Current Events > It's been fun watching this board turn into old fuddy duddies.

(+) Yeah! (+)

7 years ago, this board was so pro Obama and liberal.
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I would say this board is still more liberal and pro-obama than it is conservative...
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It's difficult to keep identifying as liberal when there's a distinct anti-intellectual element to a lot of liberal dialogue now.
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The main problem is now we have the FAR LEFT/sjws which "normal" liberals don't like and they (sjw) are very loud people...
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pinky0926 posted...

It's difficult to keep identifying as liberal when there's a distinct anti-intellectual element to a lot of liberal dialogue now.

"People who are against racist speech are anti-intellectual." -- @pinky0926

Alabaster_Wings posted...

pinky0926 posted...

It's difficult to keep identifying as liberal when there's a distinct anti-intellectual element to a lot of liberal dialogue now.

"People who are against racist speech are anti-intellectual." -- @pinky0926

See this is exactly what I'm talking about, like clockwork. My comment had no particular context to it but you went and imagined some all by yourself.
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pinky0926 posted...

It's difficult to keep identifying as liberal when there's a distinct anti-intellectual element to a lot of liberal dialogue now.

I love it when you try to sound rational but it's obvious you have a narrative of your own.
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Dustin1280 posted...

The main problem is now we have the FAR LEFT/sjws which "normal" liberals don't like and they (sjw) are very loud people...

"The problem is Red Hats have done a very good job cherry picking man-hating posts from tumblr blogs and I was gullible enough to fall for it." -- @Dustin1280

Alabaster_Wings posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

The main problem is now we have the FAR LEFT/sjws which "normal" liberals don't like and they (sjw) are very loud people...

"The problem is Red Hats have done a very good job cherry picking man-hating posts from tumblr blogs and I was gullible enough to fall for it." -- @Dustin1280

I really hope you are just trying to be ironic and trolling for affect. Because this type of post would make you a prime example.

You made up your own narrative for what my comment meant and assumed it to be true.

Edit:
Oh

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pinky0926 posted...

See this is exactly what I'm talking about, like clockwork. My comment had no particular context to it but you went and imagined some all by yourself.

XD what other context is there this week?

Veggeta X posted...

pinky0926 posted...

It's difficult to keep identifying as liberal when there's a distinct anti-intellectual element to a lot of liberal dialogue now.

I love it when you try to sound rational but it's obvious you have a narrative of your own.

What a meaningless statement this. Yes, I have many of my own opinions.
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Alabaster_Wings posted...

pinky0926 posted...

See this is exactly what I'm talking about, like clockwork. My comment had no particular context to it but you went and imagined some all by yourself.

XD what other context is there this week?

I haven't been on CE all week so you'll have to enlighten me.
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Dustin1280 posted...

Alabaster_Wings posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

The main problem is now we have the FAR LEFT/sjws which "normal" liberals don't like and they (sjw) are very loud people...

"The problem is Red Hats have done a very good job cherry picking man-hating posts from tumblr blogs and I was gullible enough to fall for it." -- @Dustin1280

I really hope you are just trying to be ironic and trolling for affect. Because this type of post would make you a prime example.

You made up your own narrative for what my comment meant and assumed it to be true.

"I don't like to be called out on my bullshit, so now my definition of SJW includes people who call me out on my bullshit." -- Dustin1280

pinky0926 posted...

It's difficult to keep identifying as liberal when there's a distinct anti-intellectual element to a lot of liberal dialogue now.

Can of worms.
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Alabaster_Wings posted...

"I don't like to be called out on my bullshit, so now my definition of SJW includes people who call me out on my bullshit." -- Dustin1280

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all that needs to be said to ignore everything you say. Your foolish posts just confirm that...
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Meh, I've become more leftist with age, not less.

CE was never actually liberal leaning, the board was always well to the right on racial issues and moderate on everything else.
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Dustin1280 posted...

Alabaster_Wings posted...

"I don't like to be called out on my bullshit, so now my definition of SJW includes people who call me out on my bullshit." -- Dustin1280

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all that needs to be said to ignore everything you say. Your foolish posts just confirm that...

Ain't trolling, just sick and tired of fair weather liberals who only decide social and economic justice are important when It's popular, and the second they start to feel social pressure in the opposite direction they conform to bogus narratives that run in the opposite direction. You really feel like your world is under threat from anti-intellectual SJW's who are just crawling out of the woodwork and taking over everything? News flash, the world's way more under threat from people like the 45% of this board who want to normalize racism and legalize discrimination.

