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Kaliesto 09/26/17 4:36:19 AM #1:	Higher or Lower in quality since the 1990s, 2000s eras. This only affects Story & Character Quality. Computer JRPGs can be included as well if you know some bad/good games. --- It's not stupidity, it's something much worse. It's... the GameSpot comment section!-Stebsis Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:887308769] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>Higher or Lower in quality since the 1990s, 2000s eras. This only affects Story & Character Quality. Computer JRPGs can be included as well if you know some bad/good games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 09/26/17 4:43:44 AM #2:	Quality is still great if you know where to look. Quantity has diminished slightly. Everything Atlus makes is top tier <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:887308915] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>Quality is still great if you know where to look. Quantity has diminished slightly. Everything Atlus makes is top tier</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CosmicCucker 09/26/17 4:52:08 AM #3:	This year has been AAA for AAA RPG's Nier Automata Tales of Berseria Ys 8 Persona 5 Xenoblade 2 Enough to at least counterbalance the Worst Game This Year, FFXII Zodiac Age. --- Cucking the Alt Left since day one #democracywasamistake #maga <cite>CosmicCucker posted [p:887309058] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>This year has been AAA for AAA RPG's Nier Automata Tales of Berseria Ys 8 Persona 5 Xenoblade 2 Enough to at least counterbalance the Worst Game This Year, FFXII Zodiac Age.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 09/26/17 4:53:00 AM #4:	CosmicCucker posted... This year has been AAA for AAA RPG's Nier Automata Tales of Berseria Ys 8 Persona 5 Xenoblade 2 Enough to at least counterbalance the Worst Game This Year, FFXII Zodiac Age. What. Ff12 is great. Ff15 is ass. --- http://i.imgur.com/23CCcZB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/32mwCo1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oqklqKC.jpg <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:887309075] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>CosmicCucker posted...</cite> <quote>This year has been AAA for AAA RPG's Nier Automata Tales of Berseria Ys 8 Persona 5 Xenoblade 2 Enough to at least counterbalance the Worst Game This Year, FFXII Zodiac Age.</quote> What. Ff12 is great. Ff15 is ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 09/26/17 4:56:37 AM #5:	pres_madagascar posted... What. Ff12 is great. Ff15 is ass. FF15 was released last year. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:887309139] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>pres_madagascar posted...</cite> <quote>What. Ff12 is great. Ff15 is ass. </quote> FF15 was released last year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Illuminoius 09/26/17 5:01:16 AM #6:	when are we gonna finally get a tales game better than 6.7/10 <cite>Illuminoius posted [p:887309205] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>when are we gonna finally get a tales game better than 6.7/10</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 09/26/17 5:18:53 AM #7:	Illuminoius posted... when are we gonna finally get a tales game better than 6.7/10 Vesperia --- http://i.imgur.com/23CCcZB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/32mwCo1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oqklqKC.jpg <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:887309479] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>Illuminoius posted...</cite> <quote>when are we gonna finally get a tales game better than 6.7/10</quote> Vesperia</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 09/26/17 5:19:51 AM #8:	I hate the direction the Tales Games are going in, they are basically becoming too close to becoming shonen anime trash storylines. Even though old tales games like Eternia (Destiny II) had their dumb moments, but they least put more effort into their stories way back in the day. I never played Vesperia, but from what I understand the story is very good. I could not stand Graces F character logic, I felt this game was too typical of what goes on in trash-tier anime. --- It's not stupidity, it's something much worse. It's... the GameSpot comment section!-Stebsis Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:887309496] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>I hate the direction the Tales Games are going in, they are basically becoming too close to becoming shonen anime trash storylines. Even though old tales games like Eternia (Destiny II) had their dumb moments, but they least put more effort into their stories way back in the day. I never played Vesperia, but from what I understand the story is very good. I could not stand Graces F character logic, I felt this game was too typical of what goes on in trash-tier anime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mako_Sharknado 09/26/17 5:24:18 AM #9:	Kaliesto posted... I never played Versperia, but from what I understand the story is very good. Nah, actually. 's one'a the weakest in the series as far as story goes <cite>Mako_Sharknado posted [p:887309571] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaliesto posted...</cite> <quote>I never played Versperia, but from what I understand the story is very good.</quote> Nah, actually. 's one'a the weakest in the series as far as story goes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 09/26/17 5:25:34 AM #10:	Mako_Sharknado posted... Kaliesto posted... I never played Versperia, but from what I understand the story is very good. Nah, actually. 