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Antifar 08/29/17 11:49:54 AM #1:	https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/08/28/illinois-becomes-10th-state-to-automatically-register-voters-a-democratic-party-goal/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.8c9d93b2139c Locked out of power in much of the country, Democrats celebrated a victory today in the fifth most populous state when Gov. Bruce Rauner (R-Ill.) signed automatic voter registration into law. “I think we have a good, strong piece of legislation that makes it easier for everyone who’s eligible to vote to be able to vote,” Rauner said in a signing statement, thanking Democrats who amended a bill that he’d once opposed. And by signing on, Rauner made Illinois the 10th state to start implementing “AVR,” which in just two years has become a defining cause for progressive activists. Progressive think tanks have sold the idea as a cheap way to increase voter turnout. Democrats see it as a way to increase their margins with voters likely to agree with them, but unlikely to take time to register. Our Revolution, the activist group launched by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), is pressuring legislators to endorse Sanders’s national AVR bill, which like most progressive bills is stalled. “If we believe in a vibrant democracy, we need to have the highest voter turnout in the world,” Sanders said last year, after Vermont joined the shortlist of AVR states. “Enough with cowardly politicians protecting themselves by suppressing the vote.” Illinois is just the second state where Republican leadership has signed off on AVR; the first was Georgia, where in just four months of AVR, close to 600,000 people registered to vote. Oregon’s law, which went into effect last year, is seen by progressives as the model. It’s “opt-in,” meaning anyone who interacts with the state’s Department of Motor Vehicles is registered, unless he or she asks not to be. And it was promoted by Gov. Kate Brown (D-Ore.), a former secretary of state who rose to the governor’s office when her predecessor resigned due to scandal, and who previously championed the state’s vote-by-mail program. In 2016, Oregon’s voter turnout rose by 4.1 percent, higher than any other state. “I think we should be fighting like hell to make sure that we make voting more accessible to more Americans,” Brown said in an interview with the Post earlier this year, after she appeared at the semiannual Democracy Alliance donor conference. “We’re literally using the data from the DMV and handing it to the secretary of state’s office to register voters.” The increased turnout did not lead to Democratic victories up and down the ballot; Oregon Democrats actually lost ground in the state legislature, and lost control of Brown’s old office. But a study by Demos, a progressive think tank which supports AVR, found that the population of voters who came onto the rolls automatically was less white than the population registered under the opt-in system. That could matter greatly in Illinois, a onetime swing state that now votes strongly Democratic in presidential elections, but sees turnout fall drastically in midterms. In 2014, Rauner won his gubernatorial race with just 1,823,627 votes. Two years later, Donald Trump won 2,146,015 votes in Illinois’s presidential race, good enough only to lose to Hillary Clinton, in her home state, by a 17-point landslide. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:885654662] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/08/28/illinois-becomes-10th-state-to-automatically-register-voters-a-democratic-party-goal/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.8c9d93b2139c <quote>Locked out of power in much of the country, Democrats celebrated a victory today in the fifth most populous state when Gov. Bruce Rauner (R-Ill.) signed automatic voter registration into law. “I think we have a good, strong piece of legislation that makes it easier for everyone who’s eligible to vote to be able to vote,” Rauner said in a signing statement, thanking Democrats who amended a bill that he’d once opposed. And by signing on, Rauner made Illinois the 10th state to start implementing “AVR,” which in just two years has become a defining cause for progressive activists. Progressive think tanks have sold the idea as a cheap way to increase voter turnout. Democrats see it as a way to increase their margins with voters likely to agree with them, but unlikely to take time to register. Our Revolution, the activist group launched by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), is pressuring legislators to endorse Sanders’s national AVR bill, which like most progressive bills is stalled. “If we believe in a vibrant democracy, we need to have the highest voter turnout in the world,” Sanders said last year, after Vermont joined the shortlist of AVR states. “Enough with cowardly politicians protecting themselves by suppressing the vote.” Illinois is just the second state where Republican leadership has signed off on AVR; the first was Georgia, where in just four months of AVR, close to 600,000 people registered to vote. Oregon’s law, which went into effect last year, is seen by progressives as the model. It’s “opt-in,” meaning anyone who interacts with the state’s Department of Motor Vehicles is registered, unless he or she asks not to be. And it was promoted by Gov. Kate Brown (D-Ore.), a former secretary of state who rose to the governor’s office when her predecessor resigned due to scandal, and who previously