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Muffinz0rz
08/14/17 4:35:04 PM
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Ho-Oh or Lugia?


Ho-Oh or Lugia?
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ManLink4321
08/14/17 4:36:13 PM
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Ho-oh because it pwnz
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P4wn4g3
08/14/17 4:36:40 PM
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Sucks that sacred flame was wasted on ho oh
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Kisai
08/14/17 4:41:04 PM
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They're both kinda cool. I get the feeling that Ho-oh is supposed to be the more "important" one, like more classy and regal. Lugia seems like it should be more powerful, and it has psychic powers, so I guess Lugia.
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Xelltrix
08/14/17 4:41:13 PM
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Lugia was way cooler. It was also the better one competitively but Ho-Oh has picked up the slack over the last couple of generations.


But yeah, Lugia.

Kisai posted...
They're both kinda cool. I get the feeling that Ho-oh is supposed to be the more "important" one, like more classy and regal. Lugia seems like it should be more powerful, and it has psychic powers, so I guess Lugia.


Eh, Lugia seemed to have a lot more plot focus than Ho-Oh in the same way the legendary birds had far more coverage and plot relevance throughout the series than the beasts did. Though, in contrast, the beasts had more plot relevance in the games than the brids ever really did.
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lilORANG
08/14/17 4:44:50 PM
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Lugia. Ho oh is just a big chicken. Lugia is awesome and had one of the best movies.
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vashmoto
08/14/17 4:45:30 PM
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Lugia is in my top 5
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NibeIungsnarf
08/14/17 4:49:37 PM
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Ho-oh's typing is crap, but it's cool. Lugia is just kind of derpy. It really was ridiculous to make it psychic/flying rather than psychic/water, too.
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Muffinz0rz
08/14/17 4:50:22 PM
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Xelltrix posted...
Eh, Lugia seemed to have a lot more plot focus than Ho-Oh in the same way the legendary birds had far more coverage and plot relevance throughout the series than the beasts did.

I thought Ho-Oh was the one that basically revived the Flareon, Jolteon, and Vaporeon killed in the Ecruteak City fire and turned them into the three respective beasts?

Seems pretty important to me, what did Lugia do?
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Xelltrix
08/14/17 4:54:16 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Xelltrix posted...
Eh, Lugia seemed to have a lot more plot focus than Ho-Oh in the same way the legendary birds had far more coverage and plot relevance throughout the series than the beasts did.

I thought Ho-Oh was the one that basically revived the Flareon, Jolteon, and Vaporeon killed in the Ecruteak City fire and turned them into the three respective beasts?

Seems pretty important to me, what did Lugia do?


In the game lore, it revived three Pokemon and it had one episode devoted to it in the anime that had the same story. They never said it was the Eon's but that's the fanon belief since it matches up. Ho-Oh is also the first legendary Ash sees, as we all know and may get a bit more of a role in that movie coming up.

Lugia had an entire Whirlpool Island arc (since it lives there) so that's more episodes than Ho-oh right there as far as I can remember. Then it also had Pokemon 2000 movie. So I'd say Lugia > Ho-Oh in terms of plot time devotion but Beasts > Birds for the plot relevance so you could indirectly say Ho-oh has more relevance since it revived the beasts and the beasts had more movie and show references than the birds did.
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NibeIungsnarf
08/14/17 4:54:38 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
what did Lugia do?

The second pokemon movie was basically the Lugia movie.

I don't remember anything about it cause it was trash, but there you go.
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Xelltrix
08/14/17 4:55:23 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
I don't remember anything about it cause it was trash, but there you go.


How dare you.
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Muffinz0rz
08/14/17 4:55:32 PM
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Xelltrix posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
Xelltrix posted...
Eh, Lugia seemed to have a lot more plot focus than Ho-Oh in the same way the legendary birds had far more coverage and plot relevance throughout the series than the beasts did.

I thought Ho-Oh was the one that basically revived the Flareon, Jolteon, and Vaporeon killed in the Ecruteak City fire and turned them into the three respective beasts?

Seems pretty important to me, what did Lugia do?


In the game lore, it revived three Pokemon and it had one episode devoted to it in the anime that had the same story. They never said it was the Eon's but that's the fanon belief since it matches up. Ho-Oh is also the first legendary Ash sees, as we all know and may get a bit more of a role in that movie coming up.

Lugia had an entire Whirlpool Island arc (since it lives there) so that's more episodes than Ho-oh right there as far as I can remember. Then it also had Pokemon 2000 movie. So I'd say Lugia > Ho-Oh in terms of plot time devotion but Beasts > Birds for the plot relevance so you could indirectly say Ho-oh has more relevance since it revived the beasts and the beasts had more movie and show references than the birds did.

Oh I didn't realize this was about the anime

Yeah Lugia probably wins in the anime sense

In terms of the game, I always felt it was just kinda...there. Nobody really mentioned it much, whereas Ho-Oh has all kinds of references, especially in Ecruteak.
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Xelltrix
08/14/17 4:56:52 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Oh I didn't realize this was about the anime

Yeah Lugia probably wins in the anime sense

In terms of the game, I always felt it was just kinda...there. Nobody really mentioned it much, whereas Ho-Oh has all kinds of references, especially in Ecruteak.


Yeah, I did note Ho-Oh had more relevance in the game, even if just barely. It wasn't really mentioned all that much more than Lugia but the Beasts at least had some importance in Crystal while the Birds never really had anything.
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GiftedACIII
08/14/17 4:57:14 PM
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Xelltrix posted...
Lugia was way cooler. It was also the better one competitively but Ho-Oh has picked up the slack over the last couple of generations.


