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known2FAIL
08/16/17 9:52:30 PM
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18 year old killed Mom's abusive Boyfriend. Did he do the right thing?


https://www.yahoo.com/music/high-school-football-player-charged-123317517.html

Let me give some details. The Mom's boyfriend has an arrest record of 26 arrests. Cops were called multiple times for domestic violence at that residence over time. At 4:30 AM her son heard her being beat again through his wall and he ran in there and choked him to death. This is a very ethically charged question. I don't think there is a wrong answer personally...

Did he do the right thing?
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RebelElite791
08/16/17 9:54:15 PM
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I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.
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iPhone_7
08/16/17 9:56:10 PM
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Well hope she's happy now, her son is a murderer. I bet she got with the man knowing he had a criminal record.
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stoltenberg11
08/16/17 10:04:22 PM
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Gotta protect the things important to you in life
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thronedfire2
08/16/17 10:06:51 PM
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I don't see a jury convicting him

unless the boyfriend was a white guy maybe
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Bad_Mojo
08/16/17 10:07:03 PM
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Yes, he did the right thing. But America doesn't agree with that, so he should be punished as stated by the law. We have laws for a reason.
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BignutzisBack
08/16/17 10:07:56 PM
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nope, he should have just beat the shit out of him
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BootyGif
08/16/17 10:08:45 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.
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thanosibe
08/16/17 10:09:34 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.
Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant.
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chrono625
08/16/17 10:12:12 PM
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if his act prevented the potential death of his mother he 100% did the right thing.
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Allanon23
08/16/17 10:12:40 PM
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Good luck finding a jury willing to convict him.
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NeoShadowhen
08/16/17 10:13:47 PM
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Yikes. I mean, choking someone to death isn't easy. You kinda have to keep going after they stop moving.

Let the kid go, put the mom in jail.
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known2FAIL
08/16/17 10:14:05 PM
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thanosibe posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.
Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant.


Are you sure he is shit posting when many here agrees with him?
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mattnd2007
08/16/17 10:15:25 PM
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he absolutely should have intervened. probably shouldn't have killed him though. hopefully he doesn't get convicted.
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thanosibe
08/16/17 10:16:05 PM
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known2FAIL posted...
thanosibe posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.
Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant.


Are you sure he is shit posting when many here agrees with him?
Do you want to live in a country where we check with one man's moral agenda to make sure before we commit murder that it will be without consequence?
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known2FAIL
08/16/17 10:21:34 PM
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thanosibe posted...
known2FAIL posted...
thanosibe posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.
Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant.


Are you sure he is shit posting when many here agrees with him?
Do you want to live in a country where we check with one man's moral agenda to make sure before we commit murder that it will be without consequence?


No but his opinion isn't a shit post at all. You just disagree with it
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awesome999
08/16/17 10:22:06 PM
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Morally he's in the right

Legally he's in the wrong unless the guy was going to kill her
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Bishop9800
08/16/17 10:22:43 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.

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YookaLaylee
08/16/17 10:24:23 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.

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thanosibe
08/16/17 10:30:45 PM
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known2FAIL posted...
thanosibe posted...
known2FAIL posted...
thanosibe posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.
Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant.


Are you sure he is shit posting when many here agrees with him?
Do you want to live in a country where we check with one man's moral agenda to make sure before we commit murder that it will be without consequence?


No but his opinion isn't a shit post at all. You just disagree with it
Ok. Fair enough. We'll have to disagree on that. Condoning or pardoning murder is a pretty shitty opinion to me.
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YookaLaylee
08/16/17 10:34:21 PM
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thanosibe posted...
known2FAIL posted...
thanosibe posted...
known2FAIL posted...
thanosibe posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.
Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant.


Are you sure he is shit posting when many here agrees with him?
Do you want to live in a country where we check with one man's moral agenda to make sure before we commit murder that it will be without consequence?


No but his opinion isn't a shit post at all. You just disagree with it
Ok. Fair enough. We'll have to disagree on that. Condoning or pardoning murder is a pretty shitty opinion to me.

So if someone was about to shoot your mom and there was a gun on the table right next to you, you wouldn't shoot the guy?
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known2FAIL
08/16/17 10:37:22 PM
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YookaLaylee posted...
thanosibe posted...
known2FAIL posted...
thanosibe posted...
known2FAIL posted...
thanosibe posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.
Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant.


Are you sure he is shit posting when many here agrees with him?
Do you want to live in a country where we check with one man's moral agenda to make sure before we commit murder that it will be without consequence?


No but his opinion isn't a shit post at all. You just disagree with it
Ok. Fair enough. We'll have to disagree on that. Condoning or pardoning murder is a pretty shitty opinion to me.

So if someone was about to shoot your mom and there was a gun on the table right next to you, you wouldn't shoot the guy?

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King Rial
08/16/17 10:46:56 PM
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http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article35.htm

I certainly would not vote to convict.
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Solid Snake07
08/16/17 10:57:50 PM
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No, everyone involved life it's totally ruined now
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stoltenberg11
08/17/17 4:05:55 AM
#26:


thanosibe posted...
known2FAIL posted...
thanosibe posted...
known2FAIL posted...
thanosibe posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.
Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant.


Are you sure he is shit posting when many here agrees with him?
Do you want to live in a country where we check with one man's moral agenda to make sure before we commit murder that it will be without consequence?


