Current Events > Which political party is most guilty of employing emotional appeal?

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It's most definitely a wash.
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Both
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Xelltrix posted...

It's most definitely a wash.

I think you might be right tbqh. It's hard to answer. Interested to see what the consensus on CE will be.
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Feline_Heart posted...

Both

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CE will just blindly vote for opposition party.
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I'm gonna say the one that exaggerates moving a statue as trying to destroy history

They're both about equal as far as employing this tactic, but Republicans are usually the ones that talk down to people about "letting their emotions get the better of them" or whatever.
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All of them. Every single one.

Horus_Leftfield posted...

I'm gonna say the one that exaggerates moving a statue as trying to destroy history

I think they forgot that those statues will end up in museums, and that the people those statues represent will still be in history books.
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At the center of both liberalism and conservatism's core values are strong emotional appeals. Care and fairness vs reverence and self-determinism.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

All of them. Every single one.

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republicans are fueled by nostalgia for a time that they never lived in that basically never even existed

democrats are fueled by individual sob stories that is extended to be about an entire group of people or policy ("this is Mary. she's a single mom with 9 kids and works 80 hours a week to feed them. this is why we need universal healthcare")

so overall id say democrats, although republicans have their shares of emotional appeal too. but democrats always have sob stories going. remember the parents of the muslim soldier that died who spoke at the DNC this year for example?
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Horus_Leftfield posted...

I'm gonna say the one that exaggerates moving a statue as trying to destroy history

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Romulox28 posted...

republicans are fueled by nostalgia for a time that they never lived in that basically never even existed

democrats are fueled by individual sob stories that is extended to be about an entire group of people or policy ("this is Mary. she's a single mom with 9 kids and works 80 hours a week to feed them. this is why we need universal healthcare")

so overall id say democrats, although republicans have their shares of emotional appeal too. but democrats always have sob stories going. remember the parents of the muslim soldier that died who spoke at the DNC this year for example?

Yeah fuck those parents and their dead kid am I right?

Horus_Leftfield posted...

Romulox28 posted...

republicans are fueled by nostalgia for a time that they never lived in that basically never even existed

democrats are fueled by individual sob stories that is extended to be about an entire group of people or policy ("this is Mary. she's a single mom with 9 kids and works 80 hours a week to feed them. this is why we need universal healthcare")

so overall id say democrats, although republicans have their shares of emotional appeal too. but democrats always have sob stories going. remember the parents of the muslim soldier that died who spoke at the DNC this year for example?

Yeah fuck those parents and their dead kid am I right?

i dont think you're getting my point lol
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Horus_Leftfield posted...

Romulox28 posted...

republicans are fueled by nostalgia for a time that they never lived in that basically never even existed

democrats are fueled by individual sob stories that is extended to be about an entire group of people or policy ("this is Mary. she's a single mom with 9 kids and works 80 hours a week to feed them. this is why we need universal healthcare")

so overall id say democrats, although republicans have their shares of emotional appeal too. but democrats always have sob stories going. remember the parents of the muslim soldier that died who spoke at the DNC this year for example?

Yeah fuck those parents and their dead kid am I right?

This did literally nothing to refute his point. It possibly helped it.
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Horus_Leftfield posted...

Romulox28 posted...

republicans are fueled by nostalgia for a time that they never lived in that basically never even existed

democrats are fueled by individual sob stories that is extended to be about an entire group of people or policy ("this is Mary. she's a single mom with 9 kids and works 80 hours a week to feed them. this is why we need universal healthcare")

so overall id say democrats, although republicans have their shares of emotional appeal too. but democrats always have sob stories going. remember the parents of the muslim soldier that died who spoke at the DNC this year for example?

Yeah fuck those parents and their dead kid am I right?

Jesus how dumb are you.
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Idk, it seems our country's to the point where "It's wrong to stereotype people or generalize them based on their race or religion" is an emotional appeal now and not, you know, moral.

hollow_shrine posted...

At the center of both liberalism and conservatism's core values are strong emotional appeals. Care and fairness vs reverence and self-determinism.

