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known2FAIL 08/16/17 9:52:30 PM #1: |
Let me give some details. The Mom's boyfriend has an arrest record of 26 arrests. Cops were called multiple times for domestic violence at that residence over time. At 4:30 AM her son heard her being beat again through his wall and he ran in there and choked him to death. This is a very ethically charged question. I don't think there is a wrong answer personally... Did he do the right thing? --- The Hanzo main; Potential DOOMFIST Main ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RebelElite791 08/16/17 9:54:15 PM #2: |
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.
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iPhone_7 08/16/17 9:56:10 PM #3: |
Well hope she's happy now, her son is a murderer. I bet she got with the man knowing he had a criminal record.
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stoltenberg11 08/16/17 10:04:22 PM #4: |
Gotta protect the things important to you in life
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thronedfire2 08/16/17 10:06:51 PM #5: |
I don't see a jury convicting him
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Bad_Mojo 08/16/17 10:07:03 PM #6: |
Yes, he did the right thing. But America doesn't agree with that, so he should be punished as stated by the law. We have laws for a reason.
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BignutzisBack 08/16/17 10:07:56 PM #7: |
nope, he should have just beat the shit out of him
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BootyGif 08/16/17 10:08:45 PM #8: |
RebelElite791 posted...
it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 08/16/17 10:09:34 PM #9: |
RebelElite791 posted...
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chrono625 08/16/17 10:12:12 PM #11: |
if his act prevented the potential death of his mother he 100% did the right thing.
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Allanon23 08/16/17 10:12:40 PM #12: |
Good luck finding a jury willing to convict him.
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NeoShadowhen 08/16/17 10:13:47 PM #13: |
Yikes. I mean, choking someone to death isn't easy. You kinda have to keep going after they stop moving.
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known2FAIL 08/16/17 10:14:05 PM #14: |
thanosibe posted...
RebelElite791 posted...I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant. Are you sure he is shit posting when many here agrees with him? --- The Hanzo main; Potential DOOMFIST Main ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mattnd2007 08/16/17 10:15:25 PM #15: |
he absolutely should have intervened. probably shouldn't have killed him though. hopefully he doesn't get convicted.
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thanosibe 08/16/17 10:16:05 PM #16: |
known2FAIL posted...
thanosibe posted...Do you want to live in a country where we check with one man's moral agenda to make sure before we commit murder that it will be without consequence?RebelElite791 posted...I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski ... Copied to Clipboard!
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known2FAIL 08/16/17 10:21:34 PM #17: |
thanosibe posted...
known2FAIL posted...thanosibe posted...Do you want to live in a country where we check with one man's moral agenda to make sure before we commit murder that it will be without consequence?RebelElite791 posted...I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant. No but his opinion isn't a shit post at all. You just disagree with it --- The Hanzo main; Potential DOOMFIST Main ... Copied to Clipboard!
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awesome999 08/16/17 10:22:06 PM #18: |
Morally he's in the right
Legally he's in the wrong unless the guy was going to kill her --- When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 08/16/17 10:22:43 PM #19: |
RebelElite791 posted...
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo. --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YookaLaylee 08/16/17 10:24:23 PM #20: |
RebelElite791 posted...
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 08/16/17 10:30:45 PM #21: |
known2FAIL posted...
thanosibe posted...Ok. Fair enough. We'll have to disagree on that. Condoning or pardoning murder is a pretty shitty opinion to me.known2FAIL posted...thanosibe posted...Do you want to live in a country where we check with one man's moral agenda to make sure before we commit murder that it will be without consequence?RebelElite791 posted...I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YookaLaylee 08/16/17 10:34:21 PM #22: |
thanosibe posted...
known2FAIL posted...thanosibe posted...Ok. Fair enough. We'll have to disagree on that. Condoning or pardoning murder is a pretty shitty opinion to me.known2FAIL posted...thanosibe posted...Do you want to live in a country where we check with one man's moral agenda to make sure before we commit murder that it will be without consequence?RebelElite791 posted...I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant. So if someone was about to shoot your mom and there was a gun on the table right next to you, you wouldn't shoot the guy? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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known2FAIL 08/16/17 10:37:22 PM #23: |
YookaLaylee posted...
thanosibe posted...known2FAIL posted...thanosibe posted...Ok. Fair enough. We'll have to disagree on that. Condoning or pardoning murder is a pretty shitty opinion to me.known2FAIL posted...thanosibe posted...Do you want to live in a country where we check with one man's moral agenda to make sure before we commit murder that it will be without consequence?RebelElite791 posted...I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant. --- The Hanzo main; Potential DOOMFIST Main ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King Rial 08/16/17 10:46:56 PM #24: |
http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article35.htm
I certainly would not vote to convict. --- I use Google... A lot.... >______> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Snake07 08/16/17 10:57:50 PM #25: |
No, everyone involved life it's totally ruined now
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stoltenberg11 08/17/17 4:05:55 AM #26: |
thanosibe posted...
known2FAIL posted...thanosibe posted...Ok. Fair enough. We'll have to disagree on that. Condoning or pardoning murder is a pretty shitty opinion to me.known2FAIL posted...thanosibe posted...Do you want to live in a country where we check with one man's moral agenda to make sure before we commit murder that it will be without consequence?RebelElite791 posted...I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified and he shouldn't be charged imo.Wow. You have been shit posting across the literal board today. Thank goodness your opinion is irrelevant. you know affirmative defense has been a thing for a long time right --- You're such a boring characterless entity. Try getting laid once in a while and maybe you'll have friends and find out what a "joke" is. - derrate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 08/17/17 4:08:03 AM #27: |
No, you can't kill people or take the law into your own hands, no matter how heinous the crime.
