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Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 9:11:58 AM #51: |
gamepimp12 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...Feline_Heart posted...I don't really know anything about BLM or what they've done, but based on what I've seen it seems like most people hate them solely because of the name. Are you suggesting Chanelle Helm did not make those demands? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 08/22/17 9:14:11 AM #52: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
gamepimp12 posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...gamepimp12 posted...Like for example at Addict Anonymous they don't let support systems speak Plenty people do I have In support of a friend. But they keep most meetings closed to keep trolls away --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 08/22/17 9:15:34 AM #53: |
Feline_Heart posted...
I don't really know anything about BLM or what they've done Protests involving violence and tons of property damage. Chanting for deaths of police officers. Bullying gay rights groups into kicking the police out of gay pride parades. Trying to change the LGBTQ flag to have a fucking brown stripe at the top, in general trying to make everything about them. Racist protests are Berkeley where they had a line that wouldn't let white people cross but allowed other races. Insufferable representatives. Spreading lies about every police shooting incident. Communist rhetoric, irrelevant to black lives. and a whole fucking laundry list of other shit. but based on what I've seen it seems like most people hate them solely because of the name. This is actually a real point, if your organizations name provokes arguments, years after the movement, maybe it would have just been best to add Too at the end? Fuck me. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 9:15:41 AM #54: |
gamepimp12 posted...
But they keep most meetings closed to keep trolls away Do they keep people away based on their race/gender/sexual orientation? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 08/22/17 9:17:02 AM #55: |
Let's take it away from race for a second we're dicussing our favorite video game and it's features around people who don't play the game.
They either are uninterested, don't speak or we end up explaining the game on a basic level instead of talking about the features in depth --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 08/22/17 9:17:55 AM #56: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
gamepimp12 posted...But they keep most meetings closed to keep trolls away Considering it's not based on race gender or sexual orientation in the first place they have no reason too --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3rd_Best_Master 08/22/17 9:21:13 AM #57: |
gamepimp12 posted...
Let's take it away from race for a second we're dicussing our favorite video game and it's features around people who don't play the game. If that's true then they wouldn't accept the invitation to the meeting in the first place. If they're there then that means they atleast have enough of an interest to listen to what everyone else is talking about. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 08/22/17 9:23:00 AM #58: |
3rd_Best_Master posted...
gamepimp12 posted...Let's take it away from race for a second we're dicussing our favorite video game and it's features around people who don't play the game. Imagine the videogame is Dead or Alive 9, and many of the people wanting to show up are staunch feminists who want to gripe about misogyny and put the attention on themselves instead of discussing the game. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 08/22/17 9:25:58 AM #59: |
3rd_Best_Master posted...
gamepimp12 posted...Let's take it away from race for a second we're dicussing our favorite video game and it's features around people who don't play the game. They probably do and you might of turned them on to the game, which is all great, but then you realize you never got a chance to really talk about the advanced features --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 08/22/17 9:26:00 AM #60: |
gamepimp12 posted...
Funkydog posted...All I see it doing it creating more of a divide - invite white people to them actively, make them a part of it. Help them understand things they might not otherwise. Keeping them out will just mean they will continue to not understand/know and perpetuate the "us and them" mentality. Not all will be directly no. But I do think they should be welcomed. Even if just to listen and discuss. I think this of lgbt stuff I go to that don't want straight people in attendance mind. But, if people are coming to mock or interfere that is a problem yes, but outright refusing people to be welcome just perpetuates a divide whatever the divide may be. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 9:28:40 AM #61: |
gamepimp12 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...gamepimp12 posted...But they keep most meetings closed to keep trolls away Neither are experiences. Again, give just one example of an experience a black person can have that a white person cannot have a similar experience of. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 08/22/17 9:29:26 AM #62: |
gamepimp12 posted...
Like you obviously want and cherish your white supporters The people holding segregated meetings don't cherish white supporters. They think white people owe them for past injustices and feel like they're entitled to aid without needing to ask or thank anyone. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3rd_Best_Master 08/22/17 9:31:55 AM #63: |
That_Happened posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...gamepimp12 posted... Attempt your dialogue anyways. You're not helping yourself by being afraid of your opponents and what they have to say. If they're the ones that make the discussion impossible then all you have to do is point at them and you can hang them with their own words and actions... Hey wait a minute... --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Feline_Heart 08/22/17 9:32:12 AM #64: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
gamepimp12 posted...Sephiroth1288 posted...gamepimp12 posted...But they keep most meetings closed to keep trolls away Being followed around stores by security because of their skin color --- Stay woke. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3rd_Best_Master 08/22/17 9:33:29 AM #65: |
gamepimp12 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...gamepimp12 posted... And that's when you invite them back for more and more discussions until you get to the point where you can discuss those advanced features and they'll understand. Maybe by that point they'll have become fans of the game as well and they can have more to contribute and then the discussion will actually become more meaningful. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 9:33:52 AM #66: |
Feline_Heart posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...gamepimp12 posted...Sephiroth1288 posted...gamepimp12 posted...But they keep most meetings closed to keep trolls away Not having your government prosecute your friends and family who were murdered because of their skin color http://www.newsweek.com/zimbabwe-president-robert-mugabe-white-farmers-651326 Got anything else? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 08/22/17 9:33:53 AM #67: |
The Admiral posted...
