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FLUFFYGERM 09/01/17 2:47:31 PM #51: |
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darkjedilink 09/01/17 2:59:08 PM #52: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
glitteringfairy posted...True communism would be fantastic but it's impossible to achieve with humans in charge of it. Not in the least. 'It takes a village...' is, however, and that's the antithesis of the nuclear family. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RPGaddict28 09/01/17 2:59:24 PM #53: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
@RPGaddict28 The numbers, that capitalism is the cause or that communism would fix it? --- "Why you gotta fight with me at Cheesecake, you know I love to go there." - Drake ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 09/01/17 3:03:18 PM #54: |
pikachupwnage posted...
pinky0926 posted...Antifar posted...The financial crisis I'm not defending communism, just explaining why young people might be disillusioned with the current state of the world and looking to other ideologies that claim to fix these problems --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kavatar 09/01/17 3:04:23 PM #55: |
I've seen a lot of support for democratic socialism, but where are all these people supporting communism?
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Twinmold 09/01/17 3:05:52 PM #56: |
Aaand you just employed a weasely method to imply that I'm a white supremacist sympathizer. I guess you don't really have an issue with words being deceptively misused after all. And many conservatives show a surprising amount of concern for the safety of nazis rights and ideologies. I wish they would stop posturing, and pretending that they aren't just racist towards blacks, and spiteful towards Democrats. That's what all of this is. It's posturing. Not every conservative is a Nazi. That would be a blatant misgeneralization, but a hefty portion harbor a lot of racial resentment, even if they would deny it to high heaven. I think a lot of conservatives see these nazis and white supremacists as part of "their team." They may not want to show them around town, but they get awfully defensive when they're attacked. --- Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/01/17 3:09:58 PM #57: |
darkjedilink posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...glitteringfairy posted...True communism would be fantastic but it's impossible to achieve with humans in charge of it. Father: The worker who thinks he's really in control, and the only truly productive member. Mother: The one who's really in control, while letting the worker (father) think otherwise. Children: Assigned menial and meaningless (but vastly overstated) tasks by the family authority, and punished as they rebel. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 09/01/17 3:31:08 PM #58: |
Twinmold posted...
Aaand you just employed a weasely method to imply that I'm a white supremacist sympathizer. I guess you don't really have an issue with words being deceptively misused after all. ITP - having an issue with someone's rights being violated makes you a racist. I guess the Civil Rights Act is racist, huh? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DreadedWave 09/01/17 3:36:25 PM #59: |
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mario2000 09/01/17 3:43:46 PM #60: |
when did communism become so popular amongst the young and uneducated? not sure if satire or just doesn't know what communism is --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Newhopes 09/01/17 3:46:08 PM #61: |
DreadedWave posted...
Because capitalism is a doomed system. And we've had a 100 years of communism been a complete and utter failure, so whats your point? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 09/01/17 3:59:02 PM #62: |
mario2000 posted...
when did communism become so popular amongst the young and uneducated? Sounds like he's got a pretty good handle on it. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 09/01/17 4:05:06 PM #63: |
Twinmold posted...
Aaand you just employed a weasely method to imply that I'm a white supremacist sympathizer. I guess you don't really have an issue with words being deceptively misused after all. When I oppose the "punch a nazi" movement that may look like concern for their well being to people who don't understand the value in free speech. "Racial resentment" is a staple of cultural Marxism. Would you like for me to post videos of angry non whites saying whites should have their shit taken away? --- "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 09/01/17 5:19:49 PM #65: |
CrimsonRage posted...
tennisdude818 posted...Twinmold posted...Aaand you just employed a weasely method to imply that I'm a white supremacist sympathizer. I guess you don't really have an issue with words being deceptively misused after all. This doesn't address my post at all so I'm wondering why I'm even quoted here. When Antifa calls everybody to the right of Hillary Clinton a nazi I'm going to take notice. It doesn't have anything to do with me identifying with actual nazis. Leftists are the ones grouping nazis in with me. The amount of projection from the left is staggering. "Don't carelessly call everybody you disagree with a communist! Also I see nazis everywhere. Racial resentment is bad! Also I side with cultural Marxists." --- "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 09/01/17 5:39:57 PM #66: |
Newhopes posted...
DreadedWave posted...Because capitalism is a doomed system. 1. there have been socialist states, but full communism has never been achieved 2. the biggest obstacle to socialism has been US interference --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 09/01/17 5:45:02 PM #67: |
averagejoel posted...
Newhopes posted...DreadedWave posted...Because capitalism is a doomed system. Pretty sure Russia's food lines being blocks long for some stale bread and days-old sausage had more to do with socialism's proven shittiness than America ever did. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PonyLivesMatter 09/01/17 5:47:37 PM #68: |
luigi13579 posted...
