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De Evolution 09/26/17 5:56:07 PM #51:	Sayoria posted... tl;dr: If you don't support, you are the problem. Plain and simple. Guess I'm the problem then you arrogant and deranged little snowflake. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:887343812] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote> tl;dr: If you don't support, you are the problem. Plain and simple.</quote> Guess I'm the problem then you arrogant and deranged little snowflake.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 09/26/17 5:56:15 PM #52:	--- Sweet dreams are made of cheese Who am I to diss a brie? <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:887343819] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 09/26/17 5:57:17 PM #53:	De Evolution posted... Guess I'm the problem then Absolutely. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:887343875] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>De Evolution posted...</cite> <quote>Guess I'm the problem then </quote> Absolutely.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 09/26/17 5:57:29 PM #54:	De Evolution posted... Sayoria posted... tl;dr: If you don't support, you are the problem. Plain and simple. Guess I'm the problem then you arrogant and deranged little snowflake. Hey, if a bunch of us can ruin your day, then let there be a snowstorm. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:887343892] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>De Evolution posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote> tl;dr: If you don't support, you are the problem. Plain and simple.</quote> Guess I'm the problem then you arrogant and deranged little snowflake.</quote> Hey, if a bunch of us can ruin your day, then let there be a snowstorm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 09/26/17 6:04:21 PM #55:	Bloodychess posted... No bias there. - She has to go though rigorous gates in order to get hormones for her kid. - Doctors will not start hormone blockers until 11-12 years of age. The actual hormone therapy stars at age 16, and eligibility for surgery stars at 18. - Stating it as "I want a vagina" is the most blunt form on propaganda to your argument you could use. Kids that age might say they want to be a girl, but really? "vagina"? Tell me that isn't reaching. You guys are sad. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:887344299] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodychess posted...</cite> <quote></quote> No bias there. - She has to go though rigorous gates in order to get hormones for her kid. - Doctors will not start hormone blockers until 11-12 years of age. The actual hormone therapy stars at age 16, and eligibility for surgery stars at 18. - Stating it as "I want a vagina" is the most blunt form on propaganda to your argument you could use. Kids that age might say they want to be a girl, but really? "vagina"? Tell me that isn't reaching. You guys are sad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 09/26/17 6:04:47 PM #56:	Sayoria posted... De Evolution posted... Sayoria posted... tl;dr: If you don't support, you are the problem. Plain and simple. Guess I'm the problem then you arrogant and deranged little snowflake. Hey, if a bunch of us can ruin your day, then let there be a snowstorm. You can't ruin my day. I don't give a fuck about people being gay or transgender. I live in one of the gayest cities in America, hang out with gays all the time, and a trans chick used to have a crush on me. What bothers me is the victimhood bullshit you guys play when people don't cheerlead your lifestyle and decisions. I condone you I don't promote you. But when someone doesn't promote you or cosign what you're saying you turn around and call it bigotry. I personally don't care if people are gay or trans it hurts me in zero ways mentally, physically or emotionally. However that doesn't mean I promote or celebrate it. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:887344323] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>De Evolution posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote> tl;dr: If you don't support, you are the problem. Plain and simple.</quote> Guess I'm the problem then you arrogant and deranged little snowflake.</quote> Hey, if a bunch of us can ruin your day, then let there be a snowstorm.</quote> You can't ruin my day. I don't give a fuck about people being gay or transgender. I live in one of the gayest cities in America, hang out with gays all the time, and a trans chick used to have a crush on me. What bothers me is the victimhood bullshit you guys play when people don't cheerlead your lifestyle and decisions. I condone you I don't promote you. But when someone doesn't promote you or cosign what you're saying you turn around and call it bigotry. I personally don't care if people are gay or trans it hurts me in zero ways mentally, physically or emotionally. However that doesn't mean I promote or celebrate it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seneca_Wallace_ 09/26/17 6:05:16 PM #57:	Virus731 posted... Sayoria posted... Oh yes, we kill ourselves because it is directly of hate of ourselves and not the fact that we are kicked out of our families, forced homeless, face job discrimination, face harassment and more. It's all because we hate ourselves and the outside battle with society actually helps us want to live more. You are so out of fucking touch. ok have fun with that victim syndrome hi Cody --- Seattle Seahawks: Super Bowl XLVIII CHAMPS! GO HAWKS! Formerly known as BlueMenace84 <cite>Seneca_Wallace_ posted [p:887344356] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Virus731 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Oh yes, we kill ourselves because it is directly of hate of ourselves and not the fact that we are kicked out of our families, forced homeless, face job discrimination, face harassment and more. It's all because we hate ourselves and the outside battle with society actually helps us want to live more. You are so out of fucking touch. </quote> ok have fun with that victim syndrome</quote> hi Cody</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 09/26/17 6:11:33 PM #58:	Seems like the kind of thing that should be studied. If only to give a more complete set of data on the issue. If you only pay attention to people who approve of the surgery, you're going to get an inaccurate picture of reality. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac <cite>Esrac posted [p:887344731] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote>Seems like the kind of thing that should be studied. If only to give a more complete set of data on the issue. If you only pay attention to people who approve of the surgery, you're going to get an inaccurate picture of reality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 09/26/17 6:12:03 PM #59:	De Evolution posted... Sayoria posted... De Evolution posted... Sayoria posted... tl;dr: If you don't support, you are the problem. Plain and simple. Guess I'm the problem then you arrogant and deranged little snowflake. Hey, if a bunch of us can ruin your day, then let there be a snowstorm. You can't ruin my day. I don't give a fuck about people being gay or transgender. I live in one of the gayest cities in America, hang out with gays all the time, and a trans chick used to have a crush on me. What bothers me is the victimhood bullshit you guys play when people don't cheerlead your lifestyle and decisions. I condone you I don't promote you. But when someone doesn't promote you or cosign what you're saying you turn around and call it bigotry. I personally don't care if people are gay or trans it hurts me in zero ways mentally, physically or emotionally. However that doesn't mean I promote or celebrate it. I never call anyone bigots. Ever. Just like I never call anyone "cis".....shivers The fact is, trans youth are killing themselves because society doesn't accept them. They can't go to a prom in a dress? They cannot use the women's room? Issues like this not just scar them, but even in the case of bathrooms, inconvenience them. You don't have to "promote it".... you can easily ignore it. The fact of the matter is, there are assholes out there who egg on these teens who simply cannot live how they want because their parents are against the idea of being transgender. Push the parental rejection with the societal rejection and what reason is there to live? Who loves you? Who respects you? Who will let you simply be yourself? It seems like the world is against you. That's when the dark thoughts come. Not everyone is a villain. Those who ignore the whole transgender issue itself aren't villains. Those who support aren't villains. It is the ones who egg the shit on. If you are one of those people, then yes, you are the problem. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:887344765] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>De Evolution posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>De Evolution posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote> tl;dr: If you don't support, you are the problem. Plain and simple.</quote> Guess I'm the problem then you arrogant and deranged little snowflake.</quote> Hey, if a bunch of us can ruin your day, then let there be a snowstorm.</quote> You can't ruin my day. I don't give a fuck about people being gay or transgender. I live in one of the gayest cities in America, hang out with gays all the time, and a trans chick used to have a crush on me. What bothers me is the victimhood bullshit you guys play when people don't cheerlead your lifestyle and decisions. I condone you I don't promote you. But when someone doesn't promote you or cosign what you're saying you turn around and call it bigotry. I personally don't care if people are gay or trans it hurts me in zero ways mentally, physically or emotionally. However that doesn't mean I promote or celebrate it.