrified over these events, and that we stand united with the people and the police department in Dallas. According to police, there are multiple suspects. We will learn more, undoubtedly, about their twisted motivations. But let's be clear: There is no possible justification for these kinds of attacks or any violence against law enforcement. The FBI is already in touch with the Dallas police, and anyone involved in these senseless murders will be held fully accountable. Justice will be done.

I will have more to say about this as the facts become more clear. For now, let me just say that even as yesterday I spoke about our need to be concerned, as all Americans, about racial disparities in our criminal justice system, I also said yesterday that our police have an extraordinarily difficult job and the vast majority of them do their job in outstanding fashion. I also indicated the degree to which we need to be supportive of those officers who do their job each and every day, protecting us and protecting our communities.

Today is a wrenching reminder of the sacrifices that they make for us. We also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons, unfortunately it makes attacks like these more deadly and more tragic. And in the days ahead, we're going to have to consider those realities as well.

In the meantime, today our focus is on the victims and their families. They are heartbroken. The entire city of Dallas is grieving. Police across America, which is a tight-knit family, feels this loss to their core. And we're grieving with them. I'd ask all Americans to say a prayer for these officers and their families. Keep them in your thoughts. And as a nation, let's remember to express our profound gratitude to our men and women in blue -- not just today, but every day.

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Terra-enforcer
08/12/17 10:59:21 PM
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@Mal_Fet posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Any other president, even some of the worst people, would condemn their actions and denounce white nationalism, and yet Trump remains silent. Why man?

In what way did he not condemn this...?

A better question is in what way did he? By walking off when asked if he supports them?

Did you even read the link? After rereading it myself, they literally ask him does he "condemn" their acts word for word and he ignored them.
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wah_wah_wah
08/12/17 11:01:07 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
Trump is hitler lite

Stephen miller is Joseph Goebbels jr

bannon is no clue satan

Trump is not even fucking close to Hitler you delusional child

not at the moment, but historians have said his rise to power was similar to Hitlers

Trump is more like Kaiser Wilhelm II. An elite that can't keep his mouth shut and doesn't have any discipline, or talent for the job he finds himself in at birth.
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Monday
08/12/17 11:02:54 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Monday posted...
how do i into shitposting


You don't need to ask me, you're doing it all over the board. Do you care to answer the question? Why is the man who got elected for speaking his mind, not being politically correct, being crude and confrontational, calling out those who needed to be called out etc now refusing to do any of that? He's instead drawing false equivalencies and switching to fake conciliatory language that has the "side effect" of allowing white supremacists to feel they are not condemned and are instead supported. Republicans know this, liberals know this, white supremacists know it, it seems only online trolls don't know it.


I'm shitposting in topics meant for shitposting. That WW2 vet topic, the trump whining topic, and this topic. You really gonna bust my balls because I'm on your turf?
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Ammonitida
08/12/17 11:03:32 PM
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Antifar posted...
Ammonitida posted...
ou mean like when Obama condemned the anti-police bigotry of the left after the Micah Johnson massacre during a BLM rally? Obama condemned both the killer and abusive policing ("both sides").


Your memory doesn't serve you well
http://time.com/4398185/barack-obama-remarks-dallas-police-shooting/

We still don't know all the facts. What we do know is that there has been a vicious, calculated and despicable attack on law enforcement. Police in Dallas were on duty, doing their jobs, keeping people safe during peaceful protests. These law enforcement officers were targeted, and nearly a dozen officers were shot. Five were killed. Other officers and at least one civilian were wounded -- some are in serious condition, and we are praying for their recovery.

As I told Mayor Rawlings, I believe that I speak for every single American when I say that we are horrified over these events, and that we stand united with the people and the police department in Dallas. According to police, there are multiple suspects. We will learn more, undoubtedly, about their twisted motivations. But let's be clear: There is no possible justification for these kinds of attacks or any violence against law enforcement. The FBI is already in touch with the Dallas police, and anyone involved in these senseless murders will be held fully accountable. Justice will be done.

