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Capn Circus 08/21/17 12:20:44 PM #1: |
They now want Andrew Jackson removed, a president, and the man who saved New Orleans and ultimately the Louisiana Purchase land from the British.
And they want Columbus gone, too. What a bizarre time we live in where great accomplishments should not be recognized. http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/08/confederate_monuments_city_cou.html http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170820/demonstrators-rally-at-city-hall-to-bring-down-christopher-columbus-statue --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chill02 08/21/17 12:21:09 PM #2: |
Columbus was a dick, though
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ssj3vegeta_ 08/21/17 12:21:12 PM #3: |
Dey gots to go
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AlternativeFAQS 08/21/17 12:22:12 PM #4: |
jackson? that guy who had tons of people murdered? hmm
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Were_Wyrm 08/21/17 12:26:07 PM #6: |
Another statue coming down.
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Samurontai 08/21/17 12:32:34 PM #7: |
Who cares? Statues belong in museums anyway
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3rd_Best_Master 08/21/17 12:32:57 PM #8: |
Capn Circus posted...
About time that shit starts gaining some traction. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 08/21/17 12:34:11 PM #9: |
what do you have to say about this, TC?
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voldothegr8 08/21/17 12:34:26 PM #10: |
Who could have possibility seen this slippery slope happen?
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Samurontai 08/21/17 12:35:19 PM #11: |
Also lol at the notion that all the statues will be removed
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KiwiTerraRizing 08/21/17 12:36:50 PM #12: |
Liberals!
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ZombiePelican 08/21/17 12:47:48 PM #13: |
AlternativeFAQS posted...
jackson? that guy who had tons of people murdered? hmm Doesn't matter, he's known as the Hero of New Orleans and is revered here. Not to mention there's an entire piece of the French Quarter named after him, Jackson stays and if you don't like it go back to Reddit or Tumblr and cry about it --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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De Evolution 08/21/17 12:48:29 PM #14: |
Mt Rushmore will be next
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ZombiePelican 08/21/17 12:49:19 PM #15: |
De Evolution posted...
Mt Rushmore will be next More than likely Stone Mountain is next --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 08/21/17 12:50:41 PM #16: |
In a few short years, the debate has gone from "Is American history irredeemably racist?" to "Washington and Lee are exactly the same, you can't hate one without the other."
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Donomark 08/21/17 12:52:00 PM #17: |
ZombiePelican posted...
AlternativeFAQS posted...jackson? that guy who had tons of people murdered? hmm Hmm...would you be as willing to overlook his moral crimes and celebrate his military victories if he forced your family on a cruel death march? ...It's fine as long as his contempt happened to someone else, right? --- "You can do it your way, or you can be effective." http://dbznextdimension.libsyn.com/ http://cbfrevue.libsyn.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gojak_v3 08/21/17 12:52:20 PM #18: |
Antifar posted...
In a few short years, the debate has gone from "Is American history irredeemably racist?" to "Washington and Lee are exactly the same, you can't hate one without the other." Pretty much, which is surprising coming from you. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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De Evolution 08/21/17 12:52:30 PM #19: |
Trump is always right in the end.
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Anteaterking 08/21/17 12:53:25 PM #20: |
South Dakota has said "**** Columbus" for years now, and they're a pretty red state.
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Antifar 08/21/17 12:55:06 PM #21: |
Gojak_v3 posted...
Pretty much, which is surprising coming from you. My point is that only with this statue debate have conservatives suddenly recognized the deep flaws within American history; in the past they refused to acknowledge it, but here they are quick to point it out so as to defend confederates. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gojak_v3 08/21/17 12:55:14 PM #22: |
Samurontai posted...
Who cares? Statues belong in museums anyway What a completely expected post from you. "Who cares, hur dur, let's get rid of all statues before abolition because they all owned slaves." This is where we are heading. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gojak_v3 08/21/17 12:57:08 PM #23: |
Antifar posted...
Gojak_v3 posted...Pretty much, which is surprising coming from you. I think yer analysis here is wrong and overly broad. The sins of the past weren't in question, so to suggest conservatives somehow didn't agree is disingenuous. Maybe some very small fraction of conservatives thought like this. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StucklnMyPants 08/21/17 12:58:15 PM #24: |
ZombiePelican posted...
De Evolution posted...Mt Rushmore will be next Nah. That makes money and brings in business. They won't touch it. --- The first principle is that you must not fool yourself --- and you are the easiest person to fool. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 08/21/17 1:02:31 PM #26: |
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Hmm...would you be as willing to overlook his moral crimes and celebrate his military victories if he forced your family on a cruel death march? The Trail of Tears was hardly an intended death match. Jackson was between a rock and a hard place. It was either forcefully move the Natives with tons of casualties or let them stay and let settlers butcher them and wipe them out completely. I know you expect there to some solution to make everyone happy but there isn't always and Jackson played his hand the best he could with the shit hand he was dealt. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheBiggerWiggle 08/21/17 1:02:51 PM #27: |
Both Jackson and Columbus committed genocide. Fuck them.
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Samurontai 08/21/17 1:03:53 PM #28: |
Gojak_v3 posted...
Samurontai posted...Who cares? Statues belong in museums anyway No it's not, it's just hilarious to watch conservatives squirm over this lmao --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YourAlt 08/21/17 1:04:33 PM #29: |
Uh, good?
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ImTheMacheteGuy 08/21/17 1:05:41 PM #30: |
The only good thing Columbus ever did was lose in a rap battle against captain kirk.
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Donomark 08/21/17 1:07:03 PM #31: |
ZombiePelican posted...