gamepimp12 posted...Like you obviously want and cherish your white supporters 1. You've sure spoken to them a lot 2. Even if that's is the case that's a problem with the individual and not the concept of miniority only meetings --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 08/22/17 9:35:05 AM #68: |
3rd_Best_Master posted...
gamepimp12 posted...3rd_Best_Master posted...gamepimp12 posted... And maybe more non gamers will come so you have to explain it all over again. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Feline_Heart 08/22/17 9:36:30 AM #69: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Feline_Heart posted...Sephiroth1288 posted...gamepimp12 posted...Sephiroth1288 posted...gamepimp12 posted...But they keep most meetings closed to keep trolls away Apartheid --- Stay woke. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3rd_Best_Master 08/22/17 9:37:02 AM #70: |
gamepimp12 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...gamepimp12 posted... That's completely acceptable. When I'm passionate about what I'm talking about I have no issue trying to ensure other people know about it. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Millennials 08/22/17 9:37:41 AM #71: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Imagine if someone declared a "safe space" where no black people were allowed. Um, we don't have to imagine that. Your lot had it implemented by our government for a couple hundred years of American history and had to be taken from it kicking and screaming, refusing to let go of it to this very day. Sephiroth1288 posted... gamepimp12 posted...I don't get the hate for the no black people meetings For this not to be stupid, you would have to assume that blacks and whites are coming from the same place in history. But why am I wasting effort on you. You know what you're saying is stupid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 08/22/17 9:40:08 AM #72: |
3rd_Best_Master posted...
gamepimp12 posted...3rd_Best_Master posted...gamepimp12 posted... I agree I enjoy it as well , the problem is it gets really hard to make actual progress in your topic if you've got to spend time back tracking every meeting. I think you can agree with that --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkAndEpona 08/22/17 9:40:52 AM #73: |
It's not good to be bring back segregation
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That_Happened 08/22/17 9:41:38 AM #74: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
You know what a lot of white Americans went through? The white farmer purge of Zimbabwe. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 9:42:03 AM #75: |
Feline_Heart posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...Feline_Heart posted...Sephiroth1288 posted...gamepimp12 posted...Sephiroth1288 posted...gamepimp12 posted...But they keep most meetings closed to keep trolls away Still not dissimilar to the example I just gave. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 08/22/17 9:42:08 AM #76: |
gamepimp12 posted...
I agree I enjoy it as well , the problem is it gets really hard to make actual progress in your topic if you've got to spend time back tracking every meeting. Maybe. But so what? If it gets more involved and engaged then it is worth it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 9:42:39 AM #77: |
That_Happened posted...
You know what a lot of white Americans went through? The white farmer purge of Zimbabwe. Oh, so the divide is national, not racial? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Feline_Heart 08/22/17 9:44:11 AM #78: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
That_Happened posted...You know what a lot of white Americans went through? The white farmer purge of Zimbabwe. Isn't BLM an American movement? You're being obtuse --- Stay woke. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 9:46:24 AM #79: |
Feline_Heart posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...That_Happened posted...You know what a lot of white Americans went through? The white farmer purge of Zimbabwe. No? Where'd you get that idea They have chapters in Canada and several european countries Also you completely discount the possibility that white victims in Zimbabwe can't have, ya know, moved here. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 08/22/17 9:48:45 AM #80: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
That_Happened posted...You know what a lot of white Americans went through? The white farmer purge of Zimbabwe. The divide is between your brain and rational thought, Mal_Fet. Don't worry, I'm not here to have an actual discussion with you (because that's a waste). I'm just here to make fun of your never-ending reach to find exceptions that do anything but prove your dumb-ass point. I like my Dead or Alive/feminist trolls example. If gamers want to have a meeting about a game and exclude trolls from derailing the discussion I have no problem with it. I know I'm a white guy who is capable of going to a BLM meeting and shutting the fuck up and listening to them but I also know that several of my friends can't get through a discussion about race without having the need to interject and call every person of color "paranoid." So if BLM wants to have their own meetings with people who have shared experiences Idgaflyingfuck. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 9:51:48 AM #81: |
That_Happened posted...
Says a guy defending segregation. Sorry, once you've gone full-regressive, every insult you have for me feels like a compliment ;) --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 08/22/17 9:56:18 AM #82: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Says a guy defending segregation. I'd say civil rights leaders are turning in their graves over your use of that word (and trying to connect it to actual government-sanctioned segregation of the past), but even dead guys know your full of shit so they're probably just laughing like the rest of us. You're the type of derp to stand in the other team's huddle during a football game and say If I'm not allowed to hear your strategy because of the color of my jersey that's segregation! You're as bad as the high school teacher who wouldn't let me sit in her classroom just because I'm 27! SEGREGATION! --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 9:57:44 AM #83: |
That_Happened posted...