I will have more to say about this as the facts become more clear. For now, let me just say that even as yesterday I spoke about our need to be concerned, as all Americans, about racial disparities in our criminal justice system, I also said yesterday that our police have an extraordinarily difficult job and the vast majority of them do their job in outstanding fashion. I also indicated the degree to which we need to be supportive of those officers who do their job each and every day, protecting us and protecting our communities.

Today is a wrenching reminder of the sacrifices that they make for us. We also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons, unfortunately it makes attacks like these more deadly and more tragic. And in the days ahead, we're going to have to consider those realities as well.

In the meantime, today our focus is on the victims and their families. They are heartbroken. The entire city of Dallas is grieving. Police across America, which is a tight-knit family, feels this loss to their core. And we're grieving with them. I'd ask all Americans to say a prayer for these officers and their families. Keep them in your thoughts. And as a nation, let's remember to express our profound gratitude to our men and women in blue -- not just today, but every day.


I know he condemned it. When I said "killer", I didn't just mean Micah, but the whole thing. Both sides.
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Antifar
08/12/17 11:05:12 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
When I said "killer", I didn't just mean Micah, but the whole thing. Both sides.

He in no way condemned both sides with his statement.
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CADE FOSTER
08/12/17 11:07:24 PM
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David duke tweeted at trump saying remember its the white people that got you elected
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RebelElite791
08/12/17 11:08:21 PM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
AlternativeFAQS posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
Trump is hitler lite

Stephen miller is Joseph Goebbels jr

bannon is no clue satan

Trump is not even fucking close to Hitler you delusional child

not at the moment, but historians have said his rise to power was similar to Hitlers

Trump is more like Kaiser Wilhelm II. An elite that can't keep his mouth shut and doesn't have any discipline, or talent for the job he finds himself in at birth.

I mean Anne fucking Frank's stepsister even compared him to Hitler. I have German friends who have compared the rise of Trump and the alt-reich to Hitler
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legendary_zell
08/12/17 11:10:58 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
Even if every word of this is true, which it isn't,


Care to point out which words are not true?

His whole thing is attacking people specifically and viciously,


He's a counter-puncher. But this rally was not about him. Even so, he did condemn the violence and hate. What more do you want? To condemn Duke AGAIN?

They must be specifically, forcefully, unequivocally discredited by Trump himself.


He already did that. He specifically condemned David Duke twice, once in 2000 (under no pressure), and again in 2016. He also condemned any hate crimes done in his name right after the election in a televised interview. He looked at the camera and told them to "stop it".

Duke's zealous support for Trump is baffling, considering how many Jews he as in his administration and the fact that he has Jewish family members. Also the fact that Trump dropped out a political party in 2000 just because Duke had joined it, calling him a bigot and racist.

If Obama had done this with the New Black Panthers after running a racially divisive campaign,


You mean like when Obama condemned the anti-police bigotry of the left after the Micah Johnson massacre during a BLM rally? Obama condemned both the killer and abusive policing ("both sides"). Trump did the same in regards to this rally. He condemn the bigotry, violence and hate -- and that includes the anti-right wingers throwing rocks at motorists trying to pass through, or is that not wrong in your book?

BTW, when did Obama condemn the hate crimes committed during the Milwaukee riots last year in which a white man was shot in the neck and white motorists were attacked? The left wing tried to cover it up by not covering it at all. Thanks to social and right wing media for not keeping us in the dark.


I don't wanna turn this into a side argument about whether the guy was part of the rioters or his intentions. There's enough video evidence to support the idea that he intentionally ran into these people and its very likely he did this because he supported their ideas. Though that's just one factor for this topic.

These people are attacking his country, he is being attacked because of them, yet he doesn't attack them. What more do I want? The same thing other Republicans and politicians have already done. To call this out as Nazi/white supremacist violence specifically and condemn them specifically with the same force he attacks far less offensive things with. That's not some unreasonable request. Every President other than maybe Andrew Johnson would do that here. It's good that he has condemned David Duke but his rhetoric and the way he condemns Duke and others who think like him very clearly gives them and others the impression it's crafted to be weaker than necessary. That's simple not up for dispute at this point. Republicans, Democrats, and White Supremacists all agree that's what's happening.

