Board 8 > Hearthstone Discussion Topic: Lok'tar Ogar!

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Dog's mill warrior is exactly my style of deck. You don't win. You just prevent the other guy from winning.

I wonder if the meta just becomes a Rock Paper Scissors of

Hunter beats Priest
Shaman beats Hunter
Priest beats Shaman

I also think Tempo Rogue is pretty strong and may become the aggro deck of choice
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You know I understand hunter is supposed to be a tough matchup for priest because they can build a beast with 4 attack very easily and I can't do anything, but Hunter is my best matchup statistically, even though like all the games I barely win.
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VeryInsane posted...

I wonder if the meta just becomes a Rock Paper Scissors of

Hunter beats Priest
Shaman beats Hunter
Priest beats Shaman

I also think Tempo Rogue is pretty strong and may become the aggro deck of choice

I don't see the word Druid in this post so I hope so.
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Well, it may be good. Haven't fought that many on ladder

But I did get Unlicense Apothecary from Thrall and it dealt 20 damage to me! Yaaaaay
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DK Warlock does the same if you accidentally get one, doesn't it?
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Yeah, though DK Warlock isn't random.
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MrSmartGuy - 09/12/2017
my first try with deathknight thrall turned my totem into an unlicensed apothecary and killed me
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I still won cause I had absolute full health prior and Board control and just killed the apothecary immediately
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I have 3 minions on board, hunter has 6. One of his minions is a 4/3, and the other five are 1/1 hounds.

You can guess which minion Brawl left alive. Hearthstone is in no way a skill based game.

Just found out that hallazeal + Volcano = a pretty long turn, lol
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Had a game versus druid where on turn one he played innervate and tried went to grab a card. He was like "A natural mistake" and conceded.
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There's way more Hunter on ladder than I expected

Pirates oppressed them so much huh
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So it seems Pirate Warrior has been completely replaced by Face Hunter on the ladder. Does anyone else feel like it was LESS annoying losing to Pirate Warrior?
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Examples from just the last hour of Hearthstone having NOTHING to do with skill level:

-lost FOUR different Brawls in one game.
-next game, Obsidian Statue hit my best minion on a 25% chance twice
-two games in a row, my last two cards in library were Dead Man's Hand x2. The reason I don't usually run decks like this is because I can't rely on drawing things in the right order.

and, like, omg, my jade rogue yesterday lost because N'Zoth and Valeera the Hollow were the last two cards. There's a 1 in 435 chance of that ever happening! Such skill...that stupid warlock should have never had a chance.
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how long can this go on

https://clips.twitch.tv/HomelyInexpensiveMetalFreakinStinkin




90 turns and 550 armor apparently
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Oh my god, is Armorsmith the tech to beat the mirror now that they've introduced the rule where the player with the most armor wins? That's hilarious.
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I thought Armorsmith was always in the deck
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p sure it is too

also I think with more turns, coldlight guy would have won
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In one game, I lost 6 Brawls and saw a Priest discover three Dead Man's Hand from discovered Drakonid Operative. Then after I milled his Ysera and all three DMH, he randomly generates a second Ysera.

Totally a skill game though. You also can't cast Brawl with one minion out for some idiotic reason, which is more of Blizzard's trash mechanics.

At least actual dice rolling requires knowledge of math. This is literally just coin flipping with zero skill involved.

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Oh my god, is Armorsmith the tech to beat the mirror now that they've introduced the rule where the player with the most armor wins? That's hilarious.

King Mukla so you fill their hand is the actual mirrorbreaker. It relies on RNG instead of any player skill, so don't count on it.

Hunter misplayed and went all face with his Huffer, Bearshark, and 1/1 alleycat and left my engineer on board, letting me Thalnos + Spirit Lash.

then he just Grandmother'd the next turn and I played Raza on curve and he conceded EZ TASTE MY SKILL
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So my winning percentage in wild with pirates somehow went up past 10.