Yup I will say that conservatives tend to be much less self-aware of how emotionally based their platform is, even on fiscal issues (aka taxes are evil because loss aversion is a thing etc...). A larger portion of their base thinks that they are the 'rational' party.
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Horus_Leftfield posted...

Idk, it seems our country's to the point where "It's wrong to stereotype people or generalize them based on their race or religion" is an emotional appeal now and not, you know, moral.

are you old enough to use this site

Republicans use emotional appeal for every single social issue they oppose

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Horus_Leftfield posted...

Idk, it seems our country's to the point where "It's wrong to stereotype people or generalize them based on their race or religion" is an emotional appeal now and not, you know, moral.

are you old enough to use this site

Yeah, I'm not sure most other users are old enough emotionally though

Conservatism is entirely based on emotion, Liberalism was a response to it developed during the Enlightenment.

Asherlee10 posted...

EX: Democrats often don't have much more than an emotional appeal to firearms and firearm rights

I'm sure that's what the NRA has told you but if we actually use reason instead of emotion...

Dems and pubs are both super guilty of this
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Horus_Leftfield posted...

Idk, it seems our country's to the point where "It's wrong to stereotype people or generalize them based on their race or religion" is an emotional appeal now and not, you know, moral.

Let's use some critical thinking here. Why do you think the parents of the slain Muslim soldier spoke at the DNC? What was their objective?
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Romulox28 posted...

Horus_Leftfield posted...

Idk, it seems our country's to the point where "It's wrong to stereotype people or generalize them based on their race or religion" is an emotional appeal now and not, you know, moral.

Let's use some critical thinking here. Why do you think the parents of the slain Muslim soldier speak at the DNC? What was their objective?

Be careful with your phrasing because apparently some people will interpret just bringing this up as disgust with the parents and lack of sympathy for the soldier
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Republicans appeal to fear and moral superiority/righteousness.

The DNC sucks and can't organize a fucking coherent sentiment.

So Republicans win(i.e. lose).
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Romulox28 posted...

Why do you think the parents of the slain Muslim soldier speak at the DNC? What was their objective?

To emphasize the fact that Muslims are as American as any other group of people and the treatment they get from the right is irrational.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

Romulox28 posted...

Why do you think the parents of the slain Muslim soldier speak at the DNC? What was their objective?

To emphasize the fact that Muslims are as American as any other group of people and the treatment they get from the right is irrational.

You're getting a little warmer. Why did they speak at the DNC, though? Why not make a Youtube video, put it on Facebook, speak on the news, deliver a press conference, etc? What is special about the DNC?
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literally everyone does this
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Romulox28 posted...

Horus_Leftfield posted...

Idk, it seems our country's to the point where "It's wrong to stereotype people or generalize them based on their race or religion" is an emotional appeal now and not, you know, moral.

Let's use some critical thinking here. Why do you think the parents of the slain Muslim soldier spoke at the DNC? What was their objective?

To throw Donald Trumps anti-Muslim rhetoric back in his face and accuse him of being fake in his patriotism because while they lost their son for name of this country, he's sacrificed nothing. I'm pretty sure I'm paraphrasing that line, but it's the most memorable moment in that speech.

So is that an emotional appeal. Yes. It's also a topical rebuttal to a point made by the other side.
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Butterfiles posted...

literally everyone does this

That's why the word 'most' is in the question.
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There's nothing wrong with emotions or appeals to them.

hollow_shrine posted...

Romulox28 posted...

Horus_Leftfield posted...

Idk, it seems our country's to the point where "It's wrong to stereotype people or generalize them based on their race or religion" is an emotional appeal now and not, you know, moral.

Let's use some critical thinking here. Why do you think the parents of the slain Muslim soldier spoke at the DNC? What was their objective?

To throw Donald Trumps anti-Muslim rhetoric back in his face and accuse him of being fake in his patriotism because while they lost their son for name of this country, he's sacrificed nothing. I'm pretty sure I'm paraphrasing that line, but it's the most memorable moment in that speech.