GregShmedley posted...

Rightists are viewed as hateful, disgusting Nazis, leftists viewed as emotionally fragile virtue signalers. There is hardly any grey area in politically dialogue anymore, both on social media and in person.

ding ding ding

The flanderization of political parties is pretty disgusting all round really.
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pinky0926 posted...

What a meaningless statement this. Yes, I have many of my own opinions.

Hey man I understand you because most of my posts are also transparent.
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What does the age of posters have to do with politics? It's blatantly apparent that no matter age many of CE's posters have no problem shit posting about politics. I mean it's happening in this thread and we haven't even made it to page 2.
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only fuddy duddies use the term "fuddy duddy"
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Except he didn't say that until called out for it lmao.
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Alabaster_Wings posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

Alabaster_Wings posted...

"I don't like to be called out on my bullshit, so now my definition of SJW includes people who call me out on my bullshit." -- Dustin1280

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all that needs to be said to ignore everything you say. Your foolish posts just confirm that...

Ain't trolling, just sick and tired of fair weather liberals who only decide social and economic justice are important when It's popular, and the second they start to feel social pressure in the opposite direction they conform to bogus narratives that run in the opposite direction. You really feel like your world is under threat from anti-intellectual SJW's who are just crawling out of the woodwork and taking over everything? News flash, the world's way more under threat from people like the 45% of this board who want to normalize racism and legalize discrimination.

Because you actually gave me what seems like a semi serious response, I will respond to you once.

Dustin1280 posted...

The main problem is now we have the FAR LEFT/sjws which "normal" liberals don't like and they (sjw) are very loud people...

This is what I said, if you were to interpret it properly w/o putting your own agenda spin on it then you would realize the only thing I said is the FAR LEFT/SJWS exist and they tend to be loud. How exactly does that have ANYTHING to do with "manhating posts by redhats specifically.?"

You made up your own storyline based on your agenda or hate of "fair weather liberals" and immediately assumed I was one.
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Oooooooo I am the SJW ghost oooooooo

I am coming to turn white dudes into second class citizens and turn your children one of 53 different genders oooooooo!

Don't vote for liberals or I'll haunt you forever oooooooooooooo!

<The SJW ghost is actually a man in a Klan outfit wearing a white hood and rubbing his hands together in anticipation>

Alabaster_Wings posted...

Oooooooo I am the SJW ghost oooooooo

I am coming to turn white dudes into second class citizens and turn your children one of 53 different genders oooooooo!

Don't vote for liberals or I'll haunt you forever oooooooooooooo!

<The SJW ghost is actually a man in a Klan outfit wearing a white hood and rubbing his hands together in anticipation>

Now you are spouting nonsense again and acting like the imbecile I already assumed you were ignoring basically everything i said.

So yeah you are a prime example, and I'm done responding to your nonsense.
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Alabaster_Wings posted...

Oooooooo I am the SJW ghost oooooooo

I am coming to turn white dudes into second class citizens and turn your children one of 53 different genders oooooooo!

Don't vote for liberals or I'll haunt you forever oooooooooooooo!

<The SJW ghost is actually a man in a Klan outfit wearing a white hood and rubbing his hands together in anticipation>

The SJW ghost is actually a real archetypal person. Say, the type that haunts topics like this with arguments that can be summed up with "if you make any sort of criticism of liberal politics you are obviously a racist".

Which is a shame because racism is alive and well but fellas like yourself are doing your best work to trivialise it.
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ElatedVenusaur posted...

Meh, I've become more leftist with age, not less.

me too
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Dustin1280 posted...

This is what I said, if you were to interpret it properly w/o putting your own agenda spin on it then you would realize the only thing I said is the FAR LEFT/SJWS exist and they tend to be loud. How exactly does that have ANYTHING to do with "manhating posts by redhats specifically.?"

You made up your own storyline based on your agenda or hate of "fair weather liberals" and immediately assumed I was one.

Come on dude you're more clever than this. The "far left/SJW's" as you call them aren't anymore loud than they ever were, the Red Hats are just cherry picking their shit and shoving in your face to get you to believe they are. Why do you think Mal_Fet makes a weekly SJW topic here? To radicalized even more gullible fools to his way of thinking for POLITICAL advantage.

