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Sativa_Rose
09/01/17 2:10:00 AM
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Is it moral to bomb an entire restaurant because a terrorist might be there?


Say a terrorist, Ibrahim al-Banna, one of the leaders of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), a terrorist group that is mainly active in Yemen currently, is suspected to be at a restaurant (probably through cell phone data).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Muhammad_Salih_al-Banna

Should we bomb the entire restaurant via a predator drone? Kill everyone around? Is it worth it to go that far to kill someone like this? Or are we killing civilians so recklessly in the process that we may have become the terrorists ourselves?

This actually happened. We thought he was there, we bombed the restaurant. Turns out he wasn't there, and we killed a lot of innocent people in the process, including a 16 year old US citizen whose family moved to Yemen.
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chill02
09/01/17 2:12:11 AM
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use terrorism to counter terrorism
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Zikten
09/01/17 2:13:19 AM
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no because a new leader will just pop up. it won't really solve anything unless we can wipe out everyone in the organization. killing one person does nothing. Even if it was Bin Laden I wouldn't condone blowing up the restaurant. I mean you can see that killing him didn't accomplish much other than a sense of revenge
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teepan95
09/01/17 2:13:21 AM
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chill02 posted...
use terrorism to counter terrorism

what could go wrong?
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Krystalcyanide
09/01/17 2:14:25 AM
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No we did that in Vietnam with shooting up the villages and throwing grenades into people's huts to avoid booby traps and ambush attacks.
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Callixtus
09/01/17 2:19:37 AM
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CADE FOSTER
09/01/17 2:23:02 AM
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Back in the nineties clinton had a chance to kill bin laden but the collateral damage would have been high but 9/11 would have never happened
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
09/01/17 2:24:10 AM
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Voted no. I can see the argument for the greater good but I couldn't write off those lives even if it meant saving more.
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DreadedWave
09/01/17 2:26:57 AM
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Only if he's about to cause imminent death to a far greater number of people. Which clearly isn't the case here since he wasn't even present.
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Zikten
09/01/17 4:02:42 AM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
Back in the nineties clinton had a chance to kill bin laden but the collateral damage would have been high but 9/11 would have never happened

was Bin Laden the sole planner behind 9/11 though? I bet it still would have happened. or something similar. it's not like he was the only one who could make it happen
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awesome999
09/01/17 4:07:21 AM
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Zikten posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
Back in the nineties clinton had a chance to kill bin laden but the collateral damage would have been high but 9/11 would have never happened

was Bin Laden the sole planner behind 9/11 though? I bet it still would have happened. or something similar. it's not like he was the only one who could make it happen

Besides, how would Clinton know 9/11 was gonna happen?
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Rika_Furude
09/01/17 4:09:27 AM
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Will doing this save more lives?
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awesome999
09/01/17 4:11:58 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Will doing this save more lives?

You don't know, that's the point. If TC tells you that killing 50 civilians will save the lives of 500 civilians or 5 civilians, the choice becomes significantly easier
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Rika_Furude
09/01/17 4:13:18 AM
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In this case, no then. He might be a leader but his death wont just suddenly stop his group committing terrorism
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SpiralDrift
09/01/17 4:50:48 AM
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> Guy is planning to kill innocent people.
> Let's blow him up along with a room full of innocent people.

Yeah, it's not right. That's not to say that we shouldn't be aggressive in pursuing terrorists, we just shouldn't be so reckless that we become as bad as the terrorists themselves.
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KingCrabCake
09/01/17 4:54:00 AM
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All depends on context...

What rank does the terrorist have

How accurate is the information on his location

Whats the collateral damage

Is there any other option besides making something go boom
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fan357
09/01/17 4:55:50 AM
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Blowing up civilians makes more terrorists.
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Chicken
09/01/17 4:56:53 AM
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Obama would say so.
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hockeybub89
09/01/17 4:56:53 AM
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No, but it hasn't stopped us yet. And have we gotten closer to winning this war against bad ideas? Nope.
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Sativa_Rose
09/02/17 5:39:03 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
All depends on context...

What rank does the terrorist have

How accurate is the information on his location

Whats the collateral damage

Is there any other option besides making something go boom


We should go back to using silenced weapons.
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