Current Events > Man dies in first New York City police shooting caught on body camera.

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UnfairRepresent
09/07/17 5:20:19 PM
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Police officers fatally shot a 31-year-old Bronx man on Wednesday afternoon after they were called to his home by his landlord and the man confronted them with a knife and what turned out to be a toy gun with a laser, the authorities said. It was the first shooting involving a New York City officer to be captured on police body cameras.

The police were summoned to the apartment, near Seton Falls Park, around 4 p.m. after the landlord reported that he had not seen his tenant in some time. The landlord escorted the first officers who arrived to the man’s third-floor unit and unlocked the door for them.

When they went inside, the man was clutching a small knife in his left hand and hiding his right hand behind his back, Carlos M. Gomez, the chief of department for the New York Police Department, said at a news conference late Wednesday.

The two officers repeatedly asked the man to drop the knife but he refused, Mr. Gomez said. After pleading with him, the officers noticed that he was gripping what appeared to be a laser-mounted pistol.

“We don’t want to hurt you,” an officer told the man, according to Mr. Gomez.

The man continued to ignore their orders to drop the weapons and then raised the gun, the police said. One officer shot a Taser at him and two others fired their handguns, striking the man multiple times, Mr. Gomez said.

The man, whose name was not immediately released, was pronounced dead in the apartment, which is in the 3700 block of Pratt Avenue in the Edenwald neighborhood. The man’s silver and black handgun turned out to be a toy, the police said.

Lawrence Thompson, who lives on the first floor of the building, said he overheard the man’s encounter with the officers. “The only thing I heard was gunshots: pow, pow, pow, pow,” said Mr. Thompson, sitting in the building’s garage while the police processed the scene.

He said the third-floor neighbor had moved into the red brick building about three months ago and kept to himself. “He passed by and didn’t say nothing to nobody,” Mr. Thompson, 58, said.

Mr. Gomez said that the four officers in the apartment during the shooting were all wearing body cameras, which captured their pleas with the man and the shooting. The officers, assigned to the city’s 47th Precinct, were issued the cameras two months ago.

Mr. Gomez said that the cameras showed that the officers had spent several minutes trying to get the man to cooperate before he was shot. He added that the police commissioner, James P. O’Neill, was reviewing the footage from the body cameras and would decide whether to make the videos public.

The New York Police Department, which initially resisted issuing body cameras to officers, started a yearlong pilot program with them in April. The first officers to wear them went on patrol in the 34th Precinct in Upper Manhattan.

By the end of this year, 1,200 officers in 20 precincts will be wearing cameras.


Full Article: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/06/nyregion/bronx-police-shooting.html

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Zeus
09/07/17 5:24:52 PM
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If they'd already tasered him, why shoot him?
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lilORANG
09/07/17 5:25:35 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The man continued to ignore their orders to drop the weapons and then raised the gun

meh
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Mark_DeRosa
09/07/17 5:26:09 PM
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Fair

You can't tell these days what's a real gun or not

Why risk a life
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UnfairRepresent
09/07/17 5:26:12 PM
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Zeus posted...
If they'd already tasered him, why shoot him?

I haven't seen the video but on paper:

1. 3 cops all fired at the same time.

2. Tazers aren't always effective.
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eston
09/07/17 5:27:32 PM
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Sativa_Rose
09/07/17 5:28:09 PM
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Sounds like the body cam will shut BLM up immediately but we haven't seen it yet so idk
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NeonOctopus
09/07/17 5:28:40 PM
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Zeus posted...
If they'd already tasered him, why shoot him?

It sounds like everyone just shot him at the same time >_>
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UnfairRepresent
09/07/17 5:30:07 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
will shut BLM up

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DragonGirlYuki
09/07/17 5:30:11 PM
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It is really hard to tell if a gun is real or fake.
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That_Happened
09/07/17 5:32:34 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Sounds like the body cam will shut BLM up


Has BLM even said anything? And I'm not talking about on social media.
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_Squirtle_
09/07/17 5:33:03 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The two officers repeatedly asked the man to drop the knife but he refused


and somehow some sick fucks out there will defend him despite this
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NadYobWoc
09/07/17 5:33:39 PM
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This is the start of a long downward spirial.