One side in the BLM situation was largely peacefully protesting about legitimate racial issues but some committed violence while others were supporting police. Two valid sides. So it made sense to make some equivalence. Here, we have Nazis vs non-Nazis. He can condemn both if he wants, but do it separately and completely for each side, don't make false equivalencies that make it seem like only one side is really being criticized on the same day Nazis are potentially killing and are at least beating people and conducting armed marches shouting Nazi slogans in the streets while others (non-Nazis, that bears infinite repeating) respond in anger. Again, I'm not pulling this out of nowhere, Marco Rubio freaking agrees.
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legendary_zell
08/12/17 11:14:16 PM
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Monday posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Monday posted...
how do i into shitposting


You don't need to ask me, you're doing it all over the board. Do you care to answer the question? Why is the man who got elected for speaking his mind, not being politically correct, being crude and confrontational, calling out those who needed to be called out etc now refusing to do any of that? He's instead drawing false equivalencies and switching to fake conciliatory language that has the "side effect" of allowing white supremacists to feel they are not condemned and are instead supported. Republicans know this, liberals know this, white supremacists know it, it seems only online trolls don't know it.


I'm shitposting in topics meant for shitposting. That WW2 vet topic, the trump whining topic, and this topic. You really gonna bust my balls because I'm on your turf?


This is a serious topic. No one is trolling other than you. I'm asking a question that will be increasingly asked if these things continue to happen and Trump continues to have the same milquetoast response. If you don't want to engage, just leave. Pol, voat, /b/, the Donald etc all need your help right now. They're kinda having a bad day.
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JE19426
08/12/17 11:21:25 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...

In what way did he not condemn this...?


He failed to condemn it in anyway.
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wah_wah_wah
08/12/17 11:23:56 PM
#33:


RebelElite791 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
AlternativeFAQS posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
Trump is hitler lite

Stephen miller is Joseph Goebbels jr

bannon is no clue satan

Trump is not even fucking close to Hitler you delusional child

not at the moment, but historians have said his rise to power was similar to Hitlers

Trump is more like Kaiser Wilhelm II. An elite that can't keep his mouth shut and doesn't have any discipline, or talent for the job he finds himself in at birth.

I mean Anne fucking Frank's stepsister even compared him to Hitler. I have German friends who have compared the rise of Trump and the alt-reich to Hitler

I don't think being a victim of Hitler means you're an expert at spotting Hitlers. If anything I think it would mean the opposite.
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RebelElite791
08/12/17 11:26:23 PM
#34:


wah_wah_wah posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
AlternativeFAQS posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
Trump is hitler lite

Stephen miller is Joseph Goebbels jr

bannon is no clue satan

Trump is not even fucking close to Hitler you delusional child

not at the moment, but historians have said his rise to power was similar to Hitlers

Trump is more like Kaiser Wilhelm II. An elite that can't keep his mouth shut and doesn't have any discipline, or talent for the job he finds himself in at birth.

I mean Anne fucking Frank's stepsister even compared him to Hitler. I have German friends who have compared the rise of Trump and the alt-reich to Hitler

I don't think being a victim of Hitler means you're an expert at spotting Hitlers. If anything I think it would mean the opposite.

Right you obviously have a better grasp on Nazi history than people who were in the goddamn camps.
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Monday
08/12/17 11:29:10 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
This is a serious topic.


Fuck outta here. Making a statement like "Trump is giving comfort and support to actual neo-nazis" is blatant shitposting. That's the kind of title Buzzfeed would run with, and you know it. You are not gonna sit there and tell me this topic is serious, no fucking way.
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Ammonitida
08/12/17 11:29:46 PM
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Fields' mother, Samantha Bloom, told the Toledo Blade, a CNN affiliate, that he told her last week he was going to an "alt-right" rally, but she didn't get involved in his political views. "I told him to be careful ... if they are going to rally, to make sure he is doing it peacefully," she told the newspaper.
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wah_wah_wah
08/12/17 11:30:48 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Right you obviously have a better grasp on Nazi history than people who were in the goddamn camps.

