Current Events > C/D: If you have time to lean, you have time to clean

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Rika_Furude
08/21/17 3:54:33 AM
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Do you agree or disagree with this sentiment?


Do you agree or disagree?
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Rika_Furude
08/21/17 4:07:12 AM
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Sphyx
08/21/17 4:10:06 AM
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C, i have time. But it's not in my employment contract.
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Dash_Harber
08/21/17 4:11:06 AM
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Depends entirely on the job description and the place.
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Rika_Furude
08/21/17 4:14:05 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Depends entirely on the job description and the place.

just say you are a network administrator for some company or perhaps an accountant, working in some sort of headquarters or main office
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Dash_Harber
08/21/17 4:18:01 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Depends entirely on the job description and the place.

just say you are a network administrator for some company or perhaps an accountant, working in some sort of headquarters or main office

I don't know, I don't think it is always applicable, but sometimes it is. For example, if someone takes an accountant job because they have a bad back and can't do physical labor, it's unfair to suddenly expect him to mop up the office and clean all the windows. However, if you have a young IT guy and you ask him and his coworkers to bring their trashes to the garbage room after their shift, that is totally reasonable.
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boxington
08/21/17 4:18:43 AM
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I can work while I double up on my styrofoam cup
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Yaridovich
08/21/17 4:20:12 AM
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You have time to smirk you have time to jerk
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Rika_Furude
08/21/17 4:23:29 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Depends entirely on the job description and the place.

just say you are a network administrator for some company or perhaps an accountant, working in some sort of headquarters or main office

I don't know, I don't think it is always applicable, but sometimes it is. For example, if someone takes an accountant job because they have a bad back and can't do physical labor, it's unfair to suddenly expect him to mop up the office and clean all the windows. However, if you have a young IT guy and you ask him and his coworkers to bring their trashes to the garbage room after their shift, that is totally reasonable.

im not thinking from a health perspective, im thinking more from the fact that accountants/IT guys go to uni or undergo certification/training that can take years to complete and then when they have a low amount of work for a period of time their managers want to them to just do shit so they aren't sitting there doing something else
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Rika_Furude
08/21/17 4:23:49 AM
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Yaridovich posted...
You have time to smirk you have time to jerk

words to live by
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Dash_Harber
08/21/17 4:26:44 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Depends entirely on the job description and the place.

just say you are a network administrator for some company or perhaps an accountant, working in some sort of headquarters or main office

I don't know, I don't think it is always applicable, but sometimes it is. For example, if someone takes an accountant job because they have a bad back and can't do physical labor, it's unfair to suddenly expect him to mop up the office and clean all the windows. However, if you have a young IT guy and you ask him and his coworkers to bring their trashes to the garbage room after their shift, that is totally reasonable.

im not thinking from a health perspective, im thinking more from the fact that accountants/IT guys go to uni or undergo certification/training that can take years to complete and then when they have a low amount of work for a period of time their managers want to them to just do shit so they aren't sitting there doing something else

But even then, you run into some fuzzy ground. If they take hours away from the janitors than you have the janitor union up your ass about sending the janitors home early. Then there is the issue of if they get hurt while cleaning, how does liability work? What sort of insurance claim do they file if it wasn't related to his actual work? The whole thing is a hornet's nest and entirely situational.
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Rika_Furude
08/21/17 4:32:57 AM
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i think the liability side would be fairly open and close, at least in australia. they were at work, doing something mildly work related (cleaning the office, even if not in the job description or requested by the boss, is work related), therefore they are covered. not sure how it is in america tho

i can understand being asked to clean in some circumstances (i.e. "the CEO is coming to visit we gotta clean up ASAP lest we bring down hell upon us") but not just for the sake of it
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Solid Snake07
08/21/17 4:39:40 AM
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I only heard this when I was working inn restaurants, and yeah it's bs. Especially when your paying me 2 bucks an hour. Goo fuck yourself
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Dash_Harber
08/21/17 4:49:37 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
i think the liability side would be fairly open and close, at least in australia. they were at work, doing something mildly work related (cleaning the office, even if not in the job description or requested by the boss, is work related), therefore they are covered. not sure how it is in america tho


I don't disagree with you, but sometimes there are weird little things like that and I don't know if the law is like that everywhere.

I'm just saying, three are other things that might cause issues if it were the policy everywhere, all the time.
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