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APM
08/23/17 2:53:22 PM
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College admissions by Merit or Race Quotas?


Affirmative action is blatantly racist against Asians. Asians need higher GPA and SAT scores if they want to get into a good university than other races.

Some people are at a point where they have to fake their race if they want to get into a good college
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That_Happened
08/23/17 2:55:37 PM
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/23/17 2:55:54 PM
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banning it will be like repealing Obamacare all over again. many who'd want it gone would end up learning that they just fucked themselves or a loved one because they thought it only benefitted the people they resent.
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08/23/17 2:56:06 PM
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By now, yes. It was a much more necessary decades ago, but it not necessary anymore. It's basically racist.
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APM
08/23/17 2:57:12 PM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
banning it will be like repealing Obamacare all over again. many who'd want it gone would end up learning that they just fucked themselves or a loved one because they thought it only benefitted the people they resent.

What do Asians gain from affirmative action? Especially for College admissions?
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obsolete
08/23/17 2:57:24 PM
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In the future Asian people will get plastic surgery to avoid affirmative action.
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DarkChozoGhost
08/23/17 3:00:43 PM
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Quotas are banned. Minorities aren't getting in over better qualified candidates, they're getting in over similarly qualified candidates.
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/23/17 3:04:04 PM
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APM posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
banning it will be like repealing Obamacare all over again. many who'd want it gone would end up learning that they just fucked themselves or a loved one because they thought it only benefitted the people they resent.

What do Asians gain from affirmative action? Especially for College admissions?


how about you edit your OP to be specific?
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APM
08/23/17 3:06:41 PM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
APM posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
banning it will be like repealing Obamacare all over again. many who'd want it gone would end up learning that they just fucked themselves or a loved one because they thought it only benefitted the people they resent.

What do Asians gain from affirmative action? Especially for College admissions?


how about you edit your OP to be specific?

I'm good
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/23/17 3:07:11 PM
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APM posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
APM posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
banning it will be like repealing Obamacare all over again. many who'd want it gone would end up learning that they just fucked themselves or a loved one because they thought it only benefitted the people they resent.

What do Asians gain from affirmative action? Especially for College admissions?


how about you edit your OP to be specific?

I'm good


not at trolling though.
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Kineth
08/23/17 3:07:43 PM
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If you don't want your white mothers and sisters and cousins having jobs then sure, ban Affirmative action.
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darkjedilink
08/23/17 3:18:24 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Quotas are banned. Minorities aren't getting in over better qualified candidates, they're getting in over similarly qualified candidates.

All bullshit.
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Kineth
08/23/17 3:19:45 PM
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No, it isn't.
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APM
08/23/17 7:25:03 PM
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Kineth posted...
If you don't want your white mothers and sisters and cousins having jobs then sure, ban Affirmative action.

What the hell does that supposed to mean?
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/23/17 7:33:22 PM
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APM posted...
Kineth posted...
If you don't want your white mothers and sisters and cousins having jobs then sure, ban Affirmative action.

What the hell does that supposed to mean?


it means you made a topic to give an opinion on something you don't even understand and couldn't be bothered to research it first.

basically robbing you of any shot of tricking people into believing you're credible.
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APM
08/23/17 7:35:38 PM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
APM posted...
Kineth posted...
If you don't want your white mothers and sisters and cousins having jobs then sure, ban Affirmative action.

What the hell does that supposed to mean?


it means you made a topic to give an opinion on something you don't even understand and couldn't be bothered to research it first.

basically robbing you of any shot of tricking people into believing you're credible.

Not necessary to do research when it's clear as day that affirmative action takes from the high achieving and gives it to the under performers who don't deserve it.
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Lightsasori
08/23/17 7:37:00 PM
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I think there should be AA based off from income class and not by race.
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That_Happened
08/23/17 9:59:09 PM
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APM posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
APM posted...
Kineth posted...
If you don't want your white mothers and sisters and cousins having jobs then sure, ban Affirmative action.

What the hell does that supposed to mean?


it means you made a topic to give an opinion on something you don't even understand and couldn't be bothered to research it first.

basically robbing you of any shot of tricking people into believing you're credible.

Not necessary to do research when it's clear as day that affirmative action takes from the high achieving and gives it to the under performers who don't deserve it.

He also meant that the group affirmative action helps most is white women. So by getting rid of it you're just fucking yourself.
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Sephiroth1288
08/23/17 10:02:40 PM
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That_Happened posted...
He also meant that the group affirmative action helps most is white women.

How is that a defense of AA?

The problem with AA is that it discriminates against people based on their sex and race. Doesn't matter which race/gender it helps.
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APM
08/23/17 10:36:03 PM
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That_Happened posted...
He also meant that the group affirmative action helps most is white women. So by getting rid of it you're just fucking yourself.

You're telling me you wouldn't be ashamed if your self if the only reason why a company selects you over a more competent person is because if your race and gender? Where's your dignity?
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Kineth
08/23/17 10:39:03 PM
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You're the one assuming that that's how and why companies do it.

Probably cause you do no research on your shit show to hate on minorities, specifically black people.
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APM
08/23/17 10:42:14 PM
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Kineth posted...
You're the one assuming that that's how and why companies do it.

Probably cause you do no research on your shit show to hate on minorities, specifically black people.

Well you hate on minorities, specifically Asians.
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Kineth
08/23/17 10:43:40 PM
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I do? Let me tell my many Asian friends and ex-girlfriends that.

And let me go tell my neighbors that I apparently hate them too.

Whose fucking shithead alt are you?
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APM
08/23/17 10:45:02 PM
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Kineth posted...
I do? Let me tell my many Asian friends and ex-girlfriends that.