So is that an emotional appeal. Yes. It's also a topical rebuttal to a point made by the other side.

Correct, they were speaking at the DNC to get you to vote for Hillary Clinton. They told a heartbreaking (and relatable to any parents) story about a son who died for his country and how Hillary Clinton would support this person more than the other candidate, Donald Trump. The end goal here is to use this emotional appeal to get you to support and ultimately vote for Hillary Clinton. This is textbook stuff

ElatedVenusaur posted...

There's nothing wrong with emotions or appeals to them.

Ideally you should be making your opinions based on facts and logic, not being swayed by emotion. Sometimes it works out ok, but emotion can be good or bad.
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Republicans are much better at it, Democrats very much like to pretend they are rational technocrats for some reason
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Romulox28 posted...

Broseph_Stalin posted...

Romulox28 posted...

Why do you think the parents of the slain Muslim soldier speak at the DNC? What was their objective?

To emphasize the fact that Muslims are as American as any other group of people and the treatment they get from the right is irrational.

You're getting a little warmer. Why did they speak at the DNC, though? Why not make a Youtube video, put it on Facebook, speak on the news, deliver a press conference, etc? What is special about the DNC?

You're fishing so fucking hard all you're doing is betraying the point you're failing to make.
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Balrog0 posted...

Republicans are much better at it, Democrats very much like to pretend they are rational technocrats for some reason

It's a relativity thing. Compared to how one side handles discourse, it's basically the role you have to fill. Though I do get what you mean when it comes to stuff like the environment and health and gun control. But when the rebuttal is full of condescension, mistrust, and venom, it still looks a more organized thought process.

... At least imo.

Disclaimer: It didn't used to be like this. I remember when I was a moderate and could find agreement with both sides. It's just rarer nowadays for people who identify as staunch conservatives to look to actually defend a position that they feel is right without the need to be combative about something. It's always a treat whenever I can find a levelheaded Republican who can articulate their points well and can actually back their shit up with a series of facts that either reduces the emotional response or actually justifies it. I actually get to learn shit from people with different viewpoints that way when they're willing to acknowledge counterarguments so that they can have a coherent, responsive rebuttal.

Just seems like a fucking shouting match lately. Like literally primates howling.
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Romulox28 posted...

Ideally you should be making your opinions based on facts and logic, not being swayed by emotion

And that's exactly what the DNC was doing.

Kineth posted...

It's a relativity thing. Compared to how one side handles discourse, it's basically the role you have to fill. Though I do get what you mean when it comes to stuff like the environment and health and gun control. But when the rebuttal is full of condescension, mistrust, and venom, it still looks a more organized thought process.

... At least imo.

nah, I get siding with dems over the GOP literally every time. I'm more confused about why they think it's an effective style for campaigning. It's like they saw that Obama was articulate and smart and thought they could apply that to every race or something.
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Asherlee10 posted...

I suspect fewer people own firearms in Hawaii than in Texas for numerous reasons like, there is more hunting in Texas.

I don't think hunters are the cause of most gun crime in the US but whatever you have to tell yourself.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

I don't think hunters are the cause of most gun crime in the US but whatever you have to tell yourself.

your numbers specifically include legal killings, lmao
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Balrog0 posted...

your numbers specifically include legal killings, lmao

For all states, yes.

Balrog0 posted...

Broseph_Stalin posted...

I don't think hunters are the cause of most gun crime in the US but whatever you have to tell yourself.

your numbers specifically include legal killings, lmao

The table does say it's looking at all gun related deaths in the title.
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hollow_shrine posted...

The table does say it's looking at all gun related deaths in the title.

yeah, I know. notice how equivocation turned it into gun crimes, which isn't even the same thing as illegal gun deaths

the point being, this is exactly how democrats are w/r/t logic. it's not like you even need to equivocate here, you can make the point while being factual
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Democrats are trying to appeal to people;s emotions to do what is right. Republicans just want to stir up people's fears and anger without doing anything.
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