Donomark posted...Hmm...would you be as willing to overlook his moral crimes and celebrate his military victories if he forced your family on a cruel death march? How quaint. You're taking Jackson's reasoning. People at the time disagreed. Notably, the U.S. Supreme Court. People still do. I'm not naïve, we just don't all take him at his word, especially when thousands of men, women, and children die. --- "You can do it your way, or you can be effective." http://dbznextdimension.libsyn.com/ http://cbfrevue.libsyn.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 08/21/17 1:07:31 PM #33: |
Columbus was a moron anyway
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Sir Will 08/21/17 1:07:51 PM #34: |
Capn Circus posted...
And they want Columbus gone, too. Well he was inhuman scum so good riddance. Samurontai posted... Columbus was a moron anyway No he didn't. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlternativeFAQS 08/21/17 1:08:54 PM #35: |
ZombiePelican posted...
AlternativeFAQS posted...jackson? that guy who had tons of people murdered? hmm wont someone think of the murderer?? also if he's revered there that just makes you guys stupid ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/21/17 1:11:00 PM #36: |
About time. Those two assholes should have never been honored in the first place. Hell, Columbus didn't even do the thing we celebrate him for.
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Gojak_v3 08/21/17 1:11:10 PM #37: |
Samurontai posted...
Gojak_v3 posted...Samurontai posted...Who cares? Statues belong in museums anyway Actually we're laughing at you. Cause in typical liberal fashion they go for overkill with shit like this. "Hey guys we need to completely white wash history before Lincoln, cause they all owned slaves after all." --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 08/21/17 1:11:26 PM #38: |
There is honestly nothing about Columbus worth celebrating, he was such a huge piece of shit in so many ways.
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Samurontai 08/21/17 1:12:52 PM #39: |
Gojak_v3 posted...
Samurontai posted...Gojak_v3 posted...Samurontai posted...Who cares? Statues belong in museums anyway Idk, usually when I find something funny I don't dramatically cry and rant to the world at large Are you really in denial about being a snowflake Gojak? No need for that, now --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 08/21/17 1:13:42 PM #40: |
Donomark posted...
How quaint. You're taking Jackson's reasoning Well yeah, he's the hero of New Orleans he led a ragtag group of random fuckers to victory against the British with very few casualties Donomark posted... People at the time disagreed. Notably, the U.S. Supreme Court. Bullshit, I doubt ANYONE in the time period gave a shit about the well-being of a group of people they had systematiclly been fighting and killing for years Donomark posted... I'm not naïve, Your post says otherwise Donomark posted... we just don't all take him at his word, especially when thousands of men, women, and children die. There's always bound to be casualties in these types of situations, expecting otherwise is beyond naive --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 08/21/17 1:18:15 PM #41: |
Columbus is so lost he lands in the Caribbean, calls the place San Salvador, and calls the people who live there Indians, then kills them by the tons.
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Darkman124 08/21/17 1:19:19 PM #42: |
so long as the statues are removed by edit of democratically elected govts i dont see an issue
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Ilove4chan 08/21/17 1:19:53 PM #43: |
People still thinking Jackson did anything good in his life, other than dying, blows my mind.
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Romulox28 08/21/17 1:20:48 PM #44: |
IMO all racist statues should be taken down and replaced by images of Ahmed "Clockman" (No Longer Just A Clockboy) Mohammad
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ZombiePelican 08/21/17 1:21:40 PM #45: |
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People still thinking Jackson did anything good in his life, other than dying, blows my mind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_New_Orleans --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medz2017 08/21/17 1:22:51 PM #46: |
just say slavery never happened. Problem solved
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Donomark 08/21/17 1:24:38 PM #47: |
"Well yeah, he's the hero of New Orleans he led a ragtag group of random f***ers to victory against the British with very few casualties"
Yes, yes. He is a military hero. I have no idea why this supposedly makes him an honest man whose motives are beyond question. But, whatever. Bulls***, I doubt ANYONE in the time period gave a s*** about the well-being of a group of people they had systematiclly been fighting and killing for years" Stop. You're telling on yourself. What a vicious thing to say. Of course, people cared. Some did anyway. In fact, here's your man Jackson justifying removal: ""It will separate the Indians from immediate contact with settlements of whites; free them from the power of the States; enable them to pursue happiness in their own way and under their own rude institutions; will retard the progress of decay, which is lessening their numbers, and perhaps cause them gradually, under the protection of the Government and through the influence of good counsels, to cast off their savage habits and become an interesting, civilized, and Christian community.” According to Jackson, the move would be nothing but beneficial for all parties. His point of view garnered support from many Americans, many of whom would benefit economically from the removal." Obviously, his rationale is clothed in the language of decency, charity and righteousness. So did he care, or didn't he? You have contradicted your own position by claiming that no one cared about the lives of the native people, and yet claiming that Jackson effectuated the removal out of concern for the well-being of the natives. --- "You can do it your way, or you can be effective." http://dbznextdimension.libsyn.com/ http://cbfrevue.libsyn.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thompson 08/21/17 1:25:40 PM #48: |
Does this mean the end of Columbus day?
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ChromaticAngel 08/21/17 1:26:12 PM #49: |
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How quaint. You're taking Jackson's reasoning. People at the time disagreed. Notably, the U.S. Supreme Court. People still do. I'm not naïve, we just don't all take him at his word, especially when thousands of men, women, and children die. I also agree. What do you wish Jackson had done differently? I see two options. 1. Nothing, aka settlers exterminate them all. 2. Turn the US Military on the settlers and kill his own people. You see another way this could have been resolved? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ilove4chan 08/21/17 1:26:14 PM #50: |
ZombiePelican posted...
Ilove4chan posted...People still thinking Jackson did anything good in his life, other than dying, blows my mind. A useless battle. Not only was the war over, but the British didn't want a part of it. Jackson used this to just enhance his fame --- i actually don't love 4chan NYM - ETI in my heart ... Copied to Clipboard!
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