championed the state’s vote-by-mail program. In 2016, Oregon’s voter turnout rose by 4.1 percent, higher than any other state. “I think we should be fighting like hell to make sure that we make voting more accessible to more Americans,” Brown said in an interview with the Post earlier this year, after she appeared at the semiannual Democracy Alliance donor conference. “We’re literally using the data from the DMV and handing it to the secretary of state’s office to register voters.” The increased turnout did not lead to Democratic victories up and down the ballot; Oregon Democrats actually lost ground in the state legislature, and lost control of Brown’s old office. But a study by Demos, a progressive think tank which supports AVR, found that the population of voters who came onto the rolls automatically was less white than the population registered under the opt-in system. That could matter greatly in Illinois, a onetime swing state that now votes strongly Democratic in presidential elections, but sees turnout fall drastically in midterms. In 2014, Rauner won his gubernatorial race with just 1,823,627 votes. Two years later, Donald Trump won 2,146,015 votes in Illinois’s presidential race, good enough only to lose to Hillary Clinton, in her home state, by a 17-point landslide.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 08/29/17 11:50:17 AM #2:	nice too bad it's all in blue states where the impact is less meaningful edit -- huh, WV and GA are on there too. My bad! --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:885654684] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>nice too bad it's all in blue states where the impact is less meaningful edit -- huh, WV and GA are on there too. My bad!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/29/17 11:51:00 AM #3:	Balrog0 posted... nice too bad it's all in blue states where the impact is less meaningful Also happened in Georgia --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:885654721] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>nice too bad it's all in blue states where the impact is less meaningful</quote> Also happened in Georgia</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
--kresnik-- 08/29/17 11:51:38 AM #4:	Lemme guess -- it votes for them, too? --- "I don't get mad. I am better than you. All members of antifa are better humans than you." - YourAlt <cite>--kresnik-- posted [p:885654745] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>Lemme guess -- it votes for them, too?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 08/29/17 11:51:41 AM #5:	Antifar posted... Balrog0 posted... nice too bad it's all in blue states where the impact is less meaningful Also happened in Georgia and AK and NH are pretty useful places strategically, too the map actually isn't that bad --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:885654747] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>nice too bad it's all in blue states where the impact is less meaningful</quote> Also happened in Georgia</quote> and AK and NH are pretty useful places strategically, too the map actually isn't that bad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
davyheinz 08/29/17 11:56:25 AM #6:	Good. We should be doing more of this. Get people who are citizens in a position to vote. --- Currently playing: Breath of the Wild, Xenoblade Chronicles, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Super Metroid, Metroid: Other M, F-Zero GX <cite>davyheinz posted [p:885654992] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>Good. We should be doing more of this. Get people who are citizens in a position to vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 08/29/17 11:57:08 AM #7:	davyheinz posted... Currently playing: Xenoblade Chronicles You have good taste. Where you at? --- Not changing this sig until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:885655029] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>davyheinz posted...</cite> <quote>Currently playing: Xenoblade Chronicles</quote> You have good taste. Where you at?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/29/17 11:57:50 AM #8:	--kresnik-- posted... Lemme guess -- it votes for them, too? buzzer sound Sorry, that's incorrect. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:885655066] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>--kresnik-- posted...</cite> <quote>Lemme guess -- it votes for them, too?</quote> buzzer sound Sorry, that's incorrect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
davyheinz 08/29/17 2:15:16 PM #9:	Muffinz0rz posted... davyheinz posted... Currently playing: Xenoblade Chronicles You have good taste. Where you at? I just reached Frontier Village. I have been doing a lot of quests and taking my time. --- Currently playing: Breath of the Wild, Xenoblade Chronicles, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Super Metroid, Metroid: Other M, F-Zero GX <cite>davyheinz posted [p:885663149] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>davyheinz posted...</cite> <quote>Currently playing: Xenoblade Chronicles</quote> You have good taste. Where you at?</quote> I just reached Frontier Village. I have been doing a lot of quests and taking my time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/29/17 2:16:25 PM #10:	This is a good thing. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:885663231] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>This is a good thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OrtegaTron 08/29/17 2:21:08 PM #11:	Rauner doing his best to get Dems to vote for his rino ass. --- The red flag is false hope <cite>OrtegaTron posted [p:885663547] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>Rauner doing his best to get Dems to vote for his rino ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToonLinkWithGun 08/29/17 2:23:47 PM #12:	Doesn't matter. Won't vote Democrat or Republican ever --- Wombo Combo! http://i.imgur.com/fToefC5.jpg <cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted [p:885663703] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>Doesn't matter. Won't vote Democrat or Republican ever</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 08/29/17 2:24:28 PM #13:	Since it's linked to the DMV you should have to provide ID when you vote. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:885663740] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>Since it's linked to the DMV you should have to provide ID when you vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/29/17 2:25:00 PM #14:	I love the concept, although I don't entirely agree with their logic: Democrats see it as a way to increase their margins with voters likely to agree with them, but unlikely to take time to register. Honestly, I don't know that people too lazy to register are suddenly going to go the extra mile and adjust their work or transit schedule to go somewhere to vote. It seems like this removes A hurdle, but not the biggest one of all (voter apathy). Also interesting was this part: The increased turnout did not lead to Democratic victories up and down the ballot; Oregon Democrats actually lost ground in the state legislature, and lost control of Brown’s old office. But a study by Demos, a progressive think tank which supports AVR, found that the population of voters who came onto the rolls automatically was less white than the population registered under the opt-in system. This kind of plays counter to the narrative that all dems need to do to win is get more minorities to vote and could backfire if they're using this as justification to double down on their "we don't need white people anymore" strategy. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:885663780] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>I love the concept, although I don't entirely agree with their logic: <quote>Democrats see it as a way to increase their margins with voters likely to agree with them, but unlikely to take time to register.</quote> Honestly, I don't know that people too lazy to register are suddenly going to go the extra mile and adjust their work or transit schedule to go somewhere to vote. It seems like this removes A hurdle, but not the biggest one of all (voter apathy). Also interesting was this part: <quote>The increased turnout did not lead to Democratic victories up and down the ballot; Oregon Democrats actually lost ground in the state legislature, and lost control of Brown’s old office. But a study by Demos, a progressive think tank which supports AVR, found that the population of voters who came onto the rolls automatically was less white than the population registered under the opt-in system.</quote> This kind of plays counter to the narrative that all dems need to do to win is get more minorities to vote and could backfire if they're using this as justification to double down on their "we don't need white people anymore" strategy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 08/29/17 2:25:01 PM #15:	You shouldn't even have to register. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:885663782] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>You shouldn't even have to register.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OrtegaTron 08/29/17 2:25:16 PM #16:	ToonLinkWithGun posted... Doesn't matter. Won't vote Democrat or Republican ever @ToonLinkWithGun you live in IL? --- The red flag is false hope <cite>OrtegaTron posted [p:885663799] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted...</cite> <quote>Doesn't matter. Won't vote Democrat or Republican ever</quote> @ToonLinkWithGun you live in IL?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 08/29/17 2:27:48 PM #17:	Deadpool_18 posted... You shouldn't even have to register. Fucking this guy. SMH. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:885663963] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>You shouldn't even have to register.</quote> Fucking this guy. SMH.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 08/29/17 2:32:28 PM #18:	Now to make voting day a national holiday or move it to the weekend --- http://i.imgur.com/fQ2zSjD.gif https://i.imgur.com/rUkYNB9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wDVZCkd.gif https://i.imgur.com/VX0lMwY.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:885664246] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>Now to make voting day a national holiday or move it to the weekend</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 08/29/17 2:33:23 PM #19:	HypnoCoosh posted... Deadpool_18 posted... You shouldn't even have to register. Fucking this guy. SMH. Why do you think he's wrong? <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:885664307] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>You shouldn't even have to register.</quote> Fucking this guy. SMH.</quote> Why do you think he's wrong?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/29/17 2:35:23 PM #20:	HypnoCoosh posted... Since it's linked to the DMV you should have to provide ID when you vote. Those should be given out automatically as well. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:885664409] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote>Since it's linked to the DMV you should have to provide ID when you vote.</quote> Those should be given out automatically as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 08/29/17 2:35:25 PM #21:	Deadpool_18 posted... You shouldn't even have to register. This. If you have a valid SSN and you are 18 or over, you should be able to show up and vote. having to fill out paperwork to get basic democratic rights is bullshit. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:885664412] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>You shouldn't even have to register.</quote> This. If you have a valid SSN and you are 18 or over, you should be able to show up and vote. having to fill out paperwork to get basic democratic rights is bullshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 08/29/17 2:35:38 PM #22:	TheVipaGTS posted... HypnoCoosh posted... Deadpool_18 posted... You shouldn't even have to register. Fucking this guy. SMH. Why do you think he's wrong? Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:885664423] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>You shouldn't even have to register.</quote> Fucking this guy. SMH.</quote> Why do you think he's wrong?</quote> Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/29/17 2:37:21 PM #23:	HypnoCoosh posted... TheVipaGTS posted... HypnoCoosh posted... Deadpool_18 posted... You shouldn't even have to register. Fucking this guy. SMH. Why do you think he's wrong? Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote Uh he said people shouldn't need to register, not that they don't need to register. And Illinois is now the 10th state where you actually don't need to register. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:885664528] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>You shouldn't even have to register.</quote> Fucking this guy. SMH.</quote> Why do you think he's wrong?</quote> Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote</quote> Uh he said people shouldn't need to register, not that they don't need to register. And Illinois is now the 10th state where you actually don't need to register.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 08/29/17 2:37:57 PM #24:	CADE FOSTER posted... Now to make voting day a national holiday or move it to the weekend --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:885664558] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote>Now to make voting day a national holiday or move it to the weekend</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 08/29/17 2:38:33 PM #25:	CADE FOSTER posted... Now to make voting day a national holiday or move it to the weekend All of the above. Allow 4 weeks of early/absentee voting, open the polls on Saturday through Tuesdays. Make Tuesday a federal holiday. Give free(up to 1 per year) govt. IDs. Require an ID (govt, school, CCW, hunting, etc) to vote. Then make voter fraud a capital crime. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:885664585] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote>Now to make voting day a national holiday or move it to the weekend</quote> All of the above. Allow 4 weeks of early/absentee voting, open the polls on Saturday through Tuesdays. Make Tuesday a federal holiday. Give free(up to 1 per year) govt. IDs. Require an ID (govt, school, CCW, hunting, etc) to vote. Then make voter fraud a capital crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OrtegaTron 08/29/17 2:38:37 PM #26:	hockeybub89 posted... HypnoCoosh posted... TheVipaGTS posted... HypnoCoosh posted... Deadpool_18 posted... You shouldn't even have to register. Fucking this guy. SMH. Why do you think he's wrong? Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote Uh he said people shouldn't need to register, not that they don't need to register. And Illinois is now the 10th state where you actually don't need to register. You still need a dl or state ID, though. --- The red flag is false hope <cite>OrtegaTron posted [p:885664587] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>You shouldn't even have to register.</quote> Fucking this guy. SMH.</quote> Why do you think he's wrong?</quote> Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote</quote> Uh he said people shouldn't need to register, not that they don't need to register. And Illinois is now the 10th state where you actually don't need to register.</quote> You still need a dl or state ID, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 08/29/17 2:38:59 PM #27:	hockeybub89 posted... Illinois is now the 10th state where you actually don't need to register. Um you might want to fact check yourself brah. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:885664609] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> Illinois is now the 10th state where you actually don't need to register.</quote> Um you might want to fact check yourself brah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 08/29/17 2:40:07 PM #28:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... CADE FOSTER posted... Now to make voting day a national holiday or move it to the weekend All of the above. Allow 4 weeks of early/absentee voting, open the polls on Saturday through Tuesdays. Make Tuesday a federal holiday. Give free(up to 1 per year) govt. IDs. Require an ID (govt, school, CCW, hunting, etc) to vote. Then make voter fraud a capital crime. Might as well ad a test to make sure people know wtf they are doing while you're at it. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:885664676] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote>Now to make voting day a national holiday or move it to the weekend</quote> All of the above. Allow 4 weeks of early/absentee voting, open the polls on Saturday through Tuesdays. Make Tuesday a federal holiday. Give free(up to 1 per year) govt. IDs. Require an ID (govt, school, CCW, hunting, etc) to vote. Then make voter fraud a capital crime.</quote> Might as well ad a test to make sure people know wtf they are doing while you're at it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 08/29/17 2:40:25 PM #29:	HypnoCoosh posted... TheVipaGTS posted... HypnoCoosh posted... Deadpool_18 posted... You shouldn't even have to register. Fucking this guy. SMH. Why do you think he's wrong? Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote Can you read? He said people shouldn't have to. I'm asking you why it's absurd to think that we shouldn't have to? He didn't say we don't have to right now. He said we shouldn't have to. <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:885664692] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>You shouldn't even have to register.</quote> Fucking this guy. SMH.</quote> Why do you think he's wrong?</quote> Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote</quote> Can you read? He said people shouldn't have to. I'm asking you why it's absurd to think that we shouldn't have to? He didn't say we don't have to right now. He said we shouldn't have to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/29/17 2:41:23 PM #30:	HypnoCoosh posted... TheVipaGTS posted... HypnoCoosh posted... Deadpool_18 posted... You shouldn't even have to register. Fucking this guy. SMH. Why do you think he's wrong? Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote That page gives no good argument why registration should be necessary. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:885664735] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>You shouldn't even have to register.</quote> Fucking this guy. SMH.</quote> Why do you think he's wrong?</quote> Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote</quote> That page gives no good argument why registration should be necessary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/29/17 2:42:12 PM #31:	HypnoCoosh posted... hockeybub89 posted... Illinois is now the 10th state where you actually don't need to register. Um you might want to fact check yourself brah. What? They are automatically registered. They don't need to do shit. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:885664780] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> Illinois is now the 10th state where you actually don't need to register.</quote> Um you might want to fact check yourself brah.</quote> What? They are automatically registered. They don't need to do shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 08/29/17 2:42:17 PM #32:	TheVipaGTS posted... HypnoCoosh posted... TheVipaGTS posted... HypnoCoosh posted... Deadpool_18 posted... You shouldn't even have to register. Fucking this guy. SMH. Why do you think he's wrong? Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote Can you read? He said people shouldn't have to. I'm asking you why it's absurd to think that we shouldn't have to? He didn't say we don't have to right now. He said we shouldn't have to. If you took the time to think about it you would realize there are reasons we register to vote. Instead you just keep making visceral shit posts. Also why I posted the link the reasons are there if you took the time to look instead of trying to build your case based on bs ideologies. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:885664788] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>You shouldn't even have to register.</quote> Fucking this guy. SMH.</quote> Why do you think he's wrong?</quote> Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote</quote> Can you read? He said people shouldn't have to. I'm asking you why it's absurd to think that we shouldn't have to? He didn't say we don't have to right now. He said we shouldn't have to.</quote> If you took the time to think about it you would realize there are reasons we register to vote. Instead you just keep making visceral shit posts. Also why I posted the link the reasons are there if you took the time to look instead of trying to build your case based on bs ideologies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 08/29/17 2:42:21 PM #33:	Also allow for online voting or using a smartphone to vote man we have such shitty archaic voting methods voting turnout would be so high if we made good changes --- http://i.imgur.com/fQ2zSjD.gif https://i.imgur.com/rUkYNB9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wDVZCkd.gif https://i.imgur.com/VX0lMwY.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:885664794] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>Also allow for online voting or using a smartphone to vote man we have such shitty archaic voting methods voting turnout would be so high if we made good changes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 08/29/17 2:44:19 PM #34:	HypnoCoosh posted... If you took the time to think about it you would realize there are reasons we register to vote. And if you had an argument you could list these reasons without having to be called out on it constantly. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:885664901] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote>If you took the time to think about it you would realize there are reasons we register to vote.</quote> And if you had an argument you could list these reasons without having to be called out on it constantly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/29/17 2:45:30 PM #35:	HypnoCoosh posted... TheVipaGTS posted... HypnoCoosh posted... TheVipaGTS posted... HypnoCoosh posted... Deadpool_18 posted... You shouldn't even have to register. Fucking this guy. SMH. Why do you think he's wrong? Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote Can you read? He said people shouldn't have to. I'm asking you why it's absurd to think that we shouldn't have to? He didn't say we don't have to right now. He said we shouldn't have to. If you took the time to think about it you would realize there are reasons we register to vote. Instead you just keep making visceral shit posts. We could just automatically register the entire country the moment they turn 18. There is no good reason to force everyone to go through a pointless process to obtain such a basic right. We should also automatically give everyone IDs for free since they are also so crucial to life. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:885664982] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>You shouldn't even have to register.</quote> Fucking this guy. SMH.</quote> Why do you think he's wrong?</quote> Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote</quote> Can you read? He said people shouldn't have to. I'm asking you why it's absurd to think that we shouldn't have to? He didn't say we don't have to right now. He said we shouldn't have to.</quote> If you took the time to think about it you would realize there are reasons we register to vote. Instead you just keep making visceral shit posts.</quote> We could just automatically register the entire country the moment they turn 18. There is no good reason to force everyone to go through a pointless process to obtain such a basic right. We should also automatically give everyone IDs for free since they are also so crucial to life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 08/29/17 2:46:39 PM #36:	BLAKUboy posted... HypnoCoosh posted... If you took the time to think about it you would realize there are reasons we register to vote. And if you had an argument you could list these reasons without having to be called out on it constantly. You're not calling me out. I posted the .gov website for voting registration. If you actually took the time to look at it you would understand why we register to vote. If you can't take the time to educate yourself I'm not debating with you because it's a waste of breathe. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:885665047] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote>If you took the time to think about it you would realize there are reasons we register to vote.</quote> And if you had an argument you could list these reasons without having to be called out on it constantly.</quote> You're not calling me out. I posted the .gov website for voting registration. If you actually took the time to look at it you would understand why we register to vote. If you can't take the time to educate yourself I'm not debating with you because it's a waste of breathe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 08/29/17 2:47:00 PM #37:	HypnoCoosh posted... TheVipaGTS posted... HypnoCoosh posted... TheVipaGTS posted... HypnoCoosh posted... Deadpool_18 posted... You shouldn't even have to register. Fucking this guy. SMH. Why do you think he's wrong? Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote Can you read? He said people shouldn't have to. I'm asking you why it's absurd to think that we shouldn't have to? He didn't say we don't have to right now. He said we shouldn't have to. If you took the time to think about it you would realize there are reasons we register to vote. Instead you just keep making visceral shit posts. Also why I posted the link the reasons are there if you took the time to look instead of trying to build your case based on bs ideologies. So name a reason. No idea why you're dragging this out.. <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:885665070] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>You shouldn't even have to register.</quote> Fucking this guy. SMH.</quote> Why do you think he's wrong?</quote> Wtf kind of question is that? How is he not wrong? Maybe brush up on our laws and come back before you waste my time with this nonsense. https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote</quote> Can you read? He said people shouldn't have to. I'm asking you why it's absurd to think that we shouldn't have to? He didn't say we don't have to right now. He said we shouldn't have to.</quote> If you took the time to think about it you would realize there are reasons we register to vote. Instead you just keep making visceral shit posts. Also why I posted the link the reasons are there if you took the time to look instead of trying to build your case based on bs ideologies.</quote> So name a reason. No idea why you're dragging this out..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 08/29/17 2:47:25 PM #38:	CADE FOSTER posted... Now to make voting day a national holiday or move it to the weekend Most of the people who can't get the time off to vote aren't working jobs that close for holidays anyway. I'm all for an extra day off, but you need to fix worker rights first. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:885665093] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote>Now to make voting day a national holiday or move it to the weekend</quote> Most of the people who can't get the time off to vote aren't working jobs that close for holidays anyway. I'm all for an extra day off, but you need to fix worker rights first.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 08/29/17 2:47:28 PM #39:	Everyone should be auto registered to vote and to donate organs you should have to opt out if you dont want to --- http://i.imgur.com/fQ2zSjD.gif https://i.imgur.com/rUkYNB9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wDVZCkd.gif https://i.imgur.com/VX0lMwY.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:885665100] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>Everyone should be auto registered to vote and to donate organs you should have to opt out if you dont want to</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/29/17 2:49:03 PM #40:	Gillette can mail me a razor at my 18th birthday with no issues but the government can't mail me voter registration information. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:885665192] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>Gillette can mail me a razor at my 18th birthday with no issues but the government can't mail me voter registration information.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/29/17 2:50:17 PM #41:	There are tons of countries that don't require their voters to register and they have elections just fine. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:885665269] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>There are tons of countries that don't require their voters to register and they have elections just fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToonLinkWithGun 08/29/17 2:50:20 PM #42:	OrtegaTron posted... ToonLinkWithGun posted... Doesn't matter. Won't vote Democrat or Republican ever @ToonLinkWithGun you live in IL? Pfft no Illinois sucks --- Wombo Combo! http://i.imgur.com/fToefC5.jpg <cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted [p:885665271] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>OrtegaTron posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted...</cite> <quote>Doesn't matter. Won't vote Democrat or Republican ever</quote> @ToonLinkWithGun you live in IL?</quote> Pfft no Illinois sucks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 08/29/17 2:51:35 PM #43:	A_Good_Boy posted... Gillette can mail me a razor at my 18th birthday with no issues but the government can't mail me voter registration information. Pretty sure that's the whole point of the OP. do you troglodytes even read before diarrheaing all over the keyboard? --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:885665338] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>Gillette can mail me a razor at my 18th birthday with no issues but the government can't mail me voter registration information.</quote> Pretty sure that's the whole point of the OP. do you troglodytes even read before diarrheaing all over the keyboard?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 08/29/17 2:53:56 PM #44:	HypnoCoosh posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Gillette can mail me a razor at my 18th birthday with no issues but the government can't mail me voter registration information. Pretty sure that's the whole point of the OP. do you troglodytes even read before diarrheaing all over the keyboard? Still waiting for you to name a legitimate reason and not post a link. You obviously feel very strongly about this. Back your claim up in your own words. Let's hear it. <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:885665492] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>Gillette can mail me a razor at my 18th birthday with no issues but the government can't mail me voter registration information.</quote> Pretty sure that's the whole point of the OP. do you troglodytes even read before diarrheaing all over the keyboard?</quote> Still waiting for you to name a legitimate reason and not post a link. You obviously feel very strongly about this. Back your claim up in your own words. Let's hear it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/29/17 2:54:02 PM #45:	HypnoCoosh posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Gillette can mail me a razor at my 18th birthday with no issues but the government can't mail me voter registration information. Pretty sure that's the whole point of the OP. do you troglodytes even read before diarrheaing all over the keyboard? You gonna post those reasons yet --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:885665496] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> Gillette can mail me a razor at my 18th birthday with no issues but the government can't mail me voter registration information.</quote> Pretty sure that's the whole point of the OP. do you troglodytes even read before diarrheaing all over the keyboard?