And let me go tell my neighbors that I apparently hate them too.

Whose fucking shithead alt are you?

There's the classic "I can't be racist because I am friends with a minority" defense
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Mist_Turnips
08/23/17 10:45:21 PM
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Yes. The rage the topic induces is proof.
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Kineth
08/23/17 10:47:07 PM
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APM posted...
Kineth posted...
I do? Let me tell my many Asian friends and ex-girlfriends that.

And let me go tell my neighbors that I apparently hate them too.

Whose fucking shithead alt are you?

There's the classic "I can't be racist because I am friends with a minority" defense


How about this. Prove that I talk shit about Asians all the time.

Or even once.
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APM
08/23/17 10:47:54 PM
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Kineth posted...

How about this. Prove that I talk shit about Asians all the time.

Or even once.

There's the even more used "I can't be racist because I don't directly talk shit about X minorities" defense

Defending affirmative action means you're against Asians. You don't want them in your school or want to see them succeed.
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Kineth
08/23/17 10:49:10 PM
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Oh, I see. You know you can't hang with me in an argument so you're using the "Let me just make up shit about the opposition to make myself look good by comparison because otherwise they're gonna make me look like the spoiled tub of dookie butter" defense.
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APM
08/23/17 11:05:00 PM
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
Kineth is a known racist, idk why you're trying to get him to admit it

Ah, it's my first time interacting with that guy. Pretty clear he's a racist.
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/23/17 11:08:43 PM
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
Kineth is a known racist, idk why you're trying to get him to admit it


says the guy who got disciplined by mods for racism on the rap board.

literally told a Black guy that he's not Black enough because he was light skinned.
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That_Happened
08/23/17 11:10:29 PM
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APM posted...
You're telling me you wouldn't be ashamed if your self if the only reason why a company selects you over a more competent person is because if your race and gender? Where's your dignity?


Are you self aware at all? They did that for white men for years and decades and centuries, and STILL do in many cases, and very few of us ever turned down the jobs. And do you know why? Because your definition of "dignity" doesn't mean anything when you have bills and responsibilities and families to pay for. And you know damn well you wouldn't turn down a job you needed, even if you knew they selected you over someone better. You'd rationalize it just like anyone else, and do the job to the best of your ability. I've been given jobs that I was qualified for, but I've also gotten jobs where I knew somebody, or I had family members working there (and I may not have been the best candidate in those situations either). And I don't feel the least bit bad about it. I would suggest everybody latch on to whatever advantages they can get in this world, and that includes affirmative action. If you're a minority or a white woman and you can make affirmative action work for you, then great. I'll be over here using my connections to try to get ahead. All is fair in college and jobs.
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/23/17 11:14:33 PM
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
I didn't get disciplined by the mods, I closed my account. Kastrada telling lies again?

And I made the mistake of thinking that a guy was reinforcing so many negative stereotypes onto his supposed race, I thought he was a white kid being a piece of shit. I found out later I was wrong. Big_Boss is still a piece of shit, he's a mysoginistic racist murderer-defender and he deserves no defense from anyone.


you also like to tell Black people how to feel about being called the N-word. you've got a long history, bud. you don't get to call others racist.
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Kineth
08/23/17 11:38:53 PM
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
Kineth is a known racist, idk why you're trying to get him to admit it


Kineth posted...
Oh, I see. You know you can't hang with me in an argument so you're using the "Let me just make up shit about the opposition to make myself look good by comparison because otherwise they're gonna make me look like the spoiled tub of dookie butter" defense.


It's the same with the white supremacist accounts. Discredit the opposition that actually poses a threat. It wouldn't be as easy to figure out who y'all were if you all didn't rely on the exact same tired fucking tactics. Literally Hoth buddy-buddy bullshit in this topic.
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Kineth
08/23/17 11:53:56 PM
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Probably here when it never happened.
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YourAlt
08/23/17 11:54:45 PM
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Affirmative action helps white women more than any other group.
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TheMikh
08/23/17 11:54:53 PM
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Honestly, it should be along socioeconomic lines. Drawing it along racial lines is creating damaging stereotypes of the demographics that most benefit from it.
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Kineth
08/23/17 11:56:16 PM
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TheMikh posted...
Honestly, it should be along socioeconomic lines. Drawing it along racial lines is creating damaging stereotypes of the demographics that most benefit from it.


Odd because no one gives white women shit about it.
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Zodd3224
08/23/17 11:59:59 PM
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I wouldnt mind getting rid of it just to stop hearing people bitch about it.

But on the other hand, one of my friends candidly told me that when he sees applications with names like 'Jamal' and 'Dante' he throws them in the trash without even looking at them :/
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TheMikh
08/24/17 12:03:01 AM
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Kineth posted...
TheMikh posted...
Honestly, it should be along socioeconomic lines. Drawing it along racial lines is creating damaging stereotypes of the demographics that most benefit from it.


Odd because no one gives white women shit about it.

White women are too powerful to openly criticize or question.
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Kineth
08/24/17 5:49:24 AM
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
Kineth posted...
Probably here when it never happened.


Lmao

You're such a joke. You want people to see your side and you get pissed/disappear when someone in the middle you typically argue with ends up agreeing with you. You just love arguing, plain and simple.


I don't trust the intent of people on this board and don't appreciate the unwarranted insults and complete lies about the type of person I am. I'm not a racist. I may be a snide asshole, but I'm not a racist. If you want me to not be rude to you, maybe don't attack my character. Maybe don't lie to me. Maybe listen to what I'm saying and respond to it instead of ignoring it. Have a conversation that isn't full of rude mannerisms.

And it's so fucking stupid that this clear deflection is being used in a topic that had a manipulated intent to cast a bad light on minorities.
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