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Alucard188 09/28/17 12:57:57 PM #1: |
TL;DR I posted a comment on a video for Shadow of War, and how I wasn't going to buy the game, because fuck WB. This guy is all like "Think of the poor developer, you selfish bastard."
Me: Game looks pretty good, but I really can't get over the lootbox mechanic they've implemented in the game. Plus, Warner Bros is one of the worst publishers out there, so I'll not be giving them my money for this game. Him: But it's ok for games like Destiny or Breath of the Wild to have microtransactions in them? 2 games that have been praised for being just plain EXCELLENT games. Plus, what the hell has WB ever done to be spoken of in the same light as someone like EA? I have played many of their games and this is the only single-player one I have ever seen them release with micro's, plus they have made some pretty damn good games like Mad Max, the Injustice series, the Batman Arkham series, the Outlast series, Mortal Kombat, F.E.A.R and such, not exactly 'bad' games that got any bad press. Me:
Him: Your free to spend your money on whatever floats your boat dude, or alternativly, to not spend your money. But to basically say "this game is made by WB therefore I won't buy it" isn't exactly fair thinking mate. Plus it won't make a blind bit of difference, the only thing that will is if people buy the game but not any of the micro's, that way WB will see that they make money on game-sales but none on the micro's, so they will stop spending money on implementing something that doesn't make them money, boycotting the game only does 1 thing, and that is hurt the devs, not the publishers, the publishers will get their money 1 way or another, it is the dev's whose jobs hinge on wether this game is successful or not, not the publishers, so paying for the standard version of the game and restraining yourself from buying micro's, like I will, is the best way to repay the devs for their work and send a message to WB. But, you do you. Me: See, it's not my job to support the developers. My job is to pay for what I want to buy. It's their job to entice me to spend money. If a developer has a quality product, I'll buy it. If I don't agree with something, I won't buy it on their terms. WB has done enough stupid shit to force me to not buy their games. Maybe if they wanted my money, they wouldn't do this stupid shit. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 09/28/17 12:58:09 PM #2: |
Him:
It's not your job? No, it's not, it's your DUTY, as a decent gamer, to support a decent developer such as Monolith Studio's, a developer that, up to this date, has never made a bad game. I'm not telling you to spend your money on this if you don't want to, that is up to you. But don't take this stupid stance of "WB is publishing this game therefore I won't buy it", that is just pure nonsense, you should buy a game based on it's own merits, how it looks, how it plays, how it is recieved as a game, not based on who the publisher is, Maybe you don't agree with the marketing of this game or the whole micro's thing, ok, then buy the standard edition rather than all the other ones and just don't spend anything on the micro's, that's all you have to do to support the developer and send a message to the publisher. Monolith shouldn't have to suffer just cos you got beef with WB, that's not the right way to go about things mate. But like I said, it's your money and you don't have to buy the game, just don't take this silly stance and start judging what games you buy on their own merits rather than who is publishing them. Me: My "duty" as a gamer centers squarely around myself, and what I want out of gaming. I buy what I want, when I want it, based on actions and machinations around myself and the gaming industry. If I don't like a company, I don't deal with that company. I don't like Warner Bros., who just so happens to be publishing the game. Therefore, I'm not buying it. Sucks for the developer, but again, it's not my job to care about the developer. It's their job to entice me to spend money on their product. That's the publisher's job as well. Too bad the publisher's greed so readily fucked up how I perceive the game to be. Him: Why do you seem to have a problem with the fact that Monolith have created an optional multiplayer mode for SOW? I mean, your not getting the game so you won't be playing it, and even if you did get the game you don't have to partake in that mode either. Just cos you don't like that type of mode doesn't mean that everyone thinks the same way, it's there for people who want to play it, and those people shouldn't be denied that chance just cos you don't like that type of mode. Neither should Monolith/WB be slamed for creating a new mode that gives people extra reason to play the game. I'm getting a sense that you are a very selfish gamer, dude. Me: You seem to have misinterpreted my argument. I'm not arguing against extra modes to play a game - not in the slightest. What I am arguing against is creating an online economy and market place for a competitive, online PvP experience, that features real pay-to-win mechanics. That's my problem, not that this competitive, online PvP experience exists. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 09/28/17 12:58:58 PM #3: |
What micro transactions are in BOTW?
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Alucard188 09/28/17 1:02:28 PM #4: |
Turbam posted...
What micro transactions are in BOTW? ¯\_()_/¯ --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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snesmaster40 09/28/17 1:05:31 PM #5: |
Posting on Youtube comments is like walking into a minefield.