No but his opinion isn't a shit post at all. You just disagree with it
Ok. Fair enough. We'll have to disagree on that. Condoning or pardoning murder is a pretty shitty opinion to me.

you know affirmative defense has been a thing for a long time right
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Dash_Harber
08/17/17 4:08:03 AM
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No, you can't kill people or take the law into your own hands, no matter how heinous the crime.

However, abusive jerks get no sympathy from me and there is probably some sort of legal defense for someone under that sort of pressure.
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gguirao
08/17/17 4:12:35 AM
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Defintely!
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/17/17 4:35:26 AM
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hope he wasn't the primary bread winner. son might have to step his hustle game up.
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im not 13
08/17/17 4:39:17 AM
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I would of done the same thing
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Sativa_Rose
08/17/17 4:58:14 AM
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This young man is a hero, and they are arresting him for it. Typically New York.
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butthole666
08/17/17 4:59:59 AM
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iPhone_7 posted...
Well hope she's happy now, her son is a murderer. I bet she got with the man knowing he had a criminal record.

and ce immediately finds a way to blame a woman
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chrono625
08/17/17 5:22:47 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
This young man is a hero, and they are arresting him for it. Typically New York.


but he hasn't been convicted of anything.

there was a homicide and he was involved. they had no choice really.
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Sativa_Rose
08/17/17 5:28:02 AM
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chrono625 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
This young man is a hero, and they are arresting him for it. Typically New York.


but he hasn't been convicted of anything.

there was a homicide and he was involved. they had no choice really.


Well they still made the choice to charge him. There absolutely is a choice in doing that.

George Zimmerman was released without charges after killing Trayvon Martin, remember? It was only after the media shitstorm went on for a while that the police decided to go back and charge Zimmerman. So they actually do have the ability to not charge someone after an incident involving a death if they believe the evidence doesn't point to a crime.
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Gamer99z
08/17/17 5:30:52 AM
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I don't know if I'd necessarily say he did "the right thing" but it's a complete fair, next and he shouldn't be charged.
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Blue_Dream87
08/17/17 6:13:34 AM
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Eh. I don't know if I'd say it's morally right, but he was put in a situation where the legal system failed to protect his mother so he had to step in and save her life. Choking the man to death does show that he was more emotional, and honestly, we shouldn't live in a society where heightened emotions can justify killing someone like that. But we also shouldn't live in a society where our justice system would allow this to happen in the first place.

Idk. In an ideal world, this isn't justified. But in reality... It's understandable and I wouldn't charge the kid too harshly (or at all).
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Roxborough4Ever
08/17/17 6:14:07 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
No, you can't kill people or take the law into your own hands, no matter how heinous the crime.


exactly. he needs punishment.
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Nundulan
08/17/17 6:19:14 AM
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chrono625 posted...
if his act prevented the potential death of his mother he 100% did the right thing.

Bingo
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pojr
08/17/17 6:28:46 AM
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If he does get charged, it will probably be like a year in prison and/or community service.
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JE19426
08/17/17 6:29:59 AM
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http://nypost.com/2017/08/15/teen-charged-with-choking-moms-abusive-ex-boyfriend-to-death/
Police said it’s not clear if Moux choked the man only while trying to pull Washington off his mom or if he continued choking him afterward.


I'd say we need to know this before deciding.
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Sativa_Rose
08/17/17 6:31:39 AM
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pojr posted...
If he does get charged, it will probably be like a year in prison and/or community service.


Yeah but the real punishment in America is often future discrimination against you when it comes to things like employment, college, and housing applications.
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NihilistTurian
08/17/17 6:32:49 AM
#43:


RebelElite791 posted...
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified


This. The system repeatedly failed to restrict a clearly dangerous man.

You shouldn't take the law into your own hands, sure, but doing nothing and just letting it happen over and over doesn't exactly feel right either.
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_RETS_
08/17/17 6:39:02 AM
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The dude was in the act of causing physical and potentially fatal harm to the young man's mother. Of course he is in the right.

Is he gonna wait for the police as his mom gets beaten and have the dude come back with another arrest notch on his belt and beat his mom more?
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Mackorov
08/17/17 6:41:39 AM
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If this was a cop that did the act, they'd be on paid leave and free vacation right now. Then all they gotta do is go to court to get acquitted
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/17/17 7:24:33 AM
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uh oh...
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Funkydog
08/17/17 7:42:07 AM
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I can't really blame him, but murder is still against the law. Even then, I do think it could be seen as potentially defending someone else from severe harm rather than murder.
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Sativa_Rose
08/17/17 7:42:58 AM
#48:


Mackorov posted...
If this was a cop that did the act, they'd be on paid leave and free vacation right now. Then all they gotta do is go to court to get acquitted


Yup, remember Eric Garner? He was choked to death for a hell of a lot less than what this ex boyfriend did...
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SuperVegito2487
08/17/17 7:49:34 AM
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awesome999 posted...
Morally he's in the right

Legally he's in the wrong unless the guy was going to kill her


More or less this... i dont know the specifics for when "reasonable" force becomes "unreasonable" and therefore illegal, but i dont see anything wrong morally.
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ThePredominate
08/17/17 7:51:41 AM
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Ethically charged? Give that boy a medal, he's a hero. Where is the dilemma?
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