's one'a the weakest in the series as far as story goes That's sad to read then, I remember the big hype around it at the time. --- It's not stupidity, it's something much worse. It's... the GameSpot comment section!-Stebsis Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:887309589] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mako_Sharknado posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaliesto posted...</cite> <quote>I never played Versperia, but from what I understand the story is very good.</quote> Nah, actually. 's one'a the weakest in the series as far as story goes</quote> That's sad to read then, I remember the big hype around it at the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Illuminoius 09/26/17 5:26:02 AM #11:	pres_madagascar posted... Vesperia is the intro just exceptionally boring or something i just escaped the castle with estelle and went to some big wall with a horde of monsters and haven't since felt the urge to continue playing <cite>Illuminoius posted [p:887309596] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>pres_madagascar posted...</cite> <quote>Vesperia</quote> is the intro just exceptionally boring or something i just escaped the castle with estelle and went to some big wall with a horde of monsters and haven't since felt the urge to continue playing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 09/26/17 5:26:09 AM #12:	Mako_Sharknado posted... Kaliesto posted... I never played Versperia, but from what I understand the story is very good. Nah, actually. 's one'a the weakest in the series as far as story goes Yep but gameplay, and characters, were top notch. Yuri is one of the best jrpg protagonists ever --- http://i.imgur.com/23CCcZB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/32mwCo1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oqklqKC.jpg <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:887309598] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mako_Sharknado posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaliesto posted...</cite> <quote>I never played Versperia, but from what I understand the story is very good.</quote> Nah, actually. 's one'a the weakest in the series as far as story goes</quote> Yep but gameplay, and characters, were top notch. Yuri is one of the best jrpg protagonists ever</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DKFjalfe 09/26/17 8:29:49 AM #13:	They've been crap for years <cite>DKFjalfe posted [p:887313352] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>They've been crap for years</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 09/26/17 8:31:03 AM #14:	Still plenty of good ones if you look. --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:887313385] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>Still plenty of good ones if you look.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twinmold 09/26/17 8:38:01 AM #15:	The same quality they've always been, but with a lot more gross loli shit thrown in as more and more of the more "normal" audience leaves for Western games. --- Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain <cite>Twinmold posted [p:887313590] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>The same quality they've always been, but with a lot more gross loli shit thrown in as more and more of the more "normal" audience leaves for Western games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neverwin 09/26/17 8:43:14 AM #16:	Just avoid NiS stuff and you're golden. --- If you're so great then why do you corrupt those who are just as great? http://i.imgur.com/S0RN1.jpg <cite>neverwin posted [p:887313748] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>Just avoid NiS stuff and you're golden.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 09/26/17 8:43:46 AM #17:	One nice thing about being behind the times is I don't have to worry about the state of anything today. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:887313763] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>One nice thing about being behind the times is I don't have to worry about the state of anything today.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 09/26/17 8:43:50 AM #18:	neverwin posted... Just avoid NiS stuff and you're golden. Disgaea is awesome though --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:887313765] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>neverwin posted...</cite> <quote>Just avoid NiS stuff and you're golden.</quote> Disgaea is awesome though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darklit_Minuet 09/26/17 12:00:01 PM #20:	OpheliaAdenade posted... neverwin posted... Just avoid NiS stuff and you're golden. Disgaea is awesome though <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:887322579] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>neverwin posted...</cite> <quote>Just avoid NiS stuff and you're golden.</quote> Disgaea is awesome though</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 09/26/17 12:05:27 PM #21:	OpheliaAdenade posted... neverwin posted... Just avoid NiS stuff and you're golden. Disgaea is awesome though --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:887322866] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>neverwin posted...</cite> <quote>Just avoid NiS stuff and you're golden.