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Alucard188 09/28/17 1:06:43 PM #6: |
Actually, this guy is rather mild mannered and equivocal in his arugments. He hasn't called me a racial slur, a homophobic slur, or denigrated my ancestry once.
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Turbam 09/28/17 1:08:25 PM #7: |
Reading the rest of his argument, this dude is a dumbass.
It's your "duty" to buy games from competent developers? Fuck that. --- ~snip (V)_(; ;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! http://i.imgur.com/p9Xvjvs.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PiOverlord 09/28/17 1:08:34 PM #8: |
Alucard188 posted...
Turbam posted...What micro transactions are in BOTW? That is what I was thinking myself. Unless he is counting amiibo. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 26, 500th posts: 16; PiO ATTN: 2 Thank the lord, the PiOverlord! RotM wins 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 09/28/17 1:09:46 PM #9: |
snesmaster40 posted...
Posting on Youtube comments is like walking into a minefield. Where everywhere is a mine. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 09/28/17 1:10:32 PM #10: |
I can't think of a bigger waste of time than arguing in the Youtube comment section
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Melonfarms 09/28/17 1:11:09 PM #11: |
PiOverlord posted...
Alucard188 posted...Turbam posted...What micro transactions are in BOTW? Or the DLC that people complained about. That is the only other thing I remember people complaining about. --- PSN: obsurdrandom FEH: 6893310631 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gafemaqs 09/28/17 1:11:51 PM #12: |
Lol he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. He got rekt
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Eevee-Trainer 09/28/17 1:17:51 PM #13: |
Turbam posted...
Reading the rest of his argument, this dude is a dumbass. Imagine not being dutiful enough to buy every game from every developer as a gamer. *tips fedora and walks out* --- Maybe I'll put something here one day. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GhostOfTrayvon 09/28/17 1:20:08 PM #14: |
Why would you get into a pissing match on Youtube?
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Alucard188 09/28/17 1:20:41 PM #15: |
GhostOfTrayvon posted...
Why would you get into a pissing match on Youtube? Bored, and he keeps replying to me. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 09/28/17 1:24:44 PM #16: |
It's not your job? No, it's not, it's your DUTY, as a decent gamer, to support a decent developer such as Monolith Studio's
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spartan99ruler 09/28/17 1:27:53 PM #17: |
Alucard188 posted...
Actually, this guy is rather mild mannered and equivocal in his arugments. He hasn't called me a racial slur, a homophobic slur, or denigrated my ancestry once. He hasn't done that yet. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muffinz0rz 09/28/17 1:36:57 PM #18: |
This guy is trolling the living shit out of you, you realize that, right?
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Prestoff 09/28/17 1:42:46 PM #19: |
Debating on the internet is essentially fighting for whoever gets the last word in. That couldn't be more evident on youtube comment section.
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Alucard188 09/28/17 1:46:50 PM #21: |
JustMyOpinion posted...
Interesting that you phrase it as him arguing hard against you when you're arguing just as hard. Well, yeah. I wasn't disputing that anywhere. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GhostOfTrayvon 09/28/17 1:47:38 PM #22: |
Muffinz0rz posted...
This guy is trolling the living shit out of you, you realize that, right? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SGT_Conti 09/28/17 1:48:08 PM #23: |
Alucard188 posted...
No, it's not, it's your DUTY lol what --- "I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muffinz0rz 09/28/17 1:59:21 PM #24: |
Alucard188 posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...Interesting that you phrase it as him arguing hard against you when you're arguing just as hard. It's extremely implied in the wording of the topic title that you're ripping the guy for "trying" to argue against you. You're playing it off like "oh I'm just humoring the guy, I'm just messing around but look at this poor soul taking this argument so seriously." The way this topic and the conversation has turned out, it sounds a lot like you're the one taking the argument seriously, while he's clearly just dicking you around. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (1-2): https://i.imgur.com/6HFuomJ.png (Updated Weekly) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 09/28/17 2:04:13 PM #25: |
I don't believe he's dicking me around (I've seen some pretty stupid arguments along the same lines as this user), but I'm also not disputing that I'm taking it seriously. I've been pretty serious in my commenting. You're welcome to take issue with how I worded the topic title, though.
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Muffinz0rz 09/28/17 2:09:02 PM #26: |
Alucard188 posted...
