Current Events > New Marilyn Manson album

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October 6th

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_Upside_Down

@Conflict, did you know about this? I haven't listened to the song on the page, yet.
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@I_Like_Toast
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Pretty excited about this. Manson was on Howard Stern earlier this week and I can’t wait to hear this new album.
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I haven't listened to Manson since Holy Wood came out when I was in high school.
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I heard the pandora commercial this morning. He sounded like they called and woke him up.

"Our album will be out October sixth... I think you can click the screen and check it out... if you want it, you can buy it. If not, fuck you."
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trent was always and will always be better
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hortanz posted...

trent was always and will always be better

He sold the fuck out. Are you pretending that newer garbage just doesn't exist? Marilyn Manson never stabbed his fan base in the back.
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Wasn't aware of this, definitely gonna check it out.

Haven't listened to him in a few years. Since High End of Low, iirc.
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The Golden Age of Grotesque is one of the best albums ever created. In the history of the universe.
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Lol and you once went out of your way to accuse me of liking edgy music and you're talking about the new Marilyn Manson album... Really dude?
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That lucky mam has been in Rose McGowan's vagina. She hasn't aged well at all but back them, damn.
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RockRapDubstep posted...

Lol and you once went out of your way to accuse me of liking edgy music and you're talking about the new Marilyn Manson album... Really dude?

You don't like Marilyn manson? You're like the cosmopolitan ice cream flavor of music, so surely it fits in somewhere.


Anyway, those songs were pretty badass. I will most likely but the whole CD, as opposed to buying individual tracks that I like.
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This topic inspired me to listen yo his discography again tonight at work lol
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--kresnik-- posted...

He sold the fuck out.

It's called growing up.
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hortanz posted...

trent was always and will always be better

this. manson has always been a joke.
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ArtVandelay posted...

hortanz posted...

trent was always and will always be better

this. manson has always been a joke.

Manson was basically made by Trent, then Manson turned on him. Hence the NIN song: starfuckers,Inc. Bring entirely about Manson.

They have made up since then though.
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Last time I saw him was on Sons Of Anarchy. And he had become shockingly fat.
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EternalDivide posted...

Last time I saw him was on Sons Of Anarchy. And he had become shockingly fat.

People get fatter as they age, normally.
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He blamed columbine for ruining his career
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I love how NiN fanboys say "Trent," like they're talking about their best buddy. Same goes from Maynard Keenan. NiN's newer music was a fuck-you to their loyal fans.

(I like both of those artists and their bands, but holy shit).
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--kresnik-- posted...

hortanz posted...

trent was always and will always be better

He sold the fuck out. Are you pretending that newer garbage just doesn't exist? Marilyn Manson never stabbed his fan base in the back.

1. NIN is literally indie at this point
2. Released The Slip and Ghosts for free legally
3. His entire life since Purest Feeling has been a battle with record labels

I'm not sure what the fuck you think selling out means, but it's the exact opposite of what Trent does.
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Does Manson have any hits that aren't a Al style done dark and gothic cover/remake of an older song? seriously "beautiful ppl" "sweet dreams" "personal Jesus" "tainted love"

does dude have ANY hit songs of his own?

Portrait of an American Family > Antichrist Superstar > Mechanical Animals > Smells Like Children

The only 4 albums worth listening to IMO.
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bobbysjoby posted...

Does Manson have any hits that aren't a Al style done dark and gothic cover/remake of an older song? seriously "beautiful ppl" "sweet dreams" "personal Jesus" "tainted love"

does dude have ANY hit songs of his own?

Beautiful People literally is an original song from Manson but whatever
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bobbysjoby posted...

Does Manson have any hits that aren't a Al style done dark and gothic cover/remake of an older song? seriously "beautiful ppl" "sweet dreams" "personal Jesus" "tainted love"

does dude have ANY hit songs of his own?

Congratulations on managing to list the only songs he did that I don't care for.

This is the New Shit
Fight Song
(s)Aint
Coma white/ black
Disposable teens...

I could keep on going.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

--kresnik-- posted...

hortanz posted...

trent was always and will always be better

He sold the fuck out. Are you pretending that newer garbage just doesn't exist? Marilyn Manson never stabbed his fan base in the back.

1. NIN is literally indie at this point
2. Released The Slip and Ghosts for free legally
3. His entire life since Purest Feeling has been a battle with record labels

I'm not sure what the fuck you think selling out means, but it's the exact opposite of what Trent does.

"NiN is completely indie, now. They didn't sellout."
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--kresnik-- posted...

The Golden Age of Grotesque is one of the best albums ever created. In the history of the universe.

It's HIS best album, and it's a good album but no way is it that good.
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manson sucks
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--kresnik-- posted...

ChromaticAngel posted...

--kresnik-- posted...

hortanz posted...

trent was always and will always be better

He sold the fuck out. Are you pretending that newer garbage just doesn't exist? Marilyn Manson never stabbed his fan base in the back.

1. NIN is literally indie at this point
2. Released The Slip and Ghosts for free legally
3. His entire life since Purest Feeling has been a battle with record labels

I'm not sure what the fuck you think selling out means, but it's the exact opposite of what Trent does.

"NiN is completely indie, now. They didn't sellout."

