Current Events > If Caitlyn Jenner was never a thing, do you think Transgender issues would be

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I personally think a lot of the transgender stuff would be a lot more low key and the high tensions of public restrooms wouldn't exist. When Jenner came out, the world let it known and then everyone started worrying she was going to peep on them.

Do you think if Jenner wasn't transgender, that society would have a different view on trans people right now? And in what way, for better or for worse?
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What about Chelsea Manning?

It would be an issue because people think it's weird and they don't understand it.
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Yes. If you look at it, the community dropped Jenner as a spokesperson / role model once they realized she was still a Republican and a Trump supporter. So while she was valuable at the moment, she hasn't been used since.

Yes.
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They were already a rapidly-increasingly hot topic before she came out.
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Eh, I suppose I mean on a bigger scale as it is. Like.... there's legislation against it. Without Jenner's influence, would these law proposals and uprising fear still be occurring? I feel like a lot of people never really knew how real of a thing this was until she happened.
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Sayoria posted...

Without Jenner's influence, would these law proposals and uprising fear still be occurring?

Yes, because as it gains acceptance laws that are prejudiced against transpeople become challenged and people can't stand change, especially when it's something that's extremely unusual to them.
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But I mean no acceptance laws either. I believe those were influenced by Jenner too. There was a time trans people would use bathrooms without people even thinking about us, pro or against.

I just wonder what a current day society would be like if it were still that way.
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Sayoria posted...

I just wonder what a current day society would be like if it were still that way.

I don't think it's possible that it ever would have stayed that way, Jenner or not.
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DreadedWave posted...

Sayoria posted...

I just wonder what a current day society would be like if it were still that way.

I don't think it's possible that it ever would have stayed that way, Jenner or not.

Yeah, I suppose that's true. It's just food for thought.
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If not Jenner, it would have been some other high profile person eventually.
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Absolutely. You have a weird obsession with Caitlyn Jenner. She is hardly as relevant as you make her out to be. This is like blaming homophobia on some flamboyant actor from the '80s.
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trans issues have been a thing at least since the 90s its just that normies are suddenly waking up to it for some reason. probably tumblr
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caitlyn jenner is irrelevant say

why are you so obsessed with her
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I think the current beef with transgenders and bathrooms and dumb shit like that was inevitable. Someone eventually was going to escalate it into the common person's viewspace, and it happened to be Caitlyn Jenner.

So yeah, i don't really think it'd be a thing, but it totally would still happen eventually anyway
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