You're not an expert on "Nazi history" just because you were in a concentration camp. Probably on the operations of the camp you were in, yeah. There's people in this world that know more about American history than I do, that don't live in America.
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Axiom
08/12/17 11:31:51 PM
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Monday posted...
legendary_zell posted...
This is a serious topic.


Fuck outta here. Making a statement like "Trump is giving comfort and support to actual neo-nazis" is blatant shitposting. That's the kind of title Buzzfeed would run with, and you know it. You are not gonna sit there and tell me this topic is serious, no fucking way.

The title might be hyperbole but nothing in the OP is wrong
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Antifar
08/12/17 11:32:28 PM
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Monday posted...
Fuck outta here. Making a statement like "Trump is giving comfort and support to actual neo-nazis" is blatant shitposting

It's also correct. Trump, by not focusing his ire on those who deserve it, by playing this "many sides" bullshit, is helping the neo-Nazis in question.
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Mal_Fet
08/12/17 11:59:09 PM
#40:


Terra-enforcer posted...
A better question is in what way did he?

By saying he condemned hate on both sides. That's how he condemned it.
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legendary_zell
08/13/17 12:04:53 AM
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Genericgamer667 posted...
let's remove any doubt now

here is a picture of him with Vanguard America: http://s28.postimg.org/43wc14a31/screenshot_82.png

Vanguard America, a White Nationalist organization in the U.S., has promoted and detailed various outreach initiatives across the country.

A three-point, 457-word manifesto on Vanguard America’s website states, “Our America is to be a nation exclusively for the White American peoples,” and states in part:

…it is logical that America must be once again built from the ground up to recapture the glory an Aryan nation deserves. Vanguard America stands indomitably opposed to the tyranny of globalism and capitalism, a system under which nations are stripped of their heritage and their people are turned into nothing more than units of cheap, expendable labor. Vanguard America, and our nationalist allies across the Western world, see a world of nations ruled by their own people, for their own people.


A Nation For Our People %u2013 An America based on the immutable truths of Blood and Soil. A multicultural nation is no nation at all, but a collection of smaller ethnic nations ruled over by an overbearing tyrannical state. Our America is to be a nation exclusively for the White American peoples who out of the barren hills, empty plains, and vast mountains forged the most powerful nation to ever have existed.


are we really gonna give this guy the benefit of the doubt Covenant?


I'm not sure if this is true, but if it is, it indicates a lot.

Also, how the hell is he NOT giving them comfort and support? They are in their own words stating that he is. He could clear up any potential misconceptions, but refuses to do so when all he has to do is take the easy step of saying Nazis are scum and I hate them and I will prosecute them all.
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JE19426
08/13/17 12:06:23 AM
#42:


Mal_Fet posted...
By saying he condemned hate on both sides.


He didn’t say that.
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hockeybub89
08/13/17 12:08:40 AM
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Mal_Fet posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
A better question is in what way did he?

By saying he condemned hate on both sides. That's how he condemned it.

I'm sure you would be a-ok with President making such a statement in the wake Islamic extremist terrorism.
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Black462
08/13/17 12:08:47 AM
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Antifa did 99% of the violence though
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CADE FOSTER
08/13/17 12:09:53 AM
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Mal_Fet
08/13/17 1:52:34 AM
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@JE19426 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
By saying he condemned hate on both sides.


He didn’t say that.

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides"

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JE19426
08/13/17 1:55:06 AM
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Mal_Fet posted...

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides"


Many sides =/= Both sides.
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WaterLink
08/13/17 1:56:36 AM
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So he implied Antifa are haters

Well, I mean they are...
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CADE FOSTER
08/13/17 2:08:19 AM
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WaterLink posted...
So he implied Antifa are haters

Well, I mean they are...

Not as hateful as literal neo nazi's
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Mal_Fet
08/13/17 2:10:08 AM
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JE19426 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides"


Many sides =/= Both sides.

And that changes what

CADE FOSTER posted...
WaterLink posted...
So he implied Antifa are haters

Well, I mean they are...

Not as hateful as literal neo nazi's

Antifa behave like actual brownshirts
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