Also ain't nothing wrong with being far left, Bernie 2020 \m/

Pinky has never once posted anything derogatory in regards to partisan politics and look how what he said is instantly taken out of context and he is attacked.

Basically just proved what he was saying.
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Alabaster_Wings posted...

Come on dude you're more clever than this. The "far left/SJW's" as you call them aren't anymore loud than they ever were, the Red Hats are just cherry picking their shit and shoving in your face to get you to believe they are. Why do you think Mal_Fet makes a weekly SJW topic here? To radicalized even more gullible fools to his way of thinking for POLITICAL advantage.

Also ain't nothing wrong with being far left, Bernie 2020 \m/

Are we to assume that any criticism of liberal politics must come from a redhat, then?
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HypnoCoosh posted...

Pinky has never once posted anything derogatory in regards to partisan politics and look how what he said is instantly taken out of context and he is attacked.

Basically just proved what he was saying.

Well extremist on both sides are awful. The amount of time they spend trying to smooth over their preferred party's mistakes, all the while shitting on the other side for the same things they do is downright mind boggling.
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pinky0926 posted...

The SJW ghost is actually a real archetypal person. Say, the type that haunts topics like this with arguments that can be summed up with "if you make any sort of criticism of liberal politics you are obviously a racist".

I didn't say you couldn't criticize, and where do you get off calling me a SJW or an SJW ghost just cuz I'm calling you out? You say your shit don't stink, I disagree, so I'm a SJW? XD

You seem to be making a pretty anti-intellectual argument tbh, you sure it's not you with the problem?

What's wrong with social justice anyway?

pinky0926 posted...

Are we to assume that any criticism of liberal politics must come from a redhat, then?

Yes that's how it works.

Either your part of the echo chamber hive mind or you are the enemy.

It's even more ridiculous that everyone is now a "red hat" if you have a differing opinion.
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I love the "leftists are as bad as the Alt Right" circle jerk now days
MLK wasn't lying about the "moderate" and how they are as dangerous to democracy as actual hard Righters.
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pinky0926 posted...

Are we to assume that any criticism of liberal politics must come from a redhat, then?

You didn't criticize any liberal policies, you made a vacuous hasty generalization, which is a logical fallacy. If you bothered to make a cogent argument instead of defaulting to "I would still be a liberal but UGH sjw's," then I wouldn't have called you out for getting duped by a Red Hat marketing gimmick.

coolboy11 posted...

I love the "leftists are as bad as the Alt Right" circle jerk now days
MLK wasn't lying about the "moderate" and how they are as dangerous to democracy as actual hard Righters.

I don't think you need to be a moderate to be against this antifa stuff, although I also wouldn't equate them to neonazis or anything

of course, I am both white and a moderate in many ways especially economically so I guess that's something you'd expect me to say
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HypnoCoosh posted...

Yes that's how it works.

Either your part of the echo chamber hive mind or you are the enemy.

It's even more ridiculous that everyone is now a "red hat" if you have a differing opinion.

You literally think an actual neo nazi march resulting in death was a "false flag operation by the far left liberals". You go beyond having a differing opinion and into the realm of delusion when you start spouting utter bullshit like that.
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coolboy11 posted...

I love the "leftists are as bad as the Alt Right" circle jerk now days
MLK wasn't lying about the "moderate" and how they are as dangerous to democracy as actual hard Righters.

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Alabaster_Wings posted...

I didn't say you couldn't criticize, and where do you get off calling me a SJW or an SJW ghost just cuz I'm calling you out? You say your shit don't stink, I disagree, so I'm a SJW? XD

What are you calling me out for, exactly? Do you even know yourself, or was it just comforting to think that I was sitting here with a MAGA hat, with /r/The_Donald on my quicktabs favourites list, and that I think that teh libruls are ruining America?

It's funny because anyone familiar with my posting would know that I'm about as SJW as it gets on CE. My point is that you were far too quick to assume, and that's the problem with a lot of liberals at the moment. Putting people in boxes before they've even opened their mouths.

You really came across in this topic like the archetypal SJW boogeyman that redhats always assume is every liberal, as demonstrated by your very first post in this topic.
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coolboy11 posted...

I love the "leftists are as bad as the Alt Right" circle jerk now days
MLK wasn't lying about the "moderate" and how they are as dangerous to democracy as actual hard Righters.

A lot of people take comfort from being moderate, they think it makes them sensible. The moderates in the 1960s who thought black people just needed to stay home and leave white businesses in peace instead of blocking roads and staging sit ins weren't right then either.