They were Indie since The Slip
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Conflict posted...

bobbysjoby posted...

Does Manson have any hits that aren't a Al style done dark and gothic cover/remake of an older song? seriously "beautiful ppl" "sweet dreams" "personal Jesus" "tainted love"

does dude have ANY hit songs of his own?

Beautiful People isn't a cover, dumbass. Lmao

He also has numerous original hits that you could very easily discover if you did your own research. This is like asking if Johnny Cash had any original hits because he covered Hurt

Rekt
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--kresnik-- posted...

"NiN is completely indie, now. They didn't sellout."

How does this contradict in your head
Define "sellout"
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hortanz posted...

--kresnik-- posted...

"NiN is completely indie, now. They didn't sellout."

How does this contradict in your head
Define "sellout"

Different people say it for different reasons. Basically, they built a humongous fan base and then just changed music styles.
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I'm open to trying this, having not heard his new stuff in years and years, but has he lyrically evolved or is it still cringey angstheist stuff?

Saw him at a festival a few years back, still a great live performer.

Im also excited. The new song he just released from the album "kill4me" was awesome. Hopefully it will be good, his last couple albums have been kinda let downs.

--kresnik-- posted...

hortanz posted...

trent was always and will always be better

He sold the fuck out. Are you pretending that newer garbage just doesn't exist? Marilyn Manson never stabbed his fan base in the back.

This triggered me so hard. Trent Reznor never sold out. His most recent album (Hesitation Marks) and most recent EP (Add Violence that just came out a couple months ago) are amazing. NIN are leagues above MM.

Nine inch nails is hit or miss because you never know what they're going to give you. They are inconsistent and even if they went back to playing normally, that would not erase the years of toothless indie nonsense that they released. Marilyn Manson played for the people and never stabbed his fanbase in the back.
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TIL: an artist progressing, making the art that they want to, and not rehashing themselves repeatedly is selling out and stabbing fans in the back

y i k e s
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hortanz posted...

TIL: an artist progressing, making the art that they want to, and not rehashing themselves repeatedly is selling out and stabbing fans in the back

y i k e s

What if Led Zeppelin became a polka band? You think this fanbase wouldn't have been mad? NiN was hard and heavy and badass before they went to that hippy-skippy shit. Many fans in the 90s idolized the band and it was an outlet for their bullshit. Then they changed for the worse.
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it looks like you weren't able to grow up alongside the band
unfortunate
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--kresnik-- posted...

hortanz posted...

--kresnik-- posted...

"NiN is completely indie, now. They didn't sellout."

How does this contradict in your head
Define "sellout"

Different people say it for different reasons. Basically, they built a humongous fan base and then just changed music styles.

1. His music didn't change drastically
2. Selling out implies music style was changed in order to compromise for a label contract. Trent Reznor didn't get any extra music label money for "changing his music style."
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ChromaticAngel posted...

2. Selling out implies music style was changed in order to compromise for a label contract. Trent Reznor didn't get any extra music label money for "changing his music style."

hey man sometimes people use the phrase for different, erroneous reasons.
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hortanz posted...

it looks like you weren't able to grow up alongside the band
unfortunate

Huh? Idk what that means
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--kresnik-- posted...

NiN was hard and heavy and badass before they went to that hippy-skippy shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuntkgvD5KU
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I didn't care for that one. It just sounded kind of soulless, like they just used studio noise rather than proper emphasis on the instruments. I'm not saying there wasn't the occasional decent song in their bad period, but the bad outweighed the good.
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--kresnik-- posted...

I didn't care for that one. It just sounded kind of soulless, like they just used studio noise rather than proper emphasis on the instruments. I'm not saying there wasn't the occasional decent song in their bad period, but the bad outweighed the good.

It was literally written in the 80s and was cut from their first album.

The nonsense about NIN old being "heavy" is basically just that. It went from this Kraftwerk-ish style music to the heavy guitars Broken to a bunch of drum machine and electronic mixing in TDS.

His albums all have different themes. Trent Reznor views his music as art and not band brand management.
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I get that, but This further supports my claims of Marilyn Manson offering a more consistent approach. I'm not faulting NiN for trying new stuff, but if the audience (aka the people paying you) go wild over one style, keep going with it.

NiN is one of my favorite bands. I'm not bashing them, but people came into this topic, which was only made to discuss the new Marilyn Manson CD, and started bashing Manson, which is way uncool. I probably listen to both bands almost every day, but regardless, I don't see the need to turn this into the NiN topic
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--kresnik-- posted...

I get that, but This further supports my claims of Marilyn Manson offering a more consistent approach. I'm not faulting NiN for trying new stuff, but if the audience (aka the people paying you) go wild over one style, keep going with it.

NiN is one of my favorite bands. I'm not bashing them, but people came into this topic, which was only made to discuss the new Marilyn Manson CD, and started bashing Manson, which is way uncool. I probably listen to both bands almost every day, but regardless, I don't see the need to turn this into the NiN topic

Sure, I think the forest is getting lost through the trees here but Manson has had similar album style changes to NIN.

Portrait of an American Family and Antichrist Superstar are extremely different thematically and musically from Mechanical Animals, just as an example.
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