</quote> Disgaea is awesome though</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HippopotamusRex 09/26/17 12:22:57 PM #23:	There's only so many times you can refight Baal in the post game before it gets old. Disgaea has a horrible habit of re-hashing the same post game and passing it off as cute because 'hey it's Baal again!" when it's not. It's stale. --- The Retro Hippo of the Retro Achievements http://retroachievements.org/User/HippopotamusRex <cite>HippopotamusRex posted [p:887323784] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>There's only so many times you can refight Baal in the post game before it gets old. Disgaea has a horrible habit of re-hashing the same post game and passing it off as cute because 'hey it's Baal again!" when it's not. It's stale.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 09/26/17 12:23:46 PM #24:	HippopotamusRex posted... There's only so many times you can refight Baal in the post game before it gets old. Disgaea has a horrible habit of re-hashing the same post game and passing it off as cute because 'hey it's Baal again!" when it's not. It's stale. Hey, sometimes it's Pringer X And sometimes it's 4 Baals at once And sometimes Baal becomes a Prinny Once Baal became a mushroom Shit's always changing <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:887323827] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>HippopotamusRex posted...</cite> <quote>There's only so many times you can refight Baal in the post game before it gets old. Disgaea has a horrible habit of re-hashing the same post game and passing it off as cute because 'hey it's Baal again!" when it's not. It's stale.</quote> Hey, sometimes it's Pringer X And sometimes it's 4 Baals at once And sometimes Baal becomes a Prinny Once Baal became a mushroom Shit's always changing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
specialkid8 09/26/17 12:24:43 PM #25:	Same as it's always been; garbage. <cite>specialkid8 posted [p:887323873] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>Same as it's always been; garbage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 09/26/17 12:25:26 PM #26:	Illuminoius posted... pres_madagascar posted... Vesperia is the intro just exceptionally boring or something i just escaped the castle with estelle and went to some big wall with a horde of monsters and haven't since felt the urge to continue playing All Tales games tend to start slow. Give it time, it'll pick up soon. You should've just gotten access to the skill system, which really opens up some fun things. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (1-2): https://i.imgur.com/6HFuomJ.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:887323914] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>Illuminoius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pres_madagascar posted...</cite> <quote>Vesperia</quote> is the intro just exceptionally boring or something i just escaped the castle with estelle and went to some big wall with a horde of monsters and haven't since felt the urge to continue playing</quote> All Tales games tend to start slow. Give it time, it'll pick up soon. You should've just gotten access to the skill system, which really opens up some fun things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOATSLAYER 09/26/17 12:26:48 PM #27:	specialkid8 posted... Same as it's always been; garbage. Good joke, blud --- Hide your kids, hide your goats <cite>GOATSLAYER posted [p:887323991] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>specialkid8 posted...</cite> <quote>Same as it's always been; garbage.</quote> Good joke, blud</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HippopotamusRex 09/26/17 12:29:56 PM #28:	Darklit_Minuet posted... HippopotamusRex posted... There's only so many times you can refight Baal in the post game before it gets old. Disgaea has a horrible habit of re-hashing the same post game and passing it off as cute because 'hey it's Baal again!" when it's not. It's stale. Hey, sometimes it's Pringer X And sometimes it's 4 Baals at once And sometimes Baal becomes a Prinny Once Baal became a mushroom Shit's always changing It never was Pringer X. Baal was after him when it was. When 90% of the gameplay is in the post game and there's no effort put in except "lol Baal" there's no incentive to actually care anymore. I personally burnt out after Baal in 4. Well we got five Baals in one fight in that one. Maybe they can give him an octoberfest hat or something in Disgaea 6 and people will eat that right up and pretend its different. They put effort into making a unique story but screw a unique effort for the post game since it's not like that's where the majority of the gameplay takes place or anything. --- The Retro Hippo of the Retro Achievements http://retroachievements.org/User/HippopotamusRex <cite>HippopotamusRex posted [p:887324166] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HippopotamusRex posted...</cite> <quote>There's only so many times you can refight Baal in the post game before it gets old. Disgaea has a horrible habit of re-hashing the same post game and passing it off as cute because 'hey it's Baal again!" when it's not. It's stale.