I don't believe he's dicking me around (I've seen some pretty stupid arguments along the same lines as this user), but I'm also not disputing that I'm taking it seriously. I've been pretty serious in my commenting. You're welcome to take issue with how I worded the topic title, though. I'm not taking issue with it. I'm just saying you're clearly implying that he is a tryhard. It's a perfectly valid topic title, but not when you go on and show that you're also trying just as hard. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (1-2): https://i.imgur.com/6HFuomJ.png (Updated Weekly) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 09/28/17 2:10:28 PM #27: |
Just assume Poe's law. He's probably having a hard days work and once something to relief his stress by dicking around with you.
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nbda3A4eWFR2 09/28/17 2:11:06 PM #28: |
TIL: gamefaqs mods argue on YT
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Alucard188 09/28/17 2:11:31 PM #29: |
Muffinz0rz posted...
Alucard188 posted...I don't believe he's dicking me around (I've seen some pretty stupid arguments along the same lines as this user), but I'm also not disputing that I'm taking it seriously. I've been pretty serious in my commenting. You're welcome to take issue with how I worded the topic title, though. *shrugs* We're both tryharding, then. He's responded to me multiple times in the same thread, which prompts me to respond to him. It will likely keep happening until one of us stops. That's what I meant by "arguing so hard against me". If he didn't respond to me, then I wouldn't feel the need to respond to him. nbda3A4eWFR2 posted... TIL: gamefaqs mods argue on YT Oh look - another non-sequitur jab at GameFAQs mods through some unrelated facet of their every-day life. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thugstar 09/28/17 2:20:12 PM #30: |
Your mistake was to argue in youtube comments.
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nbda3A4eWFR2 09/28/17 2:21:21 PM #31: |
Alucard188 posted...
Oh look - a gamefaqs mod thinking I'm taking a shot. No, too hard to ask what it means if you're confused? Now, you may bitch about me taking a "jab" at your group. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 09/28/17 2:23:39 PM #32: |
Then what, pray tell, were you attempting to do with your comment, if not provoking me? Nice backpedal, though.
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nbda3A4eWFR2 09/28/17 2:24:32 PM #33: |
Oh, see, now when you want to apologize for being wrong then you can fucking ask me like a fuckin' civil person without the half-assed sarcasm.
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Muffinz0rz 09/28/17 2:25:58 PM #34: |
Alucard188 posted...
*shrugs* I'm glad you got my point. But at the end of the day, the general consensus is that the winner of an online argument is the one who walks away first. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (1-2): https://i.imgur.com/6HFuomJ.png (Updated Weekly) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 09/28/17 2:27:07 PM #35: |
nbda3A4eWFR2 posted...
Oh, see, now when you want to apologize for being wrong then you can fucking ask me like a fuckin' civil person without the half-assed sarcasm. Nope. Keep pretending that you're winning, like someone's keeping score at home, though. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alexanaxela 09/28/17 2:27:08 PM #36: |
you should be the bigger man and go on an ad-hominem tirade
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nbda3A4eWFR2 09/28/17 2:28:13 PM #37: |
Alucard188 posted...
Okay, wander in your mind. Thanks for proving that you as a person are incapable of acting like a decent human being who can admit they're wrong. DISCLAIMER: THIS IS NOT A COMMENT ON THE MODERATION STAFF OF THIS OR ANY OTHER WEBSITE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 09/28/17 2:28:15 PM #38: |
Alexanaxela posted...
you should be the bigger man and go on an ad-hominem tirade "Excuse me sir, but I've had several scandalous relations with your mother!" *pulls on suspenders* --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nbda3A4eWFR2 09/28/17 2:30:38 PM #39: |
Terrible idea to assume gender and insult mothers.
But the better way would be to understand you're simply better than this person and smile. Arguing with trolls, via this site or YT or whatever isn't a good thing. It's why most, if not all trolls on here, can't try it with me for more than 3-4 posts. They tried it then gave up several times. Why? Because dropping reality on trolls stops them in their tracks. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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0AbsoluteZero0 09/28/17 2:31:30 PM #40: |
nbda3A4eWFR2 posted...
Oh, see, now when you want to apologize for being wrong then you can fucking ask me like a fuckin' civil person without the half-assed sarcasm. Dude, you were trolling there. It's painfully obvious, and you're not fooling anyone --- -The Admirable ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nbda3A4eWFR2 09/28/17 2:32:02 PM #41: |
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Nope. If you also would like to admit you're wrong and ask me to explain what I mean I'll be more than happy to. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArchiePeck 09/28/17 2:32:38 PM #42: |
Eh, if you had to go and make a topic about the argument on a message board, then you lost LOL
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Darmik 09/28/17 11:07:40 PM #44: |
Buying every game from every decent developer is one hell of an expensive duty to live up to lol.
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