</quote> You gonna post those reasons yet</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 08/29/17 3:10:51 PM #46:	It's funny how more democracy is a victory for democrats and less democracy is a victory for republicans I mean seriously. Republicans always do everything they can to make it as hard as possible to vote --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:885666348] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>It's funny how more democracy is a victory for democrats and less democracy is a victory for republicans I mean seriously. Republicans always do everything they can to make it as hard as possible to vote</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/29/17 3:12:27 PM #47:	frozenshock posted... It's funny how more democracy is a victory for democrats and less democracy is a victory for republicans I mean seriously. Republicans always do everything they can to make it as hard as possible to vote The article linked literally states that "more democracy" in the state actually resulted in MORE losses for democrats. Here's the quote: The increased turnout did not lead to Democratic victories up and down the ballot; Oregon Democrats actually lost ground in the state legislature, and lost control of Brown’s old office. But a study by Demos, a progressive think tank which supports AVR, found that the population of voters who came onto the rolls automatically was less white than the population registered under the opt-in system. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:885666428] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny how more democracy is a victory for democrats and less democracy is a victory for republicans I mean seriously. Republicans always do everything they can to make it as hard as possible to vote</quote> The article linked literally states that "more democracy" in the state actually resulted in MORE losses for democrats. Here's the quote: <quote>The increased turnout did not lead to Democratic victories up and down the ballot; Oregon Democrats actually lost ground in the state legislature, and lost control of Brown’s old office. But a study by Demos, a progressive think tank which supports AVR, found that the population of voters who came onto the rolls automatically was less white than the population registered under the opt-in system.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
davyheinz 08/29/17 3:23:21 PM #48:	s0nicfan posted... frozenshock posted... It's funny how more democracy is a victory for democrats and less democracy is a victory for republicans I mean seriously. Republicans always do everything they can to make it as hard as possible to vote The article linked literally states that "more democracy" in the state actually resulted in MORE losses for democrats. Here's the quote: The increased turnout did not lead to Democratic victories up and down the ballot; Oregon Democrats actually lost ground in the state legislature, and lost control of Brown’s old office. But a study by Demos, a progressive think tank which supports AVR, found that the population of voters who came onto the rolls automatically was less white than the population registered under the opt-in system. Yeah, but that's not the point of the system. It's assumed that the measure would help Dems, but if more votes go the other way then it's not like there is a problem. People should vote regardless of party, but if only one party is fighting for/against disenfranchisement then that's how it is. --- Currently playing: Breath of the Wild, Xenoblade Chronicles, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Super Metroid, Metroid: Other M, F-Zero GX <cite>davyheinz posted [p:885667040] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny how more democracy is a victory for democrats and less democracy is a victory for republicans I mean seriously. Republicans always do everything they can to make it as hard as possible to vote</quote> The article linked literally states that "more democracy" in the state actually resulted in MORE losses for democrats. Here's the quote: <quote>The increased turnout did not lead to Democratic victories up and down the ballot; Oregon Democrats actually lost ground in the state legislature, and lost control of Brown’s old office. But a study by Demos, a progressive think tank which supports AVR, found that the population of voters who came onto the rolls automatically was less white than the population registered under the opt-in system.</quote></quote> Yeah, but that's not the point of the system. It's assumed that the measure would help Dems, but if more votes go the other way then it's not like there is a problem. People should vote regardless of party, but if only one party is fighting for/against disenfranchisement then that's how it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 08/29/17 3:27:22 PM #49:	Well they can keep their Democrats, Ghettos and War Zones. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:885667264] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote>Well they can keep their Democrats, Ghettos and War Zones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 08/29/17 3:32:30 PM #50:	CADE FOSTER posted... Also allow for online voting or using a smartphone to vote man we have such shitty archaic voting methods voting turnout would be so high if we made good changes Online voting or an app would be far easier to hack than a paper ballot. A lot of areas could simply use more places where people can vote so people don't have to travel far to vote. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:885667536] in Illinois b... [t:75720191]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote>Also allow for online voting or using a smartphone to vote man we have such shitty archaic voting methods voting turnout would be so high if we made good changes</quote> Online voting or an app would be far easier to hack than a paper ballot. A lot of areas could simply use more places where people can vote so people don't have to travel far to vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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