</quote> Hey, sometimes it's Pringer X And sometimes it's 4 Baals at once And sometimes Baal becomes a Prinny Once Baal became a mushroom Shit's always changing</quote> It never was Pringer X. Baal was after him when it was. When 90% of the gameplay is in the post game and there's no effort put in except "lol Baal" there's no incentive to actually care anymore. I personally burnt out after Baal in 4. Well we got five Baals in one fight in that one. Maybe they can give him an octoberfest hat or something in Disgaea 6 and people will eat that right up and pretend its different. They put effort into making a unique story but screw a unique effort for the post game since it's not like that's where the majority of the gameplay takes place or anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Megaman50100 09/26/17 12:32:16 PM #29:	Atlus and Monolithsoft are carrying, Square Enix has been dropping the ball. Octopath Traveler has an awesome demo, fingers crossed that Square can keep it that way in a great final product but you can never be too sure with them lately. --- move all remaining groundhog mercenaries to the front lines. Have sheep troopers squadrons A and B flank the cows. They're using DC-17 hoof blasters. <cite>Megaman50100 posted [p:887324268] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>Atlus and Monolithsoft are carrying, Square Enix has been dropping the ball. Octopath Traveler has an awesome demo, fingers crossed that Square can keep it that way in a great final product but you can never be too sure with them lately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 09/26/17 12:34:10 PM #30:	HippopotamusRex posted... It never was Pringer X. Baal was after him when it was. When 90% of the gameplay is in the post game and there's no effort put in except "lol Baal" there's no incentive to actually care anymore. I personally burnt out after Baal in 4. Baal is a prerequisite for the final Pringer X battle in Disgaea 2 <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:887324374] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>HippopotamusRex posted...</cite> <quote>It never was Pringer X. Baal was after him when it was. When 90% of the gameplay is in the post game and there's no effort put in except "lol Baal" there's no incentive to actually care anymore. I personally burnt out after Baal in 4. </quote> Baal is a prerequisite for the final Pringer X battle in Disgaea 2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kirbymuncher 09/26/17 12:35:41 PM #31:	between the two tales games I've played (vesperia and xillia1), vesperia was very enjoyable and xillia1 was flat out awful. its only redeeming feature was the battle system being pretty good, but then the game was so laggy and a few select skills/artes were so broken that it basically negated the rest of the good parts of combat As for jrpgs in general 'm inclined to say quantity is down, especially if you're talking very classic-like jrpgs --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF <cite>kirbymuncher posted [p:887324447] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>between the two tales games I've played (vesperia and xillia1), vesperia was very enjoyable and xillia1 was flat out awful. its only redeeming feature was the battle system being pretty good, but then the game was so laggy and a few select skills/artes were so broken that it basically negated the rest of the good parts of combat As for jrpgs in general 'm inclined to say quantity is down, especially if you're talking very classic-like jrpgs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 09/26/17 12:35:56 PM #32:	tag for modern jrpg recommendations --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:887324466] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>tag for modern jrpg recommendations</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 09/26/17 12:37:32 PM #33:	they have become to pandering lately "we cant think of anything new or interesting to do so lets just make the boobs bigger and the costumes skimpier. that will get people to buy this game!" this year has actually had some great jrpgs so i hope this is an upward trend. rather than just a fluke tales of berseria and persona 5 were great. --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:887324565] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>they have become to pandering lately "we cant think of anything new or interesting to do so lets just make the boobs bigger and the costumes skimpier. that will get people to buy this game!" this year has actually had some great jrpgs so i hope this is an upward trend. rather than just a fluke tales of berseria and persona 5 were great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HippopotamusRex 09/26/17 12:37:46 PM #34:	Darklit_Minuet posted... HippopotamusRex posted... It never was Pringer X. Baal was after him when it was. When 90% of the gameplay is in the post game and there's no effort put in except "lol Baal" there's no incentive to actually care anymore. I personally burnt out after Baal in 4. Baal is a prerequisite for the final Pringer X battle in Disgaea 2 Pringer X isn't in Disgaea 2. You are most likely thinking of Prinny Baal. Which is Baal. Except skinned as a normal prinny. Surrounded by a pack of 4 regular Baals. That was the last fight in Disgaea 2. You could also kill Prinny Baal pirates which is just more Baal in the item world to make that Baal 8x stronger. The amount of 'not care' in that fight is astounding from a design standpoint. Imagine fighting a normal slime in Dragon Warrior because that's so hilarious as a superboss. How boring that would be. --- The Retro Hippo of the Retro Achievements http://retroachievements.org/User/HippopotamusRex <cite>HippopotamusRex posted [p:887324574] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HippopotamusRex posted...