But yeah, Lugia.

Kisai posted...
They're both kinda cool. I get the feeling that Ho-oh is supposed to be the more "important" one, like more classy and regal. Lugia seems like it should be more powerful, and it has psychic powers, so I guess Lugia.


Eh, Lugia seemed to have a lot more plot focus than Ho-Oh in the same way the legendary birds had far more coverage and plot relevance throughout the series than the beasts did. Though, in contrast, the beasts had more plot relevance in the games than the brids ever really did.


In one of the last 3 gens Lugia was so bad people were thinking of letting it in OU lol.
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P4wn4g3
08/14/17 5:01:56 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Ho-oh's typing is crap, but it's cool. Lugia is just kind of derpy. It really was ridiculous to make it psychic/flying rather than psychic/water, too.

Bro, I have this tank Lugia that someone traded me and it wrecks everyone's shit. It's much better at being a tank than a special cannon, basically you can just toxic the entire enemy team with Lugia.
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Xelltrix
08/14/17 5:05:22 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...

In one of the last 3 gens Lugia was so bad people were thinking of letting it in OU lol.


What? When was this? Gen 5? Because Gen 4, 6, and 7 Lugia is still pretty much the king of tanks with this last gen being the only it has ever really been in serious contention. I skipped Gen 5's Uber meta though so maybe there? ThougH I can't imagine it ever being bad enough to actually be even considered for OU contention when Ho-Oh never was and it was inarguably worse than Lugia.
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GiftedACIII
08/14/17 5:10:10 PM
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Xelltrix posted...
GiftedACIII posted...

In one of the last 3 gens Lugia was so bad people were thinking of letting it in OU lol.


What? When was this? Gen 5? Because Gen 4, 6, and 7 Lugia is still pretty much the king of tanks with this last gen being the only it has ever really been in serious contention. I skipped Gen 5's Uber meta though so maybe there? ThougH I can't imagine it ever being bad enough to actually be even considered for OU contention when Ho-Oh never was and it was inarguably worse than Lugia.

It was when Kyogre still reigned so either Gen 5 or early Gen 6. I remember it was because Lugia was deemed to have no offensive presence in a meta that was very offensive so I'm pretty sure it was early gen VI where Mega Gengar existed. It wasn't a serious contention though, just a jab at Lugia, kind of like people making fun of Reshiram and Palkia now.
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Kisai
08/14/17 5:26:02 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Ho-oh's typing is crap, but it's cool. Lugia is just kind of derpy. It really was ridiculous to make it psychic/flying rather than psychic/water, too.

I feel Lugia should've been Flying/Water.
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Bluebomber182
08/14/17 5:27:25 PM
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ho oh
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spikethedevil
08/14/17 5:27:34 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
what did Lugia do?

The second pokemon movie was basically the Lugia movie.

I don't remember anything about it cause it was trash, but there you go.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

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P4wn4g3
08/14/17 5:29:56 PM
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The world will turn to Ash
Who could forget epic lines like these
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Pics_nao_plz
08/14/17 5:31:25 PM
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L U G l A B O I Z
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spikethedevil
08/14/17 5:32:00 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1XamHKECHU

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BLAKUboy
08/14/17 5:34:28 PM
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Fish eagle >>>>>>> Rainbow turkey
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Touch
08/14/17 5:38:12 PM
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I remember getting Lugia in Silver and using Aeroblast. That shit looked hype AS FUCK
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3khc
08/14/17 5:42:17 PM
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Pokemon 2000 had the word sex in the script. Jesse said it.
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spikethedevil
08/14/17 5:58:21 PM
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3khc posted...
Pokemon 2000 had the word sex in the script. Jesse said it.


@3khc


It also had a crabs joke lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9v76egllTY

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3khc
08/14/17 6:02:53 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
3khc posted...
Pokemon 2000 had the word sex in the script. Jesse said it.


@3khc


It also had a crabs joke lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9v76egllTY


Never caught that. Here's the sex scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOsLzufQgvQ

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Xelltrix
08/14/17 6:06:30 PM
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Touch posted...
I remember getting Lugia in Silver and using Aeroblast. That shit looked hype AS FUCK


Dope AF. I was so hyped using him. I barely touched Ho-oh.



Pokemon 2000 > Mewtwo Strikes Back



GiftedACIII posted...
Xelltrix posted...
GiftedACIII posted...

In one of the last 3 gens Lugia was so bad people were thinking of letting it in OU lol.


What? When was this? Gen 5? Because Gen 4, 6, and 7 Lugia is still pretty much the king of tanks with this last gen being the only it has ever really been in serious contention. I skipped Gen 5's Uber meta though so maybe there? ThougH I can't imagine it ever being bad enough to actually be even considered for OU contention when Ho-Oh never was and it was inarguably worse than Lugia.

It was when Kyogre still reigned so either Gen 5 or early Gen 6. I remember it was because Lugia was deemed to have no offensive presence in a meta that was very offensive so I'm pretty sure it was early gen VI where Mega Gengar existed. It wasn't a serious contention though, just a jab at Lugia, kind of like people making fun of Reshiram and Palkia now.


Hmm, I didn't join sixth gen meta until it had already formed completely but I never recall anyone doubting Lugia's superiority as a tank in Ubers when I was playing.


Gen 5 left such a bad taste in my mouth in terms of meta, I basically gave up on Pokemon for that entire installment.
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