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DawkinsNumber4 08/30/17 8:21:49 AM #1: |
If so, how would we look for/recognize any glitch?
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ssj3vegeta_ 08/30/17 8:22:25 AM #2: |
Mandela affect
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KiwiTerraRizing 08/30/17 8:23:31 AM #3: |
Vegy is clearly a glitch
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Spidey5 08/30/17 8:24:21 AM #4: |
A glitch uses skull bash excessively.
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DevsBro 08/30/17 8:27:12 AM #5: |
How else do you explain Bigfoot, that floating city above China and UFO sightings?
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DawkinsNumber4 08/30/17 8:28:02 AM #6: |
DevsBro posted...
How else do you explain Bigfoot, that floating city above China and UFO sightings? Dumbass conspiracy theorists and/or schizophrenics? --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aristoph 08/30/17 8:29:12 AM #7: |
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
DevsBro posted...How else do you explain Bigfoot, that floating city above China and UFO sightings? You're an expert on those, so I'm sold. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BolognaSammich 08/30/17 8:30:05 AM #8: |
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IfGodCouldDie 08/30/17 8:30:35 AM #9: |
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
DevsBro posted...How else do you explain Bigfoot, that floating city above China and UFO sightings? You mean people that have broke out of the system? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eevee-Trainer 08/30/17 8:31:22 AM #10: |
We would recognize any glitch as part of our everyday, because this is the world we've come to know - in the simulation, what the programmers would call a glitch, we only experience as an ordinary event in the world that we simply lack an explanation for. Quantum mechanical weirdness could be roundoff errors accumulating at small scale sizes, black holes could be bad sectors of disk data, who knows, but we'd come up with an explanation regardless and leave it at that.
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Funkydog 08/30/17 8:32:17 AM #11: |
Could say genetic diseases are "glitches", or people who hallucinate/see things etc is just the system glitching out.
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Milkman5 08/30/17 8:34:07 AM #12: |
Eevee-Trainer posted...
We would recognize any glitch as part of our everyday, because this is the world we've come to know - in the simulation, what the programmers would call a glitch, we only experience as an ordinary event in the world that we simply lack an explanation for. Quantum mechanical weirdness could be roundoff errors accumulating at small scale sizes, black holes could be bad sectors of disk data, who knows, but we'd come up with an explanation regardless and leave it at that. This. A glitch is something that is not supposed to happen, but how would we know what is supposed to happen when this is the only thing we know ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DawkinsNumber4 08/30/17 8:37:27 AM #13: |
Funkydog posted...
Could say genetic diseases are "glitches", or people who hallucinate/see things etc is just the system glitching out. "Could say genetic diseases are "glitches", or people who hallucinate/see things etc is just the system glitching out." Those are not glitches. Evolution would not be true without those type of things happening. as part of evolving involves implied imperfection of the evolving organisms. I have a hunch about schizophrenia. I believe it is very possible that religion created schizophrenia but not by being religion but rather the cruel tyrants throughout history who would harm those who did not believe. This would then indicate survival requires belief in the supernatural so then one would assume that it would be beneficial with regards to evolution if the brain allowed people to easier succumb to such delusional thoughts as if they are normal. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board ... Copied to Clipboard!
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literal_garbage 08/30/17 8:39:54 AM #14: |
That's... not how any of that works
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Aristoph 08/30/17 8:40:06 AM #15: |
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Those are not glitches. Evolution would not be true without those type of things happening. If this is a simulation, then evolution is not true as we understand it. So they certainly could be glitches. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DawkinsNumber4 08/30/17 8:40:09 AM #16: |
Milkman5 posted...