</cite> <quote>It never was Pringer X. Baal was after him when it was. When 90% of the gameplay is in the post game and there's no effort put in except "lol Baal" there's no incentive to actually care anymore. I personally burnt out after Baal in 4. </quote> Baal is a prerequisite for the final Pringer X battle in Disgaea 2</quote> Pringer X isn't in Disgaea 2. You are most likely thinking of Prinny Baal. Which is Baal. Except skinned as a normal prinny. Surrounded by a pack of 4 regular Baals. That was the last fight in Disgaea 2. You could also kill Prinny Baal pirates which is just more Baal in the item world to make that Baal 8x stronger. The amount of 'not care' in that fight is astounding from a design standpoint. Imagine fighting a normal slime in Dragon Warrior because that's so hilarious as a superboss. How boring that would be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 09/26/17 12:38:11 PM #35:	Feels just as high quality-wise, and I was about to say lower in the quantity aspect, but that's pretty high too tbh. Especially if you look to Vita and 3DS in addition to the consoles. It's just there's a lot more smaller and niche JRPGs now. Recently we have: Dragon Quest VII and VIII remade (plus IV - VI if you count DS) Dragon Quest X and XI Final Fantasy XIV, XV, World of, and remakes for X and XII Ni No Kuni 2 Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Trails of Cold Steel Trilogy Tails of Graces, Xillia, and Berseria Kingdom Hearts (ALL of them + KH3 next year) The Best Digimon JRPGs to ever releasE (Three of them at that) NieR Automata Ys SMT IV, A, and Redux Radiant Historia (modern day Chrono Trigger some say) Bravely Series Fire Emblem Xenoblade Series Monster Hunter Etrian Odyssey Disgaea series ^^^Those are just a few of my personal favorite or simply well regarded JRPGs released recently. Damn good list and I'm forgetting plenty of them. I think the problem people have with comparing them to past JRPGs is a mix of nostalgia and focusing on a handful and using those to represent a majority of older games. Obviously opinions exist, but the disparity is pretty minimal at best imo. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:887324592] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>Feels just as high quality-wise, and I was about to say lower in the quantity aspect, but that's pretty high too tbh. Especially if you look to Vita and 3DS in addition to the consoles. It's just there's a lot more smaller and niche JRPGs now. Recently we have: Dragon Quest VII and VIII remade (plus IV - VI if you count DS) Dragon Quest X and XI Final Fantasy XIV, XV, World of, and remakes for X and XII Ni No Kuni 2 Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Trails of Cold Steel Trilogy Tails of Graces, Xillia, and Berseria Kingdom Hearts (ALL of them + KH3 next year) The Best Digimon JRPGs to ever releasE (Three of them at that) NieR Automata Ys SMT IV, A, and Redux Radiant Historia (modern day Chrono Trigger some say) Bravely Series Fire Emblem Xenoblade Series Monster Hunter Etrian Odyssey Disgaea series ^^^Those are just a few of my personal favorite or simply well regarded JRPGs released recently. Damn good list and I'm forgetting plenty of them. I think the problem people have with comparing them to past JRPGs is a mix of nostalgia and focusing on a handful and using those to represent a majority of older games. Obviously opinions exist, but the disparity is pretty minimal at best imo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 09/26/17 12:39:31 PM #36:	Terra-enforcer posted... Final Fantasy XIV, XV, World of, and remakes for X and XII they remade FFX? was it any good? --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:887324659] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy XIV, XV, World of, and remakes for X and XII</quote> they remade FFX? was it any good?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 09/26/17 12:39:45 PM #37:	HippopotamusRex posted... Pringer X isn't in Disgaea 2. Literally http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/91597306697412010/605900C7A1B10B6ED2713D587908F37E4C2346A3/ <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:887324678] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>HippopotamusRex posted...</cite> <quote>Pringer X isn't in Disgaea 2. </quote> Literally http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/91597306697412010/605900C7A1B10B6ED2713D587908F37E4C2346A3/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fire_bolt 09/26/17 12:41:14 PM #38:	HippopotamusRex posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... HippopotamusRex posted... It never was Pringer X. Baal was after him when it was. When 90% of the gameplay is in the post game and there's no effort put in except "lol Baal" there's no incentive to actually care anymore. I personally burnt out after Baal in 4. Baal is a prerequisite for the final Pringer X battle in Disgaea 2 Pringer X isn't in Disgaea 2. You are most likely thinking of Prinny Baal. Which is Baal. Except skinned as a normal prinny. Surrounded by a pack of 4 regular Baals. That was the last fight in Disgaea 2. You could also kill Prinny Baal pirates which is just more Baal in the item world to make that Baal 8x stronger. The amount of 'not care' in that game is astounding from a design standpoint. Imagine fighting a normal slime in Dragon Warrior because that's so hilarious as a superboss. How boring that would be. FTFY --- If her hips don't break, you didn't "carry" hard enough" -SpunkySix http://steamcommunity.com/id/bolt_thundara/wishlist <cite>fire_bolt posted [p:887324748] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>HippopotamusRex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HippopotamusRex posted...