I think it's a reaction against modern captalism / neoliberalism, which they feel is unsustainable and makes people do terrible things to survive within it. Communism is basically the antithesis of that: a classless, moneyless, stateless society. Ironoc since under communism you have to do terrible things to survive by default. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 09/01/17 5:53:27 PM #69: |
darkjedilink posted...
averagejoel posted...Newhopes posted...DreadedWave posted...Because capitalism is a doomed system. you think one famine in one country did more to harm socialism than the funding of counterrevolutionary groups, assassination or kidnapping of democratically elected leaders, and installation of fascist dictators, in like 20+ countries? --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GenGrievous03 09/01/17 6:11:23 PM #70: |
I'm not even communist (lean more towards social democracy), but lol at using death tolls attributed to communism. "Communist dictators have killed millions!!!". And capitalism hasn't?
Also, you can say what you will about Cuba, but there is not a single homeless person on there, literacy rate is pretty much 100%, etc. Meanwhile, go for a walk in any urban center in the United States and tell me unchecked capitalism doesn't kill. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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metralo 09/01/17 6:11:38 PM #71: |
SharpX68000 posted...
Communism has proven to be more deadly in its impact. no. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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metralo 09/01/17 6:12:22 PM #72: |
communist dictators haven't even killed millions. its obvious propaganda that's still in effect to this day.
capitalism kills millions yearly. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 09/01/17 6:16:01 PM #73: |
ITT there are some holocoaust denial level delusional statements.
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darkjedilink 09/01/17 6:33:10 PM #74: |
averagejoel posted...
darkjedilink posted...averagejoel posted...Newhopes posted...DreadedWave posted...Because capitalism is a doomed system. The food lines were the result of socialism, and affected hundreds of millions of people - the very people being crushed by it, so yes, I do. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wah_wah_wah 09/01/17 6:39:22 PM #75: |
To some extent the free market is for suckers. That's why wealthy people preach about the free market. Not because it helps the poor and their managers. Because the free market is not what they participated in to get rich, oh no, but if everyone had the power and protection they had, then the whole system falls apart. So get back to work, bitch. Daddy needs a new government-protected yacht.
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FLUFFYGERM 09/01/17 6:57:23 PM #76: |
averagejoel is a joke. he has no evidence for his ridiculous claims. i asked him for sources a couple days ago and he barfed up some wikipedia articles that didn't even say what he says.
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The Admiral 09/01/17 7:04:10 PM #77: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
averagejoel is a joke. he has no evidence for his ridiculous claims. i asked him for sources a couple days ago and he barfed up some wikipedia articles that didn't even say what he says. He's a gimmick account who posts this stuff intentionally, like metarlo. I have no clue why people keep having serious discussions with him. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 09/01/17 7:08:46 PM #78: |
wah_wah_wah posted...
To some extent the free market is for suckers. That's why wealthy people preach about the free market. Not because it helps the poor and their managers. Because the free market is not what they participated in to get rich, oh no, but if everyone had the power and protection they had, then the whole system falls apart. So get back to work, bitch. Daddy needs a new government-protected yacht. the poor in the west have a phenomenal standard of living. it has been improving in every way. thanks free enterprise!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 09/01/17 7:08:58 PM #79: |
wah_wah_wah posted...
To some extent the free market is for suckers. That's why wealthy people preach about the free market. Not because it helps the poor and their managers. Because the free market is not what they participated in to get rich, oh no, but if everyone had the power and protection they had, then the whole system falls apart. So get back to work, bitch. Daddy needs a new government-protected yacht. Those "protections" you spew hatred towards the rich over prove it's not a free market. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 09/01/17 7:09:16 PM #80: |
The Admiral posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...averagejoel is a joke. he has no evidence for his ridiculous claims. i asked him for sources a couple days ago and he barfed up some wikipedia articles that didn't even say what he says. idk i think he is serious ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 09/01/17 8:01:05 PM #81: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
averagejoel is a joke. he has no evidence for his ridiculous claims. i asked him for sources a couple days ago and he barfed up some wikipedia articles that didn't even say what he says. I wasn't even making an argument - I said that the US interfered in foreign democracies, and I linked to sources that gave evidence of that you dismissed it by asking me to link to people making arguments when I never made any in the first place --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 09/01/17 8:22:29 PM #82: |
The Admiral posted...
mario2000 posted...when did communism become so popular amongst the young and uneducated? Not if he thinks it is popular among any generation. Does CE even have communists anymore? I know I have never met any in real life. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 09/01/17 8:24:04 PM #83: |
Class based communism has been replaced by the oppression olympics aka social Marxism.