</quote> I never call anyone bigots. Ever. Just like I never call anyone "cis".....shivers The fact is, trans youth are killing themselves because society doesn't accept them. They can't go to a prom in a dress? They cannot use the women's room? Issues like this not just scar them, but even in the case of bathrooms, inconvenience them. You don't have to "promote it".... you can easily ignore it. The fact of the matter is, there are assholes out there who egg on these teens who simply cannot live how they want because their parents are against the idea of being transgender. Push the parental rejection with the societal rejection and what reason is there to live? Who loves you? Who respects you? Who will let you simply be yourself? It seems like the world is against you. That's when the dark thoughts come. Not everyone is a villain. Those who ignore the whole transgender issue itself aren't villains. Those who support aren't villains. It is the ones who egg the shit on. If you are one of those people, then yes, you are the problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 09/26/17 6:15:27 PM #60:	Sayoria posted... society doesn't accept them. No shit. It's complete and utter deviancy from the norm that goes against nature, instinct, and biology. That being said, I will continue ignoring y'all. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:887344953] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote> society doesn't accept them. </quote> No shit. It's complete and utter deviancy from the norm that goes against nature, instinct, and biology. That being said, I will continue ignoring y'all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 09/26/17 6:18:24 PM #62:	De Evolution posted... Sayoria posted... society doesn't accept them. No shit. It's complete and utter deviancy from the norm that goes against nature, instinct, and biology. That being said, I will continue ignoring y'all. Good, ignore us. That's what we want. I want at least. Leave issues with what I am and what I do alone. Simple. thelovefist posted... No doubt that it is a tragic contributing factor. I don't think you can hand wave away though what is a likely another significant contributing factor - mental instability. Well, sure. But that isn't a trait that comes from simply being transgender. Many trans people are unstable.... but not all trans people are unstable. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:887345137] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>De Evolution posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote> society doesn't accept them. </quote> No shit. It's complete and utter deviancy from the norm that goes against nature, instinct, and biology. That being said, I will continue ignoring y'all.</quote> Good, ignore us. That's what we want. I want at least. Leave issues with what I am and what I do alone. Simple. <cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote> No doubt that it is a tragic contributing factor. I don't think you can hand wave away though what is a likely another significant contributing factor - mental instability.</quote> Well, sure. But that isn't a trait that comes from simply being transgender. Many trans people are unstable.... but not all trans people are unstable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 09/26/17 6:18:51 PM #63:	Sayoria posted... Pepys Monster posted... Sayoria posted... Too bad TC. I'm getting the surgery in May. You going to stop me? Nobody can stop you, but you'll wish someone did. Not really. I see no plus sides of having a penis with the way I see myself. Would I prefer a medication or therapy that could change my feelings on this? No, because I believe I am who I am. Letting us get the surgery impacts no one's lives but our own (and spouses if we have them) .... and people really need to butt their noses out of it. Changing our thoughts on the matter or anything like that is practically brainwashing us into being who we aren't.... and if that were to ever be the case for me, I'm probably off myself there and then. I'd go kicking and screaming until the opportunity were to arise. Do you believe mental illness is real, in any capacity? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:887345171] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Too bad TC. I'm getting the surgery in May. You going to stop me?</quote> Nobody can stop you, but you'll wish someone did.</quote> Not really. I see no plus sides of having a penis with the way I see myself. Would I prefer a medication or therapy that could change my feelings on this? No, because I believe I am who I am. Letting us get the surgery impacts no one's lives but our own (and spouses if we have them) .... and people really need to butt their noses out of it. Changing our thoughts on the matter or anything like that is practically brainwashing us into being who we aren't.... and if that were to ever be the case for me, I'm probably off myself there and then. I'd go kicking and screaming until the opportunity were to arise.</quote> Do you believe mental illness is real, in any capacity?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 09/26/17 6:19:17 PM #64:	IfGodCouldDie posted... Sayoria posted... Pepys Monster posted... Sayoria posted... Too bad TC. I'm getting the surgery in May. You going to stop me? Nobody can stop you, but you'll wish someone did. Not really. I see no plus sides of having a penis with the way I see myself. Would I prefer a medication or therapy that could change my feelings on this? No, because I believe I am who I am. Letting us get the surgery impacts no one's lives but our own (and spouses if we have them) .... and people really need to butt their noses out of it. Changing our thoughts on the matter or anything like that is practically brainwashing us into being who we aren't.... and if that were to ever be the case for me, I'm probably off myself there and then. I'd go kicking and screaming until the opportunity were to arise. Do you believe mental illness is real, in any capacity? Yes I do. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:887345196] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Too bad TC. I'm getting the surgery in May. You going to stop me?</quote> Nobody can stop you, but you'll wish someone did.</quote> Not really. I see no plus sides of having a penis with the way I see myself. Would I prefer a medication or therapy that could change my feelings on this? No, because I believe I am who I am. Letting us get the surgery impacts no one's lives but our own (and spouses if we have them) .... and people really need to butt their noses out of it. Changing our thoughts on the matter or anything like that is practically brainwashing us into being who we aren't.... and if that were to ever be the case for me, I'm probably off myself there and then. I'd go kicking and screaming until the opportunity were to arise.</quote> Do you believe mental illness is real, in any capacity?</quote> Yes I do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 09/26/17 6:20:03 PM #65:	De Evolution posted... Guess I'm the problem then you arrogant and deranged little snowflake. Ya think??? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:887345244] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>De Evolution posted...</cite> <quote>Guess I'm the problem then you arrogant and deranged little snowflake.</quote> Ya think???</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 09/26/17 6:24:05 PM #66:	Sayoria posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... Sayoria posted... Pepys Monster posted... Sayoria posted... Too bad TC. I'm getting the surgery in May. You going to stop me? Nobody can stop you, but you'll wish someone did. Not really. I see no plus sides of having a penis with the way I see myself. Would I prefer a medication or therapy that could change my feelings on this? No, because I believe I am who I am. Letting us get the surgery impacts no one's lives but our own (and spouses if we have them) .... and people really need to butt their noses out of it. Changing our thoughts on the matter or anything like that is practically brainwashing us into being who we aren't.... and if that were to ever be the case for me, I'm probably off myself there and then. I'd go kicking and screaming until the opportunity were to arise. Do you believe mental illness is real, in any capacity? Yes I do. Ok, so what makes you so certain that what you experience isn't a form of mental illness? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:887345482] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Too bad TC. I'm getting the surgery in May. You going to stop me?</quote> Nobody can stop you, but you'll wish someone did.</quote> Not really. I see no plus sides of having a penis with the way I see myself. Would I prefer a medication or therapy that could change my feelings on this? No, because I believe I am who I am. Letting us get the surgery impacts no one's lives but our own (and spouses if we have them) .... and people really need to butt their noses out of it. Changing our thoughts on the matter or anything like that is practically brainwashing us into being who we aren't.... and if that were to ever be the case for me, I'm probably off myself there and then. I'd go kicking and screaming until the opportunity were to arise.</quote> Do you believe mental illness is real, in any capacity?</quote> Yes I do.</quote> Ok, so what makes you so certain that what you experience isn't a form of mental illness?