</cite> <quote>It never was Pringer X. Baal was after him when it was. When 90% of the gameplay is in the post game and there's no effort put in except "lol Baal" there's no incentive to actually care anymore. I personally burnt out after Baal in 4. </quote> Baal is a prerequisite for the final Pringer X battle in Disgaea 2</quote> Pringer X isn't in Disgaea 2. You are most likely thinking of Prinny Baal. Which is Baal. Except skinned as a normal prinny. Surrounded by a pack of 4 regular Baals. That was the last fight in Disgaea 2. You could also kill Prinny Baal pirates which is just more Baal in the item world to make that Baal 8x stronger. The amount of 'not care' in that game is astounding from a design standpoint. Imagine fighting a normal slime in Dragon Warrior because that's so hilarious as a superboss. How boring that would be.</quote> FTFY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 09/26/17 12:41:18 PM #39:	Balrog0 posted... Terra-enforcer posted... Final Fantasy XIV, XV, World of, and remakes for X and XII they remade FFX? was it any good? Well, "remake" as in enhanced port with several additions. But yeah, it's great. XII's Zodiac Age iteration is what's really worth talking about. Ton of changes that make it feel completely different for those of us who played the original. JE19426 posted... Terra-enforcer posted... Dragon Quest VII and VIII remade (plus IV - VI if you count 3DS) IV-VI were remade on the DS not the 3DS. Was a typo. I thought it was pretty clear based on how I made the distinction that those three were separate from VII and VIII. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:887324751] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy XIV, XV, World of, and remakes for X and XII</quote> they remade FFX? was it any good?</quote> Well, "remake" as in enhanced port with several additions. But yeah, it's great. XII's Zodiac Age iteration is what's really worth talking about. Ton of changes that make it feel completely different for those of us who played the original. <cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>Dragon Quest VII and VIII remade (plus IV - VI if you count 3DS) </quote> IV-VI were remade on the DS not the 3DS.</quote> Was a typo. I thought it was pretty clear based on how I made the distinction that those three were separate from VII and VIII.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 09/26/17 12:41:18 PM #40:	Terra-enforcer posted... Dragon Quest VII and VIII remade (plus IV - VI if you count 3DS) IV-VI were remade on the DS not the 3DS. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:887324752] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>Dragon Quest VII and VIII remade (plus IV - VI if you count 3DS) </quote> IV-VI were remade on the DS not the 3DS.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HippopotamusRex 09/26/17 12:42:08 PM #41:	Darklit_Minuet posted... HippopotamusRex posted... Pringer X isn't in Disgaea 2. Literally http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/91597306697412010/605900C7A1B10B6ED2713D587908F37E4C2346A3/ I have no idea what port that is. But that's not in Disgaea 2. I guess you never played the original Disgaea 2. And how is this a good thing? Okay, they released Disgaea at some point and...they proceeded to do the exact same thing I just complained about. They rehashed a boss from D4 and put him in some new port of D2. --- The Retro Hippo of the Retro Achievements http://retroachievements.org/User/HippopotamusRex <cite>HippopotamusRex posted [p:887324792] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HippopotamusRex posted...</cite> <quote>Pringer X isn't in Disgaea 2. </quote> Literally http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/91597306697412010/605900C7A1B10B6ED2713D587908F37E4C2346A3/</quote> I have no idea what port that is. But that's not in Disgaea 2. I guess you never played the original Disgaea 2. And how is this a good thing? Okay, they released Disgaea at some point and...they proceeded to do the exact same thing I just complained about. They rehashed a boss from D4 and put him in some new port of D2.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 09/26/17 12:43:11 PM #42:	kirbymuncher posted... between the two tales games I've played (vesperia and xillia1), vesperia was very enjoyable and xillia1 was flat out awful. its only redeeming feature was the battle system being pretty good, but then the game was so laggy and a few select skills/artes were so broken that it basically negated the rest of the good parts of combat As for jrpgs in general 'm inclined to say quantity is down, especially if you're talking very classic-like jrpgs Tales of Symphonia is a good one to play if you can handle not having free run. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (1-2): https://i.imgur.com/6HFuomJ.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:887324849] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>kirbymuncher posted...</cite> <quote>between the two tales games I've played (vesperia and xillia1), vesperia was very enjoyable and xillia1 was flat out awful. its only redeeming feature was the battle system being pretty good, but then the game was so laggy and a few select skills/artes were so broken that it basically negated the rest of the good parts of combat As for jrpgs in general 'm inclined to say quantity is down, especially if you're talking very classic-like jrpgs</quote> Tales of Symphonia is a good one to play if you can handle not having free run.