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hockeybub89 09/01/17 8:26:52 PM #84: |
tennisdude818 posted...
Class based communism has been replaced by the oppression olympics aka social Marxism. Replaced by who in where? Angry Facebook posts? Neither of those have any traction in most developed countries. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 09/01/17 8:50:08 PM #85: |
hockeybub89 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...Class based communism has been replaced by the oppression olympics aka social Marxism. By the leftist academia and media in the West. I'm referring to intersectional feminism and critical race theory. These are much older than Facebook and the internet. --- "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GenGrievous03 09/01/17 9:00:03 PM #86: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...To some extent the free market is for suckers. That's why wealthy people preach about the free market. Not because it helps the poor and their managers. Because the free market is not what they participated in to get rich, oh no, but if everyone had the power and protection they had, then the whole system falls apart. So get back to work, bitch. Daddy needs a new government-protected yacht. tfw when the countries with the highest standards of living are the ones with strong government regulation on the economy (Welfare states). They are not full blown socialist states, but are far from having neoliberal politics. Hell, even the United States lived its glory days in terms of standars of living during the 50's and 60's due to FDR's legacy of semi Keynesian politics. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smoke944 09/01/17 9:10:23 PM #87: |
GenGrievous03 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...wah_wah_wah posted...To some extent the free market is for suckers. That's why wealthy people preach about the free market. Not because it helps the poor and their managers. Because the free market is not what they participated in to get rich, oh no, but if everyone had the power and protection they had, then the whole system falls apart. So get back to work, bitch. Daddy needs a new government-protected yacht. Those were the glory days because the manufacturing base of Europe and Asia was a smoldering ruin. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 09/01/17 10:37:10 PM #89: |
tennisdude818 posted...
Class based communism has been replaced by the oppression olympics aka social Marxism. the people that I assume you're talking about are not marxists - they're just talking about their experience, not necessarily grounding that with a lens of dialectical materialism not that there's anything wrong with that per se, but it's a different thing --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 09/01/17 10:41:42 PM #90: |
averagejoel posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...averagejoel is a joke. he has no evidence for his ridiculous claims. i asked him for sources a couple days ago and he barfed up some wikipedia articles that didn't even say what he says. hahaha ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 09/01/17 10:47:21 PM #91: |
I don't really think communism is all that popular.
Rather, it seems what's becoming more popular is the desire for more policies which include socialist ideas. --- PSN: kazukifafner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Knowledge_King 09/02/17 1:25:53 AM #92: |
tennisdude818 posted...
Kinda. It stems from bad diet which is heavily influenced by capitalism. Also less incentive to find cheap cures. --- http://www.warwithwords.com He Who Leads: Global Ebook Award Winner:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 09/02/17 7:41:40 AM #93: |
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/02/socialism-young-americans-bernie-sanders
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Southernfatman 09/02/17 8:23:19 AM #94: |
I've seen more critics of capitalism being called communists (when they are not) than actual supporters of communism.
People who want communism are silly, but so are people who heavily support and never criticize our so called "free market" capitalism. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EverDownward 09/02/17 8:27:14 AM #95: |
Excuse you, TC, communism is popular among the young and educated. They went to college, so it's pointless to argue them.
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FLUFFYGERM 09/02/17 9:29:36 AM #96: |
Knowledge_King posted...
tennisdude818 posted... under capitalism there is a lot of incentive to have the best product at the lowest cost. cheap cures would steal a lot of market share from the expensive cures. this is why products and services are overall getting cheaper with time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sinroth 09/02/17 9:46:55 AM #97: |
I think the online interest in communism is actually an online interest in social democracies with strong welfare states, not any actual serious opposition to capitalism as a system
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untrustful 09/02/17 9:53:15 AM #98: |
pinky0926 posted...
Antifar posted...The financial crisis And more expensive college education --- My Mario Maker Levels https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/untrustful?type=posted ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 09/02/17 10:01:37 AM #99: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...averagejoel is a joke. he has no evidence for his ridiculous claims. i asked him for sources a couple days ago and he barfed up some wikipedia articles that didn't even say what he says. I know, right? it's ridiculous that you did it --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 09/02/17 11:12:36 AM #100: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
Rather, it seems what's becoming more popular is the desire for more policies which include socialist ideas. What's becoming popular to young people is programs where they get free things, or get social praises for granting free things to other people, and never pay for it themselves. When young people touting socialism/communism are asked to personally contribute more money to make these expanded social programs viable, they become extremely conservative: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/in-theory/wp/2016/03/24/millennials-like-socialism-until-they-get-jobs/ --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 09/02/17 11:18:05 AM #101: |
Barring deep-rooted ideas, it's not surprising at all that many people align with what fits their immediate needs.
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