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 09/26/17 6:25:30 PM #67:	IfGodCouldDie posted... Sayoria posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... Sayoria posted... Pepys Monster posted... Sayoria posted... Too bad TC. I'm getting the surgery in May. You going to stop me? Nobody can stop you, but you'll wish someone did. Not really. I see no plus sides of having a penis with the way I see myself. Would I prefer a medication or therapy that could change my feelings on this? No, because I believe I am who I am. Letting us get the surgery impacts no one's lives but our own (and spouses if we have them) .... and people really need to butt their noses out of it. Changing our thoughts on the matter or anything like that is practically brainwashing us into being who we aren't.... and if that were to ever be the case for me, I'm probably off myself there and then. I'd go kicking and screaming until the opportunity were to arise. Do you believe mental illness is real, in any capacity? Yes I do. Ok, so what makes you so certain that what you experience isn't a form of mental illness? Of course there is in the "taking action" aspect of it. It has nothing to do with being transgender directly. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:887345549] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Too bad TC. I'm getting the surgery in May. You going to stop me?</quote> Nobody can stop you, but you'll wish someone did.</quote> Not really. I see no plus sides of having a penis with the way I see myself. Would I prefer a medication or therapy that could change my feelings on this? No, because I believe I am who I am. Letting us get the surgery impacts no one's lives but our own (and spouses if we have them) .... and people really need to butt their noses out of it. Changing our thoughts on the matter or anything like that is practically brainwashing us into being who we aren't.... and if that were to ever be the case for me, I'm probably off myself there and then. I'd go kicking and screaming until the opportunity were to arise.</quote> Do you believe mental illness is real, in any capacity?</quote> Yes I do.</quote> Ok, so what makes you so certain that what you experience isn't a form of mental illness?</quote> Of course there is in the "taking action" aspect of it. It has nothing to do with being transgender directly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NurseRedHeart 09/26/17 6:26:21 PM #68:	Science should be unbiased, fuck these SJWs --- http://tinyurl.com/z8cf8o6 / http://tinyurl.com/jpq5l8j / http://tinyurl.com/z9y449e \ ( ' w ') / - Ah yiss! <cite>NurseRedHeart posted [p:887345596] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote>Science should be unbiased, fuck these SJWs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 09/26/17 6:26:52 PM #69:	darkjedilink posted... Suicide and depression mostly comes from the fact that society takes a shit on us. Nope During slavery and 1900s you didn't see slaves etc killing themselves. They were treated far worse and still wanted to live. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:887345628] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Suicide and depression mostly comes from the fact that society takes a shit on us. </quote> Nope During slavery and 1900s you didn't see slaves etc killing themselves. They were treated far worse and still wanted to live.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 09/26/17 6:26:53 PM #70:	Sayoria posted... Of course there is in the "taking action" aspect of it. It has nothing to do with being transgender directly. Sorry, I don't understand how that relates to what I asked. Can you please rephrase it. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:887345629] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Of course there is in the "taking action" aspect of it. It has nothing to do with being transgender directly.</quote> Sorry, I don't understand how that relates to what I asked. Can you please rephrase it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 09/26/17 6:27:55 PM #71:	refmon posted... darkjedilink posted... Suicide and depression mostly comes from the fact that society takes a shit on us. Nope During slavery and 1900s you didn't see slaves etc killing themselves. They were treated far worse and still wanted to live. JFC.... --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:887345684] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>refmon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Suicide and depression mostly comes from the fact that society takes a shit on us. </quote> Nope During slavery and 1900s you didn't see slaves etc killing themselves. They were treated far worse and still wanted to live.</quote> JFC....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NurseRedHeart 09/26/17 6:34:15 PM #72:	Pepys Monster posted... Sayoria posted... Too bad TC. I'm getting the surgery in May. You going to stop me? Nobody can stop you, but you'll wish someone did. --- http://tinyurl.com/z8cf8o6 / http://tinyurl.com/jpq5l8j / http://tinyurl.com/z9y449e \ ( ' w ') / - Ah yiss! <cite>NurseRedHeart posted [p:887346020] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Too bad TC. I'm getting the surgery in May. You going to stop me?</quote> Nobody can stop you, but you'll wish someone did.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NurseRedHeart 09/26/17 6:35:20 PM #73:	OpheliaAdenade posted... That does concern me too. There do seem to be more and more people regretting their choices after the fact. For female to male that can be reversed, but after the snip snip that penis is gone forever. --- http://tinyurl.com/z8cf8o6 / http://tinyurl.com/jpq5l8j / http://tinyurl.com/z9y449e \ ( ' w ') / - Ah yiss! <cite>NurseRedHeart posted [p:887346078] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote>That does concern me too. There do seem to be more and more people regretting their choices after the fact. For female to male that can be reversed, but after the snip snip that penis is gone forever.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NurseRedHeart 09/26/17 6:37:45 PM #74:	Sayoria posted... OpheliaAdenade posted... That does concern me too. There do seem to be more and more people regretting their choices after the fact. For female to male that can be reversed, but after the snip snip that penis is gone forever. Biological women never had penises. I don't see them killing themselves. Just because I do and at the time, will-have-had, that doesn't mean anything. Suicide and depression mostly comes from the fact that society takes a shit on us. You expect society to be ok with your choices. --- http://tinyurl.com/z8cf8o6 / http://tinyurl.com/jpq5l8j / http://tinyurl.com/z9y449e \ ( ' w ') / - Ah yiss! <cite>NurseRedHeart posted [p:887346196] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote>That does concern me too. There do seem to be more and more people regretting their choices after the fact. For female to male that can be reversed, but after the snip snip that penis is gone forever.</quote> Biological women never had penises. I don't see them killing themselves. Just because I do and at the time, will-have-had, that doesn't mean anything. Suicide and depression mostly comes from the fact that society takes a shit on us.</quote> You expect society to be ok with your choices.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 09/26/17 6:37:47 PM #75:	Yeah the 'more and more people' thing is still being pulled from your asses. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:887346199] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote>Yeah the 'more and more people' thing is still being pulled from your asses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 09/26/17 6:40:04 PM #76:	NurseRedHeart posted... You expect society to be ok with your choices. Yes they expect basic human respect and to use their proper pronouns. And not to discriminate against them. Not asking a lot. After that, well, they'll still call out bigotry and denounce hatred, but ultimately being left alone will suffice. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:887346343] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>NurseRedHeart posted...</cite> <quote>You expect society to be ok with your choices.</quote> Yes they expect basic human respect and to use their proper pronouns. And not to discriminate against them. Not asking a lot. After that, well, they'll still call out bigotry and denounce hatred, but ultimately being left alone will suffice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 09/26/17 6:41:33 PM #77:	IfGodCouldDie posted... Sayoria posted... Of course there is in the "taking action" aspect of it. It has nothing to do with being transgender directly. Sorry, I don't understand how that relates to what I asked. Can you please rephrase it. I'm speaking on the topic of suicide. If you mean based on what "I" am dealing with, I will admit I have my problems mentally, yes. I have a learning disability. I have a very short-term memory. However, knowing who I am is not one of them. I have sat down and thought about who I am and what I have wanted for a course of 10+ years. I approached everything logically. In 2007, I got a job and banked money to seek help. 2009, I was fired from my job. I fell into a depression and broke out of it a few years later when I realized I was transgender. Came out to my family and got the support I needed. I saw my PCP and he was proud of me. He claimed that what I am about to do is something that takes a lot of course and dedication to do.... and I knew that. He referred me to people I needed and I proved my case to them. The thing is, I am not blinded by my own world. I know the difference from fiction and reality. I know that what I will get is not a real vagina. I know that I was born to a male body. I know that I cannot and will not be able to birth a child... but I am fine with all of that. The thing is, I'm not just "jumping into" this. I have given myself a lot.....a LOT of time and there's nothing I don't know about myself. I'll say this right now. Could I live with a penis? Well, yes. Sure, I wouldn't kill myself having to do so, but my life would be no better. I have absolutely no use for a penis. This is my choice because I feel simply that I am not of my desired sex and would like to have my body replicate my desired sex as far as I can go. When I think of finding a mate, I think of having someone and taking the female role sexually. Vaginally. What is so wrong with that? Why is it so wrong for me to want this? Again, I have thought it all out and sure, I am not depressed or suicidal by any means, but my sexual interest and desire of romance demand this of me. I see myself different from a typical trans woman though. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:887346438] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Of course there is in the "taking action" aspect of it. It has nothing to do with being transgender directly.</quote> Sorry, I don't understand how that relates to what I asked. Can you please rephrase it.</quote> I'm speaking on the topic of suicide. If you mean based on what "I" am dealing with, I will admit I have my problems mentally, yes. I have a learning disability. I have a very short-term memory. However, knowing who I am is not one of them. I have sat down and thought about who I am and what I have wanted for a course of 10+ years. I approached everything logically. In 2007, I got a job and banked money to seek help. 2009, I was fired from my job. I fell into a depression and broke out of it a few years later when I realized I was transgender. Came out to my family and got the support I needed. I saw my PCP and he was proud of me. He claimed that what I am about to do is something that takes a lot of course and dedication to do.... and I knew that. He referred me to people I needed and I proved my case to them. The thing is, I am not blinded by my own world. I know the difference from fiction and reality. I know that what I will get is not a real vagina. I know that I was born to a male body. I know that I cannot and will not be able to birth a child... but I am fine with all of that. The thing is, I'm not just "jumping into" this. I have given myself a lot.....a LOT of time and there's nothing I don't know about myself. I'll say this right now. Could I live with a penis? Well, yes. Sure, I wouldn't kill myself having to do so, but my life would be no better. I have absolutely no use for a penis. This is my choice because I feel simply that I am not of my desired sex and would like to have my body replicate my desired sex as far as I can go. When I think of finding a mate, I think of having someone and taking the female role sexually. Vaginally. What is so wrong with that? Why is it so wrong for me to want this? Again, I have thought it all out and sure, I am not depressed or suicidal by any means, but my sexual interest and desire of romance demand this of me. I see myself different from a typical trans woman though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 09/26/17 6:42:39 PM #78:	NurseRedHeart posted... Sayoria posted... OpheliaAdenade posted... That does concern me too. There do seem to be more and more people regretting their choices after the fact. For female to male that can be reversed, but after the snip snip that penis is gone forever. Biological women never had penises. I don't see them killing themselves. Just because I do and at the time, will-have-had, that doesn't mean anything. Suicide and depression mostly comes from the fact that society takes a shit on us. You expect society to be ok with your choices. How about this? Society can just ignore my choices. There, everyone is happy. I am forcing nothing on you, and you are leaving me alone. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:887346514] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>NurseRedHeart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote>That does concern me too. There do seem to be more and more people regretting their choices after the fact. For female to male that can be reversed, but after the snip snip that penis is gone forever.</quote> Biological women never had penises. I don't see them killing themselves. Just because I do and at the time, will-have-had, that doesn't mean anything. Suicide and depression mostly comes from the fact that society takes a shit on us.</quote> You expect society to be ok with your choices.</quote> How about this? Society can just ignore my choices. There, everyone is happy. I am forcing nothing on you, and you are leaving me alone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NurseRedHeart 09/26/17 6:45:57 PM #79:	Sir Will posted... NurseRedHeart posted... You expect society to be ok with your choices. Yes they expect basic human respect and to use their proper pronouns. And not to discriminate against them. Not asking a lot. After that, well, they'll still call out bigotry and denounce hatred, but ultimately being left alone will suffice. What's your opinion on smokers? Drug users? Convicted rapists? --- http://tinyurl.com/z8cf8o6 / http://tinyurl.com/jpq5l8j / http://tinyurl.com/z9y449e \ ( ' w ') / - Ah yiss! <cite>NurseRedHeart posted [p:887346720] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NurseRedHeart posted...</cite> <quote>You expect society to be ok with your choices.</quote> Yes they expect basic human respect and to use their proper pronouns. And not to discriminate against them. Not asking a lot. After that, well, they'll still call out bigotry and denounce hatred, but ultimately being left alone will suffice.</quote> What's your opinion on smokers? Drug users? Convicted rapists?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/26/17 6:46:32 PM #80:	Sayoria posted... No bias there. - She has to go though rigorous gates in order to get hormones for her kid. - Doctors will not start hormone blockers until 11-12 years of age. The actual hormone therapy stars at age 16, and eligibility for surgery stars at 18. - Stating it as "I want a vagina" is the most blunt form on propaganda to your argument you could use. Kids that age might say they want to be a girl, but really? "vagina"? Tell me that isn't reaching. You guys are sad. Imagine that. This post was ignored for the millionth time in the millionth trans topic. Can't let pesky facts get in the way of screaming about liberal parents getting a doctor to chop off their 5 year old son's penis (this slippery slope will happen any day now!), or how more and more trans people are just inherently mentally unstable due to their condition and will be even more crazy if they transition. Where would be be without crying about SJW fee fees with little more than factless emotional appeals? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:887346756] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>No bias there. - She has to go though rigorous gates in order to get hormones for her kid. - Doctors will not start hormone blockers until 11-12 years of age. The actual hormone therapy stars at age 16, and eligibility for surgery stars at 18. - Stating it as "I want a vagina" is the most blunt form on propaganda to your argument you could use. Kids that age might say they want to be a girl, but really? "vagina"? Tell me that isn't reaching. You guys are sad.</quote> Imagine that. This post was ignored for the millionth time in the millionth trans topic. Can't let pesky facts get in the way of screaming about liberal parents getting a doctor to chop off their 5 year old son's penis (this slippery slope will happen any day now!), or how more and more trans people are just inherently mentally unstable due to their condition and will be even more crazy if they transition. Where would be be without crying about SJW fee fees with little more than factless emotional appeals?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/26/17 6:48:43 PM #81:	NurseRedHeart posted... Sir Will posted... NurseRedHeart posted... You expect society to be ok with your choices. Yes they expect basic human respect and to use their proper pronouns. And not to discriminate against them. Not asking a lot. After that, well, they'll still call out bigotry and denounce hatred, but ultimately being left alone will suffice. What's your opinion on smokers? Drug users? Convicted rapists? It is pretty disingenuous to compare trans people and drug users to rapists. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:887346890] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>NurseRedHeart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NurseRedHeart posted...</cite> <quote>You expect society to be ok with your choices.</quote> Yes they expect basic human respect and to use their proper pronouns. And not to discriminate against them. Not asking a lot. After that, well, they'll still call out bigotry and denounce hatred, but ultimately being left alone will suffice.</quote> What's your opinion on smokers? Drug users? Convicted rapists?</quote> It is pretty disingenuous to compare trans people and drug users to rapists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarameIDistress 09/26/17 6:51:04 PM #82:	I've only looked through a brief section of this but I kinda understand the TC. Sayoria, he's not against specific trans people doing the surgery. Like he's not mad about you. It's about the fundamental ceasing of ideas. --- performs C_Pain dance of alt How quaint. <cite>CarameIDistress posted [p:887347014] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote>I've only looked through a brief section of this but I kinda understand the TC. Sayoria, he's not against specific trans people doing the surgery. Like he's not mad about you. It's about the fundamental ceasing of ideas.