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 09/26/17 12:44:24 PM #43:	HippopotamusRex posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... HippopotamusRex posted... Pringer X isn't in Disgaea 2. Literally http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/91597306697412010/605900C7A1B10B6ED2713D587908F37E4C2346A3/ I have no idea what port that is. But that's not in Disgaea 2. I guess you never played the original Disgaea 2. And how is this a good thing? Okay, they released Disgaea at some point and...they proceeded to do the exact same thing I just complained about. They rehashed a boss from D4 and put him in some new port of D2. Nobody plays the original PS2 versions, fuck not being able to skip attack animations and speed up gameplay. The PSP version of Disgaea 2 predates Disgaea 4, so you're doing it backwards. Plus, the ultimate boss of Disgaea 5 is the final boss, not Baal. <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:887324919] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>HippopotamusRex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HippopotamusRex posted...</cite> <quote>Pringer X isn't in Disgaea 2. </quote> Literally http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/91597306697412010/605900C7A1B10B6ED2713D587908F37E4C2346A3/</quote> I have no idea what port that is. But that's not in Disgaea 2. I guess you never played the original Disgaea 2. And how is this a good thing? Okay, they released Disgaea at some point and...they proceeded to do the exact same thing I just complained about. They rehashed a boss from D4 and put him in some new port of D2.</quote> Nobody plays the original PS2 versions, fuck not being able to skip attack animations and speed up gameplay. The PSP version of Disgaea 2 predates Disgaea 4, so you're doing it backwards. Plus, the ultimate boss of Disgaea 5 is the final boss, not Baal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Megaman50100 09/26/17 12:44:35 PM #44:	Terra-enforcer posted... Well, "remake" as in enhanced port with several additions. But yeah, it's great. XII's Zodiac Age iteration is what's really worth talking about. Ton of changes that make it feel completely different for those of us who played the original. Zodiac Age's big changes were all mostly done a few years after XII's original release, in an international version that never released in NA. But definitely, Zodiac Age to OG XII is a massive improvement compared to X HD and OG X. --- move all remaining groundhog mercenaries to the front lines. Have sheep troopers squadrons A and B flank the cows. They're using DC-17 hoof blasters. <cite>Megaman50100 posted [p:887324928] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>Well, "remake" as in enhanced port with several additions. But yeah, it's great. XII's Zodiac Age iteration is what's really worth talking about. Ton of changes that make it feel completely different for those of us who played the original.</quote> Zodiac Age's big changes were all mostly done a few years after XII's original release, in an international version that never released in NA. But definitely, Zodiac Age to OG XII is a massive improvement compared to X HD and OG X.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HippopotamusRex 09/26/17 12:47:15 PM #45:	Darklit_Minuet posted... HippopotamusRex posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... HippopotamusRex posted... Pringer X isn't in Disgaea 2. Literally http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/91597306697412010/605900C7A1B10B6ED2713D587908F37E4C2346A3/ I have no idea what port that is. But that's not in Disgaea 2. I guess you never played the original Disgaea 2. And how is this a good thing? Okay, they released Disgaea at some point and...they proceeded to do the exact same thing I just complained about. They rehashed a boss from D4 and put him in some new port of D2. Nobody plays the original PS2 versions, fuck not being able to skip attack animations and speed up gameplay. The PSP version of Disgaea 2 predates Disgaea 4, so you're doing it backwards. Plus, the ultimate boss of Disgaea 5 is the final boss, not Baal. Interesting if that's true about Disgaea 5. I turned my back on the series after D2 because of this issue. If they keep that up, it may convince me to return. They need to do more of that and less goddamn Baal. --- The Retro Hippo of the Retro Achievements http://retroachievements.org/User/HippopotamusRex <cite>HippopotamusRex posted [p:887325061] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HippopotamusRex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HippopotamusRex posted...</cite> <quote>Pringer X isn't in Disgaea 2. </quote> Literally http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/91597306697412010/605900C7A1B10B6ED2713D587908F37E4C2346A3/</quote> I have no idea what port that is. But that's not in Disgaea 2. I guess you never played the original Disgaea 2. And how is this a good thing? Okay, they released Disgaea at some point and...they proceeded to do the exact same thing I just complained about. They rehashed a boss from D4 and put him in some new port of D2.