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gguirao 08/17/17 4:12:35 AM #28: |
Defintely!
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RickyTheBAWSE 08/17/17 4:35:26 AM #29: |
hope he wasn't the primary bread winner. son might have to step his hustle game up.
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im not 13 08/17/17 4:39:17 AM #30: |
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Sativa_Rose 08/17/17 4:58:14 AM #31: |
This young man is a hero, and they are arresting him for it. Typically New York.
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butthole666 08/17/17 4:59:59 AM #32: |
iPhone_7 posted...
Well hope she's happy now, her son is a murderer. I bet she got with the man knowing he had a criminal record. and ce immediately finds a way to blame a woman --- "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chrono625 08/17/17 5:22:47 AM #33: |
Sativa_Rose posted...
This young man is a hero, and they are arresting him for it. Typically New York. but he hasn't been convicted of anything. there was a homicide and he was involved. they had no choice really. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sativa_Rose 08/17/17 5:28:02 AM #34: |
chrono625 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...This young man is a hero, and they are arresting him for it. Typically New York. Well they still made the choice to charge him. There absolutely is a choice in doing that. George Zimmerman was released without charges after killing Trayvon Martin, remember? It was only after the media shitstorm went on for a while that the police decided to go back and charge Zimmerman. So they actually do have the ability to not charge someone after an incident involving a death if they believe the evidence doesn't point to a crime. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gamer99z 08/17/17 5:30:52 AM #35: |
I don't know if I'd necessarily say he did "the right thing" but it's a complete fair, next and he shouldn't be charged.
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Blue_Dream87 08/17/17 6:13:34 AM #37: |
Eh. I don't know if I'd say it's morally right, but he was put in a situation where the legal system failed to protect his mother so he had to step in and save her life. Choking the man to death does show that he was more emotional, and honestly, we shouldn't live in a society where heightened emotions can justify killing someone like that. But we also shouldn't live in a society where our justice system would allow this to happen in the first place.
Idk. In an ideal world, this isn't justified. But in reality... It's understandable and I wouldn't charge the kid too harshly (or at all). --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Roxborough4Ever 08/17/17 6:14:07 AM #38: |
Dash_Harber posted...
No, you can't kill people or take the law into your own hands, no matter how heinous the crime. exactly. he needs punishment. --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nundulan 08/17/17 6:19:14 AM #39: |
chrono625 posted...
if his act prevented the potential death of his mother he 100% did the right thing. Bingo --- Only in America could you find a way to earn a healthy buck and still keep your attitude on self-destruct ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pojr 08/17/17 6:28:46 AM #40: |
If he does get charged, it will probably be like a year in prison and/or community service.
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JE19426 08/17/17 6:29:59 AM #41: |
http://nypost.com/2017/08/15/teen-charged-with-choking-moms-abusive-ex-boyfriend-to-death/
Police said it’s not clear if Moux choked the man only while trying to pull Washington off his mom or if he continued choking him afterward. I'd say we need to know this before deciding. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sativa_Rose 08/17/17 6:31:39 AM #42: |
pojr posted...
If he does get charged, it will probably be like a year in prison and/or community service. Yeah but the real punishment in America is often future discrimination against you when it comes to things like employment, college, and housing applications. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NihilistTurian 08/17/17 6:32:49 AM #43: |
RebelElite791 posted...
I don't know if it's the "right thing" but it's morally justified This. The system repeatedly failed to restrict a clearly dangerous man. You shouldn't take the law into your own hands, sure, but doing nothing and just letting it happen over and over doesn't exactly feel right either. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_RETS_ 08/17/17 6:39:02 AM #44: |
The dude was in the act of causing physical and potentially fatal harm to the young man's mother. Of course he is in the right.
Is he gonna wait for the police as his mom gets beaten and have the dude come back with another arrest notch on his belt and beat his mom more? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mackorov 08/17/17 6:41:39 AM #45: |
If this was a cop that did the act, they'd be on paid leave and free vacation right now. Then all they gotta do is go to court to get acquitted
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RickyTheBAWSE 08/17/17 7:24:33 AM #46: |
uh oh...
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Funkydog 08/17/17 7:42:07 AM #47: |
I can't really blame him, but murder is still against the law. Even then, I do think it could be seen as potentially defending someone else from severe harm rather than murder.
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Sativa_Rose 08/17/17 7:42:58 AM #48: |
Mackorov posted...
If this was a cop that did the act, they'd be on paid leave and free vacation right now. Then all they gotta do is go to court to get acquitted Yup, remember Eric Garner? He was choked to death for a hell of a lot less than what this ex boyfriend did... --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperVegito2487 08/17/17 7:49:34 AM #49: |
awesome999 posted...
Morally he's in the right More or less this... i dont know the specifics for when "reasonable" force becomes "unreasonable" and therefore illegal, but i dont see anything wrong morally. --- L.J.Gibbs: Rule 51: "Sometimes You're Wrong." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePredominate 08/17/17 7:51:41 AM #50: |
Ethically charged? Give that boy a medal, he's a hero. Where is the dilemma?
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