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 09/26/17 6:52:53 PM #83:	hockeybub89 posted... Sayoria posted... No bias there. - She has to go though rigorous gates in order to get hormones for her kid. - Doctors will not start hormone blockers until 11-12 years of age. The actual hormone therapy stars at age 16, and eligibility for surgery stars at 18. - Stating it as "I want a vagina" is the most blunt form on propaganda to your argument you could use. Kids that age might say they want to be a girl, but really? "vagina"? Tell me that isn't reaching. You guys are sad. Imagine that. This post was ignored for the millionth time in the millionth trans topic. Can't let pesky facts get in the way of screaming about liberal parents getting a doctor to chop off their 5 year old son's penis (this slippery slope will happen any day now!), or how more and more trans people are just inherently mentally unstable due to their condition and will be even more crazy if they transition. Where would be be without crying about SJW fee fees with little more than factless emotional appeals? You came into a topic about suppressing research into the field and thought the best way to get your point across was to attack the facts we have on the subject. Did that seem like a smart course of action in your head? --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:887347109] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>No bias there. - She has to go though rigorous gates in order to get hormones for her kid. - Doctors will not start hormone blockers until 11-12 years of age. The actual hormone therapy stars at age 16, and eligibility for surgery stars at 18. - Stating it as "I want a vagina" is the most blunt form on propaganda to your argument you could use. Kids that age might say they want to be a girl, but really? "vagina"? Tell me that isn't reaching. You guys are sad.</quote> Imagine that. This post was ignored for the millionth time in the millionth trans topic. Can't let pesky facts get in the way of screaming about liberal parents getting a doctor to chop off their 5 year old son's penis (this slippery slope will happen any day now!), or how more and more trans people are just inherently mentally unstable due to their condition and will be even more crazy if they transition. Where would be be without crying about SJW fee fees with little more than factless emotional appeals?</quote> You came into a topic about suppressing research into the field and thought the best way to get your point across was to attack the facts we have on the subject. Did that seem like a smart course of action in your head?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 09/26/17 6:54:45 PM #84:	CarameIDistress posted... I've only looked through a brief section of this but I kinda understand the TC. Sayoria, he's not against specific trans people doing the surgery. Like he's not mad about you. It's about the fundamental ceasing of ideas. As am I. I believe that for us to better as a society, people need to be heard. The issue is, we too, need to be heard. Those against us refuse to ever accept the idea that maybe, just maybe some of us are actually fine the way we are. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:887347212] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>CarameIDistress posted...</cite> <quote>I've only looked through a brief section of this but I kinda understand the TC. Sayoria, he's not against specific trans people doing the surgery. Like he's not mad about you. It's about the fundamental ceasing of ideas.</quote> As am I. I believe that for us to better as a society, people need to be heard. The issue is, we too, need to be heard. Those against us refuse to ever accept the idea that maybe, just maybe some of us are actually fine the way we are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/26/17 7:00:16 PM #85:	Zeeak4444 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Sayoria posted... No bias there. - She has to go though rigorous gates in order to get hormones for her kid. - Doctors will not start hormone blockers until 11-12 years of age. The actual hormone therapy stars at age 16, and eligibility for surgery stars at 18. - Stating it as "I want a vagina" is the most blunt form on propaganda to your argument you could use. Kids that age might say they want to be a girl, but really? "vagina"? Tell me that isn't reaching. You guys are sad. Imagine that. This post was ignored for the millionth time in the millionth trans topic. Can't let pesky facts get in the way of screaming about liberal parents getting a doctor to chop off their 5 year old son's penis (this slippery slope will happen any day now!), or how more and more trans people are just inherently mentally unstable due to their condition and will be even more crazy if they transition. Where would be be without crying about SJW fee fees with little more than factless emotional appeals? You came into a topic about suppressing research into the field and thought the best way to get your point across was to attack the facts we have on the subject. Did that seem like a smart course of action in your head? Attack the facts? I am highlighting a post of facts that responded to a bullshit emotional appeal that pops up in every trans topic. A response that is always ignored. I wasn't responding to the OP, but a later exchange. I don't agree with suppression, but the only reason anyone here is up in arms is because they really want said research to prove their point. They will plug their ears about everything that disagrees with the view they want, but now cry about suppression and ignoring truth. If this research happens and does not conclude most trans people regret their decision and are just insane, then the "truth squad" will suddenly get very quiet. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:887347540] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>No bias there. - She has to go though rigorous gates in order to get hormones for her kid. - Doctors will not start hormone blockers until 11-12 years of age. The actual hormone therapy stars at age 16, and eligibility for surgery stars at 18. - Stating it as "I want a vagina" is the most blunt form on propaganda to your argument you could use. Kids that age might say they want to be a girl, but really? "vagina"? Tell me that isn't reaching. You guys are sad.</quote> Imagine that. This post was ignored for the millionth time in the millionth trans topic. Can't let pesky facts get in the way of screaming about liberal parents getting a doctor to chop off their 5 year old son's penis (this slippery slope will happen any day now!), or how more and more trans people are just inherently mentally unstable due to their condition and will be even more crazy if they transition. Where would be be without crying about SJW fee fees with little more than factless emotional appeals?</quote> You came into a topic about suppressing research into the field and thought the best way to get your point across was to attack the facts we have on the subject. Did that seem like a smart course of action in your head?</quote> Attack the facts? I am highlighting a post of facts that responded to a bullshit emotional appeal that pops up in every trans topic. A response that is always ignored. I wasn't responding to the OP, but a later exchange. I don't agree with suppression, but the only reason anyone here is up in arms is because they really want said research to prove their point. They will plug their ears about everything that disagrees with the view they want, but now cry about suppression and ignoring truth. If this research happens and does not conclude most trans people regret their decision and are just insane, then the "truth squad" will suddenly get very quiet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 09/26/17 7:02:06 PM #86:	Ulyanyx posted... Sayoria posted... OpheliaAdenade posted... That does concern me too. There do seem to be more and more people regretting their choices after the fact. For female to male that can be reversed, but after the snip snip that penis is gone forever. Biological women never had penises. I don't see them killing themselves. Just because I do and at the time, will-have-had, that doesn't mean anything. Suicide and depression mostly comes from the fact that society takes a shit on us. i believe you're wrong in your outrage here, and this should be researched, if anything it can help people who transition and still have doubts. Why would anyone transition if they still have doubts? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:887347638] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ulyanyx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote>That does concern me too. There do seem to be more and more people regretting their choices after the fact. For female to male that can be reversed, but after the snip snip that penis is gone forever.</quote> Biological women never had penises. I don't see them killing themselves. Just because I do and at the time, will-have-had, that doesn't mean anything. Suicide and depression mostly comes from the fact that society takes a shit on us.</quote> i believe you're wrong in your outrage here, and this should be researched, if anything it can help people who transition and still have doubts.</quote> Why would anyone transition if they still have doubts?