Eevee-Trainer posted...We would recognize any glitch as part of our everyday, because this is the world we've come to know - in the simulation, what the programmers would call a glitch, we only experience as an ordinary event in the world that we simply lack an explanation for. Quantum mechanical weirdness could be roundoff errors accumulating at small scale sizes, black holes could be bad sectors of disk data, who knows, but we'd come up with an explanation regardless and leave it at that. Because we know what we see on a normal basis. Yes, I guess black holes could be bad sectors, though I would like to know why some think quantum mechanics could be round up errors. I've never heard that before. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DawkinsNumber4 08/30/17 8:42:48 AM #18: |
GregShmedley posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...Funkydog posted...Could say genetic diseases are "glitches", or people who hallucinate/see things etc is just the system glitching out. It is not baseless. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4107833/ "Did Christianity lead to schizophrenia? Psychosis, psychology and self reference" My theory doesn't even blame the Christians specifically...and is more specific as to why it would happen. I did not say it's true but it would explain a lot. "The central issue in all of this seems to be the emphasis on a continued scrutiny of personal actions and inclinations amidst a multitude of alternatives, and on the downplaying of the everyday physical world, and on the problematisation of agency: in all, a new self awareness and self reference, a shifting of the centre of gravity of consciousness into the individual human being. Many habitual aspects of ourselves, and these we can presume are already enhanced in proto-schizophreni in proto-schizophrenianour bodily functioning, chance thoughts, sensations, impulses, and memories can be attributed to some source external to the experiencing self (to physiology, memory, dreams, genes, passions, habits). We cannot however now attribute agency to them. As agency is withdrawn from the natural world, from others, from animals, plants, stars, and spirits, our individual agency appears enhanced uneasy balance between the is it me? and the is it something external? Many external causes, spirits, and stars, not only no longer have agency but are no longer validated by our society, so any personal explanations of an external locus of control become increasingly idiosyncratic and divorced from our common social life (Tausk, 1919/1948).18 If the passage from proto-schizophrenia to schizophrenia is thus perhaps intelligible in social terms, does this offer any clues to the nature of proto-schizophrenia itself? If the attribution of agency is a general human characteristic, and is integral to both religion and psychosis (Dein & Littlewood, 2011), then this might suggest that both the proto-symptoms and their transformation into schizophrenia are concerned with this attribution, the transformation being related to the indigenous psychology we have considered here. This type of estrangement from experience (later reinforced by a number of secular and religious developments)19 fits well with Sass criteria for the reflexive self-consciousness that has perhaps propelled us into schizophrenia." --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomSwell 08/30/17 8:46:39 AM #19: |
According to the laws of physics or aerodynamics; Bees shouldn't be able to fly.
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DawkinsNumber4 08/30/17 8:49:44 AM #20: |
DoomSwell posted...
Bees shouldn't be able to fly. http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/08/bumblebee-flight-does-not-violate-the-laws-of-physics/ --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 08/30/17 8:50:27 AM #21: |
Aristoph posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...Those are not glitches. Evolution would not be true without those type of things happening. Exactly. If it was coded properly, then surely shouldn't be "downsides" or "malfunctions" to it? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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luigi13579 08/30/17 8:51:04 AM #22: |
Humans developing the level of intelligence they now have was one big glitch.
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DawkinsNumber4 08/30/17 8:53:30 AM #23: |
Funkydog posted...
Aristoph posted...DawkinsNumber4 posted...Those are not glitches. Evolution would not be true without those type of things happening. Those aren't downsides. That's the first mistake you are making in thought. You find them as downsides because they are not beneficial to you but part of finding the good is having the bad exist to adapt to solve that problem to begin with. If something isn't a problem you cannot adapt to deal with it because it doesn't exist. Why would we evolve if everything was perfect? How even? We couldn't. So the imperfection is not only implied for progress to happen through evolution, it is required for evolution to be true. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DawkinsNumber4 08/30/17 8:54:04 AM #24: |
luigi13579 posted...
Humans developing the level of intelligence they now have was one big glitch. We aren't as intelligent as we give ourselves credit for. We are still quite primitive. The herd mentality is the most telling example of this. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BestInTheWorId 08/30/17 8:54:38 AM #25: |
We ARE living in a simulation. The fact that there's rules to physics and a limit to the speed of light alone proves it imo.
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DawkinsNumber4 08/30/17 8:56:22 AM #26: |
BestInTheWorId posted...
We ARE living in a simulation. The fact that there's rules to physics and a limit to the speed of light alone proves it imo. The rules of physics change on the atomic scale though (quantum mechanics). We can only observe like 1% of the universe or something ridiculously low like that. How do we know that there is not a grander scale in which once again the laws differ a bit? --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 08/30/17 9:00:14 AM #27: |
According to the laws of physics or aerodynamics; Bees shouldn't be able to fly. Was there some famous dumbass who stated the observation this way or something? Everyone keeps saying this as if our models dictate reality instead of the other way around. It's a phenomenon we were unaware of until we observed bees closely. Bees don't break reality or anytjng stupid like that. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mernardi 08/30/17 9:01:56 AM #28: |
Donald winning the election was a glitch.
