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The Great Muta 22 08/18/17 4:48:05 PM #51: |
BLAKUboy posted...
gamepimp12 posted...I never got how people wanting us to stop honoring dark history and villians turned into wanting to erase history. Yeah there's that too. Which is why the whole "erase history" argument rings as disingenuous to me. When you have the majority of these statues erected during the Civil Rights movement it's clear they weren't built to "honor history", they were built at best to reshape history and at worse to intimidate people. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jabodie 08/18/17 4:48:08 PM #52: |
Santorin posted...
Probably for the same reason we fail to recognize and admit people like to forget that salves were sold to the man by West Africans during the Atlantic Slave Trade. But we wouldn't want to give credit where credit it due would we. I mean, in modern times there's nobody in the conversation who isn't aware of this. It is only brought up as an extremely weak way to deflect from the relevant conversation in American politics and history: what actual Americans were and are doing as opposed to a foreign country. --- <insert sig here> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 08/18/17 4:48:26 PM #53: |
imagine putting a monument to Al Qaeda up at Ground Zero and framing people who don't want it there as though they're erasing history
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UnfairRepresent 08/18/17 4:48:27 PM #54: |
gamepimp12 posted...
I never got how people wanting us to stop honoring dark history and villians turned into wanting to erase history. That's because ironically you've never actually looked at history If you did you'd realize the path of people who want to erase and destroy it always ends badly. From the spartans to the Library of Alexandria to Nazis to The Islamic State to Stalin. The people who try to hide, erase and deface history are the ones who don't learn from it and it always results in pain and ignorance. History occured, things happen and exist. Trying to remove accounts of them in as many forms as possible is a bad thing that only ends pourly. There is no historical account ever that I am aware of which entailed a group of angry emotional unintelligent people trying to destroying history they dislike that ended in any way positively for anyone. But because said people don't actually look at the history they claim to care about, they don't realize this --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 08/18/17 4:50:48 PM #55: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
gamepimp12 posted...I never got how people wanting us to stop honoring dark history and villians turned into wanting to erase history. You missed the entire point of my post --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Santorin 08/18/17 4:52:52 PM #56: |
Jabodie posted...
Santorin posted...Probably for the same reason we fail to recognize and admit people like to forget that salves were sold to the man by West Africans during the Atlantic Slave Trade. But we wouldn't want to give credit where credit it due would we. No people literally want to be like "my ancestors were slaves by white people and you're white so you're bad!!!" but they forget West Africans sold their own people as slaves during the Atlantic Slave Trade and when you bring it up they are double-standard hypocrites about it. Cherry picking the past to drive their victim narrative implanted my a socialist government meant to control their every aspect of life. Yet "but you're white and I was told what white people are bad because SLAVERY!!!!" It's pretty obvious to see who the irrational ones here are. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/18/17 4:53:00 PM #57: |
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Xelltrix 08/18/17 4:53:57 PM #58: |
Did OP post pics of his aunt yet?
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Santorin 08/18/17 4:55:17 PM #61: |
CrimsonRage posted...
Santorin posted...Jabodie posted...Santorin posted...Probably for the same reason we fail to recognize and admit people like to forget that salves were sold to the man by West Africans during the Atlantic Slave Trade. But we wouldn't want to give credit where credit it due would we. Can't handle the truth huh. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/18/17 4:56:25 PM #62: |
"Im sick of people comparing destroying history to distroying history. I disliked this history so it's OKAY to destroy that. What part of that is hard to understand!?"
And the cycle begins anew. The people who set the library of Alexandria alight didnt think they lost anything of value either --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 08/18/17 4:56:52 PM #63: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
There is no historical account ever that I am aware of which entailed a group of angry emotional unintelligent people trying to destroying history they dislike that ended in any way positively for anyone. You do realize the during the whole "American Revolution" thing we tore down statues of King George right? Or that the statues of Stalin and Lenin were tore down after the fall of the Soviet Bloc? And you're calling others out for being ignorant of history? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jabodie 08/18/17 4:58:30 PM #65: |
Santorin posted...