</quote> Nobody plays the original PS2 versions, fuck not being able to skip attack animations and speed up gameplay. The PSP version of Disgaea 2 predates Disgaea 4, so you're doing it backwards. Plus, the ultimate boss of Disgaea 5 is the final boss, not Baal. </quote> Interesting if that's true about Disgaea 5. I turned my back on the series after D2 because of this issue. If they keep that up, it may convince me to return. They need to do more of that and less goddamn Baal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kirbymuncher 09/26/17 12:47:58 PM #46:	Muffinz0rz posted... Tales of Symphonia is a good one to play if you can handle not having free run. free run is basically the best thing ever I think we might try xillia2 next since xillia1 was apparently unfinished which sort of explains its quality and maybe the 2nd game will expand more on some stuff from the first. Plus everyone wants to try playing dante --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF <cite>kirbymuncher posted [p:887325096] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>Tales of Symphonia is a good one to play if you can handle not having free run. </quote> free run is basically the best thing ever I think we might try xillia2 next since xillia1 was apparently unfinished which sort of explains its quality and maybe the 2nd game will expand more on some stuff from the first. Plus everyone wants to try playing dante</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 09/26/17 12:50:19 PM #47:	The genre is basically dead. Persona 5 was great but other than that there hasn't been a great JRPG since the PS2 days imo --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:887325202] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote>The genre is basically dead. Persona 5 was great but other than that there hasn't been a great JRPG since the PS2 days imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 09/26/17 12:50:38 PM #48:	MC_BatCommander posted... The genre is basically dead. Persona 5 was great but other than that there hasn't been a great JRPG since the PS2 days imo Lol --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:887325223] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>The genre is basically dead. Persona 5 was great but other than that there hasn't been a great JRPG since the PS2 days imo</quote> Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 09/26/17 12:50:41 PM #49:	kirbymuncher posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Tales of Symphonia is a good one to play if you can handle not having free run. free run is basically the best thing ever I think we might try xillia2 next since xillia1 was apparently unfinished which sort of explains its quality and maybe the 2nd game will expand more on some stuff from the first. Plus everyone wants to try playing dante Make sure to try Graces. Best and most varied characters imo, Free run, and the best combo system pre-Xillia. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:887325226] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>kirbymuncher posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>Tales of Symphonia is a good one to play if you can handle not having free run. </quote> free run is basically the best thing ever I think we might try xillia2 next since xillia1 was apparently unfinished which sort of explains its quality and maybe the 2nd game will expand more on some stuff from the first. Plus everyone wants to try playing dante</quote> Make sure to try Graces. Best and most varied characters imo, Free run, and the best combo system pre-Xillia.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 09/26/17 12:52:03 PM #50:	HippopotamusRex posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... HippopotamusRex posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... HippopotamusRex posted... Pringer X isn't in Disgaea 2. Literally http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/91597306697412010/605900C7A1B10B6ED2713D587908F37E4C2346A3/ I have no idea what port that is. But that's not in Disgaea 2. I guess you never played the original Disgaea 2. And how is this a good thing? Okay, they released Disgaea at some point and...they proceeded to do the exact same thing I just complained about. They rehashed a boss from D4 and put him in some new port of D2. Nobody plays the original PS2 versions, fuck not being able to skip attack animations and speed up gameplay. The PSP version of Disgaea 2 predates Disgaea 4, so you're doing it backwards. Plus, the ultimate boss of Disgaea 5 is the final boss, not Baal. Interesting if that's true about Disgaea 5. I turned my back on the series after D2 because of this issue. If they keep that up, it may convince me to return. They need to do more of that and less goddamn Baal. D4 and D5 are really good games. D5 especially streamlined a lot of features. It has a free demo if you wanna check it out. Also HD SPRITES --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:887325298] in How do you... [t:75815266]...</cite> <quote><cite>HippopotamusRex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HippopotamusRex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HippopotamusRex posted...</cite> <quote>Pringer X isn't in Disgaea 2. </quote> Literally http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/91597306697412010/605900C7A1B10B6ED2713D587908F37E4C2346A3/</quote> I have no idea what port that is. But that's not in Disgaea 2. I guess you never played the original Disgaea 2. And how is this a good thing? Okay, they released Disgaea at some point and...they proceeded to do the exact same thing I just complained about. They rehashed a boss from D4 and put him in some new port of D2.</quote> Nobody plays the original PS2 versions, fuck not being able to skip attack animations and speed up gameplay. The PSP version of Disgaea 2 predates Disgaea 4, so you're doing it backwards. Plus, the ultimate boss of Disgaea 5 is the final boss, not Baal. </quote> Interesting if that's true about Disgaea 5. I turned my back on the series after D2 because of this issue. If they keep that up, it may convince me to return. They need to do more of that and less goddamn Baal.</quote> D4 and D5 are really good games. D5 especially streamlined a lot of features. It has a free demo if you wanna check it out. Also HD SPRITES</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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