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BestInTheWorId 08/30/17 9:21:05 AM #29: |
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
BestInTheWorId posted...We ARE living in a simulation. The fact that there's rules to physics and a limit to the speed of light alone proves it imo. According to quantum mechanics, death is an illusion right? --- Rapper inspired by video games http://youtube.com/youtuvesucks/ join me on my journey to the top! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DawkinsNumber4 08/30/17 9:25:51 AM #30: |
BestInTheWorId posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...BestInTheWorId posted...We ARE living in a simulation. The fact that there's rules to physics and a limit to the speed of light alone proves it imo. I am not sure how the two relate. Could you elaborate? --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BestInTheWorId 08/30/17 9:33:14 AM #31: |
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
BestInTheWorId posted...DawkinsNumber4 posted...BestInTheWorId posted...We ARE living in a simulation. The fact that there's rules to physics and a limit to the speed of light alone proves it imo. Look up quantum immortality, I'm not 100% sure if the 2 relate. It has to do with the multiverse theory. --- Rapper inspired by video games http://youtube.com/youtuvesucks/ join me on my journey to the top! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZeroX91 08/30/17 9:39:33 AM #32: |
If we are a simulation we would never be aware of it unless we are fully self aware ai, which no rational programer would ever make if there was even the slimmest chance that it could ever interact with something outside the simulation..so for all intents and purposes its a pointless thought experiment experiment.
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The Admiral 08/30/17 9:41:49 AM #33: |
Sometimes glitches cause people to have a surreal feeling, resulting in them doing bizarre things like smashing their head into a police car repeatedly.
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BestInTheWorId 08/30/17 9:57:21 AM #34: |
Stuff like Schizophrenia, psychosis make you feel like your in the matrix
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gunplagirl 08/30/17 9:59:28 AM #35: |
Much like the terrible AI of Bethesda games, we would not even notice anything is so alarming as a glitch
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DawkinsNumber4 08/30/17 10:02:28 AM #36: |
gunplagirl posted...
Much like the terrible AI of Bethesda games, we would not even notice anything is so alarming as a glitch --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prince_leo 08/30/17 11:30:24 AM #40: |
DevsBro posted...
Was there some famous dumbass who stated the observation this way or something? Everyone keeps saying this as if our models dictate reality instead of the other way around. it's like the first line in the Bee movie --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 08/30/17 11:35:39 AM #41: |
ZeroX91 posted...
its a pointless thought experiment experiment. The skeptic AI just had a glitch. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aristoph 08/30/17 12:05:43 PM #42: |
Conflict posted...
I'm amazed nobody itt called TC a glitch. I think everyone's just happy that for once he's not talking about how "the man" is screwing him over and he's "fighting for the rights of everyone" or whatever he claims that bullshit is. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CircleOfManias 08/30/17 12:08:16 PM #43: |
Yes, but we would simply accept these glitches as part of the laws of physics. Even if they're really strange like the dual slit experiment.
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ZeroX91 08/30/17 12:31:25 PM #44: |
Anteaterking posted...
ZeroX91 posted...its a pointless thought experiment experiment. Anteaterking posted... ZeroX91 posted...its a pointless thought experiment experiment. http://www.theransomnote.com/media/articles/aphex-twin-to-play-at-field-day-2017/c34852fd-b78d-4885-9175-72ce1244037d.jpg --- Put your grasses on... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DawkinsNumber4 08/30/17 9:06:50 PM #45: |
CircleOfManias posted...
Yes, but we would simply accept these glitches as part of the laws of physics. Even if they're really strange like the dual slit experiment. Why do you think wave-particle duality is a glitch rather than something working as intended? --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eevee-Trainer 08/30/17 9:20:47 PM #46: |
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
CircleOfManias posted...Yes, but we would simply accept these glitches as part of the laws of physics. Even if they're really strange like the dual slit experiment. He never asserted it was a glitch. Just that it's strange and unintuitive - which most of quantum mechanics is. --- Maybe I'll put something here one day. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CircleOfManias 08/30/17 10:31:27 PM #47: |
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
CircleOfManias posted...Yes, but we would simply accept these glitches as part of the laws of physics. Even if they're really strange like the dual slit experiment. I'm not saying it's a glitch. I'm saying glitches and quantum weirdness would be indistinguishable because we have no idea how it "should" work. --- Sick liaisons raise this monumental mark The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DawkinsNumber4 08/30/17 10:34:19 PM #48: |
CircleOfManias posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...CircleOfManias posted...Yes, but we would simply accept these glitches as part of the laws of physics. Even if they're really strange like the dual slit experiment. I mean we know what quantum mechanics does, we just don't quite know how. I don't find it likely it is a glitch or even a flaw as quantum mechanics is what seems to create probability in the universe. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board ... Copied to Clipboard!
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