Before I reply, are you a follower of Alex Jones? --- <insert sig here> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hollow_shrine 08/18/17 4:58:47 PM #66: |
CrimsonRage posted...
I wish people would stop comparing this to ISIS and Taliban destroying ancient artifacts and statues. These aren't relics from a long dead civilisation. These are shitty statues erected by racists a few decades ago. You're not losing anything of value getting rid of them. Also for all that ISIS destroys, a lot of it is also being looted and sold to further finance themselves. The 'how' may look similar but both the 'how' and 'why' are slightly different between these groups. --- https://i.imgtc.com/zyQ3oRW.jpg 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 08/18/17 5:02:35 PM #68: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm not convinced I did My post wasn't about removing history it was about the importance of history, especially neagtive history being told without bias. A fucking statue on government ground is pretty clealry some bias. And how wanting that turned into "THEY WANT TO FORGET ABOUT HISTORY (cept slavery cause y'all want us to forget that)" Which is ironic cause that's just what you did to that post --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 08/18/17 5:02:59 PM #69: |
Santorin posted...
No people literally want to be like "my ancestors were slaves by white people and you're white so you're bad!!!" but they forget West Africans sold their own people as slaves during the Atlantic Slave Trade and when you bring it up they are double-standard hypocrites about it. Cherry picking the past to drive their victim narrative implanted my a socialist government meant to control their every aspect of life. Sure, we absolutely need to inform people that the people sold into slavery were more often than not other tribes that were conquered in Africa. We also should point out that the use of slave labor in the US extended far past other European countries and that the US system of plantation slavery was by far unique to the US compared to the rest of the world. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Atl_Star 08/18/17 7:56:26 PM #70: |
Chad-Henne posted...
Xelltrix posted...darkphoenix181 posted...is she hot? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Benjamin_Sisko 08/18/17 8:35:58 PM #71: |
where are the fucking pics of the aunt
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AimlessDork 08/18/17 9:02:17 PM #72: |
Antifar posted...
Rexdragon125 posted...The "everybody's a winner" generation is coming of age where they have influence. My endgoal is we're going to rename the statues to Participation Trophies since that's what they are. --- GTX 1070, i7-6700, NZXT Phantom 530, W10 Ps4. Ps3. PC. 3DS ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Suchomimus 08/18/17 9:05:44 PM #73: |
Because Trump
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tommybel89 08/18/17 9:41:00 PM #74: |
Ask a statue hater why Obama didn't take care of the statue problem. Watch their head explode when they try to rationalize it.
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tommybel89 08/18/17 9:42:07 PM #75: |
Benjamin_Sisko posted...
where are the fucking pics of the aunt Quick, someone post a picture of Marissa Tomei in Spider-Man!!! --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 08/18/17 9:52:33 PM #76: |
tommybel89 posted...
Ask a statue hater why Obama didn't take care of the statue problem. Watch their head explode when they try to rationalize it. Be honest, you stole this from The_Dipshit didn't you? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3rd_Best_Master 08/18/17 9:54:10 PM #77: |
tommybel89 posted...
Ask a statue hater why Obama didn't take care of the statue problem. Watch their head explode when they try to rationalize it. Just how much authority do you think the president even has? --- You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 08/18/17 10:02:17 PM #78: |
Can't wait to knock down the pyramids in Egypt
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The Great Muta 22 08/18/17 10:03:37 PM #79: |
3rd_Best_Master posted...
tommybel89 posted...Ask a statue hater why Obama didn't take care of the statue problem. Watch their head explode when they try to rationalize it. Remember, a lot of these people feel Obama controlled everything in government for 8 years. Including our CURRENT president lmao --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3rd_Best_Master 08/18/17 10:04:36 PM #80: |
Were the pyramids also built in the 60s in order to racially intimidate black people during the Civil Rights movement?