You say it's a misplay VI, but is that not the only realistic way he has to win at that point? Just gotta hope you don't have Spirit Lash, since I'm assuming that's your only out by that point.
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Eh, I dunno. I think trading in the cat is fine there. You're only losing 1 attack and have 8 attack on board which you can further power up with something like Houndmaster or Razormaw on the Bearshark

Even like Potion of Madness punishes him there cause now I have a way to kill the Huffer and develop board with a 3 drop
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Someone needs to spectate some of my DMH Warrior games before claiming this game has anything to do with skill level. It's statistically impossible to draw as badly as I do on a regular basis. This is the kind of trash that made me quit Magic. The mana system in that game was so terrible that it stopped being worth the effort.

In this game, it's actually worse due to the so-called randomness being computerized.

I have 8 cards in hand, 15 in library. Mage plays Oracle, meaning there's a 1 in 13 chance to mill my one copy of Dirty Rat.

I had the concede button ready before it even popped up, because Hearthstone has NOTHING to so with skill level. My draw luck is so bad that I can literally predict it before it happens.

"Skill based game" my fucking ass.

Next game, shaman has a board of 5 nothings. I dirty rat his aya out and brawl.

And OF COURSE aya lives.

"Skill based game" my fucking ass. There are zero standards where anyone can call this a skill game. It is nothing but rng trash.

80 gold to the first person who challenges me.
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Next game I milled 11 cards from a Priest and played 2 Dirty Rats. Not one of these instances hit Kazakus, Raza, Anduin DK, Velen, or Medivh. I don't even want to do the math here but I know it's impossible.

"Skill based game" my fucking ass.

Please stop
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KokoroAkechi posted...

80 gold to the first person who challenges me.

How many minions were out when I cast Brawl? There were 6, right?

Are you even remotely surprised Adventurer lived? Imagine that multiple times per game.

Had a great game versus a warlock

https://hsreplay.net/replay/XXX4ZKD8EFRJKxRr9GLVR3

All the way to fatigue.
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Dude, Ulti, if you're that miserable playing this game then just fucking stop. It's making us miserable too.
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I highly recommend quitting. there are much better things to do with your free time. I mean there's so many good games out there, even so many good, free games out there. at zero risk to yourself you could probably be playing 5-10 hours of games every week and never run out of good games to play. without even having to spend any money if you didn't want to.
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I've been playing BOTW since this was project week and we finished early

Game is pretty cool but now that I'm like super strong it seems to lose its sense of scale

Also, Ulti doesn't have money issues and he plays games he hates to completion. He kept playing Warcraft 3 for a banner or something
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ulti is addicted, hell never stop
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yeah the free games was more just to demonstrate the absolute scale and magnitude of how many good games are out there right now. the idea of spending all of your time playing one game you hate is pretty absurd when there is so many great products on the market. like the market is so saturated right now that not only are there a ton of games you can buy that will be well worth the purchase, there's an almost limitless pool of games that people are just giving away for free and are still really good and worth playing.

now imagine being someone who spends hundreds of dollars on a digital cardgame they hate.
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He wants that golden portrait. He's literally obsessed with wanting those silly trinkets and collectibles. It's why he paid me to get him to legend rank because he wanted the card back. I did it somewhat because I thought he would stop afterward and it was what he wanted. I was mistaken.

Maybe he should play one of those Pirate Warriors that runs Prince K
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http://sharehs.com/warrior/2435/

Like this list.

Man I thought Pirates were dead oops.

Also Prince K is in a lot of Aggro decks lately
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I finally won a Brawl, and won that game withease. Imagine that. It took 18 games to actually have a board wipe work.

MariaTaylor posted...

yeah the free games was more just to demonstrate the absolute scale and magnitude of how many good games are out there right now. the idea of spending all of your time playing one game you hate is pretty absurd when there is so many great products on the market. like the market is so saturated right now that not only are there a ton of games you can buy that will be well worth the purchase, there's an almost limitless pool of games that people are just giving away for free and are still really good and worth playing.

now imagine being someone who spends hundreds of dollars on a digital cardgame they hate.

You would be amazed at the dumb things rich people spend money on.

Forget the money, what about your time? Why not do something you enjoy?
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I do think Evolve Shaman is the best deck to climb with right now

Seems like Tempo Rogue is also really popular and extremely good. Shadowstepping Keleseth and then pulling Patches next turn is so dirty
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