How so?
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Sativa_Rose
09/07/17 5:37:51 PM
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That_Happened posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Sounds like the body cam will shut BLM up


Has BLM even said anything? And I'm not talking about on social media.


I don't know any of them IRL so social media is the only way I can find that out
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Capn Circus
09/07/17 5:38:16 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Sounds like the body cam will shut BLM up immediately but we haven't seen it yet so idk


These body cams will likely put an end to most of this killed unjustly talk. And hopefully quickly. I've had a belly full
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UnfairRepresent
09/07/17 5:38:20 PM
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NadYobWoc posted...
This is the start of a long downward spirial.


How so?

Police body cams are a bad idea.

But a certain group of people "Feel" like they want it to be a good idea.

So we're going to actively make the world worse just so some lazy people feel better.

It's a shame and it means more of the same logic will be enforced upon your children in the future
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BootyGif
09/07/17 5:41:14 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
turned out to be a toy gun with a laser


assuming they identified themselves this is just fucking idiocy
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Questionmarktarius
09/07/17 5:45:21 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I haven't seen the video
Nobody has, apparently.

Mr. Gomez said that the cameras showed that the officers had spent several minutes trying to get the man to cooperate before he was shot. He added that the police commissioner, James P. O’Neill, was reviewing the footage from the body cameras and would decide whether to make the videos public.

Why is there even a question of whether or not to release the video? It's used by an agency the public pays to protect the public, who thus have a right to watch the watchmen.
Police bodycam footage should be dumped to a publicly-accessible server nightly.
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Zikten
09/07/17 5:47:47 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Police bodycam footage should be dumped to a publicly-accessible server nightly.

I agree with this. I'd vote for a president who made this their campaign promise
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UnfairRepresent
09/07/17 5:50:37 PM
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Zikten posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Police bodycam footage should be dumped to a publicly-accessible server nightly.

I agree with this. I'd vote for a president who made this their campaign promise

Sigless user logic
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GOATSLAYER
09/07/17 5:52:11 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
This is the start of a long downward spirial.


How so?

Police body cams are a bad idea.

But a certain group of people "Feel" like they want it to be a good idea.

So we're going to actively make the world worse just so some lazy people feel better.

It's a shame and it means more of the same logic will be enforced upon your children in the future

What makes them a bad idea?
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Questionmarktarius
09/07/17 5:53:29 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Sigless user logic

Damn straight it is.
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NadYobWoc
09/07/17 7:06:09 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
This is the start of a long downward spirial.


How so?

Police body cams are a bad idea.

But a certain group of people "Feel" like they want it to be a good idea.

So we're going to actively make the world worse just so some lazy people feel better.

It's a shame and it means more of the same logic will be enforced upon your children in the future

This is some extremely fuzzy logic.
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Axiom
09/07/17 7:09:00 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Sigless user logic

Damn straight it is.

Sigless user logic is best logic especially when compared to posts like #16
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BootyGif
09/07/17 7:09:03 PM
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NadYobWoc posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
This is the start of a long downward spirial.


How so?

Police body cams are a bad idea.

But a certain group of people "Feel" like they want it to be a good idea.

So we're going to actively make the world worse just so some lazy people feel better.

It's a shame and it means more of the same logic will be enforced upon your children in the future

This is some extremely fuzzy logic.

its a stupid as fuck statement. that nurse in utah is proof that its a good thing.
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AlternativeFAQS
09/07/17 7:23:13 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Police body cams are a bad idea.

You thinking is a bad idea
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Hexenherz
09/07/17 7:52:06 PM
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eston posted...
Tasered and shot him at the same time?

The conductive metals that comprise the bullet intensify the shock from the taser.
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Howl
09/07/17 7:57:38 PM
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So what race was the man, and all the officers involved?
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UnfairRepresent
09/08/17 3:39:50 AM
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BootyGif posted...

its a stupid as fuck statement. that nurse in utah is proof that its a good thing.

Not really. There is no relevant information from the body cam that has done anything to change the case.

It's just made you feel better to have seen it.
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