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KingCrabCake 08/18/17 10:04:57 PM #81: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Rexdragon125 posted...The "everybody's a winner" generation That requires money --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BootyGif 08/18/17 10:05:48 PM #82: |
Cared more about the white supremacists than the statue
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KingCrabCake 08/18/17 10:06:09 PM #83: |
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Were the pyramids also built in the 60s in order to racially intimidate black people during the Civil Rights movement? Built by slaves --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nicklebro 08/18/17 10:07:04 PM #84: |
KingCrabCake posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...Were the pyramids also built in the 60s in order to racially intimidate black people during the Civil Rights movement? Don't think that's actually true. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3rd_Best_Master 08/18/17 10:07:12 PM #85: |
KingCrabCake posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...Were the pyramids also built in the 60s in order to racially intimidate black people during the Civil Rights movement? Prove it or close your account. --- You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 08/18/17 10:07:20 PM #86: |
KingCrabCake posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...Were the pyramids also built in the 60s in order to racially intimidate black people during the Civil Rights movement? So was the White House. No one's calling for that to be torn down. Just monuments to Confederate slavers. Context: it exists! --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 08/18/17 10:09:14 PM #87: |
Antifar posted...
KingCrabCake posted...3rd_Best_Master posted...Were the pyramids also built in the 60s in order to racially intimidate black people during the Civil Rights movement? So its okay if its built by slaves as long its for winners? --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3rd_Best_Master 08/18/17 10:10:14 PM #88: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Antifar posted...KingCrabCake posted...3rd_Best_Master posted...Were the pyramids also built in the 60s in order to racially intimidate black people during the Civil Rights movement? Was the White House also built in the Civil Rights era just to intimidate black people? --- You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 08/18/17 10:10:28 PM #89: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
tommybel89 posted...Ask a statue hater why Obama didn't take care of the statue problem. Watch their head explode when they try to rationalize it. Paraphrased it from Twitter. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 08/18/17 10:11:45 PM #90: |
KingCrabCake posted...
So its okay if its built by slaves as long its for winners? I'm sorry, do you think the problem people have with Confederate monuments is that they were built by slaves? Because A) they weren't B) The problem people have with them is that they glorify tyrants who fought to uphold that tyranny over an entire race of people. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 08/18/17 10:11:48 PM #91: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...tommybel89 posted...Ask a statue hater why Obama didn't take care of the statue problem. Watch their head explode when they try to rationalize it. Oh I know the position is ultimately a joke. It's reality TV. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AimlessDork 08/18/17 11:28:09 PM #92: |
KingCrabCake posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...Were the pyramids also built in the 60s in order to racially intimidate black people during the Civil Rights movement? -Actual ANE Historian here, no, they weren't.- --- GTX 1070, i7-6700, NZXT Phantom 530, W10 Ps4. Ps3. PC. 3DS ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WizardofHoth 08/18/17 11:32:17 PM #93: |
Gee with people being butthurt over "confederate" statues, maybe the statue of liberty should be torn down too
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UnfairRepresent 08/19/17 3:02:34 AM #94: |
WizardofHoth posted...
Gee with people being butthurt over "confederate" statues, maybe the statue of liberty should be torn down too wut --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 08/19/17 8:23:17 AM #95: |
KingCrabCake posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...Were the pyramids also built in the 60s in order to racially intimidate black people during the Civil Rights movement? They were built by the citizens during the flood season, not slaves. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KiwiTerraRizing 08/19/17 8:31:41 AM #96: |
You know NC put up dozens of Confederate statues in the last 15 years?
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iPhone_7 08/19/17 8:33:38 AM #97: |
This topic is filled with so much stupidity that a monument should be built for it.
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Xelltrix 08/19/17 9:16:28 AM #99: |
100 posts and no hot aunt pics wtf.
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wah_wah_wah 08/19/17 9:20:13 AM #100: |
Black people didn't have any input into the building of those statues. The reason why they are being torn down now is a logical consequence of black people having greater franchise in today's society. This is also something that happens every single generation. There's always going to be shit our parents did or supported that we're going to look back on and say, that's not right. To simply continue honoring that even when we know it is wrong is to cultivate hypocrisy.
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