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 09/26/17 7:02:25 PM #87:	hockeybub89 posted... Zeeak4444 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Sayoria posted... No bias there. - She has to go though rigorous gates in order to get hormones for her kid. - Doctors will not start hormone blockers until 11-12 years of age. The actual hormone therapy stars at age 16, and eligibility for surgery stars at 18. - Stating it as "I want a vagina" is the most blunt form on propaganda to your argument you could use. Kids that age might say they want to be a girl, but really? "vagina"? Tell me that isn't reaching. You guys are sad. Imagine that. This post was ignored for the millionth time in the millionth trans topic. Can't let pesky facts get in the way of screaming about liberal parents getting a doctor to chop off their 5 year old son's penis (this slippery slope will happen any day now!), or how more and more trans people are just inherently mentally unstable due to their condition and will be even more crazy if they transition. Where would be be without crying about SJW fee fees with little more than factless emotional appeals? You came into a topic about suppressing research into the field and thought the best way to get your point across was to attack the facts we have on the subject. Did that seem like a smart course of action in your head? Attack the facts? I am highlighting a post of facts that responded to a bullshit emotional appeal that pops up in every trans topic. A response that is always ignored. I wasn't responding to the OP, but a later exchange. I get that and I agree with portions of what you said but you still decided on some poor wording considering what the topic is actually about. With context it was a poor choice. Without context it makes you look really stupid TBH. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:887347650] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>No bias there. - She has to go though rigorous gates in order to get hormones for her kid. - Doctors will not start hormone blockers until 11-12 years of age. The actual hormone therapy stars at age 16, and eligibility for surgery stars at 18. - Stating it as "I want a vagina" is the most blunt form on propaganda to your argument you could use. Kids that age might say they want to be a girl, but really? "vagina"? Tell me that isn't reaching. You guys are sad.</quote> Imagine that. This post was ignored for the millionth time in the millionth trans topic. Can't let pesky facts get in the way of screaming about liberal parents getting a doctor to chop off their 5 year old son's penis (this slippery slope will happen any day now!), or how more and more trans people are just inherently mentally unstable due to their condition and will be even more crazy if they transition. Where would be be without crying about SJW fee fees with little more than factless emotional appeals?</quote> You came into a topic about suppressing research into the field and thought the best way to get your point across was to attack the facts we have on the subject. Did that seem like a smart course of action in your head?</quote> Attack the facts? I am highlighting a post of facts that responded to a bullshit emotional appeal that pops up in every trans topic. A response that is always ignored. I wasn't responding to the OP, but a later exchange.</quote> I get that and I agree with portions of what you said but you still decided on some poor wording considering what the topic is actually about. With context it was a poor choice. Without context it makes you look really stupid TBH.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 09/26/17 7:20:23 PM #89:	Sayoria posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... Sayoria posted... Of course there is in the "taking action" aspect of it. It has nothing to do with being transgender directly. Sorry, I don't understand how that relates to what I asked. Can you please rephrase it. I'm speaking on the topic of suicide. If you mean based on what "I" am dealing with, I will admit I have my problems mentally, yes. I have a learning disability. I have a very short-term memory. However, knowing who I am is not one of them. I have sat down and thought about who I am and what I have wanted for a course of 10+ years. I approached everything logically. In 2007, I got a job and banked money to seek help. 2009, I was fired from my job. I fell into a depression and broke out of it a few years later when I realized I was transgender. Came out to my family and got the support I needed. I saw my PCP and he was proud of me. He claimed that what I am about to do is something that takes a lot of course and dedication to do.... and I knew that. He referred me to people I needed and I proved my case to them. The thing is, I am not blinded by my own world. I know the difference from fiction and reality. I know that what I will get is not a real vagina. I know that I was born to a male body. I know that I cannot and will not be able to birth a child... but I am fine with all of that. The thing is, I'm not just "jumping into" this. I have given myself a lot.....a LOT of time and there's nothing I don't know about myself. I'll say this right now. Could I live with a penis? Well, yes. Sure, I wouldn't kill myself having to do so, but my life would be no better. I have absolutely no use for a penis. This is my choice because I feel simply that I am not of my desired sex and would like to have my body replicate my desired sex as far as I can go. When I think of finding a mate, I think of having someone and taking the female role sexually. Vaginally. What is so wrong with that? Why is it so wrong for me to want this? Again, I have thought it all out and sure, I am not depressed or suicidal by any means, but my sexual interest and desire of romance demand this of me. I see myself different from a typical trans woman though. Fair enough. I do not personally know what you are going through and doubt I ever will, I ask these questions out of ignorance in hopes that I can be enlightened. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:887348589] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Of course there is in the "taking action" aspect of it. It has nothing to do with being transgender directly.</quote> Sorry, I don't understand how that relates to what I asked. Can you please rephrase it.</quote> I'm speaking on the topic of suicide. If you mean based on what "I" am dealing with, I will admit I have my problems mentally, yes. I have a learning disability. I have a very short-term memory. However, knowing who I am is not one of them. I have sat down and thought about who I am and what I have wanted for a course of 10+ years. I approached everything logically. In 2007, I got a job and banked money to seek help. 2009, I was fired from my job. I fell into a depression and broke out of it a few years later when I realized I was transgender. Came out to my family and got the support I needed. I saw my PCP and he was proud of me. He claimed that what I am about to do is something that takes a lot of course and dedication to do.... and I knew that. He referred me to people I needed and I proved my case to them. The thing is, I am not blinded by my own world. I know the difference from fiction and reality. I know that what I will get is not a real vagina. I know that I was born to a male body. I know that I cannot and will not be able to birth a child... but I am fine with all of that. The thing is, I'm not just "jumping into" this. I have given myself a lot.....a LOT of time and there's nothing I don't know about myself. I'll say this right now. Could I live with a penis? Well, yes. Sure, I wouldn't kill myself having to do so, but my life would be no better. I have absolutely no use for a penis. This is my choice because I feel simply that I am not of my desired sex and would like to have my body replicate my desired sex as far as I can go. When I think of finding a mate, I think of having someone and taking the female role sexually. Vaginally. What is so wrong with that? Why is it so wrong for me to want this? Again, I have thought it all out and sure, I am not depressed or suicidal by any means, but my sexual interest and desire of romance demand this of me. I see myself different from a typical trans woman though.</quote> Fair enough. I do not personally know what you are going through and doubt I ever will, I ask these questions out of ignorance in hopes that I can be enlightened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 09/26/17 7:20:48 PM #90:	Aeriis posted... Go you, Sayoria! That's why you're one of my favorite posters. I imagine trans people wouldn't be so suicidal if they were treated as equals by their families and society. Thanks Hermii. You are one of my faves too! :D --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:887348609] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Aeriis posted...</cite> <quote>Go you, Sayoria! That's why you're one of my favorite posters. I imagine trans people wouldn't be so suicidal if they were treated as equals by their families and society.</quote> Thanks Hermii. You are one of my faves too! :D</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 09/26/17 7:22:46 PM #91:	IfGodCouldDie posted... Sayoria posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... Sayoria posted... Of course there is in the "taking action" aspect of it. It has nothing to do with being transgender directly. Sorry, I don't understand how that relates to what I asked. Can you please rephrase it. I'm speaking on the topic of suicide. If you mean based on what "I" am dealing with, I will admit I have my problems mentally, yes. I have a learning disability. I have a very short-term memory. However, knowing who I am is not one of them. I have sat down and thought about who I am and what I have wanted for a course of 10+ years. I approached everything logically. In 2007, I got a job and banked money to seek help. 2009, I was fired from my job. I fell into a depression and broke out of it a few years later when I realized I was transgender. Came out to my family and got the support I needed. I saw my PCP and he was proud of me. He claimed that what I am about to do is something that takes a lot of course and dedication to do.... and I knew that. He referred me to people I needed and I proved my case to them. The thing is, I am not blinded by my own world. I know the difference from fiction and reality. I know that what I will get is not a real vagina. I know that I was born to a male body. I know that I cannot and will not be able to birth a child... but I am fine with all of that. The thing is, I'm not just "jumping into" this. I have given myself a lot.....a LOT of time and there's nothing I don't know about myself. I'll say this right now. Could I live with a penis? Well, yes. Sure, I wouldn't kill myself having to do so, but my life would be no better. I have absolutely no use for a penis. This is my choice because I feel simply that I am not of my desired sex and would like to have my body replicate my desired sex as far as I can go. When I think of finding a mate, I think of having someone and taking the female role sexually. Vaginally. What is so wrong with that? Why is it so wrong for me to want this? Again, I have thought it all out and sure, I am not depressed or suicidal by any means, but my sexual interest and desire of romance demand this of me. I see myself different from a typical trans woman though. Fair enough. I do not personally know what you are going through and doubt I ever will, I ask these questions out of ignorance in hopes that I can be enlightened. I am the kind of person who would rather enlighten through my own experiences than anything else. If you are genuinely curious about anything, I'll answer if you ARE genuinely curious. By this, I mean I am typically an open book to those I believe what to actually get answers and are afraid of others snapping or feeling offended about it. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:887348723] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Of course there is in the "taking action" aspect of it. It has nothing to do with being transgender directly.</quote> Sorry, I don't understand how that relates to what I asked. Can you please rephrase it.</quote> I'm speaking on the topic of suicide. If you mean based on what "I" am dealing with, I will admit I have my problems mentally, yes. I have a learning disability. I have a very short-term memory. However, knowing who I am is not one of them. I have sat down and thought about who I am and what I have wanted for a course of 10+ years. I approached everything logically. In 2007, I got a job and banked money to seek help. 2009, I was fired from my job. I fell into a depression and broke out of it a few years later when I realized I was transgender. Came out to my family and got the support I needed. I saw my PCP and he was proud of me. He claimed that what I am about to do is something that takes a lot of course and dedication to do.... and I knew that. He referred me to people I needed and I proved my case to them. The thing is, I am not blinded by my own world. I know the difference from fiction and reality. I know that what I will get is not a real vagina. I know that I was born to a male body. I know that I cannot and will not be able to birth a child... but I am fine with all of that. The thing is, I'm not just "jumping into" this. I have given myself a lot.....a LOT of time and there's nothing I don't know about myself. I'll say this right now. Could I live with a penis? Well, yes. Sure, I wouldn't kill myself having to do so, but my life would be no better. I have absolutely no use for a penis. This is my choice because I feel simply that I am not of my desired sex and would like to have my body replicate my desired sex as far as I can go. When I think of finding a mate, I think of having someone and taking the female role sexually. Vaginally. What is so wrong with that? Why is it so wrong for me to want this? Again, I have thought it all out and sure, I am not depressed or suicidal by any means, but my sexual interest and desire of romance demand this of me. I see myself different from a typical trans woman though.</quote> Fair enough. I do not personally know what you are going through and doubt I ever will, I ask these questions out of ignorance in hopes that I can be enlightened.</quote> I am the kind of person who would rather enlighten through my own experiences than anything else. If you are genuinely curious about anything, I'll answer if you ARE genuinely curious. By this, I mean I am typically an open book to those I believe what to actually get answers and are afraid of others snapping or feeling offended about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/26/17 7:25:58 PM #92:	Zeeak4444 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Zeeak4444 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Sayoria posted... No bias there. - She has to go though rigorous gates in order to get hormones for her kid. - Doctors will not start hormone blockers until 11-12 years of age. The actual hormone therapy stars at age 16, and eligibility for surgery stars at 18. - Stating it as "I want a vagina" is the most blunt form on propaganda to your argument you could use. Kids that age might say they want to be a girl, but really? "vagina"? Tell me that isn't reaching. You guys are sad. Imagine that. This post was ignored for the millionth time in the millionth trans topic. Can't let pesky facts get in the way of screaming about liberal parents getting a doctor to chop off their 5 year old son's penis (this slippery slope will happen any day now!), or how more and more trans people are just inherently mentally unstable due to their condition and will be even more crazy if they transition. Where would be be without crying about SJW fee fees with little more than factless emotional appeals? You came into a topic about suppressing research into the field and thought the best way to get your point across was to attack the facts we have on the subject. Did that seem like a smart course of action in your head? Attack the facts? I am highlighting a post of facts that responded to a bullshit emotional appeal that pops up in every trans topic. A response that is always ignored. I wasn't responding to the OP, but a later exchange. I get that and I agree with portions of what you said but you still decided on some poor wording considering what the topic is actually about. With context it was a poor choice. Without context it makes you look really stupid TBH. I really need to stop adding full paragraphs in edits.... I don't agree with suppression, but the only reason anyone here is up in arms is because they really want said research to prove their point. They will plug their ears about everything that disagrees with the view they want, but now cry about suppression and ignoring truth. If this research happens and does not conclude most trans people regret their decision and are just insane, then the "truth squad" will suddenly get very quiet. That is my bone to pick. My choice of words may not have been the best in your opinion, but the type of people whining about suppression of the truth are only interested in facta that supports their viewpoint, so not necessarily facts at all. Suppression is wrong and only reinforces their ignorance, but so does anything that counters the truth they want. This is why we still see "SJWs are cutting off baby dicks and most trans people are just unhappy crazy people who regret their decision and will be even more likely to kill themselves if we reinforce their delusion!" Apparently we're to do absolutely nothing for trans people until research comes to the final conclusion that that was the right decision all along. In other words, we wouldm't need research at all and could have just told everyone they were right and continued treating trans people as we did in the past. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:887348895] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>No bias there. - She has to go though rigorous gates in order to get hormones for her kid. - Doctors will not start hormone blockers until 11-12 years of age. The actual hormone therapy stars at age 16, and eligibility for surgery stars at 18. - Stating it as "I want a vagina" is the most blunt form on propaganda to your argument you could use. Kids that age might say they want to be a girl, but really? "vagina"? Tell me that isn't reaching. You guys are sad.</quote> Imagine that. This post was ignored for the millionth time in the millionth trans topic. Can't let pesky facts get in the way of screaming about liberal parents getting a doctor to chop off their 5 year old son's penis (this slippery slope will happen any day now!), or how more and more trans people are just inherently mentally unstable due to their condition and will be even more crazy if they transition. Where would be be without crying about SJW fee fees with little more than factless emotional appeals?</quote> You came into a topic about suppressing research into the field and thought the best way to get your point across was to attack the facts we have on the subject. Did that seem like a smart course of action in your head?</quote> Attack the facts? I am highlighting a post of facts that responded to a bullshit emotional appeal that pops up in every trans topic. A response that is always ignored. I wasn't responding to the OP, but a later exchange.</quote> I get that and I agree with portions of what you said but you still decided on some poor wording considering what the topic is actually about. With context it was a poor choice. Without context it makes you look really stupid TBH.