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What are you calling me out for, exactly? Do you even know yourself, or was it just comforting to think that I was sitting here with a MAGA hat, with /r/The_Donald on my quicktabs favourites list, and that I think that teh libruls are ruining America?

I never called you a Red Hat, I called you a fair weather liberal. If you don't want people to put that kind of box around you, don't come into a topic like this made by a conservative poster, spouting Red Hat propaganda about SJW's and apologizing for those of us who are actually PROUD to stand up for social justice.

Alabaster_Wings posted...

You didn't criticize any liberal policies, you made a vacuous hasty generalization, which is a logical fallacy. If you bothered to make a cogent argument instead of defaulting to "I would still be a liberal but UGH sjw's," then I wouldn't have called you out for getting duped by a Red Hat marketing gimmick.

And rather than consider my comment and ask me to elaborate on what I meant by it, you simply assumed what it meant and made up the rest. I mean it's unfair to think someone doesn't have an argument simply because they haven't made one yet. What I gave you was an opinion, not a fully fledged debate platform.

Let's revisit it then. My "vacuous hasty generalization" was actually a pretty tempered comment. I said: "It's difficult to keep identifying as liberal when there's a distinct anti-intellectual element to a lot of liberal dialogue now."

Meaning: I keep identifying as a liberal, but it can be difficult sometimes as a lot of liberal dialogue (but not all or even most) is littered with anti-intellectual trash talk. In particular I think there's a strain of the liberal left that wants to do away with dialogue altogether, that is unwilling to disassociate certain values with other values, and that puts everyone on the other side of the fence into all the same box.
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My point is that you were far too quick to assume, and that's the problem with a lot of liberals at the moment. Putting people in boxes before they've even opened their mouths.

Coming from the guy who just unironically called liberals "anti-intellectuals." Conservatives really need to stop projecting.

inb4 the conservative battle cry of, "I'm not a conservative!"
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Twinmold posted...

My point is that you were far too quick to assume, and that's the problem with a lot of liberals at the moment. Putting people in boxes before they've even opened their mouths.

Coming from the guy who just unironically called liberals "anti-intellectuals." Conservatives really need to stop projecting.

inb4 the conservative battle cry of, "I'm not a conservative!"

No, what I said is that there was a distinct anti-intellectual element to a lot of liberal dialogue now. Nothing here says liberals are anti-intellectual. Nothing here says I'm not a liberal either, it's strange that people keep assuming that.

I mean you guys are doing a grand job of proving my point without me even really needing to elaborate on it, when I can say what amounts to "some liberals need to chill the hell out and be more sensible about stuff", and your reaction is to presume I'm a redhat, that I'm ok with hate speech, that I'm throwing out the baby with the bathwater, etc.

Seriously, just chill for a second. It's ok to be critical of your own party.
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pinky0926 posted...

Meaning: I keep identifying as a liberal, but it can be difficult sometimes as a lot of liberal dialogue (but not all or even most) is littered with anti-intellectual trash talk. In particular I think there's a strain of the liberal left that wants to do away with dialogue altogether, that is unwilling to disassociate certain values with other values, and that puts everyone on the other side of the fence into all the same box.

Yeah dude, there's a "stain" on the liberal left that thinks racists shouldn't be given a microphone to make the world an even worse place, what awful anti-intellectual people they are. Also 75% of Republicans wouldn't admit Obama was born in America dude, I'm not gonna refrain from drawing a fucking box around those people and calling them deplorable.

evosthunder posted...

coolboy11 posted...

I love the "leftists are as bad as the Alt Right" circle jerk now days
MLK wasn't lying about the "moderate" and how they are as dangerous to democracy as actual hard Righters.

Don't forget Malcom X's Fox and Wolf comparisons, Liberals buried that pretty well though smh
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Alabaster_Wings posted...

Yeah dude, there's a "stain" on the liberal left that thinks racists shouldn't be given a microphone to make the world an even worse place, what awful anti-intellectual people they are. Also 75% of Republicans wouldn't admit Obama was born in America dude, I'm not gonna refrain from drawing a fucking box around those people and calling them deplorable.

From which orifice did you pull this very specific social issue and stamp my entire argument with it?

I mean somehow you took what I said and inferred "pinky is saying we should give nazis a platform". That's really incredible of you. No really, I'm impressed by your quantum leaps here.
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