I'd say civil rights leaders are turning in their graves over your use of that word A word that means dividing places up by racial categories? That word? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 08/22/17 10:01:46 AM #84: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
That_Happened posted...I'd say civil rights leaders are turning in their graves over your use of that word (and trying to connect it to actual government-sanctioned segregation of the past) No, the word that means the bold part that you purposely excluded. Derp. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 10:03:11 AM #85: |
That_Happened posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...That_Happened posted...I'd say civil rights leaders are turning in their graves over your use of that word (and trying to connect it to actual government-sanctioned segregation of the past) Segregation doesn't need to be government-enforced to be segregation So you support segregation, yes? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 08/22/17 10:08:16 AM #86: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Segregation doesn't need to be government-enforced to be segregation Then we disagree, because people self-segregate all the time. There's a reason no one invites you to parties, for example. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 10:23:57 AM #87: |
That_Happened posted...
Then we disagree, because people self-segregate all the time. You can choose who to associate with personally, but quarantining a space against people of a certain race is called So you support it then, right? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 08/22/17 10:33:43 AM #88: |
Wait thats Mal ? Explains so much
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That_Happened 08/22/17 10:34:05 AM #89: |
gamepimp12 posted...
Wait thats Mal ? Explains so much Yep. His main is in purgatory because of course it is. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medz2017 08/22/17 10:34:25 AM #90: |
I thought white people should hate segregation
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That_Happened 08/22/17 10:37:49 AM #91: |
Medz2017 posted...
I thought white people should hate segregation It's more like IDGAF (which I already said) and don't take it as a personal afront if some black people want to have a black-only meeting. Doesn't affect me in the slightest. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 08/22/17 10:55:08 AM #92: |
gamepimp12 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...gamepimp12 posted...But they keep most meetings closed to keep trolls away An organization literally named 'Black Lives Matter,' that kicks white people out of meetings and demands their shit, isn't about race? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 08/22/17 10:57:02 AM #93: |
LinkAndEpona posted...
It's not good to be bring back segregation Oddly enough, it's black people that want to. But, hey, Dems love segregation along racial lines - they did it the last time, too. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 08/22/17 11:01:13 AM #94: |
darkjedilink posted...
gamepimp12 posted...Sephiroth1288 posted...gamepimp12 posted...But they keep most meetings closed to keep trolls away They were talking about AA meetings at this point, not BLM. darkjedilink posted... But, hey, Dems love segregation along racial lines - they did it the last time, too. Um, no. Democrats in the North and South were more likely to vote for the Civil Rights act than Republicans in the North and South. The defining factor was more about geography than party. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 08/22/17 12:11:07 PM #95: |
That_Happened posted...
darkjedilink posted...gamepimp12 posted...Sephiroth1288 posted...gamepimp12 posted...But they keep most meetings closed to keep trolls away Dems had the south in a vice. The only reason they went along with the CRA, after over a decade of unified opposition, was because LBJ pointed out that they'd own black people again. As in, new slavery. That's how Dems have always seen black people, and how they always will. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 08/22/17 12:20:12 PM #96: |
darkjedilink posted...
Dems had the south in a vice. The only reason they went along with the CRA, after over a decade of unified opposition, was because LBJ pointed out that they'd own black people again. No again. Dems in the south didn't "go along with the Civil Rights Act." They voted heavily against it. But they were more likely to vote for it than southern Republicans (zero southern Repubs in the House AND Senate voted for the CRA). Keep digging that hole, buddy. I'm sure you'll find some more alternative facts down there. Lol. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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De Evolution 08/22/17 12:22:42 PM #97: |
The Admiral posted...
gamepimp12 posted...Like you obviously want and cherish your white supporters Let's be honest. The people holding these meetings are mainly mentally ill and damaged people. The people in BLM constantly promoting victimhood and telling white people they aren't allowed to join their complaining meetings and cry sessions are not big on logic and reason and accountability. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 08/22/17 12:30:44 PM #98: |
De Evolution posted...
Let's be honest. The people holding these meetings are mainly mentally ill and damaged people. You're saying this on a message board where 70% of the population who responded to a poll either have been diagnosed with mental illness or identify themselves as mentally ill. Just so you're aware of your audience. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MattSFfrd 08/22/17 12:46:20 PM #99: |
That_Happened posted...
De Evolution posted...Let's be honest. The people holding these meetings are mainly mentally ill and damaged people. that's probably a little low for CE tbqh --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 08/22/17 1:19:57 PM #100: |
That_Happened posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...Says a guy defending segregation. I'd say civil rights leaders are rolling in their graves that, after fighting and dying to end segregation, liberals want to re-implement it. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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