</quote> I really need to stop adding full paragraphs in edits.... I don't agree with suppression, but the only reason anyone here is up in arms is because they really want said research to prove their point. They will plug their ears about everything that disagrees with the view they want, but now cry about suppression and ignoring truth. If this research happens and does not conclude most trans people regret their decision and are just insane, then the "truth squad" will suddenly get very quiet. That is my bone to pick. My choice of words may not have been the best in your opinion, but the type of people whining about suppression of the truth are only interested in facta that supports their viewpoint, so not necessarily facts at all. Suppression is wrong and only reinforces their ignorance, but so does anything that counters the truth they want. This is why we still see "SJWs are cutting off baby dicks and most trans people are just unhappy crazy people who regret their decision and will be even more likely to kill themselves if we reinforce their delusion!" Apparently we're to do absolutely nothing for trans people until research comes to the final conclusion that that was the right decision all along. In other words, we wouldm't need research at all and could have just told everyone they were right and continued treating trans people as we did in the past.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaFan462 09/26/17 7:27:56 PM #93:	hockeybub89 posted... NurseRedHeart posted... Sir Will posted... NurseRedHeart posted... You expect society to be ok with your choices. Yes they expect basic human respect and to use their proper pronouns. And not to discriminate against them. Not asking a lot. After that, well, they'll still call out bigotry and denounce hatred, but ultimately being left alone will suffice. What's your opinion on smokers? Drug users? Convicted rapists? It is pretty disingenuous to compare trans people and drug users to rapists. The point is that the choices you make are important for how others will perceive and ultimately treat you. --- Posted using GameFlux https://i.imgur.com/Il34cSX.jpg / https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:887349006] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NurseRedHeart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NurseRedHeart posted...</cite> <quote>You expect society to be ok with your choices.</quote> Yes they expect basic human respect and to use their proper pronouns. And not to discriminate against them. Not asking a lot. After that, well, they'll still call out bigotry and denounce hatred, but ultimately being left alone will suffice.</quote> What's your opinion on smokers? Drug users? Convicted rapists?</quote> It is pretty disingenuous to compare trans people and drug users to rapists.</quote> The point is that the choices you make are important for how others will perceive and ultimately treat you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 09/26/17 7:33:56 PM #94:	To be clear here, from what i can read, this student was a master's student at an extremely new university who got his research proposal denied by the IRB (every single researcher has gotten a proposal denied by the IRB, often for inane reasons, I recently got one denied because they wanted me to pregnancy test every female participant even though MRIs pose no risk to fetal development). This "ban" on transgender regret research doesn't exist. Student is manufacturing outrage. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:887349371] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote>To be clear here, from what i can read, this student was a master's student at an extremely new university who got his research proposal denied by the IRB (every single researcher has gotten a proposal denied by the IRB, often for inane reasons, I recently got one denied because they wanted me to pregnancy test every female participant even though MRIs pose no risk to fetal development). This "ban" on transgender regret research doesn't exist. Student is manufacturing outrage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Virus731 09/26/17 7:45:38 PM #95:	tell every kid that they're special and watch the boring people seek identity any way they can --- I hope this **in' world **in' burns away And I'd kill you all if I had my way <cite>Virus731 posted [p:887350071] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote>tell every kid that they're special and watch the boring people seek identity any way they can</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mist_Turnips 09/26/17 7:47:39 PM #96:	You don't need research to know: they will. --- "They say if you don't hide your belly button, lightning could take it away from you! What would happen if it did?" http://i.imgur.com/G74y2NJ.png <cite>Mist_Turnips posted [p:887350185] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote>You don't need research to know: they will.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Virus731 09/26/17 7:51:25 PM #97:	"why don't people support me through insane surgery that has only come around recently, I just can't accept myself!" --- I hope this **in' world **in' burns away And I'd kill you all if I had my way <cite>Virus731 posted [p:887350421] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote>"why don't people support me through insane surgery that has only come around recently, I just can't accept myself!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 09/26/17 7:53:05 PM #98:	Sayoria posted... I am the kind of person who would rather enlighten through my own experiences than anything else. If you are genuinely curious about anything, I'll answer if you ARE genuinely curious. By this, I mean I am typically an open book to those I believe what to actually get answers and are afraid of others snapping or feeling offended about it. That's why I pointed it out because I know my line of questioning could easily be perceived as someone just playing devils advocate on the matter. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:887350523] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>I am the kind of person who would rather enlighten through my own experiences than anything else. If you are genuinely curious about anything, I'll answer if you ARE genuinely curious. By this, I mean I am typically an open book to those I believe what to actually get answers and are afraid of others snapping or feeling offended about it.</quote> That's why I pointed it out because I know my line of questioning could easily be perceived as someone just playing devils advocate on the matter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 09/26/17 7:54:48 PM #99:	Sayoria posted... NurseRedHeart posted... Sayoria posted... OpheliaAdenade posted... That does concern me too. There do seem to be more and more people regretting their choices after the fact. For female to male that can be reversed, but after the snip snip that penis is gone forever. Biological women never had penises. I don't see them killing themselves. Just because I do and at the time, will-have-had, that doesn't mean anything. Suicide and depression mostly comes from the fact that society takes a shit on us. You expect society to be ok with your choices. How about this? Society can just ignore my choices. There, everyone is happy. I am forcing nothing on you, and you are leaving me alone. You say this, and yet whenever we flip on the news we hear about transgirls wanting to play on girl's sports teams and attend girl's schools, bills being considered penalized people for "misgendering", teachers and school officials propagandizing the youth, etc LGBT activists are trying to force their views all the time. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. \| I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus <cite>Callixtus posted [p:887350629] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NurseRedHeart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote>That does concern me too. There do seem to be more and more people regretting their choices after the fact. For female to male that can be reversed, but after the snip snip that penis is gone forever.</quote> Biological women never had penises. I don't see them killing themselves. Just because I do and at the time, will-have-had, that doesn't mean anything. Suicide and depression mostly comes from the fact that society takes a shit on us.</quote> You expect society to be ok with your choices.</quote> How about this? Society can just ignore my choices. There, everyone is happy. I am forcing nothing on you, and you are leaving me alone.</quote> You say this, and yet whenever we flip on the news we hear about transgirls wanting to play on girl's sports teams and attend girl's schools, bills being considered penalized people for "misgendering", teachers and school officials propagandizing the youth, etc LGBT activists are trying to force their views all the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DreadedWave 09/26/17 8:01:44 PM #100:	Callixtus posted... LGBT activists are trying to force their views all the time. Oh no, acceptance! Please don't force that on me! --- https://i.imgur.com/ojmm9Ja.jpg <cite>DreadedWave posted [p:887351010] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>LGBT activists are trying to force their views all the time.</quote> Oh no, acceptance! Please don't force that on me!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Virus731 09/26/17 8:03:08 PM #101:	DreadedWave posted... Oh no, acceptance! Please don't force that on me! why can't they accept themselves without ridiculous and unnecessary surgery? if you were born a man in a woman's body, I guess you should accept yourself oh I identify as a dolphin so I guess I'm a dolphin oh no wait I'm a person, guess I'll just deal with it inb4youdon'tknowhowharditistobeme --- I hope this **in' world **in' burns away And I'd kill you all if I had my way <cite>Virus731 posted [p:887351079] in Unicersity... [t:75816369]...</cite> <quote><cite>DreadedWave posted...</cite> <quote>Oh no, acceptance! Please don't force that on me! </quote> why can't they accept themselves without ridiculous and unnecessary surgery? if you were born a man in a woman's body, I guess you should accept yourself oh I identify as a dolphin so I guess I'm a dolphin oh no wait I'm a person, guess I'll just deal with it inb4youdon'tknowhowharditistobeme</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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